PPP poll: Palin’s favorability at 37/55
posted at 9:07 pm on September 24, 2009 by Allahpundit
Head-to-head with Obama, she’s steady from last month: He led her 52/38 in August and leads 53/38 now. But her favorables are in the toilet, dropping from 47/45 in July to 40/49 in August to … 37/55. The positive spin for Palin fans, I guess, is that the less the public sees of her, the worse she seems to do, which turns the conventional media wisdom on its head. Now that she’s reemerged to hit the lecture circuit, it’ll be interesting to see if she spikes up in October.
Another ominous trend: Her favorability among Republicans was higher last month than Huckabee’s even though he fared better against Obama overall (this month he trails by seven points after trailing in August by just three), but now he’s nudged past her even within the party.
He beats her among Republicans even in a hypothetical contest against Obama, winning 77 percent and losing just 13 while Palin tops out at 70 percent and loses 18. Even when you break it out by ideology, expecting the ‘Cuda to win big among conservatives, it’s a statistical wash:
Exit question: Where’s all the GOP Huck love coming from? Does he have that many fans of his Fox show? Or is he just drawing good vibes as the funny, genial southern guy, in contrast to the more polarizing personas of Palin and Romney?
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Well, there was one of those “obligatory” posts about it last night, but it’s since been buried even though it had 500+ comments. Though to be honest half of it turned into a religion debate.
ddrintn on September 25, 2009 at 12:33 AM
It reminds me of her Facebook explanation on “death panels” right before his big speech.
I laughed. She sent his speechwriters scrambling, I guarantee you.
He knows that she is his true opponent. Already. I don’t care what the polls say.
Palin is the real threat.
AnninCA on September 25, 2009 at 12:35 AM
I gave up. I check the thread topics, but I rather hate to derail the topics. That is true trolling.
AnninCA on September 25, 2009 at 12:36 AM
Did you guys read the NY TIMES article, btw?
It was really good.
AnninCA on September 25, 2009 at 12:36 AM
I love them all. I’ve got “The Vision of the Anointed” in my book queue.
Sapwolf on September 25, 2009 at 12:36 AM
Huckabee? Who’s that?
MrX on September 25, 2009 at 12:40 AM
At least Obama took out 6 months of his life to gain an understanding of all the pressing national issues that are facing our great country and then applied liberal solutions with the help of his advisors.
Why can’t Palin take a couple of months off and gain a deep understanding of the issues facing our nation with a couple of well known advisers by your side? I really hope she isn’t just after the money.
TimeTraveler on September 25, 2009 at 12:41 AM
Nice guy, but that’s about it.
AnninCA on September 25, 2009 at 12:41 AM
lol when huck and Mitt are attacked by the press everyday for 1.5 years then i want to see where their negatives are. Palin is at the bottom her negatives can’t go down much farther huck and mitt’s can and will once the state run media tears into them. the DNC/media has file cabinets on mitt and huck. everythig Palin has is out in the press. she will increase her support has the years go on.
unseen on September 25, 2009 at 12:41 AM
I’m sorry. But she has been declining all press requests for more than a couple of months.
How is what she’s doing not exactly what you advise?
AnninCA on September 25, 2009 at 12:43 AM
Why can’t Palin take a couple of months off and gain a deep understanding of the issues facing our nation with a couple of well known advisers by your side? I really hope she isn’t just after the money.
TimeTraveler on September 25, 2009 at 12:41 AM
LO. yeah because her speech in china was just so bad. nothing like believing the state run media’s line. Palin knows more about the problems we face than 98% of the population
unseen on September 25, 2009 at 12:43 AM
Oh yeah…and surely she’s not worried.
AnninCA on September 25, 2009 at 12:43 AM
I still don’t know of any really stupid or corrupt thing that Palin is guilty of to date……Just goes to show the power of the media and the stupidity of the herd mentality.
cjk on September 25, 2009 at 12:46 AM
Palin doesn’t need me or anyone to defend her. She’s obviously methodical and has figured out what to do.
She’ll rebound, for sure. I watched Bill Clinton get nailed for his “bimbo factor” early in his own primaries. I still said, “He’s the next president.” Sure enough, he overcame that.
I am not ready at all to say she’s really going to be president, but I can absolutely say, she’s national, and she’s relevant.
And blogs that pretend otherwise or buy into the media spin that she’s damaged goods just don’t get it. They will be left behind.
If liberal blogs print ANYTHING, including yet one more idiotic accusation from her stalker in Alaska? The thread dominates.
That is attention that has nothing to do with her, folks. That’s how big of a populist threat she really is.
AnninCA on September 25, 2009 at 12:47 AM
So far, she seems to be. As for upstaging, she’s done it to him before. The day of his “make or brake” joint session before congress, she drops an op-ed on his head…he calls her out during his speech…and she responds via Facebook.
I honestly think people are confused because she’s not playing the game like everyone else does.
She’s bypassing the media and getting her message directly to the people by means of social media and networking. She’s not giving interviews…which of course drives the media nuts…and they have no choice but to talk about her.
I’ve seen folks suggest that she’s going 3rd party because of some of the libertarian undertones of her message. I think that’s a misread.
It is my contention that Palin is the rare candidate who embraces certain libertarian and populist themes, but under the conservative umbrella. I think she has the unique ability to create a coalition of these forces…including the Tea Partiers…because she wouldn’t be co-opting their message. She shares it genuinely.
She can go after the GOP in a principled stance and take on the same ol’ Rockefeller Republicans that Reagan did. Remember…Reagan is an inspiration for her. This cannot be disregarded.
I believe her goal is to present herself as the candidate of the people and as the defacto leader of the opposition to Obama’s statism…and I think she has the background, principles and charisma to pull it off without officially taking over the Tea Party movement. But then, she doesn’t have to and in fact, such a move would be regarded as cynical political opportunism.
So I’m willing to give her time to continue her assault on the statists from the comfort of her laptop, while she builds her team of advisers, finishes her book and makes plans for future speeches and campaign trips with candidates who have asked her to tour with them.
Believe me…the time will come for her to blitz the media and do the talk shows and such. But unlike President Narcissist, she knows it’s important to keep her powder dry and to increase her stock by limiting her availability to a hostile press.
powerpro on September 25, 2009 at 12:49 AM
Well I hope she is doing what I am advising… Even if she is just hungry for money she can stay relevant for 6 more years if she takes my advise.
TimeTraveler on September 25, 2009 at 12:49 AM
What Sarah is doing to Obama is similar to the “Lord of the Rings” when Aragorn braves the use of the Palintir to look into Sauron’s Eye to rattle him.
Aragorn tells Sauron that you’ve hunted me but I have eluded you. Here is the Sword of Elendil. Aragorn knows this pisses off Sauron, but then Sauron shows a picture of Arwen dead. It is a lie.
But the bad guys never play fair and they won’t in 2012 either.
But make no mistake about it. The Cuda is in his head and she puts them in reaction mode these days.
Sapwolf on September 25, 2009 at 12:50 AM
Im sure Palin appreciates your “concern” but why do you assume that’s not what she’s doing?
We know she’s keeping a low profile. We know she’s pulling a team of advisors together. We know she’s speaking and writing articulately on key issues of our day.
powerpro on September 25, 2009 at 12:52 AM
I agree with you. The point is one of degrees. The attack on Palin was sufficiently savage and complete as to render her damaged goods. This is obviously a subjective assessment but the problem for our side is that to test either hypothesis requires a horse race. In my view, the results won’t likely be known until the general election and by then we’re stuck.
I guess we’ll just have to wait and see. Philosophically I’d like to agree with you but I think the cold reality is that once ridiculed as a dolt (not my view) her political aspirations are limited.
Hilarious to see the Palin praetorian guard attempt to burn anyone at the stake who strays from the orthodoxy. I and others have said we like Sarah. Would consider voting for her again…but when we suggest that the media may have inflicted a mortal wound we are castigated as heretics. Even though we say it is unfair…heretic. Laughable.
Then someone tried to suggest that attending a tea party and/or town hall meeting was the litmus test… trial by tea might suffice as ample proof of nonheretical beliefs and practices…well…as a matter of fact I, the wife and kids did attend both the Tea Party Express as well a local tea party.
What next….the sprinkling of pure Alaskan glacier water to see if it burns? Ipso facto…troll?
Wait for it…wait….in 3,2,1…
R Square on September 25, 2009 at 12:52 AM
You articulate what I know intuitively. Yes.
AnninCA on September 25, 2009 at 12:53 AM
I thought I was suppose to drive you nuts. *haha*
I agree. He is also instinctual politically. He knows….she is his true competitor.
She’s actually populist. He was a fake.
AnninCA on September 25, 2009 at 12:55 AM
The attacks were just too typical. If we were a decade ago, I’d agree with you.
Not today. Not in today’s chaotic news environmnent. Everyone is skewered. Everyone ends up on a Nazi sign. Everyone is bashed to the extreme.
Therefore, nobody is really bashed.
(Except Sanford. Poor guy, he really is toast.)
AnninCA on September 25, 2009 at 12:57 AM
BEST post tonight.
You know her. You read my mind too only you put it to words.
I was one of three people at the DC Tea Party with the Sarah Palin posters. They love her. Some asked if she would show up at the rally. I said it was not likely because I felt that for her to show up would be interpreted as her trying to hijack the movement which I knew she never would do.
Sarah understands the Tea Party Movement better I think than ANY other GOP politician at the national level.
Both feel it in their hearts. She feels it as we do because ultimately she is an American through and through. Obama is not on the inside and it shows like in the speech to the UN.
Sapwolf on September 25, 2009 at 12:57 AM
R Square on September 25, 2009 at 12:52 AMI’ve seen this notion before…Palin’s damaged goods, therefore we should find another standard bearer… and I find it puzzling.
Do you all honestly think that whoever we choose will not be savaged by the hard left and the media (BIRM)? Will we abandon each of them as damaged goods because the hard left and the media (BIRM) decide for us that they are unworthy/too stupid/whatever?
Or are we going to recognize their game this time, disregard their tactics, and not let them choose who is and who is not good enough to be our candidate?
powerpro on September 25, 2009 at 1:00 AM
I get the real feeling that she is learning about getting inside Obama’s OODA loop.
coyoterex on September 25, 2009 at 1:00 AM
I’m a liberal, well, sort of a liberal. And I really, really like her.
That tells me, this woman has a truly compelling role to play.
She doesn’t represent my ideology about a host of issues, but I find myself brushing that aside and thinking, “give her elbow room.”
If she can get someone like me to listen, she has a very authentic voice.
Because I’m convinced, personally, that attraction is about authenticity more than policy.
AnninCA on September 25, 2009 at 1:01 AM
Whatever.
I really don’t think Palin is driven by polls.
That’s power. That’s influence.
balkanmom2 on September 25, 2009 at 1:01 AM
I am actually glad that she getting out there on facebook and laying out or defining where she stands on foreign policy and other issues. I really haven’t seen her do much of the social conservative stuff, I have seen her add the word god in her speeches here and there but not much of anything else. Maybe she is going back to how she campaigned in 2006? She had to state her social conservative views in a moderate tone during the elections since she knew very well that Alaska was mostly libertarian.
PS: A lot of conservative might not like her “populism”.
TimeTraveler on September 25, 2009 at 1:03 AM
No offense, but if you’re trying to be a reasonable skeptic, which is fine, that type of ridiculous hyperbole doesn’t exactly make your case.
Erich66 on September 25, 2009 at 1:03 AM
From Mark Levin today:
“As of today I have anointed Benjamin Netanyahu now the leader of the free world (for his speech at the UN); Sarah Palin, you’re coming pretty close!”
technopeasant on September 25, 2009 at 1:03 AM
Oh, she’s a politician at this stage. She pays attention. But she’s also listening to some savvy voices right now.
It doesn’t matter.
America LOVES a comeback “kid.” We are true suckers for that storyline.
She’s doing the spadework to make sure that people can jump back on her bandwagon at just the right moment.
That was Clinton’s forte, too. It’s no mistake that he said, “She’s gifted.”
He recognized his mirror image.
Now, if she’s half as bright as him, she’ll be a winner.
She does have to be bright. Truly bright.
If she’s just another Obama, then…….I’ll lose interest. We do not need another teleprompter type.
AnninCA on September 25, 2009 at 1:06 AM
Exit Question: If Palin had no kids would she be more effective as a politician?
TimeTraveler on September 25, 2009 at 1:11 AM
I’m amazed how few in the damn GOP don’t appear to get this.
Sarah was into sports and governing. She gets it. I just hope the rest of get it and come together.
Sapwolf on September 25, 2009 at 1:12 AM
Why is it that Conservatives and Republicans are described as “polarizing” when they do nothing to polarize? Democrats actively polarize us; when Democrats attack Conservatives/GOPers the media tells us that the false Democrat criticism means the person is polarizing. THe true polarizers are the media and the Democrats. Sarah Palin does not seek to divide us by race or class. The Democrats do that. Yet, Palin is polarizing.
SilentWatcher on September 25, 2009 at 1:13 AM
Palin was presented by the hard left and the media (BIRM) as a religious demagogue, who would write laws to demand all citizens be chained to their Lay-Z-Boys and forced to watch endless hours of Billy Graham. Or something close to it.
But the thing is, regardless of her personal beliefs, she has governed in moderation. She follows the law, not her own dogma.
But that truth didn’t fit the narrative of the hard left and the media (BIRM). They needed to paint her to be an extremist and Obama as a moderate.
Oh what a crazy world we live in.
powerpro on September 25, 2009 at 1:14 AM
Great observation. The Terminator, the man that could get any woman in the country naked in 5 minutes knows a great retail politician when he sees one. He didn’t mean her looks and looks alone.
You can bet BillyJeff has tried to clue the DNC and gang into the fact that Sarah is dangerous to their side.
Sapwolf on September 25, 2009 at 1:16 AM
Well, that’s her challenge. She must build up questions now. That’s all.
Her latest editorials have been very solid, very much representative of a populist viewpoint, but well fleshed out. Next, this appearance. That puts question marks in the nonsense stories about how she “doesn’t show up.” Her story, that people are advertising that she’s going to be there, are at fault. They aren’t getting contracts.
She has to chip away at the lies. What’s fascinating?
She’s obviously just the type to be determined to do it. That’s a new twist. Most of them run for the hills.
I think people are watching. We’d like a leader who cares enough to chip away, stand in front of obstacles.
I don’t think Obama matches that. It was a pretty easy ride for him. Glib guy……little experience.
She will have even more of a compelling story if she stands firm.
AnninCA on September 25, 2009 at 1:18 AM
Absolutely not. Everyone I know in RL has kids, with real problems and real challenges.
That’s the idiocy talk of insider DC people, who are frankly sterile.
AnninCA on September 25, 2009 at 1:20 AM
SilentWatcher on September 25, 2009 at 1:13 AM
It’s calling setting the cat among the pigeons. And the Democrats are experts at that.
technopeasant on September 25, 2009 at 1:22 AM
No because
1)Americans like their politicians to have children;
2)Conventional wisdom says kids are the proof in the pudding-if a politician can’t take care of a family, how can he/she take care of the country?;and
3)Her youngest son, Trig, has become the darling of the pro-life movement.
If I could give any advice to Caribou Barbie, it would be to get the media attention away from Bristol and focus the attention on her son,Track, who’s serving in the military.
Norman Blizter on September 25, 2009 at 1:24 AM
The Times already made up for it by printing a snarky op-ed by some bitter old bitch who looks like Peppermint Patty.
alliebobbitt on September 25, 2009 at 1:25 AM
Plus, let’s not forget. Obama did break new ground. People are now antsy to give women their due, too.
That’s how momentum goes. Pawlenty and Romney are the wrong sex and the wrong color at the wrong time in history. They will have to settle for less.
AnninCA on September 25, 2009 at 1:26 AM
No way. One of the key attractive features of Palin is the fact that she seems like a normal person/family and has not become seperated from the realities that face most Americans. She gets it and in no small part because she is a mother.
R Square on September 25, 2009 at 1:28 AM
It comes from within. Bill had it. Obama doesn’t. Sarah has it.
It is a true ease with that responsibility and gift.
Even this week, Obama goes on Letterman. He’s cute, glib, everyone is happy. Bill followed up the next night, and we all absolutely relax.
That’s just a true gift.
You may disagree with his policies and choices. I disagree with Sarah’s policies in a lot of respects.
But she’s got that gift. I relax. I think a lot of people do.
AnninCA on September 25, 2009 at 1:30 AM
If this is true, we really are a stupid country. WTF does having sex and taking care of children have to do with understanding and obeying the Constitution? And a lot of people, not just lefties, think Palin has failed as a mother because of Bristol’s less than chaste lifestyle.
Speedwagon82 on September 25, 2009 at 1:31 AM
IF PALIN HAD NO KIDS WOULD SHE BE MORE EFFECTIVE AS A POLITICIAN?
It is what it is. But I did say one thing several months ago that Levi Johnston would prove to be Sarah’s Achilles’ heel in terms of diminishing of Sarah’s credibility and smearing her. I wish this was not true but Obama will bring him off the bench anytime Sarah gets on a roll. I hope he only proves to be a fleabite.
technopeasant on September 25, 2009 at 1:33 AM
I think that every woman I know sympathizes with her over the attention to Bristol. We have raised real kids. We exist because we have created small pools of support. Our kids got pregnant, got girls pregnant, escaped that one but got caught up in drugs, escaped that one but got caught up in something else.
In short, we have real families with real issues. We may not jump to defend, but I trust that we all do sympathize.
Sarah herself has done nothing wrong. Her daughter made the mistake.
It’s nothing like Sanford and his nonsense.
AnninCA on September 25, 2009 at 1:33 AM
Nobody I know pays a bit of attention to Levi. He’s a teenager.
We do notice the press is particularly stupid on this.
AnninCA on September 25, 2009 at 1:35 AM
Can’t spell and delusions of grandeur.
Methinks me smells a liberal.
John the Libertarian on September 25, 2009 at 1:35 AM
She needs advice from you like she needs a hole in the head.
John the Libertarian on September 25, 2009 at 1:37 AM
I think the logic behind that belief (which is not mine BTW) is that if a person can’t lead a small group of people, how can that person lead a country.
Norman Blizter on September 25, 2009 at 1:37 AM
Then she definitely needs a hole in the head.
Norman Blizter on September 25, 2009 at 1:38 AM
“Caribou Barbie” knew better than to make her son a terrorist target while he was in Iraq and since he just got home last week, there’s nothing much to say.
Laura on September 25, 2009 at 1:43 AM
6 months earning a paycheck as a US Senator from the taxpayer?
what issues does he understand? he takes the issues and applies whatever he learned from his marxist profs to it …
joey24007 on September 25, 2009 at 2:01 AM
Yawn.
John the Libertarian on September 25, 2009 at 2:03 AM
I think the real issue is whether her solutions ring true with people.
So far, she’s reiterted McCain policy.
I think that doesn’t quite hit the spot with a lot of people. She has them, from her own political stand, but she needs to develop her own philosophy and solutions.
Frankly, Reagan is dead. That isn’t going to be enough.
AnninCA on September 25, 2009 at 2:03 AM
Ahem…Don’t forget Mommy’s apparent less than chaste lifestyle. Where do you think Bristol gets it from?
From an article by THE HILL on the book, Trailblazer:
“Lorenzo Benet, an assistant editor at People magazine, tries to capitalize on Palin’s star power in his latest book, Trailblazer: An Intimate Biography of Sarah Palin.
But even with all of his focus on Palin’s values, Benet practically glosses over what was apparently a shotgun wedding. The Palins eloped on Aug. 29, 1988, to the surprise of their parents and friends. Their firstborn, Track, was delivered almost exactly eight months later, on April 20, 1989.
When contacted by The Hill, Bill McAllister, a spokesman for Palin, said only: “I think it’s part of the public record that the governor and her husband eloped.” He declined to comment on the timing of Track’s birth.”
http://thehill.com/bookshelf/20791-tracing-palins-trailblazing-path
Shelby on September 25, 2009 at 2:07 AM
And who cares about this?
LOL*
You have got to be kidding me.
AnninCA on September 25, 2009 at 2:10 AM
That picture of Sarah Palin and our flag – it gives me a feeling of reassurance for America. She has that certain strength of character and leadership. She scares the snot out of the liberals. I like that.
redwhiteblue on September 25, 2009 at 2:17 AM
Then she definitely needs a hole in the head.
Norman Blizter on September 25, 2009 at 1:38 AM
Are you suggesting the same one your sporting sport?
heshtesh on September 25, 2009 at 2:18 AM
For all the trolls I’ve known…
G’nite anklebiters.
(And lovely ankles they are.)
profitsbeard on September 25, 2009 at 2:18 AM
Voters will care. We are sick of the “family values” hypocrites. Stanford, Ensign, the latest C street guys, sarah palin, the list goes on and on…
BTW, I voted for neither obama or McOld/palin…so skip the “you voted for obama” stuff with me, k. This is the palin family of wild gals were talkin’ about.
Shelby on September 25, 2009 at 2:21 AM
BTW, I voted for neither obama or McOld/palin…so skip the “you voted for obama” stuff with me, k. This is the palin family of wild gals were talkin’ about.
Shelby on September 25, 2009 at 2:21 AM
AnninCA on September 25, 2009 at 2:29 AM
You do sound a bit delusional regarding your messiah sarah. If sarah tries to run the left will have a grand time with this. I wonder if sarah’s seen any witches lately…
http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-09-05/inside-sarahs-church/full/
Inside Sarah Palin’s Radical Church
by Max Blumenthal
September 5, 2009
“In an excerpt from his new book “Republican Gomorrah”, Max Blumenthal examines the radical beliefs about witchcraft and the “serpent seed” that propelled Sarah Palin into politics.
“Oh father, use her to turn this nation around,” Bishop Muthee shouted, his left palm on Sarah Palin’s head, “so that the curse can be broken.”
To those who knew Palin, she was no ordinary hockey mom, but rather an evangelical foot soldier who spearheaded the [conservative Christian] movement’s takeover of local government. Her power base was the Wasilla Assembly of God, a Pentecostal mega-church where she was baptized and spent over 20 years as a member.
Wasilla Assembly of God was in thrall to a radical Pentecostal trend once denounced by church authorities as heresy. Called the Third Wave, it was rooted in an explicitly anti-intellectual creation myth. According to the Third Wave’s founding father, William Branham, a rural Canadian preacher, Satan had sex with Eve and gave birth to Cain–the so-called “Serpent Seed.” “Through Cain came all the smart, educated people down to the antediluvian flood–the intellectuals, bible colleges,” Branham wrote. “They know all their creeds but know nothing about God.”
Despite opposition from inside the Assembly of God’s hierarchy, Third Wave congregations won droves of adherents by emphasizing charismatic displays of ecstatic release, including practices such as holy laughter (hysterical giggling that supposedly represents the spirit of God flowing through the bodies of believers) and drunkenness in the spirit, where worshippers emulate the experience of intoxication so melodramatically that Charles Bukowski would reel in embarrassment.
In 2000, while serving as mayor, Palin asked her pastor at Wasilla Assembly of God for a copy of a video circulating among members called “Transformation,” produced by George Otis, an evangelical author who once raised money for former Black Panther Eldridge Cleaver after the latter’s conversion to fundamentalist Christianity. (Cleaver went on to found the syncretic pseudo-religion of “Christlam” and to design men’s jeans with special codpieces–“Cleaver sleeves,” he called them–that prominently displayed the wearer’s genitals.) In the video, Otis documented the heroism of Pentecostal pastor Bishop Thomas Muthee, who supposedly saved the city of Kiambu, Kenya, from an evil witch named Mama Jane, who reportedly used her otherworldly powers to manipulate top government officials and ordered one death per month by car crash in front of her “divination house.”
According to the film, Muthee organized several weeks of imprecatory prayer against Mama Jane. He led his followers in “spiritual mapping,” a technique popularized at Rev. Ted Haggard’s World Prayer Center that consists of praying around buildings and city blocks occupied by demonic spirits. While cries for Mama Jane’s stoning intensified, the local police arrested the evil witch and ordered her never to return to Kiambu.
When a reporter from Women’s eNews traveled to Kiambu to investigate the story, she discovered that Muthee was a fraud. The reporter found Mama Jane still living in the compound from which Muthee claimed to have had her ousted. A 46-year-old woman whose real name was Jane Njenga, Mama Jane is revered by locals for adopting 40 abandoned children…
While Palin barnstormed the country as a vice-presidential candidate in late September, Muthee returned to the Mat-Su Valley to address a group from the Wasilla Assembly of God. The Kenyan preacher explained the current relevance of Queen Esther, a Jewish beauty queen who married the king of Assyria and then used her seductive wiles to persuade him to save her people from the evil Haman. The resonance was clear: Palin, the former beauty pageant contestant who had chosen Esther as her biblical role model when she first entered politics, would topple the secular tyrants to lead her people, the true Christians, into the kingdom.
Building toward his climax, Muthee summoned the flock to spiritual warfare, invoking Branham’s “serpent seed” doctrine. “How do you kill a python?” Muthee asked an adolescent boy in the front row. “Step on its neck!” the boy responded almost instantly. “Right,” Muthee replied. “You have to step on the necks of the pythons to crush the enemy.” Then Muthee drew the worshippers to their feet for a prayer that included speaking in tongues:
While the mainstream press generally overlooked details such as Palin’s apparent belief in witchcraft, the [Conservative Christian] movement’s adulation intensified.”
Shelby on September 25, 2009 at 2:35 AM
Sarah Palin Gets Protection From Witches
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jl4HIc-yfgM&feature=fvw
Shelby on September 25, 2009 at 2:37 AM
Pregnancies out of wedlock? No. Especially not TWO in the same immediate family…
Shelby on September 25, 2009 at 2:40 AM
At least they got married. And Levi Johnston doesn’t qualify as a teenager. He only qualifies as an A$$HOLE because he denigrated the mother and grandmother of his child. In some parts of this country members of a family might take him out to the woods, beat the living crap out of him, and tell him NEVER come back.
What is his child going to think of him for insulting the child’s mother ?
hamradio on September 25, 2009 at 2:41 AM
Shelby on September 25, 2009 at 2:37 AM
And thank GOD we have Shelby to save us from Sarah.
heshtesh on September 25, 2009 at 2:43 AM
No, Bristol is still an unwed mother. And yeah, I think Levi’s a jerk. So why did sarah allow her daughter to date a loser for 2 1/2 years? Was sarah distracted due to her lust for political power?
Shelby on September 25, 2009 at 2:48 AM
Shelby is back ladies and gentlemen… Shelby has a rare case of PDS so I would advised everyone one to ignore the troll.
She used to pull these stints last year in the Palin threads… She is just looking for attention so don’t give her the attention she craves.
TimeTraveler on September 25, 2009 at 2:51 AM
Shelby on September 25, 2009 at 2:48 AM
I was tempted but your right,just sit back and watch her gasp.
heshtesh on September 25, 2009 at 2:56 AM
Shelby is sounding a hell of a lot like Poptech.
MadisonConservative on September 25, 2009 at 2:57 AM
That was meant for Time Traveler.
heshtesh on September 25, 2009 at 2:57 AM
So…in other words you’re freaked out by the information I just posted about palin and you would rather keep your head in the sand than to discuss sarah’s scary issues.
Shelby on September 25, 2009 at 2:57 AM
Lame. I’m not Poptech.
Shelby on September 25, 2009 at 2:58 AM
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TimeTraveler on September 25, 2009 at 3:02 AM
She’s almost up to 900k. What does she get when she hits 1 million?
B Man on September 25, 2009 at 3:59 AM
I should have put this in my last post, but, what does it mean when you have “followers” on FB?
Do you get an email of the lastest entry or something?
B Man on September 25, 2009 at 4:00 AM
Something you’ve managed to do several times now while pretending not to do it.
On to a different issue, Palin has no shot to win in 2012. I like her, she seems like a decent person, but she has zero chance….let me repeat….she has ZERO CHANCE of winning in 2012. I’m not hatin’ on her, that’s just reality. The orchestrated media campaign against her has guaranteed that.
The only shot she would have is if Obama got caught selling crack out of the White House, and even then it would be a close one. If you folks want to back that horse in 2012, knock yourself out….but you better plan for four more years of BHO if you do.
xblade on September 25, 2009 at 4:09 AM
Good question. It’s highly unusual for teenage daughters and their boyfriends to sneak something past the parents.
xblade on September 25, 2009 at 4:16 AM
xblade on September 25, 2009 at 4:16 AM
Be fun if Shelby was around to respond.
heshtesh on September 25, 2009 at 4:48 AM
I have to agree with commentators like Xblade. I wouldn’t Palin she has “Zero” chance come 2012, but she’ll fall short. Fair or not, she’s been attacked and caricatured by the media endlessly, and her sudden resignation didn’t do her any favors. Her hockey mom appeal cannot stand against Obama’s calculated charisma.
Huck’s a pleasant looking man with a nice smile. Nothing interesting ever happens to the guy, and we hear so little of him in the media, although he apparently has his own show on FOX. Maybe some voters feel safe with the guy. Palin can be such a polarzing figure (and Romney, to an extent).
Mad Kimchi on September 25, 2009 at 4:59 AM
What? Should I believe PPP?
This thread makes me laugh.
TheAlamos on September 25, 2009 at 5:12 AM
Sometimes I don’t know whether to hand my head in disgust or laugh like a donkey-eared idiot at the stupid things liberals think.
Do you mean to tell me that a fully qualified person can’t be president because of their sex or skin color? Did you consider what that meant before you wrote it?
Whatever.
Ten bucks says you’re still the most persistent Moby employed to try to guide thought here on Hot Air. I also honestly think you couldn’t care less about Sarah Palin. I believe you think she’s our worst candidate and that’s why you’ll shill for her. News is Ann, whoever goes against your guy obama, Conservatives will turn out in record numbers to support.
hawkdriver on September 25, 2009 at 5:14 AM
But she is the wolf hunt video link girl from the election threads last year. Shelby hated Palin.
hawkdriver on September 25, 2009 at 5:21 AM
Geesh. This is the reason why many adolescents think that their “conservative” parents are Hitlers. Teeners nowadays are free spirit. You can never control your children.
Is Palin a bad mother? Is Bristol a damaged teen? Gosh. Who are you people to make such a sweeping statement or criticism? Each family is different and unique. Mind your own families and businesses.
At least, Palin is a libertarian in this. Social studies on these subjects have concluded that libertarian parents lead to a more happier and loving family members.
This is the reason why many people hate some factions of social conservatives … they think that conservatives are “holier than thou freaks”. Sadly, MSM and Dems who are supposedly libertarians fall on the same image now with conservatives. They are all freaks when it comes to the subject of an ordinary “erring human”.
Kipling is still right. “Your Children are not your children”.
TheAlamos on September 25, 2009 at 5:22 AM
This article from a demented website is as phoney as you are, troll. Now crawl back under your rock under the cowflop
bill30097 on September 25, 2009 at 5:34 AM
This just in:
Bill30097 poll: Allahpundit at 0%
bill30097 on September 25, 2009 at 5:35 AM
Mitt – Obamacare light
Huckabee – raised dozens of taxes
bye bye phonies
bill30097 on September 25, 2009 at 5:36 AM
wow kind of early for “THE PALIN CONSPIRACY THEORY” don’tcha think?
As for the guy who wants the glacial flick of pretend holy water… how about I send you a bottle of water and you just drink it?
Deal?
upinak on September 25, 2009 at 6:16 AM
A lot of those voters will remember that they had engaged in premarital sex and not engage in the hypocrisy you claim they hate by beating up on someone else who may have done the same.
jimmy2shoes on September 25, 2009 at 6:29 AM
Huck is a likeable, reassuring guy. His poll numbers reflect that fact. But what we need is a Reagan, and that really is not supplied by Huckabee, Palin or Romney.
Phil Byler on September 25, 2009 at 6:59 AM
Huck’s Repub-luv is because of his outspoken Christian background, and he’s getting the love from the Evangelicals. Sadly, it seems the evangelicals are one-issue voters that don’t seem to give a wit about the sum of the issues.
In spite of Obama’s… amateurism, for lack of a better word, we conservatives have nothing that will compete. We need new blood, and I hope we find that blood before its too late. Petraeus? Paul Ryan? Hell, I’d even take that red-neck-sounding Governor Barbour.
Huck, Palin, Mr. Rogers (Pawlenty)… please go away.
Don’t shoot the messenger, and Don’t Tread On Me.
lionheart on September 25, 2009 at 7:22 AM
Red State State of Mind on September 25, 2009 at 7:41 AM
I don’t think that evangelicals are one issue voters, they went to a forum, Gov. Huckabee had an engaging speech. I don’t think too much should be read into these things three years out. I love Governor Barbour, he was an incredibly effective RNC chair and his handling of Katrina in his state was close to flawless. Don’t be so quick to push Gov. Palin away, she may not even want to be the nominee but she has really good political instincts and even if she is just running interference, she has played The Won with startling effect. It is worth the price of the entertainment.
Cindy Munford on September 25, 2009 at 7:41 AM
Two word reason why Palin will probably never be in the White House: LEVI JOHNSTON
The media isn’t done with him yet. His “book” will probably be out about the time that Palins’ comes out. No doubt his book will have some “bombshell” revelation that they were involved in something nasty. The Palins will have to sue him, it will go to trial sometime in 2010, that will force her to be a TABLOID headline for 2010 and 2011, crippling any potential race for the WH.
MaybeTHATis why the D.C. media hold her in contempt and can diss her is that they have been told privately there is some type of scandal on her.
I’d like to know more about the gal that the BHO campaign got rid of from the 2004 Senate Campaign because she was too close to BHO.
THAT might be worth something.
PappyD61 on September 25, 2009 at 7:57 AM
“Slick Wille II”
Katfish on September 25, 2009 at 8:10 AM
Although Palins ” favorables are in the toilet, dropping from 47/45 in July to 40/49 in August to … 37/55″ according to AP’s intrepretaion of the PPP poll, ie a drop of -9 net favorables, what is interesting to me is that Huck’s net favorables DROPPED 15 points and Romney’s 8 points over the same August – September PPP polls.
The question on this poll is … is it legit, and if so, why are all the Republican potential nominees dropping so quick? Obama’s PPP approval numbers have been about the same over the same peiod.
Seems odd to me. I don’t buy it.
csThor on September 25, 2009 at 8:19 AM
Wow. The trolls sure have been busy tonight rehashing old crap that was debunked eons ago.
And Levi Johnson delivering a bombshell? Please. His 15 minutes of coattail fame were up long before they started.
If you all want a bit of sanity, then take a look at Doctor Zero’s Greenroom post where he compares/contrasts Palin’s speech in HK with Obama’s speech at the UN:
http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2009/09/24/the-leader-of-the-free-world/
He also goes after this poll in the comment section.
powerpro on September 25, 2009 at 8:20 AM
Allahpundit would serve his conservative readers better by focusing as much “energy” on dissing Huckabee.
*Not* holding my breath.
Some addictions are harder to kick than others.
Lockstein13 on September 25, 2009 at 8:21 AM
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