Video: Glenn Beck explains McCain comment, boils fake frog

posted at 10:07 pm on September 23, 2009 by Allahpundit

Doctor Z anticipated his argument before this even aired: “Glenn Beck’s slap at McCain is a retroactive expression of the idea that conservatism is just one crushing defeat away from total victory.” Just so. Would conservatives really be organizing tea parties, wonders GB, if it were McCain pushing cap-and-trade? Maybe not — but then, McCain wouldn’t have pushed health-care reform or a stimulus sick with pork or withdrawal from Afghanistan either. If you take Beck’s logic seriously, the country would actually have been much better off if we’d elected Dennis Kucinich, because ooh boy, what a conservative backlash that would have generated. Let’s go as far left as we can — let’s pass every irreversible economy-destroying liberal program that we can — because the more damage we do, the greater the odds of a small-government wave in the future. We’re just one crushing defeat away — forever. Frankly, I don’t know why he says that he hopes we’re not on the path to becoming Venezuela in the next few years. What better way to inspire an awesomely awesome conservative renewal than having a full-blown socialist dictator in power?

Some day he’s going to get his wish for a viable small-government third party. And it’s going to break his heart into a million pieces when he discovers that they’re willing to compromise their principles in the interest of governance too.


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So your goal is to keep America lilly white

MarkTheGreat on September 24, 2009 at 9:25 AM

Oh please. Enough with your strawmen.

Do you agree with Bush?

2Brave2Bscared on September 24, 2009 at 10:11 AM

What better way to inspire an awesomely awesome conservative renewal than having a full-blown socialist dictator in power?

What exactly do you propose that we already have?

Socialist, check
Shadow government of czars, check
No tolerance of dissent, check
Major ties to organized crime (ACORN, SEIU), check
etc etc

Wine_N_Dine on September 24, 2009 at 10:11 AM

Am I obnoxious?

MadisonLiberal on September 24, 2009 at 9:38 AM

Yes you are.

2Brave2Bscared on September 24, 2009 at 10:12 AM

Are you somehow under the impression that we have had the Republican and Democratic parties since the founding of this country?

MarkTheGreat on September 24, 2009 at 9:30 AM

No, dear.

Diane on September 24, 2009 at 10:28 AM

Am I obnoxious?

MadisonLiberal on September 24, 2009 at 9:38 AM

MadCon alter ego?

Diane on September 24, 2009 at 10:29 AM

I am glad he said that! Yesterday I tried to post that I agree with him for the very same reason, but was not sure why he said that.

jeffn21 on September 24, 2009 at 10:31 AM

MadisonConservative on September 23, 2009 at 10:25 PM

One George Corley Wallace won 46 electoral votes, the last 3rd party candidate to do so. The biggest reason why we still talk about 3rd Party candidates is Wallace, not Perot.

Which gets me to another point: Beck has been in the media business his entire adult life. If there was one impression he got, it was that the Republican Party has had a bad media image since the dawn of the film and radio age. FDR took advantage of film and radio like no other politician before (or, arguably, after) him, and used it to bury the GOP. This helped develop a culture within Hollywood and news media where the GOP could either do no right, or was nefarious in their victories.

Rush Limbaugh and FOX News have only begun to blunt this culture, and you can see the howls and screams from that culture itself. Beck isn’t strong enough of a personality yet to do anything other than to follow the “Bad GOP” cultural meme. So we’re just going to have to put up with this 3rd Party guff for a little bit longer.

BradSchwartze on September 24, 2009 at 10:35 AM

That video was edited. Somebody call Bertha.
/sarc

Blacksmith8 on September 24, 2009 at 10:43 AM

Ross Perot got 20 percent of the vote because people were fed up with both parties. The issue that buoyed Perot’s campaign is much more relevant today but there are too many ears that don’t hear. According to what I’ve discovered Cooper Tire just went under thanks to the importing of Chinese made auto tires. How long will it be until US citizens start dying in traffic accidents caused by faulty Chinese tires. China has no compunction about dumping their garbage on us. They didn’t care about poisoning children with lead, and/or date rape drugs in toys. It would not suprise me if they using radioactive contaminated steel to make tools and appliances for us to buy. This isn’t an attack against the Chinese people but is an attack against the communist government of China. We as a country have long forgotten a large part of what made us an economic power. It was making a durable, high quality product that would last for years. The companies that built those products had “word of mouth” advertising that was worth more than any radio or TV advertisement. As a country we also saved money or used layaway to buy those products therefore little or no debt. Today most companies are living on their reputation and backing it up with CRAP from China. Sadly we have been the frog for 40 – 50 years in a slowly boiling pot. This is what I don’t understand: Why can’t the American people see the devastation that has taken place. Everybody complains about the devastation of Katrina but they won’t utter a word about the devastation of at least 1,000,000 Katrina’s visited upon us by surrendering our manufacturing to China and other countries. Sadly our defense industry isn’t immune to this problem. A US manufacturer of missile guidance system parts closed down their US plant and moved lock, stock, and barrel to China. I don’t know about others on this forum but this scares the hell out of me. It has been ignored for so many years and now Osama Obama Hussein Bin Laden and other libturd nutcases are the result.

hamradio on September 24, 2009 at 11:04 AM

2Brave2Bscared on September 24, 2009 at 10:12 AM

The fact that you’re down to quoting altered posts somehow doesn’t surprise me one whit.

MadisonConservative on September 24, 2009 at 11:23 AM

MadCon alter ego?

Diane on September 24, 2009 at 10:29 AM

No, just 2Belligerent2Bcoherent’s fevered ranting.

MadisonConservative on September 24, 2009 at 11:24 AM

If you take Beck’s logic seriously,

There is always a caveat…he may be entertaining to some, but serious logic? I don’t think so…

right2bright on September 24, 2009 at 11:39 AM

Glenn Beck has been exposing the Allahpundit ILK all morning on his radio show. Progressive, elitist, and politically corrupted.

jay12 on September 24, 2009 at 11:47 AM

As he opens the box and the camera switches, his hand is too quickly all the way inside the box and when he closes the box his bending over move is not right. It was not a live shot getting the frog.

Norbitz on September 24, 2009 at 12:03 PM

Beck isn’t strong enough of a personality yet to do anything other than to follow the “Bad GOP” cultural meme. So we’re just going to have to put up with this 3rd Party guff for a little bit longer.

BradSchwartze on September 24, 2009 at 10:35 AM

Brad: You obviously don’t or haven’t listened to Beck. He is an equal opportunity attacker. He goes after corrupt politician period. The fact that they are a Dem or Repub makes no difference. Wrong is wrong. As to the 3rd party crap he has had plenty of opportunity to push one but I haven’t heard him do it so I’m not sure where it’s coming from. Not from the video above, that’s for sure.

New Patriot on September 24, 2009 at 12:05 PM

The shame of Beck is not understanding, fully, Roosevelt’s speech in 1910.
First, his quote that Beck stated doesn’t exist in the speech, the one closest does not reflect what Beck is trying to tie him to.

The fundamental thing to do for every man is to give him a chance to reach a place in which he will make the greatest possible contribution to the public welfare. Understand what I say there. Give him a chance, not push him up if he will not be pushed. Help any man who stumbles; if he lies down, it is a poor job to try to carry him; but if he is a worthy man, try your best to see that he gets a chance to show the worth that is in him.

This was a speech in 1910, when people were trying to buy there way out of servitude.
We were emerging, on the precipice of emerging as an industrial nation…and work conditions were incredibly dangerous. Child labor was unregulated, and children were being worked to death, instead of being schooled.
It was 1910, and a new awareness was taking place…responsibility for both labor and companies.

Nothing is more true than that excess of every kind is followed by reaction; a fact which should be pondered by reformer and reactionary alike. We are face to face with new conceptions of the relations of property to human welfare, chiefly because certain advocates of the rights of property as against the rights of men have been pushing their claims too far. The man who wrongly holds that every human right is secondary to his profit must now give way to the advocate of human welfare, who rightly maintains that every man holds his property subject to the general right of the community to regulate its use to whatever degree the public welfare may require it.

Which is why you can buy a house, and not have to worry that a strip bar is placed across the street, or a heavy industrial is not next door…this opened the door to zoning.
There is hardly one of you who do not think that the formation of the National Parks was not a good idea…the protection of these beautiful lands.
Now some libertarians don’t like that, but then if they had their way, their would be no Yellowstone, Yosemite (the first), Grand Canyon, etc.

I do not ask for the over centralization; but I do ask that we work in a spirit of broad and far-reaching nationalism where we work for what concerns our people as a whole. We are all Americans. Our common interests are as broad as the continent.

In the last analysis, the most important elements in any man’s career must be the sum of those qualities which, in the aggregate, we speak of as character. If he has not got it, then no law that the wit of man can devise, no administration of the law by the boldest and strongest executive, will avail to help him. We must have the right kind of character, character that makes a man, first of all, a good man in the home, a good father, and a good husband, that makes a man a good neighbor. You must have that, and, then, in addition, you must have the kind of law and the kind of administration of the law which will give to those qualities in the private citizen the best possible chance for development.

Beck is a hack…and hardly a historian…

right2bright on September 24, 2009 at 12:08 PM

I don’t agree with Becks’s argument, but i don’t think it’s a crazy idea. You can certainly make the case that Carter ended up being good for America by ushering in the Reagan era as a reaction to his presidency. The question is simply if the conservative backlash is powerful enough to correct the damage already done, and to put us in a position that’s even better than where we were before. In the case of Obama, I agree with Allah. But to say that according to his logic we should have elected Kucinich,is just not true.

red26 on September 24, 2009 at 12:10 PM

I was absolutely disgusted when McCain played delegate poker with Huckabee to keep Romney from gaining an advantage. I simply knew he was the Spruce Goose from the beginning. And try as many might to say that Palin was was his death knell, I disagree. She was the only thing making the corpse’s chest appear to be breathing at all.

Say what you will about Beck. Sometimes, he’s the only reason some of the blue-blood of corruption is ever reddened by the oxygen. He might go off the rails here and there in a theatrical sense, but who cares?

I always find it telling when liberals are “concerned” about the collateral damage to the conservative movement–especially to the point of detailing those concerns in print journalism–supposedly caused by one of our own. When liberals offer advice on how to “save” conservatism, we should see the advice in reverse polarization, and hit the gas. Panic has set in. Linda Blair is glaring at the vial of Holy water.

McCain would have been an equivocating disaster on many, many levels (screwing us at the very last minute, legislatively). I voted for him, but only in the sense that I’d vote for slow-growing prostate cancer over an oat-cell spot on the lung.

The Therapist on September 24, 2009 at 12:22 PM

Beck is right.

At least he has the stones to say it.

President McCain would have been a disaster for the GOP and the conservative movement, especially with a Democratically controlled House and Senate.

JohnBG on September 24, 2009 at 12:34 PM

How can we even complain about a damn thing Obama does now if it would have been ever so much worse to have McCain in office?

As is typical, this will be yet another 10 page thread of pure speculation. Did you all think this way when you pulled the lever for McCain? We have the same information now as we did then. We knew what an awful candidate he was and still made the most sane choice at the time. I distinctly remember hearing everyone talking about the “alternative being so much worse,” while campaigning for McCain.
But, now, in the midst of an ACTUAL Obama admin, people are more interested in speculation over imaginary presidencies as opposed to the actual, truly radical presidency we are living through. How much of this is knee-jerk head bobbing, simply because a favorite pundit said it?

Diane on September 23, 2009 at 10:29 PM

I think you’re exactly right. The exact same argument was made before the election, and a number of people said they’d rather vote for a Democrat than for a Republican who would do some of the same things.

The argument is valid for a few issues, but the people who adopted that position took their eyes off the fact that a president affects a lot more issues. McCain probably would have given us a lame stimulus bill, and either cap-and-trade or some other global warming crapfest. But as bad a candidate as McCain was, he wouldn’t have pushed for socialized medicine, he wouldn’t have sucked up to Ahmedinajad when the Iran election happened, he wouldn’t have tried to restore Zelaya to Honduras, and we certainly wouldn’t have had media worship to contend with. They only liked McCain when he was the alternative to a conservative. Once a real liberal jumped into the race, it was open season on McCain.

Beck just made the same argument that was made before the election. Has anything really changed?

tom on September 24, 2009 at 12:51 PM

Beck is right.

At least he has the stones to say it.

President McCain would have been a disaster for the GOP and the conservative movement, especially with a Democratically controlled House and Senate.

JohnBG on September 24, 2009 at 12:34 PM

Beck is a fool…you don’t win a war by voluntarily losing battles.
Now that Obama is a complete disaster, and it looks like a one termer, Beck can be so bold.
But, one term presidents are rare now…if six weeks before election their is an economic bump, Republicans are out of power 4 more years.
Sorry, but a 1/2 conservative is better then 8 years of Obama…our only prayer is if we get a balance of power in the senate or house.
Beck is becoming more and more apparent as a media hack, searching for ways to up his ratings.

right2bright on September 24, 2009 at 1:01 PM

right2bright on September 24, 2009 at 1:01 PM

And, we would have been winning by electing McCain?
Wow! That is some foolish logic. For one thing – McCain isn’t 1/2 conservative.

Domestically, McCain is very similar to Obama – and much more effective at crossing the aisle – since it’s not much of a walk for him…

MYounger on September 24, 2009 at 1:15 PM

The Therapist on September 24, 2009 at 12:22 PM

I would like to give you a virtual handshake. Well said.

SGinNC on September 24, 2009 at 1:59 PM

I only see one worthwhile message here. Don’t let the media pick our next candidate and we won’t have to endure incessant campaign post mortems.

SKYFOX on September 24, 2009 at 2:02 PM

Allah, m’boy, my old Poli Sci prof would have used this as a screaming, red-letter illustration of “The Law of Imaginary Horribles.” Just one more sip of kool-aide, son, and then get some coffee in you, doncha think?

middleright on September 24, 2009 at 2:11 PM

AND I DOUBT THAT IS A BAD THING, WHEN HIS SHOW IS ALL ABOUT EXPOSING OBAMA.

mooseburger on September 24, 2009 at 1:35 AM

Obama is exposing himself and unless I am wrong, that makes him a pervert.

Johan Klaus on September 24, 2009 at 2:43 PM

Beck’s argument is no more categorically wrong than it is categorically right. It is correct within certain constraints, and in absence of those constraints, it breaks down. Yes, McCain might not have had an enervating effect on the natural aversion Americans have to big-government progressivism, the progresssivism that McCain wholeheartedly subscribes to, but it most certainly would have had such an effect on the only people in the United States that can and would do anything about it, the GOP and Blue Poodle politicians currently in power.

I said this back in early 2008. McCain would have been a disaster. A Pyrrhic victory at best, but like Pyrrhus, we had to fight (i.e. vote for McCain). In the end, we’re better off losing that battle in order to regroup, reorganize and hopefully win the war.

spmat on September 24, 2009 at 3:32 PM

Just one more sip of kool-aide, son, and then get some coffee in you, doncha think?

middleright on September 24, 2009 at 2:11 PM

Bet your PoliSci prof didn’t know that Jim Jones was a raving progressive socialist and a major player in progressive politics in San Fran in the 70s.

spmat on September 24, 2009 at 3:56 PM

I hate to be the one to invoke the conservative blog equivalent of Godwin’s Law by bringing LGF into this, but have you guys seen what that maniac is up to today?

CJ screams frog killer, finds out it was a fake frog; doesn’t care:

This could be Beck’s final meltdown.

Even if it was faked, this is unbelievably ugly. I’m pretty astounded that Fox News let this air

Glenn Beck’s show is on in the middle of the afternoon, when children can watch.

That’s all I’m going to say about this. It’s so irresponsible it makes me nauseous.

How the hell this man lived through The Bugs Bunny Show airing on Saturday mornings, I’ll never know.

Now back to your regularly scheduled thread. Sorry but that could not go without being commented upon

CreatedOrSaved on September 24, 2009 at 4:36 PM

Saying that you want Barack Obama in power so that he will screw things up so fast that Americans wont have any alternative to reject his policies is unfathomably stupid and traitorous to the country.

It marks Glen Beck as a moron.

Saying that you are for Obama to wreck the country to teach people a lesson on conservatism is like saying that you want your daughter gang raped to teach her a lesson about chastity.

Boxy_Brown on September 24, 2009 at 5:22 PM

Glenn should just tell people to FROG OFF!

gullxn on September 24, 2009 at 5:28 PM

Obama’s toadies are furious with Beck!

profitsbeard on September 24, 2009 at 7:19 PM

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