Video: Should Obama have skipped Fox News yesterday?

posted at 4:45 pm on September 21, 2009 by Allahpundit

Sure, why not? Scarborough’s right: The more adversarial Fox gets, replete with its own activist website and news producers literally cheerleading at mass protests organized against The One’s agenda, the less unseemly it is that Obama should choose to ignore them. Once a news outlet takes an “us and them” posture towards the president, it’s hard to fault him for making them choke on it; that’s why no one knocks Obama for refusing to do Rush’s show and no one knocked Bush for refusing to do Olbermann’s. And yes, granted, Chris Wallace is more evenhanded on his worst day than Rush or Olbermann is on his best, but why give Wallace a break with an interview when the rest of the network is arrayed against you? Especially when he’s shown that he’s willing to take off the gloves too.

The best argument to do Fox from Obama’s perspective is that it deprives them of crowing that he’s afraid to face them. But (a) he’s already faced both Wallace and Bill O’Reilly in the past, so that argument won’t wash and (b) Fox is going to crow anyway that the White House fears them whether he does the show or not. Why do them a favor?

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The poor guy was all tuckered out. Give him a rest….

unclesmrgol on September 21, 2009 at 4:47 PM

zombies.

moonbatkiller on September 21, 2009 at 4:47 PM

The best argument to do Fox from Obama’s perspective is that it deprives them of crowing that he’s afraid to face them. But (a) he’s already faced both Wallace and Bill O’Reilly in the past, so that argument won’t wash and (b) Fox is going to crow anyway that the White House fears them whether he does the show or not. Why do them a favor?

Because people actually watch Fox.

Vashta.Nerada on September 21, 2009 at 4:48 PM

Just another flub in the every day workings of the 0bama administartion.

Mirimichi on September 21, 2009 at 4:48 PM

Obama was going to do FOX, specifically BOR, but Bill said Obama could not touch his knee, so Obama opted out.

WashJeff on September 21, 2009 at 4:48 PM

Ogabe is afraid to answer questions from reporters who aren’t going to get starry-eyed the moment he walks in the room.

If he had an ounce of common sense he would understand that he is losing his chance to sway the opinion of an audience that hasn’t already quaffed his healthcare elixir.

Bishop on September 21, 2009 at 4:48 PM

Like Chris Wallace said, the Obama administration is a bunch of crybabies.

UltimateBob on September 21, 2009 at 4:49 PM

Comparing the blatant lies by Olberman to anything mentioned by anyone on Fox News, at any hour of the day, shows a complete lack of interest in the truth.

Freddy on September 21, 2009 at 4:50 PM

Obama shouldn’t be doing any of them. It’s time to end his rock star tour and take control of this country and his uncontrollable congress.

ColumbusConservative on September 21, 2009 at 4:50 PM

What is with this logical and rational post? Why aren’t you calling obama a wussy who doesn’t want to speak real americans. I’m shocked by this post, shocked! Though to be fair Allah you’re pretty rational in your assessments but that was the talking point I was sort of expecting.

Norvell on September 21, 2009 at 4:51 PM

I’m glad there’s one network I can watch and not see this sniveling POS with big ears flaunting his ego and telling whoppers. There is a saving grace to his refusal, at least you get some NEWS!

hip shot on September 21, 2009 at 4:51 PM

The bottom line is that Obama is afraid of the kinds of questions he’ll get from Chris Wallace. This tells us all we need to know about both Obama and about the media outlets he is willing to go to.

What’s more, Bush would never appear with Olbermann because Olbermann’s efforts would have been to humiliate and embarrass Bush, not ask penetrating policy questions. Chris Wallace would never, ever try to do that to President Obama. Big difference there. Obama is simply unable to conduct policy interviews in venues where he isn’t permitted to lie.

Rational Thought on September 21, 2009 at 4:51 PM

FOXNews is doing its job. It makes Obama look petty, not FOXNews.

SouthernGent on September 21, 2009 at 4:52 PM

AP–

I disagree. If Obama wants to reach the Middle he’s been alienating, then he has to use FOX news, regardless of what he thinks of them. It’s clear that there’s contempt for ABCCBSMSNBCCNNNBC from the public just by glancing at the Neilsens and the polls. So if Obama wants to be able to quell the fears of those who are disrupting Congressional Town Halls, then he has to reach them, and he can’t do it through the normal networks.

If he sits down with O’Reilly again, then he gets props from the Middle.

Nethicus on September 21, 2009 at 4:52 PM

Hannity is the only right winger on Fox.

Please name someone else.

faraway on September 21, 2009 at 4:52 PM

Sure, why not? Scarborough’s right: The more adversarial Fox gets, replete with its own activist website and news producers literally cheerleading at mass protests organized against The One’s agenda, the less unseemly it is that Obama should choose to ignore them.

Fox’s tilt to the right has ALWAYS been far less noticeable than the leftward tilt of the other outlets. Why should someone like Sarah Palin ever have consented to appear on ABC or CBS?

ddrintn on September 21, 2009 at 4:53 PM

Why do Fox? Possibly because they have more viewers than the rest of cable new combined?

michaelo on September 21, 2009 at 4:53 PM

Question: If you’re really trying to get your message out, why skip the one cable network with by far the highest, and growing, ratings?

Jeff from WI on September 21, 2009 at 4:54 PM

Fox News audience is exactly the people he needs to reach. But BO could never handle actual investigative questions without his team of advisers. Emmanuel and Axlerod would never allow it.

jbh45 on September 21, 2009 at 4:54 PM

It’s just smart for him not to go into any venue that may ask him tough questions. He has a tough enough time answering the softballs without a teleprompter.

BadgerHawk on September 21, 2009 at 4:54 PM

I think this administration is forgetting that Bozo is the president of the UNITED States, not the Left States of America.

txag92 on September 21, 2009 at 4:54 PM

But, but, but…what about his promise of post-partisanship?! I feel so betrayed…

Wyznowski on September 21, 2009 at 4:54 PM

Obama couldn’t take the heat at FOX so he elected to hang around with his mainstream media hand puppets.

rplat on September 21, 2009 at 4:54 PM

This was the Obama Administration’s petty way of getting even with Fox for carrying Dancing with the Stars on Broadcast TV instead of his magnificent appearance before Congress.

kingsjester on September 21, 2009 at 4:55 PM

There *is* an independent argument for doing Fox, but it presumes that The One is genuinely attempting to engage citizens in some framework of public deliberation. It’s straightforward: FOX has more net viewers and more opposing viewers.

Instead the President is hoping that low information voters will be swayed, whatever that means in their context, by an appearances = repetition = persuasion formula. As far as his troops are concerned: the media’s slobbering over the next two days about his Herculean effort will give them the pretexts they need to start pushing “rebound.”

omriceren on September 21, 2009 at 4:55 PM

It was a mistake because it just further dimishes his credibility. He frames the opposition (to healthcare) as a bunch of people telling lies because they want to hurt him politically.

If he was being honest then it would be easy for him to go on the network, face the lies and distortions, and set the record straight. By doing this, he would gain much more support and people would pay less attention to the opposition after they were discredited by Obama himself.

Of course, his characterization of his opponents is false, as confirmed by his cowardice.

Joe Caps on September 21, 2009 at 4:55 PM

Next week,more TV appearances by Obama.He’ll speak on the Home Shopping Network.

Jeff from WI on September 21, 2009 at 4:55 PM

Good call, AP. Fox is evil. Let them choke on it.

But the reality is that FOX has a lot of voters that BO needs to turn if he wants a friendly favorability rating.

Spirit of 1776 on September 21, 2009 at 4:55 PM

without pre-condition

rob verdi on September 21, 2009 at 4:55 PM

Hannity is the only right winger on Fox.

Please name someone else.

faraway on September 21, 2009 at 4:52 PM

Gutfeld?

On Topic – I don’t understand why Obama doesn’t do an interview with Fox News. It’s the people he needs to convert most and he’s avoiding them like the plague.

mjk on September 21, 2009 at 4:55 PM

After all of Obama’s partisan and obscene decisions he has made during his first year of the presidency, Obama will expect tough questions. He couldn’t even handle Stephanopolous yesterday.

cubachi on September 21, 2009 at 4:55 PM

No President should appear on a network that has one of the major personalities on that outlet calling him a “racist.”

That’s a line that cannot be crossed.

And this Fox producer at the protest, what a fraud.

I’ll usually defend Fox but not here.

As JFK said in another area, sometimes the party asks too much.

SteveMG on September 21, 2009 at 4:55 PM

Obamafail

PBoilermaker on September 21, 2009 at 4:56 PM

If he cared about the issue and wanted the “truth” to be told, Fox News should have been the first choice. He knows, as does the entire country, that his “enemies” are Fox viewers, ergo, they are the people I need to convince of the truth of my plan. By only feeding his loyal base, it doesn’t move anyone off the reservation.

KDB on September 21, 2009 at 4:56 PM

You say “Once a news outlet takes an “us and them” posture towards the president, its hard to fault them…” Doesn’t this apply both ways? Hasn’t the president constantly portrayed Fox as ‘them’? Should Fox keep up the pressure because Obama likes to paint Fox as the bad guy? I think so, because they will look weak if they pander to him.

Now on the issue of whether he should have appeared on Fox: Who really cares? I sure don’t. No one learned anything new from Obama appearing in all of those shows this weekend…and I am sure that we won’t learn anything tonight from Letterman. This is not a public policy tour for the president, it is a personal campaign tour. They are betting that people will support his policies because they like him personally. Unfortunately, some people actually fall for this propaganda.

blamegame on September 21, 2009 at 4:56 PM

If Fox wants Obama they need to promise an interviewer that would guarantee the level of respect he deserves. For example Barney the drunk and Otto the school bus driver come to mind.

Jed_Eckert on September 21, 2009 at 4:56 PM

I’m fine with the status quo. It defines reality without any false posturing, other than BOR.

a capella on September 21, 2009 at 4:57 PM

I think this administration is forgetting that Bozo is the president of the UNITED States, not the Left States of America.

txag92 on September 21, 2009 at 4:54 PM

Come to think of it, I don’t think he’s visited a state he didn’t carry in 2008.

ddrintn on September 21, 2009 at 4:57 PM

Why do them a favor?

Fox is on in my doctor’s office, gym, and airport. Maybe Obama should go on Fox because millions of people who pay his salary and fund his agenda watch it?

amerpundit on September 21, 2009 at 4:57 PM

Can’t Obama find a banana republic election for President Peanut to monitor? I mean, really…

TBenton on September 21, 2009 at 4:57 PM

Fox’s tilt to the right has ALWAYS been far less noticeable than the leftward tilt of the other outlets.
ddrintn on September 21, 2009 at 4:53 PM

On what planet is this?

Imagine if NBC had organized and promoted anti-war rallys during the Bush years. The major networks have a “bias”. In contrast, Fox isn’t just biased, it’s openly activist.
The only reason you don’t notice this is because well….you’re a wingnut poster on HA.

crr6 on September 21, 2009 at 4:57 PM

Norvell on September 21, 2009 at 4:51 PM

Get a room.

Joe Caps on September 21, 2009 at 4:57 PM

Oh, well…no one’s perfect, including Allahpundit.

Using the faulty logic he employs here, no Republican President should even allow NBC (or its affiliates), CBS, ABC, NPR, PBS, AP, Reuters, or CNN reporters onto the White House grounds, much less provide them with direct access. And Scarborough is a fool for the same reason:

“If they want to be the opposition, let them be”.

Really? Is there a thinking person left in America who doesn’t realize that these outlets were the de facto opposition to the Bush administration?

Jaibones on September 21, 2009 at 4:58 PM

Isn’t it simply an admission by Obama that he is afraid of tough questions? And in the case of the shows he did,what could he expect except slavish devotion?

Lonetown on September 21, 2009 at 4:58 PM

But BO could never handle actual investigative questions without his team of advisers. Emmanuel and Axlerod would never allow it.

jbh45 on September 21, 2009 at 4:54 PM

He couldn’t handle the softballs the other networks tossed his way this weekend.

MarkTheGreat on September 21, 2009 at 4:59 PM

As for Fox, they now have carte blanche to ridicule Obama as a coward and a partisan who can’t even stand up to an American news network.

Bombs away, Glenn.

Jaibones on September 21, 2009 at 4:59 PM

Bush and his administration still did Meet the Press. And don’t tell me MSNBC and NBC are different networks when Olberdouche is covering football for NBC.

Speedwagon82 on September 21, 2009 at 5:00 PM

Imagine if NBC had organized and promoted anti-war rallys during the Bush years. The major networks have a “bias”. In contrast, Fox isn’t just biased, it’s openly activist.
The only reason you don’t notice this is because well….you’re a wingnut poster on HA.

crr6 on September 21, 2009 at 4:57 PM

MSNBC is Obama’s personal network. The NYT is Obama’s personal newsletter. Fox was never up Bush’s ass in quite the same way. The only reason you don’t see this is because…well, you’re a moonbat poster here at Hot Air.

ddrintn on September 21, 2009 at 5:00 PM

No President should appear on a network that has one of the major personalities on that outlet calling him a “racist.”

That’s a line that cannot be crossed.

The left accuses Lou Dobbs of smearing Barack Obama, too. Does he refuse to go on CNN? Pat Buchanan is a regular and prominent analyst on MSNBC. I wouldn’t exactly describe him as a fan or even-handed man. Obama still goes on MSNBC.

Obama’s advisers and supporters still go on Fox. Professional spinsters ready for tough questioning.

Obama doesn’t want to go on Fox because he wouldn’t be prepared for tough questioning. All Snuffy did was point out the definition of a tax and Obama started to have a hissy fit. He’d absolutely break down on Fox.

amerpundit on September 21, 2009 at 5:00 PM

And of course, Fox viewers are sick of seeing his face on TV all the time anyway, so it’s a complete no-brainer. Besides, isn’t five shows enough? We’re not as hard of hearing or as stupid as he thinks we are.

Esthier on September 21, 2009 at 5:01 PM

Poor Joe. he woke up one morning a discovered he runs a teevee salon for New York and D.C. liberals.

mesquito on September 21, 2009 at 5:01 PM

Imagine if NBC had organized and promoted anti-war rallys during the Bush years. The major networks have a “bias”. In contrast, Fox isn’t just biased, it’s openly activist.
The only reason you don’t notice this is because well….you’re a wingnut poster on HA.

crr6 on September 21, 2009 at 4:57 PM

You mean like how ABC hosted an ObamaCare infomercial while NBC covered even the smallest anti-war rally as if it was the nation rising up?

amerpundit on September 21, 2009 at 5:01 PM

On what planet is this?

Imagine if NBC had organized and promoted anti-war rallys during the Bush years. The major networks have a “bias”.

crr6 on September 21, 2009 at 4:57 PM

You live in brainless denial. If you could think clearly, I’d challenge you to do a network news headcount looking for a conservative. But you’d just fuc& that up, too.

Jaibones on September 21, 2009 at 5:01 PM

But the White House specifically pointed out- again- that Fox had dared to play its regular programming on the night of his big speech to Congress. Fox played the speech on two of its three channels, but not all three. That is the reason they chose to ignore Fox News.

The WH is punishing a business for trying to make a profit. It really is that simple.

MayBee on September 21, 2009 at 5:01 PM

I love how the moonbats think our memories of the past eight years of media activity and treatment of Bush was wiped clean on January 20th.

amerpundit on September 21, 2009 at 5:03 PM

If Obama was a true bipartisan president, he would go on FOX News to make his case. You can’t shun a large portion of the public by not facing a media outlet that is very critical of you if you’re trying to rally support behind one of the biggest reforms in US history.

Democrats always say that the public is just too dumb to know what’s best for them. So how do they think they’re ever going to convince anyone when they won’t even step into the lion’s den to make their case? Who knows, maybe some FOX News viewers would change their mind? And if not – you’ve lost precisely nothing.

Obama and the Democrats are blowing this whole “golden opportunity” of theirs like it’s a hurricane.

Seixon on September 21, 2009 at 5:03 PM

Whine. Whine. Whine! Remember when the democrats wouldn’t do a debate on Fox News, but the Republicans were expected to take all the leftard heat from ABC, CBS, NBC, etc.? And, they did, BUT they had better, more informative debates on FOX! He NEEDS to do Wallace. He needs access to FoxNews’ viewers more than Wallace needs him. He is a scared b/c he isn’t genuine. He can’t say what he really believes off the cuff, so he has to hide. Say you want about John McCain, but he knows what he believes and has no problem saying it out loud. There isn’t one station or interviewer that would scare him.

JAM on September 21, 2009 at 5:03 PM

crr6 on September 21, 2009 at 4:57 PM

By the way, crr6, how many of those “conservative” news outlets sold Bush merchandise?

ddrintn on September 21, 2009 at 5:04 PM

Imagine if NBC had organized

Organized?

Lying about the opposition is exactly what Goebbels did.

See, I can make loony analogies too.

SteveMG on September 21, 2009 at 5:04 PM

And yes, granted, Chris Wallace is more evenhanded on his worst day than Rush or Olbermann is on his best, but why give Wallace a break with an interview when the rest of the network is arrayed against you? Especially when he’s shown that he’s willing to take off the gloves too.

I’m sorry “willing to take off the gloves too”? Didn’t he show that after the POTUS had snubbed his Sunday show?

Also by your standard a Conservative Republican would almost never accept an interview anywhere other than FOX.

CreatedOrSaved on September 21, 2009 at 5:04 PM

Is Allahpundit now on the Soros payroll? Or, are AP and CJ really an item? NTTIAWWT

Blake on September 21, 2009 at 5:05 PM

By the way, Allah? Have we heard any more about the Obama merchandise the networks were selling in their shops? The merchandise that surprised no one since the networks were shilling for Obama so much that even Jon Stewart started to mock them?

amerpundit on September 21, 2009 at 5:05 PM

crr6 on September 21, 2009 at 4:57 PM

wow. an actual liberal.

jbh45 on September 21, 2009 at 5:05 PM

I don’t like how Fox was cheerleading the tea party protests. I didn’t like it in April, and I didn’t like it the last few weeks. That being said, a lot of those segments with Griff Jenkins were aired during Hannity and Greta’s show. Stories on those kinds of shows will obviously have a partisan slant.

As for Obama boycotting Fox, there are arguments to be made for both sides. Look, Fox clearly has positioned itself as the anti-Obama network at this point. Mind you, they’re not MSNBC. They don’t smear the guy and strategically edit clips to make their case. The stories are factual and accurate and do a good job exposing how corrupt, incompetent, nefarious, and dangerous both this Administration and Congress have become. But obviously, one can understand why Obama would want to avoid that environment like the plague.

The flipside of course is that by going into the lion’s den, standing up to those mean “Fixed News” hacks, and defending his agenda and record, Obama could effectively neutralize the influence of the network and regain control of the national debate. The problem with this strategy is that it requires Obama to be capable of such a feat. We all know that is far from the case.

Doughboy on September 21, 2009 at 5:06 PM

Isn’t it simply an admission by Obama that he is afraid of tough questions? …

Lonetown on September 21, 2009 at 4:58 PM

EXACTLY!

Joe Caps on September 21, 2009 at 5:06 PM

But (a) he’s already faced both Wallace and Bill O’Reilly in the past, so that argument won’t wash and (b) Fox is going to crow anyway that the White House fears them whether he does the show or not. Why do them a favor?

FOXN is the one news channel not in the tank for Obama – so if he really does want to make his case in a fair and open manner he should be going to FOXN exclusively in fact.

When the alphabets “interview” him by point out how great he is it does NOTHING to enlighten the population on the benefits and costs of his policies. On…and O’Reilly? Hah.

18-1 on September 21, 2009 at 5:06 PM

Why do them a favor? The President is on TV more than the Sham Wow Guy – but not as effective. Fox isn’t losing any ratings not having him on, in fact Obama loses not taking advantage of going on Fox News the Highest rated. I didn’t miss not seeing the President again, saying the same thing he always does…nothing just soothing noises. Really he went on the media blitz, because this administration is shaky with it’s own base. Which should be the story but it isn’t. Over exposed intentionally so The Obama Administrations base is soothed. The 9-12 D.C. Protest are daunting, don’t forget Van Jones, Czars, ACORN….I don’t believe they are calmer if anything they are thinking “This is the Administrations idea of helping?”

Dr Evil on September 21, 2009 at 5:06 PM

By the way, crr6, how many of those “conservative” news outlets sold Bush merchandise?

ddrintn on September 21, 2009 at 5:04 PM

ZING!

That’s gonna leave a mark.

portlandon on September 21, 2009 at 5:06 PM

Good on FOX for running “Dancing with the Stars” instead of “Dancing around the Truth”

Flying Guliford Courthouse

Caststeel on September 21, 2009 at 5:07 PM

I prefer the uncluttered look of non-Obama Fox. It leaves more time for videos by Andrew Breitbart

Jeff from WI on September 21, 2009 at 5:07 PM

Why should President Obama go on Fox? He doesn’t intend to invite the Republican party in to even talk about healthcare reform, much less actively engage in it — assuming, of course, that there is a need to totally revamp a system that works without addressing the problems it has.

He’s going to go along with an effort to use the nuclear option of the dems in the senate and pass the monstrous house bill through by using the conference option.

It’s never been done, that I recall. The Republicans threatened on occasion to do that, but clearer heads prevailed. Nothing comes around but doesn’t go around.

If President Obama can get his Democratic caucuses aligned and get healthcare through, he doesn’t need to persuade the conservative voice. He knows he doesn’t have them anyway.

Tennman on September 21, 2009 at 5:07 PM

crr6 on September 21, 2009 at 4:57 PM

“Tingles” Mathews is a propagandist which is by definition activist. I guess you didn’t notice because you are teh ghey “tingler” too?

Guardian on September 21, 2009 at 5:07 PM

This is laughable…
So the Obama administration apparently thinks that they are doing the “right” thing by not rewarding Fox and giving them an interview…yet they want to have direct talks with crazy dictators.
Shouldn’t this be the other way around? Maybe they should approach and talk to the US citizens with concerns (i.e. Fox) instead of ignoring them…and instead ignore the crazy holocaust deniers.

blamegame on September 21, 2009 at 5:07 PM

Imagine if NBC had organized and promoted anti-war rallys during the Bush years. The major networks have a “bias”.

Imagine if CBS showed a fake document meant to smear the President.

Imagine if ABC sent a reporter all the way to Vietnam to talk to an NVA soldier about a demorat Presidential candidate’s “bravery”.

Imagine if NBC were to coordinate with the President for the most opportune airing of his speeches.

Imagine if MSNBC had a personality who regularly bashed the President and Vice President.

Imagine all the peeeeepppllllleeeee….

Bishop on September 21, 2009 at 5:07 PM

I don’t like how Fox was cheerleading the tea party protests.

Hear, hear.

For some reason a lot of other folks here who complain about the press are silent about this.

Imagine if MSNBC did this to Bush?

It’s wrong when any news organization favors one side or one view. Period.

SteveMG on September 21, 2009 at 5:09 PM

He’s diluted his brand amongst all the other networks to such an extent that I’m not sure it would even matter to Fox as much as most might think. I don’t think Obama avoiding them does anything to marginalize them either. It might even have the opposite effect once you have the stomach to watch MSNBC for a couple hours, and see how they handle this administration.

stldave on September 21, 2009 at 5:09 PM

Imagine if NBC had organized and promoted anti-war rallys during the Bush years. The major networks have a “bias”. In contrast, Fox isn’t just biased, it’s openly activist.
The only reason you don’t notice this is because well….you’re a wingnut poster on HA.

crr6 on September 21, 2009 at 4:57 PM

ABC organized and promoted an hour long infomercial for this President’s contoversial heathcare plan.

I don’t have to imagine that.

Asher on September 21, 2009 at 5:09 PM

Why do them a favor? The President is on TV more than the Sham Wow Guy – but not as effective. Fox isn’t losing any ratings not having him on, in fact Obama loses not taking advantage of going on Fox News the Highest rated. I didn’t miss not seeing the President again, saying the same thing he always does…nothing just soothing noises. Really he went on the media blitz, because this administration is shaky with it’s own base. Which should be the story but it isn’t. Over exposed intentionally so The Obama Administrations base is soothed. The 9-12 D.C. Protest are daunting, don’t forget Van Jones, Czars, ACORN….I don’t believe they are calmer if anything they are thinking “This is the Administrations idea of helping?”

Dr Evil on September 21, 2009 at 5:06 PM

“Look Martha,it’s that big eared African American President on TV again. ” “Oh Henry, I’m so tired of him, please turn the channel on to Fox”

Jeff from WI on September 21, 2009 at 5:09 PM

And of course, Fox viewers are sick of seeing his face on TV all the time anyway, so it’s a complete no-brainer. Besides, isn’t five shows enough? We’re not as hard of hearing or as stupid as he thinks we are.

Esthier

Oh, say aMEN to the congregation!

We didn’t have a single set on in the house until first kick-off. Worked like a charm. And FYI, Mr. Precedent: major dad was leisurely perusing his Sunday NYT the entire time. So there.

tree hugging sister on September 21, 2009 at 5:10 PM

I guess Scarborough’s comment makes sense – if Republican presidents refuse to talk to any of the other news outlets, lol.

Midas on September 21, 2009 at 5:10 PM

The best argument to do Fox from Obama’s perspective is that it deprives them of crowing that he’s afraid to face them. But (a) he’s already faced both Wallace and Bill O’Reilly in the past, so that argument won’t wash and (b) Fox is going to crow anyway that the White House fears them whether he does the show or not. Why do them a favor?

The problem for Obama is (a) the poll numbers are going against him and getting worse, so he’s got to do something that will be a game changer in a way that doing five virtually identical interviews on Sunday morning won’t and (b) going on Fox and making his case against a tough questioner would offer his supporters (if he did it well) a bunch of YouTube clips to use, plus the emotional boost of having gone up against the ‘evil’ Fox News and survived.

The only news Obama made in his Sunday morning appearances was when he bristled at George Stephanopolis’ ACORN question; his health care talk with the exact same words and the exact same background and the exact same tone did nothing to affect the current dynamic, and nothing in the way actually getting challenged and defending your plan would have. Which is why you end up with the meme that Obama’s afraid of Chris Wallace because he can’t defend his plan against tough questioning.

At least tonight he might be able to talk about his health care plan with Letterman while they’re dropping light bulbs off the roof of the Ed Sullivan Theater. That would be a little different, even if it’s no more convincing than what Obama did on the Sunday shows.

jon1979 on September 21, 2009 at 5:10 PM

Obama kind of reminds me of that big obnoxious pitcher of Kool Aid busting through walls screaming, Oh Yeah!

Jeff from WI on September 21, 2009 at 5:11 PM

Why do them a favor?

I’m scrambling to imagine how O’Bonehead on Fox News is doing anyone a favor, but I can’t. They would lose viewers in every single time slot with that clown on camera.

Jaibones on September 21, 2009 at 5:11 PM

I seem to remember a story about Catie Couric marching in a pro-abortion rally. Conservatives point these type of things out but continue to appear on these networks. Zero is really being childish or he is just throwing a bone to the far left where his loyalties are anyways.

Howcome on September 21, 2009 at 5:11 PM

And one other thing, didn’t GW Bush accept an interview on 60 Minutes after 7 years of the show doing it’s level best to destroy him including making up a story timed to torpedo his re-election?

Allah, you’re the reason I come to this site and to me the one of the few indispensable righty bloggers out there but you’re off on this one.

CreatedOrSaved on September 21, 2009 at 5:11 PM

But the White House specifically pointed out- again- that Fox had dared to play its regular programming on the night of his big speech to Congress. Fox played the speech on two of its three channels, but not all three. That is the reason they chose to ignore Fox News.

MayBee on September 21, 2009 at 5:01 PM

Correct me if I’m wrong; but wasn’t Fox giving more choices to the American people like, you know, the public option?

Jed_Eckert on September 21, 2009 at 5:11 PM

Imagine if MSNBC did this to Bush?

It did. No imagining necessary.

It’s wrong when any news organization favors one side or one view. Period.

SteveMG on September 21, 2009 at 5:09 PM

They do anyway. Having their biases out in the open at least lets viewers know what they’re watching.

That said, I didn’t like it that they cheered the protests either, but at least they were covering them.

Esthier on September 21, 2009 at 5:11 PM

crr6 on September 21, 2009 at 4:57 PM

wow. an actual liberal.

jbh45 on September 21, 2009 at 5:05 PM

What tipped you off? Was it the complete absence of logic? The sheer stupidity? The utter hypocrisy?

UltimateBob on September 21, 2009 at 5:11 PM

The administration’s approach to Fox News seems like tough international diplomacy…except they are applying it domestically.

blamegame on September 21, 2009 at 5:12 PM

I won’t argue with most of AP’s post, but correct me if I’m wrong – weren’t the Wallace and O’Reilly interviews both done during the campaign. It’s much different IMO to answer questions about your positions, versus answering questions about your actual policies and decisions. I think he is scared of answering questions from Wallace/O’Reilly about what he’s done/not done while in office.

thevastlane on September 21, 2009 at 5:12 PM

Obama is a girlie man in girlie jeans.

Elizabetty on September 21, 2009 at 5:14 PM

Fox smokes all the other channels together in ratings, so that alone makes sense for those who can think rationally.

However, to Obama supporters, Fox is like garlic to vampires. My old commie/unionist uncle, who stays with us during the summers, runs from the room if Fox is on the TV, as if he’ll burst into flame from all their obvious and malicous lies.

1921 C DRUM on September 21, 2009 at 5:14 PM

That said, I didn’t like it that they cheered the protests either, but at least they were covering them

That’s the point.

The other networks covered the protests too.

What’s disturbing here is that too many conservatives are becoming just like the left. What’s good for our side is somehow acceptable no matter if it’s ethical or proper or not.

We can’t complain about a fraud like Olbermann or MSNBC if we don’t care about standards across the board.

SteveMG on September 21, 2009 at 5:14 PM

Imagine if NBC had organized and promoted anti-war rallys during the Bush years.

crr343 on September 21, 2009 at 4:57 PM

Imagine if CNN had lied about the US nerve-gassing Laotian civilians, covered up Saddam Hussein’s nerve-gassing his own people, and falsely accused American troops of murdering Iraqi civilians.

Oh, that’s right.

CNN actually did all 3. And got a total pass on their behavior from getalifes like yourself.

Now go out and play. Dinner will be ready soon. Wagyu beef OK?

Del Dolemonte on September 21, 2009 at 5:14 PM

The only reason you don’t notice this is because well….you’re a wingnut poster on HA.

crr6 on September 21, 2009 at 4:57 PM

Says a wingnut poster on HA.

lorien1973 on September 21, 2009 at 5:14 PM

I don’t know if it has anything to do with doing Fox a favor, after all, I can’t see that Obama is doing such great things for the other networks. In fact, I am getting sick and tired of seeing the man…he is just about everywhere. Fox does not need to jump on that bandwagon.

Terrye on September 21, 2009 at 5:17 PM

This is also a chicken-or-the-egg thing. I seem to remember Candidate Obama railing against FOX on the campaign trail, and continued right into the oval office to be joined by CNBC. CNBC cowed while FOX went the other way.

CreatedOrSaved on September 21, 2009 at 5:17 PM

Since his numbers fall in direct correlation to the number of TV appearances he makes, yes he should’ve done Fox.

And MTV. And CMT. And the Disney Channel. And the History Channel. And Nickelodeon. And the Cartoon Network. And all ESPN channels. And the Food Network…

I’m sure I’m leaving a lot of them out, but the more the merrier.

TXUS on September 21, 2009 at 5:17 PM

Your argument doesn’t play out. It’s not like fox is exceptionally biased, its just they’re biased in the OTHER DIRECTION.

If fox were as biased as they are, but in the leftward direction, they’d be considered “fair”.

triple on September 21, 2009 at 5:17 PM

The best argument to do Fox from Obama’s perspective is that it deprives them of crowing that he’s afraid to face them.

No, the best argument to do Fox is because of the ratings at Fox are triple what it is at every other “news” outlet. If he wanted to get this message out to the most people he should have done Fox, plain and simple.

Dollayo on September 21, 2009 at 5:17 PM

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