Will the US join Canada in A’jad walkout?; Update: Video of Harper’s clear, uncompromising language

posted at 10:12 am on September 23, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

Our friends to the North have heard enough from Iranian “president” Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, thanks to his Holocaust-denying rants and virulent anti-Semitism.  Canada plans to protest his presence today at the United Nations, with their entire delegation walking out of the chamber when Ahmadinejad takes the podium.  The big question will be whether other nations join Canada’s protest of this hate-spewing oppressor, including the US:

Canada will boycott Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s speech at the United Nations today, saying his outbursts about the Holocaust and Israel are “shameful.”

Foreign Minister Lawrence Cannon will be at the world body to attend the opening of the UN General Assembly’s annual debate, but officials signal he and other members of the Canadian delegation will vacate when the Islamic republic’s president approaches the podium.

Walking out of the chamber is seen as a strong diplomatic show of disgust at the UN — and since the 192-member chamber is generally packed on the first day of the annual summit, Canada’s empty seats will not go unnoticed.

“President Ahmadinejad’s repeated denial of the Holocaust and his anti-Israel comments run counter to the values of the UN General Assembly, and they’re shameful,” said one Canadian official.

“He uses his public appearances to provoke the international community, and that is why Canada’s seats will be empty.”

Canada will be setting a standard today for the West.  Who will sit and listen to Ahmadinejad’s speech and afford him that kind of credibility after his hateful and lunatic rants?  One can certainly expect the usual suspects to sit in rapt attention: Venezuela, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Lebanon, Russia, China, and so on.  They have done nothing but enable the mullahs of Iran to conduct nuclear weapons programs, terrorism by proxy, and oppression.

But what about the Western democracies?  Will the UK, France, and Germany sit and listen to Ahmadinejad?  Iran is one of their trading partners, and thus far none of them have shown much inclination to take opportunities to rebuke Iran in public, except when being accused of fomenting unrest.

How about the US?  We don’t have diplomatic relations with Iran, but Barack Obama certainly wants them.  He did everything he could to avoid commenting on the rigged election in Iran that put Ahmadinejad on the dais at Turtle Bay.  Obama wants talks so badly that the White House has shown no inclination to react to Ahmadinejad’s bigotry.  When Canada walks out, it seems extremely unlikely that they will have their southern neighbors joining them — which will be a sorry day indeed for the United States.

Update: Stephen Harper does not mince words:

Impressive. Very impressive. We used to have national leaders here with this kind of clarity.


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It’s a very political one with more hope for it to play well with Canadian voters than to make Canada look tough on the international stage.
–Of course it’s “political.” That’s why he’s in politics.

That Harper might agree with those voters and personally think Ahmadinejad is a buffoonish bigot and a hump and a boob and etc. probably figures into his condemnation too.

Grunchy Cranola on September 24, 2009 at 11:58 AM

If it was mererly a poplulist “political” gesture, Obama would have done it, instead he is placating dictators. Are you calling the prez stupid or just politically inept, Dave?

clnurnberg on September 24, 2009 at 12:00 PM

Canada is no conservative bastion either — so it’s saying something.

Richard Romano on September 23, 2009 at 4:23 PM

Actually, if you take a look at a map of the 2008 election results, you will see that actually Canada is basically conservative. All of that Blue you see is Conservative territory. The only reason that the Fibs seem to run our Country is because Toronto is constantly Red, and they hold far too many seats to make the outlook much different. If the folks of Toronto would get their heads out of their a**es, w would definitely have a Con majority for both the Federal and Provincial government. (Toronto gave the Fibs exactly half of the seats in the last election (38) with the others split between the rest of the Country. Plus, keep in mind that the large swatches of orange actually hold only a few seats-not enough to make too much of a difference).

unclesmrgol on September 23, 2009 at 5:35 PM
Communist Canada seizes a crown jewel US asset and almost declares a national holiday over it!

Sorry sweets, Tim Horton was a Canadian. Don’t come between a Canuck and their Timmies :)

MrX on September 24, 2009 at 1:07 AM
An election is coming up and he’s losing support fast.

Bullsh*t. New poll released today, by the CBC no less, has the Cons gaining ground in Toronto of all places. Iggy won’t bring on an election now that he is losing, although I wish he would so we could send him back to Harvard with his tail between his legs. Time for a Conservative Majority so that we can actually get something done in this beautiful Country of ours rather than having an election every year…

pcbedamned on September 24, 2009 at 12:37 PM

Regarding Obama’s horrendous UN speech, Fred Thompson just made a great point from Irving Kristol, arguably the father of neo-conservatism, author of The New Cold War, 1975.

Kristol’s point that Fred made was that our President, Obama, has yet to learn a tantamount basic lesson. In order for the US to attain the respect from world opinion, the US must first respect itself, respecting our entire founding philosophy that serves as the basis of our nation’s history.

Obama did not mention the Taliban, al Qaeda, or Pakistan. Yet Obama brags of joining the UN human rights most hypocritical and criminal council. Obama’s “Collective Action”, where does it congregate to do something positive? And on unilateralism, Obama is stuck on stupid, as 35 countries joined together on something doth not unilateral make.

maverick muse on September 24, 2009 at 12:40 PM

Ahhh, so only your little book of fun’s prophecies are the ones everybody is supposed to listen to. How incredibly arrogant of you.

Dave Rywall on September 24, 2009 at 8:43 AM

He might be arrogant, but his point wasn’t. Either prophesies in bibles are true, or they aren’t. His point about Israel is that the Christian Bible seems accurate there. You can disagree, but he doesn’t say anything in that comment about no other prophesies being incorrect.

Also, give me an f-ing break. You get to choose your own religion, and it’s completely illogical for someone to choose one and not believe what it says. Most religions claim they are THE way to God and enlightenment. Saying you agree with your own religion is no more arrogant than saying you agree with a particular philosopher.

Funny, huh. But remember, it’s the Muslims that are the extremists.

dave742 on September 24, 2009 at 8:47 AM

Well, at least the Holocaust deniers. Most Muslims don’t welcome them in polite society like the rest of humanity.

Esthier on September 24, 2009 at 3:23 PM

Ahhh, so only your little book of fun’s prophecies are the ones everybody is supposed to listen to. How incredibly arrogant of you.

Dave Rywall on September 24, 2009 at 8:43 AM

He might be arrogant, but his point wasn’t. Either prophesies in bibles are true, or they aren’t. His point about Israel is that the Christian Bible seems accurate there. You can disagree, but he doesn’t say anything in that comment about no other prophesies being incorrect.

Also, give me an f-ing break. You get to choose your own religion, and it’s completely illogical for someone to choose one and not believe what it says. Most religions claim they are THE way to God and enlightenment. Saying you agree with your own religion is no more arrogant than saying you agree with a particular philosopher.
—–
No. My point was: he holds up the Bible as the be all end all guide to life without a shred of acknowledgement that most of the world believes in something else or nothing at all. What his book predicts matters; everyone else’s is completely wrong. Arrogant and an idiot.

Dave Rywall on September 24, 2009 at 3:49 PM

No. My point was: he holds up the Bible as the be all end all guide to life without a shred of acknowledgment that most of the world believes in something else or nothing at all. What his book predicts matters; everyone else’s is completely wrong. Arrogant and an idiot.

Dave Rywall on September 24, 2009 at 3:49 PM

I’m not sure what you think my point was with this response. By definition, those who believe in those religions with prophesies also believe the others are wrong, as the vast majority are completely contradictory (the rest just contradictory).

Esthier on September 24, 2009 at 4:06 PM

most of the world believes in something else or nothing at all

Umm, no.

33% of the world population is Christian, more than any other belief system. Islam is the next largest religion, with 20% of the population. Since Islam respects the authority of the Hebrew prophets and Scriptures, that makes 53% of the world population. (Rather a larger group than the 2.5% that are atheists.)

Regarding the name-calling… remember that “ad hominem” is Latin for, “I’m out of ideas; you win.”

skydaddy on September 24, 2009 at 4:17 PM

most of the world believes in something else or nothing at all

Umm, no.

33% of the world population is Christian, more than any other belief system. Islam is the next largest religion, with 20% of the population. Since Islam respects the authority of the Hebrew prophets and Scriptures, that makes 53% of the world population. (Rather a larger group than the 2.5% that are atheists.)

Regarding the name-calling… remember that “ad hominem” is Latin for, “I’m out of ideas; you win.”

skydaddy on September 24, 2009 at 4:17 PM
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ha ha ha so funny!

Dave Rywall on September 24, 2009 at 4:27 PM

Since Islam respects the authority of the Hebrew prophets and Scriptures

skydaddy on September 24, 2009 at 4:17 PM

Well, in theory maybe.

Esthier on September 24, 2009 at 4:49 PM

Since Islam respects the authority of the Hebrew prophets and Scriptures

skydaddy on September 24, 2009 at 4:17 PM

Well, in theory maybe.

Esthier on September 24, 2009 at 4:49 PM

Not in theory, statement, or demonstration. You forgot abrogation and the verse of the sword. No paradise for you, just a strike at the neck.

Blacksmith8 on September 24, 2009 at 7:11 PM

Since Islam respects the authority of the Hebrew prophets and Scriptures and fears the SWORD

skydaddy on September 24, 2009 at 4:17 PM

FIFY

Blacksmith8 on September 24, 2009 at 7:12 PM

Um, can we have that Canadian fellow come speak to President Obama for a bit? Please?

Aronne on September 24, 2009 at 11:13 PM

Sorry sweets, Tim Horton was a Canadian. Don’t come between a Canuck and their Timmies :)

pcbedamned on September 24, 2009 at 12:37 PM

I know. I’m an ex-Buffalonian. RIP Mr. Horton.

unclesmrgol on September 25, 2009 at 12:52 AM

Ahhh, so only your little book of fun’s prophecies are the ones everybody is supposed to listen to. How incredibly arrogant of you.

Dave Rywall on September 24, 2009 at 8:43 AM

At least he’s consistent. It’d be terrible to be part of a religion you don’t believe in, eh?

unclesmrgol on September 25, 2009 at 12:57 AM

No. My point was: he holds up the Bible as the be all end all guide to life without a shred of acknowledgement that most of the world believes in something else or nothing at all. What his book predicts matters; everyone else’s is completely wrong. Arrogant and an idiot.

Dave Rywall on September 24, 2009 at 3:49 PM

Prove he’s wrong, Dave. Prove he’s wrong.

unclesmrgol on September 25, 2009 at 12:59 AM

My point was: he holds up the Bible as the be all end all guide to life without a shred of acknowledgement that most of the world believes in something else or nothing at all.
–He does? Consider the wording of gary’s question. He never says “I subscribe to the beliefs of some Christian folks that the bible (which one?) predicted the establishment of modern Israel.” The implication of his question relates more to the rather fatuous insistence of so many people that Mahmoud Ahmadinejad didn’t say what he said about the Holocaust, Israel, and on occasion Jews in general because there was some sort of wonky error in translation.

Grunchy Cranola on September 25, 2009 at 6:13 AM

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