Oh my: One quarter of Americans could be non-religious in 20 years
posted at 9:04 pm on September 22, 2009 by Allahpundit
In 1990, we were eight percent of the population; today we’re 15 percent and climbing. The good news? We’re taking over. The bad news? It’s, er, not quite clear who “we” are.
American religious nones tend to be religious skeptics as opposed to outright atheists. Fewer than ten percent of those identifying with no religious tradition call themselves atheists or hold atheistic beliefs, according to the new study.
“American nones are kind of agnostic and deistic, so it’s a very American kind of skepticism,” says Barry Kosmin, director of Trinity’s Institute for the Study of Secularism in Society and Culture. “It’s a kind of religious indifference that’s not hostile to religion the way they are in France. Franklin and Jefferson would have recognized these people.”
Only seven percent of the non-religious are atheist — versus 27 percent who believe in a “personal god”? Dude, weak:

What kind of “non-religious” person believes in a personal god, anyway? This kind, I guess.
There are, of course, political implications here:
Secular voters once constituted an important part of the GOP coalition, but fewer than 10 percent of religious nones under age 30 are Republican. “Republican nones are getting older and continue to show an affinity to the GOP,” says Juhen Navarro-Rivera, a Trinity College research fellow who helped compile the new report. “But they’re not making new Republican nones.”
Navarro-Rivera is still running the numbers, but his hunch is that the new generation of religious nones has been scared away from the Republican Party because of its ties to the Christian right. Does the GOP continue to embrace that movement or move more to the middle? Call it the Sarah Palin option versus the John McCain option. (Though opposition to healthcare reform, it should be noted, is helping bring the two camps together.)
Here’s a graphic breakdown of the partisan split. Note how much wider the gap is among “nones” since 1990: From a 27/21 Democratic advantage to 34/13 now.

No surprise either to find that “nones” are already at or above 20 percent on the west coast and in the northeast, where the GOP’s collapsed over the past 10 years:

As fascinating and portentous as all this is, the only issue I can think of where religious affiliation might strongly drive the partisan reaction is teaching evolution in schools. Behold:

That’s a staggering divide, with a majority among all U.S. adults saying evolution probably or definitely didn’t happen versus a huge majority among “nones” saying that it probably or definitely did. Exit question: Imagine an America 100 years from now that’s majority non-religious. Imagine it.










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Sign of the times
FontanaConservative on September 22, 2009 at 9:05 PM
So more people are joining the faith of Atheism?
Sounds religious to me.
therightscoop on September 22, 2009 at 9:05 PM
finally
about time
blatantblue on September 22, 2009 at 9:05 PM
Franklin and Jefferson would definitely recognize it. There’s always been a bit of ambivalence in our society regarding this issue.
AnninCA on September 22, 2009 at 9:06 PM
Yawn.
Cylor on September 22, 2009 at 9:07 PM
So does this mean the Muslims won’t take over? Maybe that is good news after all. But at this point I think maybe a little premature.
MikeA on September 22, 2009 at 9:07 PM
No comment.
MB4 on September 22, 2009 at 9:08 PM
Just open your window and see
RussiaEurope.Aristotle on September 22, 2009 at 9:08 PM
Wasn’t this found to be misleading? IIRC, by 2000 or so it was already at 13 or 14 percent…
ninjapirate on September 22, 2009 at 9:08 PM
sad
ted c on September 22, 2009 at 9:09 PM
If atheism is a faith, then not collecting stamps is a hobby.
doodleduh on September 22, 2009 at 9:09 PM
Yeah?? When it comes down to the naked truth, nones got nothing and everyone else has prayer. That’s gotta be something special, not having any solace.
ericdijon on September 22, 2009 at 9:10 PM
Let me repeat my earlier quote:
EPIC MATH FAIL
It appears this survey is merely saying “the old Bible thumprs are dying, so young atheists will become middle aged atheists!!!”
What it ignores, however, is the fact that “Young people” have always been the LEAST religious….. until they grow up.
There’s an incredibly high percentage of the young “agnostics” (not hard core atheists but agnostics) that piddle along, then once they marry and have kids – Bam! – they are going to church.
Wake me when something groundbreaking happens — america has always had waves of ‘nonbelief will take us over!!!’… even in the South, pre-Civil war, most people didnt believe in God or go to church until about 1830 during one of those ‘awakenings’.
Seems like we’re due for another great awakening.
church may not be ‘the place to go to see my friends when i stop working on the farm’, but as a SPIRITUAL fulfillment, the Church will be fine.
Or to put it another way, what do you think the ‘religiousity’ was of Arizona in 1880? Of the North Carolina Backcountry in the 1800s? Of Alaskans anytime before 1959?
Even boston in the american revolution was a supposed den of sin with ‘immorality’;
we’ll be fine. i’m sure we’ll have another awakening soon enough, and it will be led by a different sort of ‘preacher’
battleoflepanto1571 on September 22, 2009 at 9:10 PM
Holger on September 22, 2009 at 9:10 PM
It is if you post about it on your blog.
Ronnie on September 22, 2009 at 9:10 PM
Let us remember that liberalism is the new religion and that Obama is the Christ figure.
Really Right on September 22, 2009 at 9:10 PM
congrats, would you feel that way in a foxhole, fella?
sandlin71 on September 22, 2009 at 9:11 PM
Franklin and Jefferson (RINOs both) FTW!!1!
DaveS on September 22, 2009 at 9:11 PM
I tried being an atheist-but my faith wasn’t strong enough.
annoyinglittletwerp on September 22, 2009 at 9:12 PM
the faith of climate change is recruiting new members.
Pay your cap and tax tithe to the church of algore. He’s the new minister of the new god, the environment. Green buildings shall be thy new churches and those who spaketh skepticism on climate change will be excommunicated as heretics. Reason, logic and truth shall have no place in our new religion.
Proverbs 23:23
ted c on September 22, 2009 at 9:12 PM
don’t have to imagine it…just look in history when atheism prevails…the Terror in france…the Gulags in the soviet union..the killing fields in Cambodia…
right4life on September 22, 2009 at 9:12 PM
Doodle the new troll is here to entertain. Everyone say hi
CWforFreedom on September 22, 2009 at 9:12 PM
Don’t laugh. Here in Indiana, farmers have made millions of dollars in the not raising hogs business, and the not growing corn business. GRanted, that is only when the government gets involved, but they are involved in this whole No-God thing too.
MikeA on September 22, 2009 at 9:12 PM
we all have our concerns, but I think Obama should be the priority.
rob verdi on September 22, 2009 at 9:13 PM
AP still has not called? Keep trying. Don’t give up./
CWforFreedom on September 22, 2009 at 9:13 PM
Allah, you seem so typical of atheists. Why does it mean so much to you that others not believe in God? It’s kinda like peer pressure. No offense.
bloggless on September 22, 2009 at 9:14 PM
Isn’t 7 percent less than 8 percent? I think you’re losing ground, AP.
TexasDan on September 22, 2009 at 9:14 PM
+7
FontanaConservative on September 22, 2009 at 9:14 PM
For all you Atheist demonizers.
The majority of non-religious are Deists.
Holger on September 22, 2009 at 9:15 PM
What about the religion that believes in the earth mother and that men are satan’s beasts poisoning her with CO2?
I’d wager a whole lot more than 20% are non-religious. When you ask if they believe in God and they respond, “Um, yeah I guess” they aren’t religious.
Also, don’t lump all of us in with Bill Maher. Not all of us un-religious types hate religion.
jhffmn on September 22, 2009 at 9:15 PM
He’s a devout atheist.
Ronnie on September 22, 2009 at 9:15 PM
If you are cheering this on then you are most definitely not a true conservative. Why? Because the less christian a nation becomes the more socialist it becomes. If it becomes full-blown atheist it becomes communist.
DethMetalCookieMonst on September 22, 2009 at 9:15 PM
Have never understood the seeming desire of many atheists to spread their lack of faith.
Would think they’d be more “live and let live.”
Red Cloud on September 22, 2009 at 9:16 PM
Raise your hand if you think a good chunk of these “non religious” will be sitting in church every sunday after:
A)marriage
B)having kids
C)getting older
D)personal conversions
My guess is about 33-40% of said “lifer agnostics” will come into the fold.
It happens.
Look at american history.
battleoflepanto1571 on September 22, 2009 at 9:16 PM
Well, when you have faith which remembers little of it’s roots and is awash in relativism, it makes sense that, like I did, people leave Christianity and/or nonspecific religion.
Read Francis Schaeffer. Honest answers for honest questions.
Diane on September 22, 2009 at 9:16 PM
Why is it that some atheists push their non- belief as enthusiastically as any missionary?
RedRedRice on September 22, 2009 at 9:16 PM
What’s the holdup? 9/11 should have taught us what religion is all about.
hicsuget on September 22, 2009 at 9:16 PM
His bible is the phone book.
bloggless on September 22, 2009 at 9:17 PM
All common sense begins with the belief in God. Our Modern world didn’t get it, and we ended up with the bloodiest century in history. Our post-modern world still doesn’t get it, and we will end up with the end of man-kind as we know it. Read some G.K. Chesterton Allah and Get a brain. Your morals have no point of reference, therefore they mean nothing.
jonnyshocko on September 22, 2009 at 9:17 PM
73% of atheists said “Oh my God!” when they first saw the 911 footage.
Bishop on September 22, 2009 at 9:17 PM
Public school education FTW.
Also, don’t forget: the God of the Old Testament is “angry.”
TexasDan on September 22, 2009 at 9:17 PM
I see..in my mind’s eye…a severe downturn in sales of Nativity set camels.
Gymkata on September 22, 2009 at 9:17 PM
And notice that those are where liberals tend to live. Are you sure you want to brag about that?
DethMetalCookieMonst on September 22, 2009 at 9:17 PM
They are called evangelathiests.
bloggless on September 22, 2009 at 9:17 PM
What IS religion all about?
Bishop on September 22, 2009 at 9:18 PM
Allah believes in God. He just doesn’t want to. He is one of those dime store athiests that thinks if he can get enough other people to tell him they don’t believe in God, it will be OK for him not to believe in God too. Sad, really, because it don’t work that way. Even if he gets all of us to say that we don’t believe in God, he will still have his own belief down in his core and it will still eat away at him.
MikeA on September 22, 2009 at 9:18 PM
Atheism is on the rise, but it will never “take over.” Because it’s too depressing, too wimpy, and doesn’t have core beliefs to unify all the God deniers.
As for the too wimpy reason, if an Islamist puts pressure on you guys, you’ll fold like a used newspaper. You’ll think, ‘Uh, all they want us to do is praise a non-existant god, we’ll do it to keep our heads.
Then they’ll own you.
Skidd on September 22, 2009 at 9:18 PM
Yes sportsfans … man came to religion shortly after he gained capacity for sentient thought – hundreds of thousands of years ago. And since that time, man has been shackled to religion. Thankfully WE NOW HAVE THE SMARTEST PEOPLE EVER walking this planet. People who KNOW THEIR PAST and understand their own mortal context in human history. Did I say that the people alive today are the MOST ENLIGHTENED that have ever walked this planet?
And because of this enlightenment – religion … the philosophy that has guided human interaction for hundreds of thousands of years … the notion of God which has caused countless wars …
Will now be eliminated. It will not come back. Religion will be erased from this planet – now, and forever. Forget those religious zealots in the middle east who are willing to die for their God – THEY WILL BE CONQUERED BY THE NOME HORDES OF ATHEISM!
FOREVER.
BANK ON IT.
(Does that work for you? Nah … me neither. But let’s let Allah have his dream. :D )
HondaV65 on September 22, 2009 at 9:18 PM
I hope your not one of those guys that think all religions are the same. Just don’t forget the /sarc tag
FontanaConservative on September 22, 2009 at 9:19 PM
ALLAH! COME OUT! WE WANT TO TALK TO YOU!!!!
bloggless on September 22, 2009 at 9:19 PM
Or because my fiance believes in god and I will go to church with her on holidays as long as your god doesn’t strike me with lighting or whatever.
jhffmn on September 22, 2009 at 9:19 PM
I’m imagining it and seeing taxes being so rediculously high because there are so few christian organizations left to help the homeless/sick/etc.
Again, people who are cheering this on, how can you call yourselves true fiscal conservatives?
DethMetalCookieMonst on September 22, 2009 at 9:19 PM
What kind of moron defines himself according to what he doesn’t believe?
Are you a registered non-Democrat too?
Ronnie on September 22, 2009 at 9:19 PM
I must be part of the remaining 27%. What I said isn’t fit for print.
ElectricPhase on September 22, 2009 at 9:20 PM
If Will Farrell is an athiest, I am not.
bloggless on September 22, 2009 at 9:20 PM
Is it safe to come in?………….Allah…….Allah are you o.k?
ThePrez on September 22, 2009 at 9:20 PM
my church sent disaster kits and clothing and money and CANNED SOUP to 9/11 families after 9/11. what were we all about>?
battleoflepanto1571 on September 22, 2009 at 9:21 PM
What are you going to do when you have kids? Encourage them to do the same as you? I smell trouble ahead.
bloggless on September 22, 2009 at 9:22 PM
Stupid is as stupid does
Likely you rant at racism but making such general points about religion is a — ok.
Religion has done much good and the wars of the non-religious have caused far more death.
Interesting factoid….. the Catholic Church is the largest provider of AIDS hospice care.
CWforFreedom on September 22, 2009 at 9:22 PM
If you are cheering this on, you are more than likely in line with the Key Players of the American Revolution as well as a lot of the Enlightenment Thinkers.
Holger on September 22, 2009 at 9:22 PM
The faith of Christians is correlated to the level of persecution they suffer. The more persecution the more pure the faith. I don’t hope for persecution but when it comes it has a refining effect on the church.
Mojave Mark on September 22, 2009 at 9:22 PM
If you were a blogger and you constantly made posts about how you don’t collect stamps then it would be a hobby. AP feels compelled to do his atheist missionary work no matter how tiresome it becomes. Seems like a religion to me.
NotCoach on September 22, 2009 at 9:22 PM
Man. Reconciling AP’s typically impressive intelligence with his inability to see the existence of something as obvious as a God is super challenging for me.
But alas, it’s probably not worth the time.
It’s kinda like trying to reconcile Obama’s rise in the political world with, um, pretty much everything about him.
Brain. Is. Hurting. Gah!!
rightheaded on September 22, 2009 at 9:23 PM
After the “One”, we are going to need something…?
d1carter on September 22, 2009 at 9:23 PM
I don’t see why everyone is making a big deal about this. Personally, I’m an agnostic, and I have no major issues with people who believe any one of the world’s multitude of gods or not – with the exception of Islam. I see no redeeming qualities in Islam, but I’d never take away one’s right to worship the Pedophile Prophet and Allah – the byproduct of Pedo Mo’s twisted mind.
Vic on September 22, 2009 at 9:23 PM
Great point. Interesting how defensive they get. Wonder why.
CWforFreedom on September 22, 2009 at 9:23 PM
That’s nice, dear.
bloggless on September 22, 2009 at 9:23 PM
The computer and monitor you use right now, as well as the network we’re using, were all designed by smart people. Those smart people used their talents, solved problems, developed ideas, manufactured products, marketed them and looked at them and said, “it is good.”
and then completely dissociate themselves from that line of thinking and argue we evolved from apes.
Created.
Bought.
Paid for.
ted c on September 22, 2009 at 9:24 PM
I wonder who it is that is going to come in glory to judge the living and the dead.
fourdeucer on September 22, 2009 at 9:24 PM
He’ll go to church and raise his kids. About 5-10 years in, he’ll hear a sermon that ‘reaches’ him, and wonder what’s up. He’ll think it was nothing, but over time it will eat away, “is this all there is to life?” Suddenly, on one dark night, he’ll have a moment, a realization, and he’ll get on his knees and pray–something. It will take some time, but he’ll be Ned Flanders within a year of that.
99% chance of it, assuming your wife is a believer that actually believes.
battleoflepanto1571 on September 22, 2009 at 9:24 PM
oh please, the ‘enlightenment’ thinkers huh? you mean the ones that gave us THE TERROR in france??
the contrast between the 2 revolution could not be clearer…one was atheist, the other judeo-christian.
right4life on September 22, 2009 at 9:24 PM
If God doesn’t exist, why do atheists keep bringing Him up? Kinda like liberals who emphasize the fact that Sarah Palin is irrelevant, then do it again the next day, then the next day, then the next day, then the next day, then……….
jimmy2shoes on September 22, 2009 at 9:24 PM
I’m a non-amphibian and I’m non-tolerating of your ratings.
battleoflepanto1571 on September 22, 2009 at 9:25 PM
Eh. I like the idea of Religious Skeptics… I hope it means more people are thinking critically and perhaps researching their potential church.
/firm believer and skeptic of religious institutions
And I don’t think support for teaching evolution is a reliable indicator of partisanship. What’s that called, an ecological fallacy.
Free Constitution on September 22, 2009 at 9:26 PM
You know, this is kind of like how all conservatives (my self included) go on about how much better private schools (usually christian) and being home schooled (again, usually by christians) is then public schools and how the former usually turn out more intelligent and successful then the latter. But when the whole evolution/ID debate comes on the atheist conservatives/libertarians go on about how stuuuuuuuupid christians are and how if kids are told that ID is even a theory in a public school that they will turn out to be as stttuuuuppppiiiidd as those that are taught ID (which, gasp, tends to be taught in private schools and in homeschooling).
DethMetalCookieMonst on September 22, 2009 at 9:27 PM
You are the guy who won’t date atheists because they are too depressing to be around. Yes, folks, he really said it. Or, he really typed it.
Blake on September 22, 2009 at 9:27 PM
My biggest beef with hardcore atheists is that every one of them acts like they and they alone are the first people in history to not believe in Christianity.
atheist “I don’t believe in God!!!”
christian “ok”
atheist “Aren’t you offended???”
christian “um no, faith is an individual thing”
atheist “……STOP PERSECUTING ME!!!”
battleoflepanto1571 on September 22, 2009 at 9:27 PM
Uhmm… didn’t South park already cover this. AP, if you keep this up, I’ll crack you like a clam on my tumm-eh!
Rightwingguy on September 22, 2009 at 9:27 PM
Oh well. What do you expect from non-Ed?
Ronnie on September 22, 2009 at 9:27 PM
Nomes? Are they like dwarves? :P
Seriously what’s up with atheists being so evangelical? Do I try to (be-)Jesus everyone here? Nah, I prefer y’all find Him on your own…AP, you aren’t turning into Chuckles Johnson, are you? ;)
Or will I be labeled a flat-earther for asking that? lol
Battlecruiser-operational on September 22, 2009 at 9:28 PM
Perplexing,ain’t it!!
canopfor on September 22, 2009 at 9:28 PM
I thought that religious Hispanics were taking over. Now it’s the atheists? Make up your mind!
JKahn913 on September 22, 2009 at 9:28 PM
Religion is and should be a private matter.
The state has no business promoting or suppressing it – only protecting the right of the individual to engage or not engage in it.
Good Lt on September 22, 2009 at 9:28 PM
Or where religion prevails…
the inquisition…the muslim conquests…germanic civil wars…
ernesto on September 22, 2009 at 9:29 PM
I just wonder if the atheist conservatives shouldn’t promote religion anyway because more religious people means more conservative people.
misterpeasea on September 22, 2009 at 9:29 PM
Did they include the 12 million illegal immigrants that are mostly Catholic?
uknowmorethanme on September 22, 2009 at 9:30 PM
Trend lines have a knack for taking right turns…unforeseen events are well…unforeseen.
d1carter on September 22, 2009 at 9:30 PM
Does CNN have a poll on this!!(Sarc).
canopfor on September 22, 2009 at 9:31 PM
AP – Congrats. In the last century two countries also were de-christianized and it worked out well – Germany and Russia. Wear that badge of honor proudly.
Fuquay Steve on September 22, 2009 at 9:31 PM
FIFY.
rockmom on September 22, 2009 at 9:31 PM
Kind of like computer programmers saying that intelligent design is rubbish and cannot exist. Think real hard if you don’t understand what I’m saying.
DethMetalCookieMonst on September 22, 2009 at 9:31 PM
Cool! More obnoxious 20 something, Internet, neo-atheists! What could go wrong?
aikidoka on September 22, 2009 at 9:31 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_nqySMvkcw
Intelligent design is a poor term for it.
ernesto on September 22, 2009 at 9:32 PM
At the rate things are going, in twenty years, this country is going to be a 3rd World sh*t-hole like Cuba.
People are going to be praying for a piece of bread.
Dave R. on September 22, 2009 at 9:32 PM
I believe Catholic Charities is the largest charitable organization world wide.
Salvation Army also does a great job. That is why I was so pissed off when allahpundit slimed them last year. That was a real jerk thing to do, AP.
Blake on September 22, 2009 at 9:32 PM
I really dislike the idea of commenting on or in some way supporting through web hits a blog that celebrates atheism. I know don’t let the door hit your ass on the way out.
Ted Torgerson on September 22, 2009 at 9:32 PM
I have never heard an atheist say Bobdamnit.
fourdeucer on September 22, 2009 at 9:32 PM
how do the “church ‘n state” separators defend the tactics of environmentalism?’
On the one hand, there is a camp who crows so loudly about a coach praying before a football game–ACLU rises up, investigations and such. Then, on the other hand, they push faith in the environment, taxes to the new green church, and call heresy on anyone who raises questions about the “science” of global warming–a question to people who actually think they favor “science” over faith. I just don’t get the cognitive dissonance on this one.
ted c on September 22, 2009 at 9:32 PM
The common factor is man, who by nature perverts and distorts good into evil.
uknowmorethanme on September 22, 2009 at 9:32 PM
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