Video: ‘Cuda attack in Hong Kong

posted at 4:15 pm on September 23, 2009 by Allahpundit

For a speech that some on the left stupidly maintained was an elaborate “prank,” it sure does seem to have been treated pretty seriously by those who were there (seriously enough, in fact, to inspire two Palin-haters to walk out in a huff). Alas, the event was closed to the press so this tiny clip of her burnishing her “Main Street” credentials ahead of 2012 is the best I can do, but the Journal got hold of the entire vid somehow and published some of the choicer excerpts. She touches on “death panels,” of course, but for my money this is the most significant bit:

Lack of government wasn’t the problem. Government policies were the problem. The marketplace didn’t fail. It became exactly as common sense would expect it to. The government ordered the loosening of lending standards. The Federal Reserve kept interest rates low. The government forced lending institutions to give loans to people who, as I say, couldn’t afford them. Speculators spotted new investment vehicles, jumped on board and rating agencies underestimated risks…

How can we discuss reform without addressing the government policies at the root of the problems? The root of the collapse? And how can we think that setting up the Fed as the monitor of systemic risk in the financial sector will result in meaningful reform? The words “fox” and “hen house” come to mind. The Fed’s decisions helped create the bubble. Look at the root cause of most asset bubbles, and you’ll see the Fed somewhere in the background.

Ending the Fed is currently job one among the Paulnuts and an occasional hobbyhorse for Glenn Beck. Sounds to me like Palin’s positioning herself as the strong-form libertarian rEVOLution alternative to Mitt and Huck. Are the Paulnuts going to cotton to her reputation for social conservatism, though? Seems like an odd match in style, if not in substance, but not a bad strategy all in all.

Palin-skeptics may, perhaps, enjoy Time’s write-up of the event, featuring snotty asides about her “rattling off financial terms of art” and “rambling” about the ancient land bridge that once joined Asia to Alaska. Exit question: Is Sarahcuda really more “Main Street” than Huck? Dude, the guy used to eat squirrel — that he cooked in a popcorn machine. How much more “authentic” can you get? I ask you.

Update: The phrase of the day is, of course, “common sense.”

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And her family’s finances would have been used as a campaign ad as would have all those frivolous ethics charges. Only they wouldn’t be called frivolous. She was in a no win situation. I usually assume that when people seem to do something that doesn’t make sense in their lives that they have more information then I do. But if it’s a deal breaker for you, that’s the way it is.

Cindy Munford on September 23, 2009 at 5:57 PM

They can still be used as ads. I don’t see how she’s prevented that.

As to her finances, McCain’s were used as ads too, so I don’t really see how that changes either.

I do assume she has information I don’t, just like I assume Obama has information I don’t. That doesn’t keep me from forming an opinion about their actions.

Still, I never said it was a deal breaker.

Esthier on September 23, 2009 at 6:02 PM

Really? Like her touting her support of cap and trade and other measures to fight “climate change” in her vice president debate with Joe Biden? Or does that not count considering she’s since done a complete 180 flip-flop on the issue without giving any explanation for why she changed her mind? Heck, I doubt most of her supporters even remember that she was for cap and trade before she was against it.

Either she supported cap and trade because McCain did or she have a change of heart and mind because she is against Crap & Trade now with a vengeance and calls it a “jobs killer.”
(BTW, you’re raising a Leftist talking point…)

It may make the big Palin fans angry, but the comparisons of her to Huckabee aren’t all that far off. While I think she does hold more strongly to conservative principles, I think she like the Huckster are first and foremost populists.

2Brave2Bscared on September 23, 2009 at 5:39 PM

Huckabee couldn’t dream of having Palin’s successful track record nor her popularity as Governor of Arkansas.
The man is basically a high taxes, big government Liberal underneath his RINO skin.

Jenfidel on September 23, 2009 at 6:02 PM

Somehow I get the feeling that if this were Obama or some other Democrat who had done this (resigned mid-term from Governorship), your opinion of the move would be a lot different.
2Brave2Bscared on September 23, 2009 at 5:43 PM

The difference is,if it happened to a popular democrat figure,the msm would have been all over it ,accusing the republican party of a coordinated attack against a popular democrat figure.They would have also pointed out,loud and clear,how ridiculous the charges were,etc etc etc>And it would have been nipped in the bud.
theTarCzar on September 23, 2009 at 5:50 PM

Truer words have never been spoken!

SoldiersMom on September 23, 2009 at 6:03 PM

O/T AP source: Census worker hanged with ‘fed’ on body.

You KNOW how the media is going to play this.

Firefly_76 on September 23, 2009 at 6:03 PM

They can still be used as ads. I don’t see how she’s prevented that.

So what?

As to her finances, McCain’s were used as ads too, so I don’t really see how that changes either.

Esthier on September 23, 2009 at 6:02 PM

If the ethics violations lawsuits (plus her VP candidacy) proved anything, it’s that Sarah’s Finances are CLEAN.
In fact, she’s been gone over the MSM with a fine-toothed comb and they have found bupkis!

Jenfidel on September 23, 2009 at 6:04 PM

Palin is absolutely capitalizing on the antipathy for the Federal Reserve that Ron Paul has stirred up. There is no way to look around that – Paul is at the center of the scrutiny on the Fed, and any politician that uses that momentum is doing so because of Paul’s efforts.

It’s a very smart move to parallel Ron Paul’s domestic policies, due to the fact that he’s been right since the first GOP primary debate. The problem is that Palin has zero credibility on these issues. It would take two second to find a YouTube of her in the VP debate saying the government needs to step in and save big Wall Street for your safety.

As someone who voted for Paul in the primaries, I see little substance behind her remarks. However I hold out hope that she is truly educating herself on Austrian economics and the bubble-blowing history of the Federal Reserve.

Ahh a Lion on September 23, 2009 at 6:05 PM

Palin/Huckabee 2012, the Boris and Natasha ticket, moose and squirrel.

Bill C on September 23, 2009 at 5:47 PM

Awesome ticket. Show videos of Bullwinkle’s football highlights from WassamattaU juxtaposed with Palin’s basketball vids.

I think that Rocky would be conciliatory though like McCain, but you can’t doubt Rocky’s heroism.

Hey, did anybody catch that Axelrod sort of looks like Boris?

:)

Sapwolf on September 23, 2009 at 6:06 PM

Still, I never said it was a deal breaker.

Esthier on September 23, 2009 at 6:02 PM

Good! I have reservations myself but an open mind and a lot of time hopefully will answer our questions.

Cindy Munford on September 23, 2009 at 6:06 PM

Quaddafi at UN.

The VERY VERY VERY STRONG CASE for TERM LIMITS.

Sapwolf on September 23, 2009 at 6:06 PM

Would you be shocked if I also suggested she has a speech writer?

jhffmn on September 23, 2009 at 6:01 PM

No, but I resent your implications that she’s a dumb little “girl” or “broad” who can’t think, speak or act without (male) advisers helping her!

Did you say the same things about Governor Reagan when he ran for President?
When he gave “The Speech,” did he have a speechwriter write it for him?

Jenfidel on September 23, 2009 at 6:07 PM

Firefly_76 on September 23, 2009 at 6:03 PM

What does ‘fed’ mean?

Cindy Munford on September 23, 2009 at 6:08 PM

Ahh a Lion on September 23, 2009 at 6:05 PM

That was parroting for McCain.

The speech in HK is the real Sarah.

Sapwolf on September 23, 2009 at 6:08 PM

Wrong!

Sapwolf on September 23, 2009 at 6:01 PM

Maybe I am. Time will settle this for us.

Esthier on September 23, 2009 at 6:08 PM

Allah is a pussy.

Haunches on September 23, 2009 at 6:09 PM

Yes, we know it’s “obligatory”. Too bad Sanford turned out to be a bigger idiot than you think the Cuda is.

alliebobbitt on September 23, 2009 at 6:11 PM

Jenfidel on September 23, 2009 at 6:07 PM

lol what?

I was excited because the following from Palin’s speech:

The opposite of a common-sense conservative is a liberalism that holds that there is no human problem that government can’t fix if only the right people are put in charge. Unfortunately, history and common sense are not on its side. We don’t trust utopian promises; we deal with human nature as it is.

Reminds me a great deal of the central theme in “A conflict of visions” and I have this sneaking suspicion that the two are working together. If you want to make that into me being a sexist, then by all means go ahead.

jhffmn on September 23, 2009 at 6:12 PM

What does ‘fed’ mean?

Cindy Munford on September 23, 2009 at 6:08 PM

Not the federal reserve, but the AP report (linked on Drudge) states:
“Investigators are still trying to determine whether the death was a killing or a suicide, and if a killing, whether the motive was related to his government job or to anti-government sentiment.” (emphasis added)

I know Bachmann recently stated her intention not to cooperate with the census (beyond what is constitutionally required). My only concern is that they’ll pin this – if they can – on us “right wing nuts”

Firefly_76 on September 23, 2009 at 6:12 PM

So what?

That wasn’t my argument. Cindy was saying it was a reason to resign. I only countered that resigning might not have accomplished anything in that regard.

If the ethics violations lawsuits (plus her VP candidacy) proved anything, it’s that Sarah’s Finances are CLEAN.

Or that she’s broke, which was Cindy’s point I thought.

In fact, she’s been gone over the MSM with a fine-toothed comb and they have found bupkis!

Jenfidel on September 23, 2009 at 6:04 PM

Sure, but they found enough that most Americans right now wouldn’t vote for her.

She still has to change a few minds to get elected.

Good! I have reservations myself but an open mind and a lot of time hopefully will answer our questions.

Cindy Munford on September 23, 2009 at 6:06 PM

I’m certain it will. I would have been more comfortable with her if she’d finished two terms as governor, but who knows what will happen in the future?

Esthier on September 23, 2009 at 6:13 PM

The problem is that Palin has zero credibility on these issues.

Why would that be?

It would take two second to find a YouTube of her in the VP debate saying the government needs to step in and save big Wall Street for your safety.

Sure about that?

As someone who voted for Paul in the primaries, I see little substance behind her remarks. However I hold out hope that she is truly educating herself on Austrian economics and the bubble-blowing history of the Federal Reserve.

Ahh a Lion on September 23, 2009 at 6:05 PM

Anyone who is a student of American History can discover that President Woodrow Wilson pulled a fast one when he and the DemocRat-controlled Congress set up the Fed in 1913.
Ron Paul doesn’t have a lock on ideas about what’s good for this great republic.

Jenfidel on September 23, 2009 at 6:13 PM

The speech in HK is the real Sarah.

Let’s hope so, because we all know the robust financial support that ‘Paulnuts’ are capable of.

Ahh a Lion on September 23, 2009 at 6:13 PM

Sure, but they found enough that most Americans right now wouldn’t vote for her.

She still has to change a few minds to get elected.

Esthier on September 23, 2009 at 6:13 PM

I can think of a dozen people off the top of my head who would vote for her, on both sides of the aisle!
How can she change minds like yours that are set in cement as to how they feel about her already?
Most people hate her because she’s a Christian, she’s pro-Life and she didn’t abort Trig.

Jenfidel on September 23, 2009 at 6:15 PM

Palin became Governor 13 years younger than Reagan.
Yes, but Reagan didn’t quit partway through his first term as Governor.

Palin’s biggest problem is her supporters. There is no one to tell her that she will have to have — and follow through on — some serious governmental/managerial (preferably both) experience before she can think of running for the presidency. Her fans think she is ready now. By the Chicago Jesus’s standards she is, maybe, but no one else’s.

One very likely aftereffect of Osama Obama’s reign will be a close scrutiny of what candidates have accomplished, versus what they have said. That’s going to shoot down a lot of people, and it will get her if she does no more than make speeches and write on Facebook.

As always, I know reaction to what I’m saying — if any — will come as howls of outrage from the already converted, but I actually would like to see Palin win. I would also like to see her show competence in the White House, and a percentage of that comes from having had to deal with serious issues in a meaningful way before taking office.

It also has to do with not quitting before completing your job when you get one.

MrScribbler on September 23, 2009 at 5:33 PM

There’s just one little problem – We don’t have time. Obama is sheer destruction at the speed of light. The rules that you reference don’t apply in this game. The like of a Sarah Palin is more than just a coincidence in this age of Obamaterror. She is a Godsend; a once in a lifetime anti-dote to the poison that Obambi is pumping through our system with intent to kill.

If not her, no one. If not now, never.

tigerlily on September 23, 2009 at 6:17 PM

If you want to make that into me being a sexist, then by all means go ahead.

jhffmn on September 23, 2009 at 6:12 PM

I don’t have a problem with her consulting or even reading Sowell’s work–good stuff.
I just object to the kind of reasoning that says “but for….her having Sowell as an adviser,” she wouldn’t be able to articulate her stance on Conservative fiscal policy.

Jenfidel on September 23, 2009 at 6:18 PM

Palin is absolutely capitalizing on the antipathy for the Federal Reserve that Ron Paul has stirred up. There is no way to look around that – Paul is at the center of the scrutiny on the Fed, and any politician that uses that momentum is doing so because of Paul’s efforts.

It’s a very smart move to parallel Ron Paul’s domestic policies, due to the fact that he’s been right since the first GOP primary debate. The problem is that Palin has zero credibility on these issues. It would take two second to find a YouTube of her in the VP debate saying the government needs to step in and save big Wall Street for your safety.

As someone who voted for Paul in the primaries, I see little substance behind her remarks. However I hold out hope that she is truly educating herself on Austrian economics and the bubble-blowing history of the Federal Reserve.

Ahh a Lion on September 23, 2009 at 6:05 PM

You don’t know her yet, her philosophy. Besides, Dr. Paul is not the originator of Anti-Fed sentiment. After all, he’s just a tool of the Illuminati believers.

Sarah is not Anti-Fed per se. She’s just stating the fact that the Fed has made a series of wrong fiscal policies … proven wrong as time has revealed.

TheAlamos on September 23, 2009 at 6:18 PM

There’s just one little problem – We don’t have time. Obama is sheer destruction at the speed of light. The rules that you reference don’t apply in this game. The like of a Sarah Palin is more than just a coincidence in this age of Obamaterror. She is a Godsend; a once in a lifetime anti-dote to the poison that Obambi is pumping through our system with intent to kill.

If not her, no one. If not now, never.

tigerlily on September 23, 2009 at 6:17 PM

+1000.
Couldn’t have said it better!
Thank you.

Jenfidel on September 23, 2009 at 6:19 PM

She doesn’t want to destroy the evil banking Joooooos and the Federal Reserve. She is saying that we should not be spending so much and relying on the Fed to just print more money. If she can get some Ron Paul supporters on board and keep them in line throughout a campaign, then great. Presidential candidates need enthusiastic supporters, and Sarah Palin has no shortage of that.

alliebobbitt on September 23, 2009 at 6:19 PM

Firefly_76 on September 23, 2009 at 6:12 PM

Well let’s hope there isn’t a lot of speculation by the media before more facts are in. Considering their recent record, they should probably wait a hot minute before blaming the Right.

Cindy Munford on September 23, 2009 at 6:19 PM

Palin: “Hey, Allah, how does my moose taste?”

faraway on September 23, 2009 at 6:19 PM

What happened, to put things very simply, is that Reagan formed a coalition with statist Republicans to win power, compromised with them and with the Democrats in order to preserve power and to maintain greater freedom of movement in foreign and defense policy, then handed the reigns over to the Bush-Clinton centrists. Palinism represents the attempt to revive the element of Reaganism that was always more dynamic and popular, and that has been virtually on hold (with a brief respite ca. 1994) since Reagan’s first term.

Thank you, CKMcCleod!

That, in a nutshell, is why the Dems and the A$$Clown GOP oppose her tooth and nail-she wants to revive the Reagan/Goldwater coalition that won in 1980, the one that the Bushies buried in 1989-1991.

We folk out here in the grass roots have our work cut out for us!

victor82 on September 23, 2009 at 6:20 PM

I can think of a dozen people off the top of my head who would vote for her, on both sides of the aisle!

And yet polls indicate otherwise. Even accounting for the typical bias in the polls, she still has ground to cover.

How can she change minds like yours that are set in cement as to how they feel about her already?

I never said my mind was set in cement and don’t understand why you think it is. I’m talking about her weaknesses, not reasons I won’t vote for her.

Most people hate her because she’s a Christian, she’s pro-Life and she didn’t abort Trig.

Jenfidel on September 23, 2009 at 6:15 PM

Is that what you think about me? If so, I’m offended, and I’m not joking.

Esthier on September 23, 2009 at 6:23 PM

GOP Girl POWER:

Palin
Cheney
Condi
Meg Witman
Michelle Bachman

TN Mom on September 23, 2009 at 5:48 PM

Don’t forget about Marsha Blackburn and Jerri Thompson as well… I am not so sure about Meg Whitman though… It was all over the conservative blogs that she said she liked Van Jones… I need to find out more about her…

http://rightwingnews.com/mt331/2009/09/meg_whitman_loves_van_jones.php

squeek71 on September 23, 2009 at 6:24 PM

If she can get some Ron Paul supporters on board and keep them in line throughout a campaign, then great. Presidential candidates need enthusiastic supporters, and Sarah Palin has no shortage of that.

alliebobbitt on September 23, 2009 at 6:19 PM

Condescending much? She’ll never get the true believers. She may get the libertarians who really like Paul, but just can’t get past some of his issues. No need to keep those folks “in line.”

Firefly_76 on September 23, 2009 at 6:24 PM

Palin became Governor 13 years younger than Reagan.
Yes, but Reagan didn’t quit partway through his first term as Governor.

MrScribbler on September 23, 2009 at 5:33 PM

Wrong. At the same age, Reagan was a Hollywood Quitter. A failing member of Actors’ Guild, a union? And he didn’t quit. He was FIRED by GE.

Reagan’s substance came out at his 50s. not 40s.

TheAlamos on September 23, 2009 at 6:25 PM

Palin is absolutely capitalizing on the antipathy for the Federal Reserve that Ron Paul has stirred up.
Ahh a Lion on September 23

Who’s Ron Paul?

DSchoen on September 23, 2009 at 6:26 PM

Are the Paulnuts going to cotton to her reputation for social conservatism, though? Seems like an odd match in style, if not in substance, but not a bad strategy all in all.

It depends on how broad of social conservatism you are talking about, and the depths to which Palin is willing to go to enforce it.

Remember, Ron Paul holds a lot of very SoCon views. He holds that conception marks the start of human life, not as a political truth, but as a scientific one. On others, such as gay marriage, he holds views that are very much at odds with the SoCon line. But he is very much a Christian, and from my experience, many of his followers are even more so.

Now, the question is, does Palin view the federal government more as a vehicle for enforcing her SoCon views, or as an obstacle to state governments doing so? If it is the former, most Paulbearers are going to have none of it. If it is the latter, then most will probably join up with enthusiasm.

JohnGalt23 on September 23, 2009 at 6:27 PM

How can we discuss reform without addressing the government policies at the root of the problems?

The entire month of August townhall meetings on health care captured in one sentence!

Mallard T. Drake on September 23, 2009 at 6:27 PM

But Boris and Natasha are in the white house….

Fighton03 on September 23, 2009 at 4:35 PM

OT: Did you name your kids after Russians like Obama?

faraway on September 23, 2009 at 6:28 PM

And yet, you’re still here.

Allahpundit on September 23, 2009 at 4:37 PM

You would almost think Allah wanted to follow LGF into obscurity.

alliebobbitt on September 23, 2009 at 6:28 PM

Quaddafi at UN.

The VERY VERY VERY STRONG CASE for TERM LIMITS.

Sapwolf on September 23, 2009 at 6:06 PM

His face is like The picture of Dorian Grey.

tigerlily on September 23, 2009 at 6:29 PM

Condescending much? She’ll never get the true believers. She may get the libertarians who really like Paul, but just can’t get past some of his issues. No need to keep those folks “in line.”

Firefly_76 on September 23, 2009 at 6:24 PM

Allie is probably talking about all the Truthers.

Esthier on September 23, 2009 at 6:30 PM

I think that Sarah’s take on the Fed is spot on. Most people just don’t get what happened and during the campaign McCIn didn’t explain it so Sarah distilling it like this really helps. I can’t wait to read the whe thing.

Sarah was very much aware that those who dislike her would tag her as a quitter but Sarah does what she thinks believes is right and having a complished her objectives and understanding she was under attack by Obama’s minions … nd that they had her pinned down in AK and were attempting to bk her … Outsmarted them and advanced in a different direction. I bet you anything Obama and co which they would have seen that coming because their plan has totally backfired on them.

Palin can’ t be compared to anyone ESP not Huckabee or Paul… Palin is unique, exceptional and authentic!

CCRWM on September 23, 2009 at 6:30 PM

You would almost think Allah wanted to follow LGF into obscurity.

alliebobbitt on September 23, 2009 at 6:28 PM

He doesn’t have to worry about that.

Esthier on September 23, 2009 at 6:31 PM

The VERY VERY VERY STRONG CASE for TERM LIMITS.
Sapwolf on September 23

That and what happen when you live in a desert starring at the sun with no beer.

BTW what happened to his face?

Did he go to Nancy’s Botox doc?

DSchoen on September 23, 2009 at 6:31 PM

We folk out here in the grass roots have our work cut out for us!

victor82 on September 23, 2009

I don’t think the Bush family will be a factor against her. They think they still have influence, but with whom?
I voted four times for them but now I wouldn’t cross the street to throw dirt on them if they were on fire. Don’t think I’m the only one.

SKYFOX on September 23, 2009 at 6:32 PM

In fact, she’s been gone over the MSM with a fine-toothed comb and they have found bupkis!

Jenfidel on September 23, 2009 at 6:04 PM

Well, there was that tanning bed…. and we all know that no good comes from those things!

JamesLee on September 23, 2009 at 6:32 PM

Condescending much? She’ll never get the true believers. She may get the libertarians who really like Paul, but just can’t get past some of his issues. No need to keep those folks “in line.”

Firefly_76 on September 23, 2009 at 6:24 PM

How many blogs were Ron Paul supporters banned from?

alliebobbitt on September 23, 2009 at 6:32 PM

Sorry for the mispellings…typing from my Iphone

CCRWM on September 23, 2009 at 6:33 PM

And yet polls indicate otherwise. Even accounting for the typical bias in the polls, she still has ground to cover.

I never said my mind was set in cement and don’t understand why you think it is. I’m talking about her weaknesses, not reasons I won’t vote for her.

Is that what you think about me? If so, I’m offended, and I’m not joking.

Esthier on September 23, 2009 at 6:23 PM

No, it’s not necessarily what I think about you.
(To quote Ayn Rand’s character Howard Roarke in The Fountainhead, I really don’t think of you at all. Sorry!)
All I know is that you’re setting up a gauntlet of hurdles that you require Palin to jump over in order to win the presidency and I suggest that no one (not even Reagan, George Washington or Lincoln) could manage it.
Why you’re setting up these prohibitory hurdles is your own affair, but I can at least suspect that’s it’s really due to one of the reasons I gave.
In all honesty, there’s no substantive reason *not* to consider Palin as fully qualified to be POTUS right now.

And when I compare the speech she gave in HK to the one NObama gave to the UN–both today–I know who I think looks and sounds like an American President and it ain’t the half-black guy with the big ears.

Jenfidel on September 23, 2009 at 6:33 PM

Great, now everybody is a “Paulnut”

BuckNutty on September 23, 2009 at 4:21 PM

From your lips to God’s ears.

JohnGalt23 on September 23, 2009 at 6:33 PM

Allie is probably talking about all the Truthers.

Esthier on September 23, 2009 at 6:30 PM

I was, thank you. I know that wasn’t the core of his support, and I liked him a lot during the primaries, though I disagreed with him on several issues. But he had some strange supporters, and Lew Rockwell is a nasty human being.

alliebobbitt on September 23, 2009 at 6:35 PM

Allie is probably talking about all the Truthers.

Esthier on September 23, 2009 at 6:30 PM

OK, fair enough. I do wish that folks wouldn’t ASSuME that Ron Paul supporters are all anti-semitic truthers. I have met many who are not.

Firefly_76 on September 23, 2009 at 6:36 PM

Allahpundit, why is everything “obligatory?”

Oink on September 23, 2009 at 6:38 PM

I’m sorry, but I have to confess: I just truly loathe Ron Paul!
There.
I said it!
I feel a lot better.

Jenfidel on September 23, 2009 at 6:39 PM

As long as the Religious Right makes her their spokesman, she isn’t going to get any Libertarian cred. Too much emphasis was put on her committment to being against abortion and not enough to her moderate governing.

Speedwagon82 on September 23, 2009 at 6:40 PM

Some comments about Palin are so condescending it’s astonishing the writer could look past his nose to see the keyboard.

“As someone who voted for Paul in the primaries, I see little substance behind her remarks. However I hold out hope that she is truly educating herself on Austrian economics and the bubble-blowing history of the Federal Reserve.

Ahh a Lion on September 23, 2009 at 6:05 PM”

Unlike Obama (who knows what the hell he did at university besides do drugs and travel to Pakistan?), Palin has actually taken economics courses. So she says she made a D on macroeconomics, but the statement above is so astonishingly part of the Democrat media mantra that Palin is stupid and needs to be educated. Palin isn’t Ivy, but she’s better educated and has more common sense than Obama.

Anybody with an inkling of sense who has been following economic events in this country or observing the role the Fed has been playing in our economy will have come to some kind of conclusion without having to “truly educate herself.” The point at which she wants to develop her ideas or verify her conclusions is when the research.

A person cannot hold forth sensibly on a wide range of topics unless there is already a knowledge base there beyond the words that are written on the paper. Palin has demonstrated via her Facebook page that not only does she have a knowledge base, she also has an inquiring and analytical mind. That’s more than anybody can say about Obama.

SilentWatcher on September 23, 2009 at 6:40 PM

This woman is a keeper folks. Name another leading politcal figure that talks about Reagan AND thatcher in such glowing terms. Name anotherfigure besides ron Paul that attacks the FEd. Name another that says government is not the solution but the problem?

waiting…….

that’s right if you want government out of your lives Palin is the last hope. And if she wins and governes like bush/obama I will know the country can never be free again

unseen on September 23, 2009 at 6:40 PM

(To quote Ayn Rand’s character Howard Roarke in The Fountainhead, I really don’t think of you at all. Sorry!)

He didn’t say sorry and only used it for people who came to him. You approached me in this discussion, so the comment falls flat.

All I know is that you’re setting up a gauntlet of hurdles that you require Palin to jump over in order to win the presidency and I suggest that no one (not even Reagan, George Washington or Lincoln) could manage it.

I’m not requiring anything. I’m just not pretending there’s a red carpet laid out for her to the White House.

but I can at least suspect that’s it’s really due to one of the reasons I gave.

Suspect it all you want (of course that would mean thinking of me), but you couldn’t be more wrong about me.

In all honesty, there’s no substantive reason *not* to consider Palin as fully qualified to be POTUS right now.

Trust me, that’s not honesty.

And when I compare the speech she gave in HK to the one NObama gave to the UN–both today–I know who I think looks and sounds like an American President and it ain’t the half-black guy with the big ears.

Jenfidel on September 23, 2009 at 6:33 PM

There’s obviously no comparison, but that isn’t saying much.

Esthier on September 23, 2009 at 6:41 PM

+1000.
Couldn’t have said it better!
Thank you.

Jenfidel on September 23, 2009 at 6:19 PM

You are very welcome. A little girl-power now and then is good for everyone.

tigerlily on September 23, 2009 at 6:41 PM

OK, fair enough. I do wish that folks wouldn’t ASSuME that Ron Paul supporters are all anti-semitic truthers. I have met many who are not.

Firefly_76 on September 23, 2009 at 6:36 PM

I know and understand. My brother was something of a Paul supporter, though my brother thinks he wasn’t serious about his foreign policy plans, either that or that the reality of the situation would force Paul to reconsider.

Esthier on September 23, 2009 at 6:42 PM

Abortion, Paul had a 70 NARAL rating in 2006 I think.

maybe 60, it was high.

jp on September 23, 2009 at 4:52 PM

No, it was 35

So, are you just grossly misinformed, or are you deliberately lying to the readers of this board?

JohnGalt23 on September 23, 2009 at 6:45 PM

He didn’t say sorry

No, I did.
I try to be polite.

and only used it for people who came to him. You approached me in this discussion, so the comment falls flat.

Uh, no.
The remark I made about Palin’s detractors being anti-Christian and/or anti-abortion wasn’t aimed at you…and yet, you took it personally.
Hmmm.

I’m not requiring anything. I’m just not pretending there’s a red carpet laid out for her to the White House.

No one said that there was.

Suspect it all you want (of course that would mean thinking of me), but you couldn’t be more wrong about me.

Whatever you say, Esthier.

Trust me, that’s not honesty.

Yeah, it is.
I have yet to read a substantive reason that says that Palin can’t be a strong, effective President.
And it’s been over a year….

There’s obviously no comparison, but that isn’t saying much.

Esthier on September 23, 2009 at 6:41 PM

You’ll think differently when America has to reap the whirlwind of the capitulative, apologetic and anemic foreign policy of Barack Hussein as expressed today in the U.N.

Jenfidel on September 23, 2009 at 6:47 PM

Huck cooking squirrel in a popcorn maker is so far beyond main street, it’s out of town. Hunting season has begun. Go Sarah!

Kissmygrits on September 23, 2009 at 6:50 PM

This woman is a keeper folks. Name another leading politcal figure that talks about Reagan AND thatcher in such glowing terms. Name anotherfigure besides ron Paul that attacks the FEd. Name another that says government is not the solution but the problem?

waiting…….

that’s right if you want government out of your lives Palin is the last hope. And if she wins and governes like bush/obama I will know the country can never be free again

unseen on September 23, 2009 at 6:40 PM

+100

I know and understand. My brother was something of a Paul supporter, though my brother thinks he wasn’t serious about his foreign policy plans, either that or that the reality of the situation would force Paul to reconsider.

Esthier on September 23, 2009 at 6:42 PM

Thanks, Esthier. I have a lot of Paulian friends. I actually don’t think RP’s run was about winning, but rather more about educating the public about the Constitution and the Fed’s role in the economy. Now, if he’d won, I might have sh@t myself.

Firefly_76 on September 23, 2009 at 6:51 PM

This was a speech crafted towards an international audience. Palin is the only GOP name recognised outside the USA. Romney,Huckabee,Jindal etc totally unknown..as for Ron Paul..right out of a Dan Brown novel.People will see two contrasting images of the USA, one from O at the UN, the other from Palin in HK. For the international community this speech is the equivalent of her RNC speech for the US.
BTW before any Ron Paul says WTF cares about what the international community thinks once you mortgage your whole ranch to foreign bankers your creditors become very important

callingallcomets on September 23, 2009 at 6:52 PM

Does Wasilla even have a Main Street?

Speedwagon82 on September 23, 2009 at 6:55 PM

No, I did.
I try to be polite.

There’s nothing polite or impolite about the statement.

Though, when he said it, he meant it. He wouldn’t spend even five minutes in a thread like this trying to argue with someone he didn’t “think” about.

The remark I made about Palin’s detractors being anti-Christian and/or anti-abortion wasn’t aimed at you…and yet, you took it personally.
Hmmm.

Because I find it offensive. It’s not my fault you were unclear in who you were aiming it at, implying it’s the only reason people are against her while also implying I’m against her.

No one said that there was.

You leap at any criticism of her that doesn’t say just that.

Yeah, it is.
I have yet to read a substantive reason that says that Palin can’t be a strong, effective President.
And it’s been over a year….

Because you’ll accept no argument against her. You’re Cartman, trying to remember how you came up with the Fishsticks joke, and nothing Jimmy can tell you will convince you he wrote it.

You’ll think differently when America has to reap the whirlwind of the capitulative, apologetic and anemic foreign policy of Barack Hussein as expressed today in the U.N.

Jenfidel on September 23, 2009 at 6:47 PM

You misunderstood me, because that’s precisely my point. Obama’s weak, so weak that even Carter looks strong in comparison. So saying Palin looks presidential next to him isn’t saying much.

Carter looks presidential next to him.

Esthier on September 23, 2009 at 6:57 PM

lol think of a Ron Paul with a strong forgein policy. Palin knows what she is doing folks. she is getting the tea partiers, the strong hawks, and the Reagan democrates as well as the social consevatives. she will be an unstopable canidate come 2012.

unseen on September 23, 2009 at 6:57 PM

Now, if he’d won, I might have sh@t myself.

Firefly_76 on September 23, 2009 at 6:51 PM

I’m sure his supporters would have as well.

Paul himself might have had a heart attack.

I think you’re right on his motivation.

Esthier on September 23, 2009 at 6:58 PM

Let’s see, this is page four and I’ll throw in my comments on AP’s original interpretation.

“Are the Paulnuts going to cotton to her reputation for social conservatism, though?” – Huh? Paul’s a rock-ribbed anti-abortion type, Palin has voiced pro-life sentiments but did not attempt to legislate in that direction (or in much of any other direction beloved of the social-cons) as Governor.

For me it’s very simple – it’s the expensively-educated urban law-school graduates against everyone else.

JEM on September 23, 2009 at 6:59 PM

You misunderstood me, because that’s precisely my point. Obama’s weak, so weak that even Carter looks strong in comparison. So saying Palin looks presidential next to him isn’t saying much.

Carter looks presidential next to him.

Esthier on September 23, 2009 at 6:57 PM

And you missed my point which is this: Sarah Palin gave the speech that the POTUS should have given to the U.N.
She looks and sounds the way an American President should and must, especially to a foreign audience.
Ogabe looks and sounds like an African despot–everything he wants is virtual anathema to what has made this country great.

Jenfidel on September 23, 2009 at 7:01 PM

She looks and sounds the way an American President should and must, especially to a foreign audience.

Jenfidel on September 23, 2009 at 7:01 PM

So, as you and a few others have repeatedly expressed without knowing it…you’re pushing an image, rather than a person.

That’s what they did with Obama.

MadisonConservative on September 23, 2009 at 7:04 PM

Because I find it offensive. It’s not my fault you were unclear in who you were aiming it at, implying it’s the only reason people are against her while also implying I’m against her.

No, you’re much more insidious: you imply that you *might* be for her, only if she’ll perform a long laundry list of qualifying tasks that you specify.

You leap at any criticism of her that doesn’t say just that.

No, I leap at any specious criticism, which yours is.

Because you’ll accept no argument against her. You’re Cartman, trying to remember how you came up with the Fishsticks joke, and nothing Jimmy can tell you will convince you he wrote it.
Esthier on September 23, 2009 at 6:57 PM

I draw the line at Southpark analogies for purposes of serious argument.
Speaking of arguments, you didn’t make one.

Our country is imperiled.
If it takes “blind loyalty” (as you and AP would have it) to Sarah Palin as our candidate in 2012 to save our great republic, I’ll gladly take that rap.

Jenfidel on September 23, 2009 at 7:08 PM

And you missed my point which is this: Sarah Palin gave the speech that the POTUS should have given to the U.N.

No, I didn’t. Though I disagree, not because of her style or even the substance but rather the topic. There are more pressing things for the UN right now than the American economy.

She looks and sounds the way an American President should and must, especially to a foreign audience.

The same ones that loved Obama in his world tour? Personally, I don’t care how foreign audiences view our presidents so long as their leaders respect them.

Ogabe looks and sounds like an African despot–everything he wants is virtual anathema to what has made this country great.

Jenfidel on September 23, 2009 at 7:01 PM

African? I don’t know.

Esthier on September 23, 2009 at 7:09 PM

MadisonConservative – please explain how that was not true, say, of Ronald Reagan.

The media sold the Axelrod-packaged version of Obama, spun from whole cloth and with his history carefully scrubbed, to the US public and after eight years of the Mumbler-In-Chief the voters were desperate for a guy who could string three words together.

Palin’s a different story altoghether – we know everything there is to know about her past, for good or ill, and there’s nothing in what she’s saying that’s inconsistent with her track record.

JEM on September 23, 2009 at 7:10 PM

If it takes “blind loyalty” (as you and AP would have it) to Sarah Palin as our candidate in 2012 to save our great republic, I’ll gladly take that rap.

Jenfidel on September 23, 2009 at 7:08 PM

SHOCKA.

Earlier language talking about how “only the first woman president can undo the damage done by the first black president” didn’t indicate that attitude at all.

MadisonConservative on September 23, 2009 at 7:11 PM

So, as you and a few others have repeatedly expressed without knowing it…you’re pushing an image, rather than a person.

That’s what they did with Obama.

MadisonConservative on September 23, 2009 at 7:04 PM

Uh, no.
And you and I have had this discussion before.
Sarah Palin is a real person with a track record as Governor,as mayor of Wassilla and a member of the AK Oil & Gas Commission.
She also has medical records and high school and college grades that are open to the public–unlike Obama.
Thanks to the many ethics charges while she was AK Governor and also as the GOP VP candidate, she’s been pretty thoroughly vetted, watched and scrutinized.
Because there are a group of us who love her, also, like others love Obama doesn’t make her the least bit similar to him.
There is no “Sarah Palin” cult.

Jenfidel on September 23, 2009 at 7:12 PM

MadisonConservative – please explain how that was not true, say, of Ronald Reagan.

JEM on September 23, 2009 at 7:10 PM

Are you saying Ronald Reagan was only an image?

MadisonConservative on September 23, 2009 at 7:13 PM

SHOCKA.

Earlier language talking about how “only the first woman president can undo the damage done by the first black president” didn’t indicate that attitude at all.

MadisonConservative on September 23, 2009 at 7:11 PM

No real detective work is necessary here, because you hate any and all Christians and Jews and anyone else who believes in God.

Jenfidel on September 23, 2009 at 7:13 PM

Carter looks presidential next to him.

Esthier on September 23, 2009 at 6:57 PM

Harsh, very funny and true but harsh!.

Cindy Munford on September 23, 2009 at 7:15 PM

So she says she made a D on macroeconomics,

SilentWatcher on September 23, 2009 at 6:40 PM

Given the left leanings of academia, the D probably reflects reveling the professor’s Marxism as absolute foolishness.

darktood on September 23, 2009 at 7:16 PM

The same ones that loved Obama in his world tour? Personally, I don’t care how foreign audiences view our presidents so long as their leaders respect them.

Esthier on September 23, 2009 at 7:09 PM

They “loved” him on his world tour because they knows he’s an idiot and a weakling.
Seeing the great United States of America reduced to being represented by this whining appeaser of an empty suit is most of their wildest dreams come true because most other countries are jealous of us and want to see us brought low (They got their wish, huh?)
Of course they don’t respect him.
And his “world tour” (which one, BTW?) made me sick.

Jenfidel on September 23, 2009 at 7:17 PM

Because there are a group of us who love her, also, like others love Obama doesn’t make her the least bit similar to him.
There is no “Sarah Palin” cult.

Jenfidel on September 23, 2009 at 7:12 PM

If it takes “blind loyalty” (as you and AP would have it) to Sarah Palin as our candidate in 2012 to save our great republic, I’ll gladly take that rap.

Jenfidel on September 23, 2009 at 7:08 PM

Mmmmmkay.

Cultists of any stripe…left, right, or otherwise…are dangerous. It doesn’t matter if they’re for Obama, Palin, or Ron Paul. They’re not supporting someone based on logic or reason. They’re supporting them based on pure emotion. Then, when said people start making mistakes or poor decisions(which, of course, the cultists insist they never make), the followers either ignore or justify those actions. They refuse to question their leaders, which is the responsibility of all who vote others into office.

The Palinistas have been a good example on this site, as were a number of Mittens, Hucksters, McCainiacs, etc. This last election brought out a ton of people rallying around personalities, and attacking those who pointed out their flaws. Obama, however, was clearly the one who really showed off his Jim Jones-like acolytes.

When people keep talking about Sarah Palin as a “regular joe”, yet simultaneously paint her as infallible, we have a problem.

MadisonConservative on September 23, 2009 at 7:18 PM

No real detective work is necessary here, because you hate any and all Christians and Jews and anyone else who believes in God.

Jenfidel on September 23, 2009 at 7:13 PM

Stop lying about me, or f*** off.

MadisonConservative on September 23, 2009 at 7:19 PM

But Boris and Natasha are in the white house….

Fighton03 on September 23, 2009 at 4:35 PM

OT: Did you name your kids after Russians like Obama?

faraway on September 23, 2009 at 6:28 PM

LOL, no, we’re good Dago Wops. But there was a great russian with a version of his name.

Fighton03 on September 23, 2009 at 7:20 PM

Palin / Bachmann ’12.

DTogo on September 23, 2009 at 7:21 PM

No, I didn’t. Though I disagree, not because of her style or even the substance but rather the topic. There are more pressing things for the UN right now than the American economy.

Esthier on September 23, 2009 at 7:09 PM

Wanna bet?
The U.S. Economy is what drives the rest of the economies of the world.
Ask around.
If you think the U.N. needs to be yapping about “climate change”, discussing the U.S. disarming its nuclear arsenal or hear Qaddafi and Castro praise NObama because that’s “more important,” you must be high.
Or a serious Leftist Liberal.

Jenfidel on September 23, 2009 at 7:22 PM

It’s not the social conservatism that’s a problem necessarily. It’s the neoconism. If she pledges to end the fed, though, I might vote for here. That would end a lot (though not all) of the empire and domestic intrusion just by doing that, whether she realizes it or not. I have to hear more to be convinced she isn’t a puppet like Bush was though.

The Dean on September 23, 2009 at 7:23 PM

Stop lying about me, or f*** off.

MadisonConservative on September 23, 2009 at 7:19 PM

Not lying–you are hateful towards Christians.

Jenfidel on September 23, 2009 at 7:23 PM

Seriously, AP, “obligatory?” Do you really have to apologize for putting up a post on Sarah Palin?

After all the crap that’s been said all this time about her political career being over, her being a “quitter,” “just not ready,” “lightweight,” and the ever-condescending “she needs to go away, be quiet, and spend a few years studying,” we’re seeing once again that the Palin-bashers are all wet. Rather than admit they underestimated her, they lecture Palin supporters on being “Palin-cultists.”

It gets a little old.

If you’re concerned she might just get handed the nomination for 2012, I think you can relax. No one’s ever just given her anything. Unlike Obama, who was groomed and prepped for years by heavy-hitting politicians and the entire Chicago machine, Palin has actually had to make her own arguments and campaigns. Often, she had to run against others of her own party.

If she runs in 2012, she’s going to be hard to beat. I don’t think Romney would stand a chance, but it wouldn’t be because the nomination was just handed to her. It will be because Palin can win, and Romney will be basically another John McCain me-too-my-turn GOP candidate.

ThereGoesTheNeighborhood on September 23, 2009 at 7:24 PM

Stop lying about me, or f*** off.

MadisonConservative on September 23, 2009 at 7:19 PM

You lie to say that I hate Jews which is very false, so now this is how it feels going the other way.

The Dean on September 23, 2009 at 7:25 PM

After all the crap that’s been said all this time about her political career being over, her being a “quitter,” “just not ready,” “lightweight,” and the ever-condescending “she needs to go away, be quiet, and spend a few years studying,” we’re seeing once again that the Palin-bashers are all wet. Rather than admit they underestimated her, they lecture Palin supporters on being “Palin-cultists.”

It gets a little old.

ThereGoesTheNeighborhood on September 23, 2009 at 7:24 PM

+1 x 10^9

Geochelone on September 23, 2009 at 7:26 PM

They refuse to question their leaders, which is the responsibility of all who vote others into office.

No one was allowed to question NObama about anything: it was all dismissed as “racist” and still is to this day.

When people keep talking about Sarah Palin as a “regular joe”, yet simultaneously paint her as infallible, we have a problem.

MadisonConservative on September 23, 2009 at 7:18 PM

2 straw men for the price of 1: no one has made either contention.

Jenfidel on September 23, 2009 at 7:26 PM

Not lying–you are hateful towards Christians.

Jenfidel on September 23, 2009 at 7:23 PM

Oh, so now it’s no longer “Jews and anyone else who believes in God”? Huh.

As to Christians, my responses to people like LevStrauss, ronsfi, ThackerAgency, and others speak for themselves.

I quote Joe Wilson:

You lie!

MadisonConservative on September 23, 2009 at 7:28 PM

The Dean on September 23, 2009 at 7:25 PM

Don’t even.

MadisonConservative on September 23, 2009 at 7:29 PM

Oh, so now it’s no longer “Jews and anyone else who believes in God”? Huh.

MadisonConservative on September 23, 2009 at 7:28 PM

We all believe in the One God Yahweh and read the same Bible, so yes:
My comment still stands.

Jenfidel on September 23, 2009 at 7:29 PM

2 straw men for the price of 1: no one has made either contention.

Jenfidel on September 23, 2009 at 7:26 PM

Hmmm. Straw man fallacy on top of ad hominem?

ThereGoesTheNeighborhood on September 23, 2009 at 7:31 PM

Don’t even.

MadisonConservative on September 23, 2009 at 7:29 PM

That’s where I said I don’t hate them.

The Dean on September 23, 2009 at 7:32 PM

“We got into this mess because of government interference in the first place…. We’re not interested in government fixes, we’re interested in freedom. Lack of government wasn’t the problem. Government policies were the problem. The marketplace didn’t fail. It became exactly as common sense would expect it to. The government ordered the loosening of lending standards. The Federal Reserve kept interest rates low.

Palin hit the nail on the head. The artificial run up of housing prices was BECAUSE of the length of time the fed left low interest rates in place, along with the banks giving loans to people they couldn’t afford them and that is where this whole mess began.

njpat on September 23, 2009 at 7:33 PM

Reading some of the comments on the WSJ article I was struck dumb at the incredible display of projection. Every one of the criticisms of Palin were directly applicable to the disgraceful performance of Obama at the UN, from America bashing to economic ignorance to “blame it all on Bush” to singling out Israel for condemnation. The left is completely immersed in a fantasy that has no connection with the real world.

davo on September 23, 2009 at 7:34 PM

MadisonConservative on September 23, 2009 at 7:29 PM

In that you seem to take up the mantle for Jews, might out point out the difference between Sarah Palin’s support for Jews and the nation of Israel and Nobama’s willingness to sell out Jews and Israel?

Jenfidel on September 23, 2009 at 7:35 PM

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