Republican lawyers press for ACORN investigation; Update: Conyers wants probe of ACORN – and BigGov’t
posted at 4:45 pm on September 22, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
How badly does an organization receiving federal funds have to behave to get Congress to conduct a hearing into their activities? The Republican National Lawyers Association wants Rep. Jerrold Nadler (D-NY) to keep his word to investigate ACORN when he learns of “credible” allegations of wrongdoing. Having ACORN employees on video offering tax-evasion strategies and advice on hiding child-prostitution trafficking should be credible enough to warrant a look at the least, right?
A powerful group of GOP lawyers is demanding that government officials open an investigation into the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now to determine if any of their government funds have been used for illegal purposes.
And, they’re making those demands directly to House Chair of the Judiciary Subcommittee on the Constitution, Civil Rights and Civil Liberties, Rep. Jerrold Nalder, New York, who said he would consider holding a hearing about “if I ever hear any credible allegations” about the group. Now that a pair of activist filmmakers have exposed ACORN workers giving advice on how to obtain federal funds to run a brothel on video the Republican National Lawyers Association says the evidence is piled high enough to get a hearing. RNLA put a web video out Wednesday that replayed Mr. Nadler’s remarks made last March. …
Cleta Mitchell, co-chairman of RNLA, said Mr. Nadler isn’t taking the charges against ACORN seriously and he needs to hold a hearing to track down how their federal dollars have been spent. Republican critics of ACORN estimate the group has gotten close to $54 million since 1994.
“When you get federal money you get it for a special purpose and you are supposed to spend it for that purpose and certify at the end of each fiscal year it was spent for that purpose,” Mrs. Mitchell said. “I don’t see how they could have possibly made those representations truthfully to the federal government.”
Nadler has done his best to avoid fulfilling his promise to Rep. John Conyers (D-MI). On the House floor, he decried the Issa amendment barring funds from ACORN as an unconstitutional “bill of attainder,” which demonstrates Nadler’s ignorance as well as his obstinance. A bill of attainder creates a judgment of criminal or civil guilt by Congress rather than by a jury, making justice a political battle, which is why the founders were smart enough to proscribe the practice from the very start of the republic.
Congress has every right, however, to determine where it will and will not spend its money. ACORN is not entitled to federal funding, and Congress can halt funds to it at any time its members so desire. Such a finding does not carry a legal weight of conviction for violations, and indeed Congress doesn’t necessarily need to justify itself along those lines. In fact, it would be the height of irresponsibility to allow taxpayer funds to go to an organization that had been caught on tape in several locations and instances giving advice on how to commit crimes and cover them up, including evasion of the very taxes that allow ACORN’s funding in the first place.
If Nadler is so concerned about the idea of a “bill of attainder,” then he should start a Congressional inquiry — with subpoena power for both sides — into ACORN’s business practices.
Update: John Conyers has now announced that he wants a Congressional investigation of ACORN — and of O’Keefe and Giles:
Conyers and House Financial Services Chairman Barney Frank of Massachusetts asked the nonpartisan Congressional Research Service today to provide an analysis on several aspects of ACORN, including any current or previous criminal investigations into the group; a breakdown of any funding received by the group and any violations of the terms of that funding; a report on alleged improprieties in collecting voter registration forms and “the extent … that resulted in people being improperly placed on voting roles and actually attempting to vote,” and the group’s programs to provide housing opportunities.
It also asked for a report on private sting activities “in which individuals have reportedly visited ACORN offices, misrepresented their identities and proposed activities, surreptitiously videotaped resulting conversations with ACORN workers, and widely distributed them.”
The letter went onto say, “Conflicting allegations have been made about the propriety of these activities. Please research and report on the federal and state laws that could apply to such videotaping and distribution of conversations without the consent of all parties.”
Yes, because the big issue here is a journalistic strategy that has been in place for the last several decades, used by all of broadcast networks and most local stations, and never before questioned by Congress. Let’s put undercover jounalistic sting operations at the same law-enforcement priority as tax evasion, child prostitution, and human trafficking, by all means.










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Apparently it was a knee-jerk firing…
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Tom_Shipley on September 22, 2009 at 5:45 PM
And somehow that’s not ACORN’s fault? Did I miss something?
If the guy did nothing wrong, why fire him. And then blame someone else besides ACORN?
Really, dude. Get back on the meds.
lorien1973 on September 22, 2009 at 5:47 PM
Me thinks ACORN is shovel ready.
ACORN is facing a financial audit. Their records will cost 20 times as much to audit if a financial audit is required. They are insolvent and I suspect ready for checks to bounce. Don’t be surprised if 20% of their phone lines are cut in 30 days.
seven on September 22, 2009 at 5:47 PM
The Acorn worker followed the example set by Ted Kennedy.
ICBM on September 22, 2009 at 5:49 PM
When you have an incriminating video posted nationally on FoxNews, have Congress voting to defund your organization, it puts a lot of pressure to cut ties with anyone who may be involved in sketchy behavior.
Yes, I don’t think they should have fired him. But, to their credit, it looks like they are reexamining the case.
I see that you guys on here aren’t so rational.
Tom_Shipley on September 22, 2009 at 5:53 PM
Someone take the shovel away from this dude before he buries himself.
Knucklehead on September 22, 2009 at 5:54 PM
So now it’s Fox News’ problem that ACORN fired a guy without figuring out what happened?
Really?
lorien1973 on September 22, 2009 at 5:56 PM
Then again, I think all companies should keep employees who condone and rationalize illegal behavior, then a few days later say “hey, that’s not right.”
Those are the quick thinkers and morally grounded people you want as the face of your organization.
lorien1973 on September 22, 2009 at 5:57 PM
Rubes can never reach your leftie elitist level of rationale. You won.
Schadenfreude on September 22, 2009 at 5:57 PM
Yeah, I blame the two twits who filmed this — “as a latino man, I’d like your advice on how to best smuggle in these girls” — then sent to FoxNews not know anything beside what they filmed. By the time FoxNews aired this, the guy had contacted the police about the encounter and then found out that these guys set him up. The guy did the right thing and ends up getting fired thanks to a political vendetta. “Citizen journalism” at its finest.
Tom_Shipley on September 22, 2009 at 5:58 PM
Now we have evidence that lefties are crazy.
Schadenfreude on September 22, 2009 at 6:00 PM
The race baiting angle died , remember white woman?
the_nile on September 22, 2009 at 6:00 PM
I do hear that abused spouse syndrome is tough to overcome. Hope your therapy goes well.
lorien1973 on September 22, 2009 at 6:01 PM
“Turn out that light!”
-John Conyers, D-MI
Blacksmith on September 22, 2009 at 6:05 PM
Hey dingbat, the video tapes were released by Andrew Breitbart. Get your facts straight.
Oh yeah, did ever hear about the “Food Lion” story and all of those undercover videos? What was that NBC, ABC or CBS who did those?
Knucklehead on September 22, 2009 at 6:07 PM
I guess it’s time to look into ACORN’s firing practices as well.
forest on September 22, 2009 at 6:08 PM
Am I misreading things, or are the Democrats digging themselves a very deep hole in districts that don’t lean left?
ProfessorMiao on September 22, 2009 at 6:09 PM
How do we know he actally called his brother in law when this happened and not last week when he got exposed? To trust anything this bunch says is stupid…
CCRWM on September 22, 2009 at 6:09 PM
Tom_Shipley = basket case
darwin on September 22, 2009 at 6:10 PM
They may be digging themselves a hole in districts that lean left too, but I think at least Pelosi and Rangel are safe.
forest on September 22, 2009 at 6:11 PM
Not as hard as sh*t-for-brains syndrome. Good luck with that.
Tom_Shipley on September 22, 2009 at 6:11 PM
There are at least two more ACORN tapes that have yet to be released – has any other ACORN staffer called the police?
BuckNutty on September 22, 2009 at 6:12 PM
Nadler can be bought for the price of a free meal… Schedule the hearings! ACORN first!
Khun Joe on September 22, 2009 at 6:15 PM
What you miss stating is that he was trying to get in on the action…the fact he reported it, after they had refused him, makes him an “okay” employee?
That is laughable…besides, he is just one of many…
So what is wrong with having an outside auditor, audit the books of an organization that is receiving public funds?
I still haven’t seen a reasonable answer as to why that shouldn’t be done.
right2bright on September 22, 2009 at 6:15 PM
Goody! MORE PUDDING!
Khun Joe on September 22, 2009 at 6:16 PM
Ouch.
So you’re in favor of not firing people who would actively support child prositution and slavery? Um yeah, it’s the other guy who’s got “sh*t-for-brains”. Keep digging.
Scrappy on September 22, 2009 at 6:17 PM
Oh , so thats what you got, sorry.
the_nile on September 22, 2009 at 6:21 PM
This big ass pot of corruption is starting to boil over. Watch who’s hands try to turn the stove off.
Star20 on September 22, 2009 at 6:22 PM
When did they refuse him?
How is reporting this couple to the authorities “supporting” them?
Tom_Shipley on September 22, 2009 at 6:23 PM
They called the police to cover their butts dingbat. They realized they were busted and took pre-emptive action.
OT- None of you liberal idiots will answer….why do you need big government to take care of you ? Are you still a child? You think like a child that is obvious. Ooops answered my own question.
CWforFreedom on September 22, 2009 at 6:23 PM
Tom… you are bought and paid for. Bet you think you actually have an original thought. You are completely laughable. The problem with ACORN is systemic and you get stuck on one story among many. TOOL
CWforFreedom on September 22, 2009 at 6:25 PM
How is saying that he has connections in Mexico that will help them with slave trafficing not “supporting” them?
Scrappy on September 22, 2009 at 6:27 PM
And your evidence of this is where?
Tom_Shipley on September 22, 2009 at 6:27 PM
It is obvious. Watch the tape . They were serious about assisting.
I have as much proof as you do
Also…answer the question WHY DO YOU NEED THE government to take care of you??
CWforFreedom on September 22, 2009 at 6:28 PM
Tom … you do know you are bought and paid for right? would you at least be honest and admit it?
CWforFreedom on September 22, 2009 at 6:29 PM
Let’s just cut to the chase: get some legitimate, hardworking investigators and put them on the cases of Osama Obama, Conyers, Frank and Soros.
Cut the heads off and the snakes die.
MrScribbler on September 22, 2009 at 6:30 PM
Tom….and all the other cases? Laughable.
CWforFreedom on September 22, 2009 at 6:30 PM
Ever heard the adage “actions speak louder than words?” So, he TELLS them he can help them smuggle these teens in, then contacts the police to report possible human trafficking…
you’re going to tell me with a straight face that this guy was supporting the actions of these two?
Tom_Shipley on September 22, 2009 at 6:30 PM
Lefty trolls are something. Completely and utterly taken in by the corruption of their side. They go along thinking they will get the crumbs.
CWforFreedom on September 22, 2009 at 6:31 PM
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Watch the video
Again why do you need government to take care of you?
CWforFreedom on September 22, 2009 at 6:32 PM
If he was serious about assisting, why did he contact law enforcement about them that same day?
And, to be more specific, where in the tape do the couple refuse his attempt to help him?
Tom_Shipley on September 22, 2009 at 6:32 PM
Tom are you a boy or a man?
CWforFreedom on September 22, 2009 at 6:33 PM
You’re really not very smart, are you?
Tom_Shipley on September 22, 2009 at 6:33 PM
Man. Where in the video do they refuse his offer to help?
Tom_Shipley on September 22, 2009 at 6:34 PM
So the ACORN employee told them he would not help?
Gotcha
Funny you are fixated when it is obvious this is a big problem with ACORN….. you are truly bought. Why cannot you admit it. Just say it– you will defend any ugliness of the left. Your check depends on it…..again why do you think you have to have the government take care of you? Boy or man? Your avoidance of the hard questions is TELLING
CWforFreedom on September 22, 2009 at 6:34 PM
Tom you are not a man
If you were you would act like one
CWforFreedom on September 22, 2009 at 6:35 PM
tom— so Mr. Acorn told the couple that what they wanted to do was illegal right?
CWforFreedom on September 22, 2009 at 6:36 PM
Yep, good one. Save your “straight face” crap for when you’re ready to be serious about how these sting operations have shown serious systemic problems within Acorn. Until then, I’ll sit here with my straight face and watch you wriggle around some paper thin technicallities in opposition to the blatanly obvious truth.
Your really reaching.
Scrappy on September 22, 2009 at 6:36 PM
Are you really that clueless about how a sting operation works?
Scrappy on September 22, 2009 at 6:37 PM
He found one case that he thinks he can put all his eggs in. Laughable.
Tom’s a boy
Tomboy
CWforFreedom on September 22, 2009 at 6:37 PM
Tomboy=Clueless
Oh and bought
CWforFreedom on September 22, 2009 at 6:38 PM
CWforFreedom,
Since you’re so hung up on the idea of being a man… be a man and answer my question. You said the couple refused his help and that’s why he went to police. Where in the video did they refuse his help?
Tom_Shipley on September 22, 2009 at 6:38 PM
I know enough to know that if the subject of the sting operation reports the illegal activities to police after the sting operation, the guy was not assisting in illegal activity.
Tom_Shipley on September 22, 2009 at 6:40 PM
Let’s compromise. I’ll give in and say the guy was doing what you said and you agree that ACORN is a corrupt organization that needs to be dissolved if democracy is to continue in this country.
Deal?
darwin on September 22, 2009 at 6:44 PM
Tomboy is dishonest and bought
Don’t count on it
Not that you would
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Tom they guy changed his mind once he realized how obvious it was. Go talk to a few cops. It is not uncommon for crooks to lie when they realize they are busted . you are naive little boy.
CWforFreedom on September 22, 2009 at 6:47 PM
Question: when will congressional investigations begin of NBC’s To Catch A Predator?
Erich66 on September 22, 2009 at 6:48 PM
Tom, prove to me that this senerio is not as plausible as your explination for why he would call the cops.
A while after having the conversation with this couple he came to think that it was most probably a sting (after all, after a little reflection, who would believe that kid was a pimp?) And with the suspicion that he had just been duped his first inclination is to cover his ass by calling the cops.
You have no more evidence to prove your assumed motive than anyone has for this potential motive. The only actual evidence (the video tape) shows explicit cooperation on his part. There are multiple motivations for making the call to the police that have been put forward. And so far I have not seen any evidence to support your assumption any more than any of the others. Please, make your case.
Scrappy on September 22, 2009 at 6:50 PM
Somebody call Chris Wallace and tell him we found another whiner…boohoo…
lovingmyUSA on September 22, 2009 at 6:50 PM
Tom_Shipley, you are an idiot… the guy didn’t call the cops… he called his cousin… who happened to be a detective… two days later… give me a break…
ninjapirate on September 22, 2009 at 6:51 PM
Hell no. ACORN has over 400,000 members and what’s lost in focusing on a tiny fraction of the work that they do is the good they do in aiding those who live in poor, inner-city communities.
Those workers in Maryland absolutely should have been fired for the advice they gave, if they didn’t report their exchange to authorities.
As far as election fraud allegations go, those kinda fizzled out didn’t they? You know why? There was no organized fraud. What happened were cases of people getting paid for meeting quotas, so they falsely inflated their registration lists. Those people were report to authorities BY ACORN and fired.
Lastly, who do you suggest “dissolves” ACORN?
Tom_Shipley on September 22, 2009 at 6:52 PM
“Congressional hearings” are a means Congressmen can use to grind their opponents down with expense, wasted time, fatigue, and public humiliation. The reasons given for Congressional committee hearings, and for the existence of Congressional committees themselves, pertain to the enormous size and scope of the “federal” government. As long as the Americans persist in their corrupted, no longer federal orders, reasons for Congressional committees and hearings will always be found, the Congress will remain divided into fiefs, and the committee chairmen will continue to use their fiefdom and hearings to intimidate their opponents and grind them into submission.
I will keep saying, as best I can, that it seems the Americans must restore federal orders or be consumed by their growing disorders. And despite the danger to me and the things I love, if the Americans persist in their disorders and do not restore their federal constitution, I’ll be glad when they put an end to their public posturing and break out their knives in earnest.
Kralizec on September 22, 2009 at 6:53 PM
CWforFreedom on September 22, 2009 at 6:47 PM
So you admit you were just making shit up? Not surprising.
Tom_Shipley on September 22, 2009 at 6:53 PM
Amusing.
So to the Left, investigating an organization receiving federal funds is at least as suspect as running a child prostitution ring. These people really are our betters…aren’t they?
18-1 on September 22, 2009 at 6:54 PM
Oh yeah, and don’t forget to include the detail about why it took him two days to call “the authorities” (aka his cousins) rather than the moment the couple he obviously wasn’t interested in helping walked out the door.
Scrappy on September 22, 2009 at 6:58 PM
Look dork, the internet is a wonderful thing. All it takes is a few minutes of your time, and some courage … to find exactly what ACORN is being charged with and where in regards to voter fraud. It’s not just “cases of people getting paid for meeting quotas”.
Courage Tom, get some and face the facts. Learn how to use the internet to your advantage and stop repeating what you read at leftist/progressive/communist/Marxist/democrat/Obama websites.
Lastly, ACORN will “dissolve” itself if a true investigation were run. All the leadership and management would be in jail.
darwin on September 22, 2009 at 7:01 PM
Here you go Tom …
The Complete Guide to ACORN Voter Fraud
darwin on September 22, 2009 at 7:03 PM
Scrappy on September 22, 2009 at 6:58 PM
Didn’t take him two days to call his cousin. He cousin contacted the human trafficking official two days later. It seems he contacted his cousin right away.
And yes, it’s possible that this guy was really trying to help these people out, then changed his mind and reported them. But, I don’t know. This guy (who has a brother in law enforcement) just happens to have contacts in Tijijuana that would help out in human trafficking? I think it’s a little more believable that he was just going along with them while there were there, then contacted authorities.
Tom_Shipley on September 22, 2009 at 7:03 PM
It was my opinion based on dealing with people like them
You know the ACORN guy shipleyed his pants when the couple left and realized he had to cover his arse.
Again you say you are a man….which your words do not support…then why do you need the government to take care of you?
CWforFreedom on September 22, 2009 at 7:04 PM
Tom admit you are bought and paid for…do it…you will feel liberated
CWforFreedom on September 22, 2009 at 7:05 PM
Seems maybe you were making stuff up…hmmm
Hypocrite
CWforFreedom on September 22, 2009 at 7:06 PM
Well, as other people here have said, they think other senerios are “more believeable”. What’s to make your version more accurate?
Scrappy on September 22, 2009 at 7:08 PM
darwin,
95% of the complaints listed there are exactly what I’m talking about… fraudulent or duplicate voter registration forms, which have been shown to be the work of contract workers trying to pad their stats. There’s been no evidence of any organized election fraud perpetrated by ACORN. In fact, in most cases ACORN itself caught and reported these irregularities.
Tom_Shipley on September 22, 2009 at 7:09 PM
It seems you are taking another of your assumptions as truth. What we know, is that there is a two day lag there. you explination is no more valid than those you argue against.
Scrappy on September 22, 2009 at 7:10 PM
CWforFreedom on September 22, 2009 at 7:06 PM
You said that the guy only reported them to the police after they refused his help, yet the video does not show them refusing his help and in fact clearly has the guy saying “talk to you soon” at the end of it.
I never made up anything up, I’ve only stated facts as shown by the video and police reports. You saying the couple refused his help qualifies as “making stuff up.” Come on, be a man, admit it.
Tom_Shipley on September 22, 2009 at 7:12 PM
I guess congress is going to investigate ABC for their “To
Catch a Predator” series. They did the same thing..but I guess it is alright to liberals to catch pedophiles – but not anyone on the right. I hope they don’t get away with yet again, another double standard.
marnes on September 22, 2009 at 7:12 PM
I’m sorry Tom. You have been successfully propagandized and indoctrinated by your Marxist masters.
You longer think for yourself and you have completely stopped believeing your own eyes and ears.
So sad. On the bright side, you’ll probably get preferential treatment under Obama DeathCare. Drones and Obamabots will get priority. They’ll just let the rest of us die.
darwin on September 22, 2009 at 7:13 PM
Hmmm
It makes more sense to believe what they said on the front side of the episode. Of course one needs to be logical for that to happen.
CWforFreedom on September 22, 2009 at 7:13 PM
I’m sure that Gary Studds would vote for that Bill of Attainder.
18-1 on September 22, 2009 at 7:13 PM
You just know Conyer’s investigation is going to find ACORN Innocent and it’s going to find the two film makers guilty of Murder, War Crimes and styling Blago’s hair.
When the people investigating are getting kickbacks from said group how ca we trust them, i.e. Richardson’s “Investigation”
Rbastid on September 22, 2009 at 7:14 PM
I never said the faux pimp and faux ho refused his assistance….
the ACORN guy never said no. that is a fact
CWforFreedom on September 22, 2009 at 7:16 PM
darwin on September 22, 2009 at 7:13 PM
Think for yourself and really look into the ACORN voter fraud charges. You’ll see what I state is correct.
Tom_Shipley on September 22, 2009 at 7:16 PM
So this guy was fired? Will he sue ACORN there TommyBoy?
CWforFreedom on September 22, 2009 at 7:17 PM
Wow what a surprise ….ACORN fires them when they are busted all over the place then pretends it is not systemic.
They had NO choice but to fire them. You know the money train thing. It speaks loudly.
CWforFreedom on September 22, 2009 at 7:18 PM
Funny how facts get in the way:
CWforFreedom on September 22, 2009 at 7:19 PM
I must have misread what you had written earlier. Sorry for the confusion.
Tom_Shipley on September 22, 2009 at 7:22 PM
CWforFreedom on September 22, 2009 at 7:19 PM
What about every other case of fraud listed…
Tom_Shipley on September 22, 2009 at 7:22 PM
It just gets uglier for the troll
CWforFreedom on September 22, 2009 at 7:22 PM
I love Tom_Shipley here. Ya know, this is a curious thing to throw your reputation away on. Here’s Tom’s basic argument: “Look, those two people tricked poor innocent ACORN people and got them fired. How do I know they are innocent? Because one out of the many people on those tapes actually suggested to a cousin that he may have been had! And it’s illogical anyway that this guy would have had connections in Tijuana to help with smuggling! It’s almost as ridiculous an idea as fellow ACORN officials actively assisting people to set up a prostitution ring!”
Look, Tom–why the heck should we give this guy the benefit of the doubt? ACORN employees across the nation have shown that they are more than happy to enslave Hispanic underage girls into prostitution–why should this guy be any different?
Even if you are correct, and this guy somehow managed to redeem himself–how on earth does that mean we shouldn’t investigate ACORN as a whole? After all, we’ve seen Los Angeles, Baltimore, New York, etc. Those offices are redeemed solely by virtue of this guys 2 day repentance process?
Why are you choosing ACORN as the hill on which to throw away any credibility you may have, Tom? But I got to give you credit–it takes balls to argue this strenuously that child sex prostitution is something that we shouldn’t investigate and instead we should blame the reporters.
Do you also blame the reporters who get people fired from the local pizza parlor when they spit on your pizza?
Vanceone on September 22, 2009 at 7:24 PM
VANCE +1
CWforFreedom on September 22, 2009 at 7:25 PM
Yeah..why not? We give Miranda rights to terrorists.
Itchee Dryback on September 22, 2009 at 7:28 PM
CWforFreedom on September 22, 2009 at 7:22 PM
Yes, exactly. Those are all cases of voter registration fraud perpetrated by ACORN employees trying to pad their registration stats. One person registered the entire Dallas Cowboy roster. Others filled in cartoon characters names. This wasn’t an attempt by ACORN to illegally register people to try and sway the vote, it was an attempt by some of its workers to get paid for not actually doing work. In many of these cases, ACORN flagged suspicious entries but turned them over to the state because the law required them to.
Tom_Shipley on September 22, 2009 at 7:32 PM
Interesting :
We have the actions of ACORN
We have a government that reserves the right for rendition
They continue to hold those found on the battlefields without charge
They tell Insurance companies that they do not have free speech
They collect our information off of Government websites
The President tells those on the right to essentially shut up
Democrat leaders call protesters a mob
Yet….. not a word of dissent from the Troll
CWforFreedom on September 22, 2009 at 7:33 PM
Tom still no answer
Why do you as a “man” (your word not mine) feel the need to be cared for by big brother? Did your dad not teach you to take care of yourself? Your attitude is destructive. No wonder ACORN has an endless supply of clients.
CWforFreedom on September 22, 2009 at 7:35 PM
I’ll expand on my question to our child sex defending troll here:
Let’s change this to a national Pizza chain. Our intrepid reporters dress up, grab a hidden camera, and walk into to Bigstuff Pizza in Baltimore and ask the local store manager to spit on every pizza that is going to a Hispanic couple. The guy enthusiastically agrees. Our reporters then show the same thing in New York. In Los Angeles. And in San Diego, the guy there says he can bring in all the crew they want to spit on those pizzas. Now, a couple of days later, the guy in San Diego says to himself, “hmm. Maybe that wasn’t the greatest idea. I’ll ask cousin george.” And george freaks out and reports it.
Now, National BigStuff Pizza headquarters starts firing everyone. Your position, Tom, is that the reporters here are responsible for all of this unemployment, right? That BigStuff Pizza doesn’t have any institutional problems with people spitting on pizzas, at least they say they don’t. And you are more than willing to take them at their word, and defend the entire organization simply because San Diego guy called cousin George for some advice.
That’s your argument, Tom. Now, let’s hang the reporters, and enjoy our spit-upon pizza.
Vanceone on September 22, 2009 at 7:36 PM
Yep TomBoy it is all just a coincidence:
CWforFreedom on September 22, 2009 at 7:36 PM
Hmmm
http://www.rottenacorn.com/activityMap.html
CWforFreedom on September 22, 2009 at 7:37 PM
CWforFreedom on September 22, 2009 at 7:35 PM
Listen fuckwad, don’t mention my family. And if you do, have the balls to do it to my face so I can show you how much of a man i in fact am. And yes, that’s a threat to your physical well being.
second, why do you need the government to take care of you? or are you against paying taxes for the police, FBI and CIA?
Tom_Shipley on September 22, 2009 at 7:41 PM
SanDiegoGuy shipleyed his pants then called George.
The devil is in the details.
See my last link…it is systemic. To deny it takes complete and utter dishonesty or stupidity. That or a government check and a block of cheese.
CWforFreedom on September 22, 2009 at 7:42 PM
Laughable .
Calm down boy. Oh so you don’t believe in welfare and socialism gotcha.
Oh and by the way just for the record….yes you did threaten me. I will call my friends in law enforcement. When you hear the sirens remember you screwed up.
CWforFreedom on September 22, 2009 at 7:44 PM
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