Video: Should Obama have skipped Fox News yesterday?

posted at 4:45 pm on September 21, 2009 by Allahpundit

Sure, why not? Scarborough’s right: The more adversarial Fox gets, replete with its own activist website and news producers literally cheerleading at mass protests organized against The One’s agenda, the less unseemly it is that Obama should choose to ignore them. Once a news outlet takes an “us and them” posture towards the president, it’s hard to fault him for making them choke on it; that’s why no one knocks Obama for refusing to do Rush’s show and no one knocked Bush for refusing to do Olbermann’s. And yes, granted, Chris Wallace is more evenhanded on his worst day than Rush or Olbermann is on his best, but why give Wallace a break with an interview when the rest of the network is arrayed against you? Especially when he’s shown that he’s willing to take off the gloves too.

The best argument to do Fox from Obama’s perspective is that it deprives them of crowing that he’s afraid to face them. But (a) he’s already faced both Wallace and Bill O’Reilly in the past, so that argument won’t wash and (b) Fox is going to crow anyway that the White House fears them whether he does the show or not. Why do them a favor?

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The intended message is that Bambi is so great that he can occupy TV all Sunday, our day of rest.
Just give it a rest, Bambi. We all know where the OFF button is. And Netflicks works well, too. By the traffic in downtown LA, Dodger Stadium was a bigger draw.
Guess when you are running for the Worst President Evah, you gotta try harder.
Run Bambi, run. Oops, isn’t that a Disney copyrite? Sorry Burbank.

Flying Guilford Courthouse

Caststeel on September 21, 2009 at 5:17 PM

Wow, it doesn’t surprise me that it was Allah that wrote this moronic post. Just when I thought maybe he was getting back to being sensible, he goes and writes this piece of crap.

I guess anything goes for Allah so long as he can get a jab in at Glenn Beck. Just shows that he hasn’t changed and that he’s an insecure idiot.

MobileVideoEngineer on September 21, 2009 at 5:17 PM

That’s the point.

The other networks covered the protests too.

No, they really didn’t. Many didn’t even touch them until they could paint people as racist, carefully editing a story to make it look like white people were showing up with AKs.

What’s disturbing here is that too many conservatives are becoming just like the left. What’s good for our side is somehow acceptable no matter if it’s ethical or proper or not.

We can’t complain about a fraud like Olbermann or MSNBC if we don’t care about standards across the board.

SteveMG on September 21, 2009 at 5:14 PM

I normally agree with this sentiment, but I don’t see how treating Fox News with the same double standard liberals do is in any way doing away with that.

Esthier on September 21, 2009 at 5:18 PM

Oh, that’s right.

CNN actually did all 3. And got a total pass on their behavior from getalifes like yourself.

Del Dolemonte on September 21, 2009 at 5:14 PM

cerrvx,

Imagine if Fox made up a story about Obama complete with fake evidence and ran the story as news in an attempt to destroy his Presidency right before his re-election, a la CBS?

Jaibones on September 21, 2009 at 5:18 PM

Once a news outlet takes an “us and them” posture towards the president, when the president demands and all the other networks accede, an unabashedly pro-administration posture, often with strong sexual overtones, it’s hard to fault him for making them choke on it…

FIFY, AP.

Blake on September 21, 2009 at 5:18 PM

<blockquBut, but, but…what about his promise of post-partisanship?! I feel so betrayed…

Wyznowski on September 21, 2009 at 4:54 PM

With a name like Wyznowski, youshould feel betrayed.

1921 C DRUM on September 21, 2009 at 5:19 PM

Who’s afraid of the big bad wolf Fox?

I am so glad he wants to sit down with the big scary dictators of the world, but is afraid of Chris Wallace?

Well, Fox/chicken? [Sorry don't know how to type a chicken clucking.]

barnone on September 21, 2009 at 5:19 PM

Encouraging the Tea Party movement is more a matter of populism than partisanship, since the Tea Partiers, while leaning conservative, aren’t actually affiliated with the Republican party or Congressional Republicans and, many times, rail against both parties with similar vigor.

Unseemly? I’ll give you that. But it’s not the same as being Obama’s mouthpiece.

bamaconservative on September 21, 2009 at 5:19 PM

I guess anything goes for Allah so long as he can get a jab in at Glenn Beck. Just shows that he hasn’t changed and that he’s an insecure idiot.

MobileVideoEngineer on September 21, 2009 at 5:17 PM

My guess is this is how he sees it. I think AP’s wrong, but let’s leave it at that, no?

Jaibones on September 21, 2009 at 5:19 PM

So much to question. Is Fox’s webiste any more “activist” then any other MSM site? Producers cheerleading tea parties/townhalls? As oppose to ignoring? Us/them seems like a chicken egg arguement. Fox only has to answer to whoever turns on their network and to a degree their advertisers, Mr. Obama is suppost to be the president of the entire country, shouldn’t it be his responsibility to go where the largest number of citizens can be found? It’s not like he has been treated rudely and as to smarta$$ remarks, I don’t think the remark about So You Think You Can Dance rating was the very mature.

Cindy Munford on September 21, 2009 at 5:20 PM

Once a news outlet takes an “us and them” posture towards the president, it’s hard to fault him for making them choke on it; that’s why no one knocks Obama for refusing to do Rush’s show and no one knocked Bush for refusing to do Olbermann’s.

Rush isn’t on a mainstream “news” network, so that comparison doesn’t work. But the Olbermann comment is just ridiculous. Fox News dominates cable news, and is increasingly taking a bite out of network news ratings. Olbermann is just a show for Kos Kids to watch, isn’t influential in the least. On Fox’s influence, can you say Van Jones? NEA? ACORN funding? Tea-parties, and dwindling Obamacare support?

RightWinged on September 21, 2009 at 5:20 PM

crr:

For one thing, Fox did not organize any rallies. Those people organized themselves. Fox can not get hundreds of thousands of people to turn out all over the country. If some producer actually supports those folks, I fail to see what is wrong with that. After all, CNN had no problem sending out a reporter to humiliate them.

And by the way, when Bush was president, CBS tried to pawn forgeries off on the American public for the sole purpose of hurting the man. CNN and NBC both ran biased stories on a regular basis.

Now, when the left gets a tiny bit of this stuff back, they cry like little girls.

Terrye on September 21, 2009 at 5:20 PM

The best argument to do Fox from Obama’s perspective is that it deprives them of crowing that he’s afraid to face them.

No, the best argument, imo, would be to reach Fox’s viewers, and at least give the appearance of making some effort to persuade them regarding Obama’s policies. By ignoring Fox, he ignores all of Fox’s viewers. Just another slap in the face to flyover country. We are just not worth his time.

mbs on September 21, 2009 at 5:20 PM

No he shouldn’t have skipped, but it is SO FUNNY that he did!

From the web, and I couldn’t have sais it better myself:

Let newspapers die, it is implied, and we’ll be left with unprofessional hacks like these two. That might resonate if not for two facts: 1. O’Keefe and Giles did a pretty darn professional job exposing ACORN’s true nature. 2. It’s becoming pretty obvious that the Post and its peers cannot be bothered to do stories like this unless it suits their ideological agenda.

The same goes for the Elite Media…

Khun Joe on September 21, 2009 at 5:21 PM

Now, when the left gets a tiny bit of this stuff back, they cry like little girls.

Terrye on September 21, 2009 at 5:20 PM

The left and allahpundit.

Blake on September 21, 2009 at 5:22 PM

I wonder when Allahpundit became a RINO.

To say,

“Once a news outlet takes an “us and them” posture towards the president….”

requires the delusion that it was FOX news which - for lack of better phrases – “started it.”

Ick.

Lockstein13 on September 21, 2009 at 5:23 PM

The REAL REASON is that FOX News would destroy this shameless liar in 5 seconds.

marklmail on September 21, 2009 at 5:23 PM

The administration’s approach to Fox News seems like tough international diplomacy…except they are applying it domestically.

blamegame on September 21, 2009 at 5:12 PM

So I guess that’s the distinction. They want to sit down and give away the store when it comes to our foreign enemies

But they draw the line with what they perceive to be domestic enemies — Fox, Republicans, Townhallers, Tea Partiers, etc.

TXUS on September 21, 2009 at 5:24 PM

I love how the moonbats think our memories of the past eight years of media activity and treatment of Bush was wiped clean on January 20th.

amerpundit on September 21, 2009 at 5:03 PM

Same thing happened in January of 2001.

Remember, it wasn’t Chimpy who linked al Qaeda to Saddam Hussein. Clinton did so in 1998.

And it wasn’t Chimpy who made up WMDs in Iraq. Clinton, Gore, Peloosi, Kerri, and even Sheets Byrd were all saying that the WMDs were there. In 1998.

Del Dolemonte on September 21, 2009 at 5:25 PM

Dude.

SlaveDog on September 21, 2009 at 5:26 PM

Blake:

I think that sometimes Allah is just playing the devil’s advocate..after all, the boss is Michelle Malkin and she is not exactly a stranger over at Fox.

Terrye on September 21, 2009 at 5:26 PM

But (a) he’s already faced both Wallace and Bill O’Reilly in the past, so that argument won’t wash and

Not valid, he had almost no track record to judge him by then , now there’s stuff he’s done he has to explain.

(b) Fox is going to crow anyway that the White House fears them whether he does the show or not. Why do them a favor?

They can crow either way , but it would be honest to the people if he took question from someone else then the loyal media. And yes , that may be the problem , he dont want to be honest.

the_nile on September 21, 2009 at 5:27 PM

You know I was looking for the lefties comments on the Media starting to notice ObamaCare’s false promises? article here on HA, but I guess you guys are here.

Care to comment on:

CBS, meanwhile, reports on the “Five Health Care Promises Obama Won’t Keep“:
No individual mandate
Complete transparency
Gov’t to directly negotiate for drug prices
Allow drug importation
Lower premiums by $2500 for a family of four

But you know, they didn’t ask him any of these questions on Sunday. I guess the answer is the same as why you didn’t post on this article.

Who’s afraid of the big bad wolf Fox?

barnone on September 21, 2009 at 5:27 PM

holy crap is andrea old or a lunarscape – or both?

jcrue on September 21, 2009 at 5:28 PM

It’s all about Obama’s lack of courage, his lack of spine. Adrienne Ross says it perfectly:

http://www.motivationtruth.com/2009/09/governor-palin-takes-president-obama-to.html#comment-form

gary4205 on September 21, 2009 at 5:28 PM

DelDolmonte:

It was also that media that has been doing all the whining that tied AlQaida to Saddam. I seem to remember a special done by ABC back in 1999 on that subject, I think it was called Target America, or something like that.

But once the man in the White House had an R behind his name, all that just goes right down the memory hole.

Terrye on September 21, 2009 at 5:28 PM

Del: Come on over to Conservative Talk and say hello to all your old Power Line friends.

SlaveDog on September 21, 2009 at 5:29 PM

Small correction AP. Fox didn’t take an “us vs. them” attitude. They either told the truth, stuck to the facts or did honest journalism. Forty five attaboys to Fox.

Bad kid, AP. Stirring the pot again.

Flying Guilford Courthouse

Caststeel on September 21, 2009 at 5:33 PM

Is Allahpundit now on the Soros payroll? Or, are AP and CJ really an item? NTTIAWWT

Blake on September 21, 2009 at 5:05 PM

Well, he refuses to tweet anymore, he’s gotta be spending his time with someone (CJ).

I_C on September 21, 2009 at 5:33 PM

So much to question. Is Fox’s webiste any more “activist” then any other MSM site?

Cindy Munford on September 21, 2009 at 5:20 PM

I’ve been to the Faux News website. At least 90% of the “news stories” they carry are from the same sources (al-AP, etc) that everyone else uses.

That alone is an Inconvenient Truth that none of our resident Leftist Fox-haters will ever admit to.

Del Dolemonte on September 21, 2009 at 5:34 PM

Why do them a favor?

Silly me – I thought he was supposed to be the PRESIDENT of the whole country – not just his fans and tweet buddies.

Guess that means people who watch FOX are justified in thinking he’s just the same Dem AH who ran for an office that he’s spent the last 8 months whining about being hard.

katiejane on September 21, 2009 at 5:34 PM

Finally, we’re seeing some numbers. I personally think they are unacceptable.

AnninCA on September 21, 2009 at 5:34 PM

I’ve said this before, but is worth repeating. Obama can’t gain additional support for his HC plan because he is preaching to the choir. He needs to work on converts and those converts are found at FOX.

I hope he continues to ignore FOX. Only works against him, since FOX continues to smoke everyone else in the ratings.

ramrants on September 21, 2009 at 5:35 PM

I think Jenkins went a bit too far with the cheerleading bits, but I don’t think FNC is “choking on” BO’s refusal to appear. Being on Obama’s bad side is becoming more appealing every day.

forest on September 21, 2009 at 5:35 PM

Blake:

I think that sometimes Allah is just playing the devil’s advocate..after all, the boss is Michelle Malkin and she is not exactly a stranger over at Fox.

Terrye on September 21, 2009 at 5:26 PM

Sometimes but not always. And Malkin is not a Charles Johnson. She doesn’t demand nor expect her readers to be her toadies.

Blake on September 21, 2009 at 5:36 PM

Well considering he would have reached a larger audience by doing Fox news as opposed to all the other put together shows he doesn’t care about getting his message out. He is just addicted to being a star and being on TV.

The Notorious G.O.P on September 21, 2009 at 5:36 PM

I really don’t get this AP hate on here. Why is he a RINO when he brings up reasonable points? Just because you disagree with him doesn’t make him a RINO.

You want a real RINO? Arlen Specter. If you’re equating AP with Arlen Specter then you’ve got a screw loose.

Nethicus on September 21, 2009 at 5:37 PM

I’m going to have to chalk this one up to Allah’s hatred for Glenn Beck boiling over.

Only reason he would botch this one so badly. I felt like I was reading kos.

Smiles on September 21, 2009 at 5:37 PM

Will Allahpundit say that a Republican president is justified not appearing on CNN since it airs segments slandering Republican opposition as racist?

JKahn913 on September 21, 2009 at 5:37 PM

ACORN head Bertha Lewis has been on FOX.

Is Ms. Lewis braver than the One?

ToddonCapeCod on September 21, 2009 at 5:39 PM

It’s not all of Fox that is rabidly anti-Obama, though. Obama does what liberals always do – assume everyone in a given group is exactly the same.

O’Reilly goes out of his way to give Obama the benefit of the doubt. Beck and Hannity can’t resist any opportunity to slam him. Chris Wallace is tough on everybody, and pretty non-partisan on air.

Why not favor the less conservative shows on Fox, showing that the One is willing to work with folks who are willing to drop some of the partisan rhetoric?

hawksruleva on September 21, 2009 at 5:39 PM

Instead of attacking AP or his credentials, why not just respond to his arguments?

If his arguments are defeated who cares whether he’s a 100% true blue conservative?

Sorry, but some of the posts on this site are getting silly.

Too much ad hominem, not enough substance.

SteveMG on September 21, 2009 at 5:40 PM

It was also that media that has been doing all the whining that tied AlQaida to Saddam. I seem to remember a special done by ABC back in 1999 on that subject, I think it was called Target America, or something like that.

But once the man in the White House had an R behind his name, all that just goes right down the memory hole.

Terrye on September 21, 2009 at 5:28 PM

Of course it does.

Clinton’s Justice Dept. specifically cited an an Qaeda connection to Iraq when they indicted bin Laden in 1998. You can easily find the indictment text on line.

And yes, ABC News did cover the bin Laden story in 1999. Sheilah McVicar did the reporting.

And in 2003, a Clinton-appointed Federal Judge in Manhattan actually ruled that Iraq played a role in 9/11. That’s down the memory hole as well.

Del Dolemonte on September 21, 2009 at 5:40 PM

Well, he refuses to tweet anymore, he’s gotta be spending his time with someone (CJ).

I_C on September 21, 2009 at 5:33 PM

How perceptive of you. The other week, AP alluded to the possibility of having some real live contact with what I assume was a non-latex, chipless female.

Blake on September 21, 2009 at 5:40 PM

Remember how Bush went on Letterman yet refused to do NBC? Oh wait………

This is a bad call by both Joe and AP.

di butler on September 21, 2009 at 5:40 PM

Del: Come on over to Conservative Talk and say hello to all your old Power Line friends.

SlaveDog on September 21, 2009 at 5:29 PM

Thanks for the heads-up, I will check it out when I get a chance. Will I be able to beat up on vladimir estragon there, or is he still busy building the Orange Line extension from Foggy Bottom to the Pentagon?

Del Dolemonte on September 21, 2009 at 5:42 PM

Well considering he would have reached a larger audience by doing Fox news as opposed to all the other put together shows he doesn’t care about getting his message out. He is just addicted to being a star and being on TV.

The Notorious G.O.P on September 21, 2009 at 5:36 PM

Network news shows still typically beat Fox news. Beck has had a few nights higher than the networks, but that’s a big deal because it’s the exception, not the rule.

That said, going on Fox would reach additional eyeballs. But I think he’s trying to secure the support of his base, and they ain’t watching Fox.

hawksruleva on September 21, 2009 at 5:43 PM

Let’s kick Allahpundit OUT of the party. Who’s with me? huh? Come on everyone..say it with me?
Hey, Hey, RINO
Allahpundit gots to GO!

Maybe we can get Michelle to fire him too. Wouldn’t that be great?
/sarc

Seriously, people…what is this crap about Allahpundit? If you disagree with him, then attack the message and not the messenger. What a waste of a comment.

ramrants on September 21, 2009 at 5:45 PM

I think everyone knows why he did not do Fox Sunday….He can’t control them.

d1carter on September 21, 2009 at 5:46 PM

I don’t think Barack minds going on Fox News… I think either his wife or Rahm-rod decided to skip going on.

Opinionnation on September 21, 2009 at 5:49 PM

crr6 on September 21, 2009 at 4:57 PM

wow. an actual liberal.

jbh45 on September 21, 2009 at 5:05 PM

What tipped you off? Was it the complete absence of logic? The sheer stupidity? The utter hypocrisy?

UltimateBob on September 21, 2009 at 5:11 PM

Don’t forget the whining.

Jim Treacher on September 21, 2009 at 5:50 PM

SteveMG on September 21, 2009 at 5:40 PM

My thoughts exactly. Stick to the substance or we sound like whiney lefties!

thevastlane on September 21, 2009 at 5:50 PM

Well, he refuses to tweet anymore, he’s gotta be spending his time with someone (CJ).

I_C on September 21, 2009 at 5:33 PM
How perceptive of you. The other week, AP alluded to the possibility of having some real live contact with what I assume was a non-latex, chipless female.

Blake on September 21, 2009 at 5:40 PM

He bragged about it, even. Go for it AP!!!!!!!

I_C on September 21, 2009 at 5:50 PM

Del Dolemonte on September 21, 2009 at 5:34 PM

I went to the link that Allah posted and it is “Fox Nation” so I thought that maybe it was more opinions then news. The things I clicked on were either videos of the people in the news or print stories from MSM sources, there doesn’t appear to be much commentary.

Cindy Munford on September 21, 2009 at 5:50 PM

faced both Wallace and Bill O’Reilly in the past

LOL! That was a pea brained, softball interview almost as bad as when O’Reilly interviewed kerry and allowed him to spin like a top on ANWR.

O’Reilly did accuse Bozo of being a socialist as he did with the harridan, but then he let Bozo off the hook.

Would O’Reilly press him on the personal mandate tax or any of Bozo’s other lies? Actually, he might.

dogsoldier on September 21, 2009 at 5:50 PM

Thanks for the heads-up, I will check it out when I get a chance. Will I be able to beat up on vladimir estragon there, or is he still busy building the Orange Line extension from Foggy Bottom to the Pentagon?

Del Dolemonte on September 21, 2009 at 5:42 PM

Heh. No Vlady. I said “friends”.

SlaveDog on September 21, 2009 at 5:53 PM

Once a news outlet takes an “us and them” posture towards the president, it’s hard to fault him for making them choke on it; that’s why no one knocks Obama for refusing to do Rush’s show and no one knocked Bush for refusing to do Olbermann’s.

Rush isn’t on a mainstream “news” network, so that comparison doesn’t work. But the Olbermann comment is just ridiculous. Fox News dominates cable news, and is increasingly taking a bite out of network news ratings. Olbermann is just a show for Kos Kids to watch, isn’t influential in the least. On Fox’s influence, can you say Van Jones? NEA? ACORN funding? Tea-parties, and dwindling Obamacare support?

RightWinged on September 21, 2009 at 5:20 PM

Thinking about this more, I’d like to go a little further…

He can dodge the insanely fair Chris Wallace for no reason, but why not say he’ll do the interview with Geraldo or Shep? I mean, with either of those two interviewing The One, we could really get a lesson in teabagging.

Again, the main point is that I don’t buy the Rush/Olby comparisons. Fox News has effectively become “The Mainstream Media”. They speak to an ever increasing audience, middle America, center-right America (which is America), etc. Much like the tactic of calling opponents racists, political terrorists, kkk mobs, etc. etc. winds up working against the name callers, snubbing Fox News will only hurt them.

RightWinged on September 21, 2009 at 5:54 PM

The One should be on every TV channel 24/7.

Obama should do the weather report, read the news, have a talk show with him as the host and the guests.
There should be several reality shows featuring the Obama family.
A daily cooking show with Obama fixing up his favorite foods and Michelle bringing in fresh produce from the garden. “Did you pick any of that arugula?”.
MTV would have him doing all the music videos. “Here´s the latest from Britney Spears, featuring me, Obama, in a duet with Britney called “Obama-U-Care”.

All commercials on TV should feature Obama pitching all the products and services; McDonalds, GMs, Apple computers, Feminine Hygiene products, dog food (“Our dog in the White House loves Gravey Train and so will yours”!)

Sports broadcasts will be done with Obama and the teams will all be with Obama`s face digitally overlaid on each player. “Quarterback Obama throws the football to tight end Obama, but the ball is intercepted by Obama!”

We cannot get enough of the One.

albill on September 21, 2009 at 5:57 PM

Once a news outlet takes an “us and them” posture towards the president, it’s hard to fault him for making them choke on it; that’s why no one knocks Obama for refusing to do Rush’s show and no one knocked Bush for refusing to do Olbermann’s.

Did Olbermann ever ask? I was not under the impression that he ever interviewed anybody who disagrees with him.

Jim Treacher on September 21, 2009 at 5:57 PM

The more adversarial Fox gets, replete with its own activist website and news producers literally cheerleading at mass protests organized against The One’s agenda, the less unseemly it is that Obama should choose to ignore them.

That seems at odds with the President’s message of being “post-partisan” does it not? Not that THE ONE hasn’t contradicted himself (NOTE: I DID NOT SAY LIE!) before.

Off course, things are “different” at MSNBC, where they “have a vested interest in the President’s success”. To quote one of their premier talking heads. The only problem with Joey’s theory is that the “cheerleading” is done under the guise of ‘impartial reporting’.

Sorry Joey, that dog won’t hunt.

GarandFan on September 21, 2009 at 5:59 PM

He’s the freaking President!

He should be setting THE example of civility and decorum, regardless of how his critics behave. He could have tried to show that he was above the fray and faced Chris Wallace like a man (who in spite of his recent comment is always very professional and a good interviewer.) He might not have changed many minds but he may have gained a bit of respect.

Monica on September 21, 2009 at 6:04 PM

…scratching my head wondering how MM allows this kind of fratricide to go on in here as often as it does.

Way to go Allahpundit! I’ll watch my back if I am ever in a fox hole with you during a real war.

Bleed_thelizard on September 21, 2009 at 6:05 PM

Will Allahpundit say that a Republican president is justified not appearing on CNN since it airs segments slandering Republican opposition as racist?

JKahn913 on September 21, 2009 at 5:37 PM

No but I’m sure he will rush to Sarah Palin’s defense the next time one of the MSM trash & hash her.

katiejane on September 21, 2009 at 6:08 PM

cj told me that anyone who thinks that Obama should have been on Fox News is a racist and should be banned. From everything, or whatever.

WWS on September 21, 2009 at 6:09 PM

I tuned into Randy Rhodes today; she spent a whole hour bashing Fox news…

liquidflorian on September 21, 2009 at 6:13 PM

Listening to these people on MSNBC you conclude a few things:

1) They are so partisan FOR Obama.
2) They have NO CLUE what is in the Baucus version of the bill.
3) They are in an insulated fantasyland and don’t get out.

Sapwolf on September 21, 2009 at 6:13 PM

So he was looking to gain support for his health care plan and he only talked to people who support his health care plan. Yeah, well, I guess that’s one strategy.

Ronnie on September 21, 2009 at 6:14 PM

Haven’t the polls shown that the more people hear about Obamacare they LESS they like it? So we should be happy he’s doing the friendly MSM – if their viewers hear his tripe often enough maybe they’ll wise up?

katiejane on September 21, 2009 at 6:17 PM

Don’t let your jealousy of Beck eat you alive, Allah.

notagool on September 21, 2009 at 6:27 PM

I think by doing all Sunday news-talk shows, with the exception of FOX means that he feels that he can’t hack it. It was softball after softball. Only George S asked about ACORN (hasn’t been keeping up with it) and taxes (he tried to make George dumb for even asking). Chris Wallace would have just kept asking questions he doesn’t want to answer.

Fox has not laid the groundwork for us v them. I think it has been this administration as a whole degrading millions of citizens. You know that whole “I won, get over it” thing and can’t be bothered listening to us racist terrorists.

cibolo on September 21, 2009 at 6:32 PM

…scratching my head wondering how MM allows this kind of fratricide to go on in here as often as it does.
Way to go Allahpundit! I’ll watch my back if I am ever in a fox hole with you during a real war.
Bleed_thelizard on September 21, 2009 at 6:05 PM

I do believe that if AP was not employed by Michelle Malkin, he would be one of her most snide critics.

MoCoM on September 21, 2009 at 6:33 PM

It does not serve the conservative cause for Fox to become a right-wing echo chamber. Conservatives grow stronger and their arguments more compelling when they are constantly and substantively questioned, challenged and made to defend their point of view with cold, hard facts.

Hannity can be bright and articulate when he wants to be. What a shame that he so often resorts to bullying and berating which do nothing to win anyone over.

I pray that Fox does not become a mirror image of MSNBC. If we don’t win on substance, there’s no point in winning.

texasentrepreneur on September 21, 2009 at 6:36 PM

I don’t think Fox News cares. I think they are laughing all the way to the bank with their ratings.

gophergirl on September 21, 2009 at 6:47 PM

Which is more accurate/healthy for our republic?

a. Media outlets adversarial with government and keeping them hones.

b. Media in bed with government advocating for the success of their agenda.

Once again Obama/Dems have reframed the debate.

marklmail on September 21, 2009 at 6:58 PM

Weird to see Joe dimmed out like that. Mojo’s gone and the network packed it and put it in their attic. That said, ratings for a FOX/Obama interview would double or triple their current audience and Obama does not want that to happen.

Nice try to dodge that matter but at least they did not get worse at it than usual. Time to start asking some serious questions.

Exit question: Has the alphabet networks approached Dick Cheney or Karl Rove for interviews and/or opines? I have not heard complaints on that matter or read anything on Twitter. Did I miss something?

ps: No I am not Allah, I am PPF.

ProudPalinFan on September 21, 2009 at 7:07 PM

He skipped FOX for the same reasons we took the “easy teachers” classes. He didn’t want to have to answer the tough questions.

Alden Pyle on September 21, 2009 at 7:27 PM

Oops, Allah, your slip is showing. And when I say slip, I mean your entrenched East Coast antipathy toward the great unwashed masses of the hinterlands. Because let’s face it, you’re not exactly a huge fan of populism, are you? Fox News has devoted itself to serving up news to a certain sector of this country and it does so in a style that may well pander to Mr. and Mrs. Middle America, and my guess is that for the most part, those people flat out give you the creeps. Just be honest about your biases. Why not? Everybody has them, irrational and unwarranted as they may be. Maybe you should take a few side trips to a Columbus, Ohio or a Knoxville, Tennessee. Rub shoulders with the rabble for a few days. The fact is that Fox is the only major news outlet nowadays that has the guts to speak truth to power and we really shouldn’t knock them for it. Obama wasn’t exactly beating a path to their door BEFORE the election, now was he? So, please don’t start sounding all collusive with the MSM hacks, okay? It just doesn’t hold up. Still love you, though! Whilst I’m hectoring: enough with the “Dude!” posts, maybe.

cynccook on September 21, 2009 at 7:39 PM

“..replete with its own activist website and news producers literally cheerleading at mass protests organized against The One’s agenda, the less unseemly it is that Obama should choose to ignore them.”

..Oh, please, AP! Chris Matthews’ leg tingles? the almost daily orgasms the press has been having over this pantload since he made his way out of the wilderness and got anointed as the new savior?

If the liberal left as supposedly mature enough to sort out boosterism watchin CNN and [P]MSNBC, conservatives/centrists can’t weed out the over-the-top stuff by Hannity or Van Sustern, or O’Reilly, or Beck.

What? we’re not allowed our own echo-chambers?

What a bunch of smug bastards they are.

VoyskaPVO on September 21, 2009 at 7:55 PM

Imagine if NBC had organized and promoted anti-war rallys during the Bush years. The major networks have a “bias”. In contrast, Fox isn’t just biased, it’s openly activist.
The only reason you don’t notice this is because well….you’re a wingnut poster on HA.

crr6 on September 21, 2009 at 4:57 PM

Fox neither organized, nor promoted protests. Their news unit covered news. Their opinion journalists talked about them.

Show me a specific document that proves otherwise.

massrighty on September 21, 2009 at 8:18 PM

The bottom line is that Obama is afraid of the kinds of questions he’ll get from Chris Wallace.

I don’t think so. I actually think that Fox would be respectful and Obama would do fine and people who want to see blood in the water would be attacking Fox for “selling out”.

No, the real bottom line is that the Dems have adopted the strategy of marginalizing Fox and so no interviews from Bambi, no debates in the Dem primary and so forth. To do otherwise would undercut their argument that Fox is an illegitimate news organization.

The Republicans should do exactly the same thing with MSNBC. No interviews. No appearances. And when the 2012 elections come around, no debates.

PackerBronco on September 21, 2009 at 8:31 PM

So FOX Cheered the protests. BIG FREAKING DEAL. THE OTHER NETWORKS JEERED THE PROTESTS! Covering the protests without deriding the protesters, having panelists on questioning whether or not the protesters are motivated by hatred and racism, and not calling them TEABAGGERS doesn’t mean you are cheering the protests.

So far as FOX NEWS being anti-Obama, well considering all the absolute corruption, lies, and attacks on Obama’s critics that come from this administration, the ONLY way FOX could come off as not anti-Obama would be to fail to act like a REAL news organization and IGNORE all the garbage like the rest of the networks. I suppose FOX News could try and make itself a little more friendly to Obama by only reporting half of the news worthy stories of corruption, lies, and attempts to change the very face of this nation the Obama administration is committing. WOULD THAT MAKE YOU HAPPY LEFTIES?

Sheesh ALLAH, Trolls usually interject their lunacy into the discussion of a story, not be the actual originator of the story. Why don’t you rewrite this story as a more rational thinker, then come along with one of your sock puppet identities and throw in all the nut ball assertions as a troll. It’s just too confusing to me when the story starts out sounding like some post by a troll.

flyfishingdad on September 21, 2009 at 8:33 PM

that argument won’t wash

Bull.

That argument has more merit than the internally inconsistent speeches that Obama makes where he regularly promises two things that are diametrically opposed and therefore impossible. OR he engages in outright doubletalk ala “there is no health care tax” EXCEPT FOR THE SUBSECTION IN THE HEALTHCARE BILL ABOUT THE HEALTH CARE TAX.

He’s not going to raise taxes, instead he’s going to charge you a government fee to be attributed toward a government program. WTF.

The argument that Obama’s scared to face Fox News not only has merit, but is simply true.

Even if we hold it to a much higher standard than ANYTHING Obama’s held to, it’s a valid and accurate statement.

I’m still waiting to hear the house censure the President for calling Republicans and bloggers Liars in his Health care speech before congress. I Mean afterall, we’re apparently not allowed to call someone a liar in that chamber.

Oh I’m sorry, the rules only apply to non-democrats.

Jones Zemkophill on September 21, 2009 at 8:35 PM

FTW: Bernie Goldberg essentially agreed with me on the Factor tonight! In yo face AllahPundit!

RightWinged on September 21, 2009 at 8:51 PM

It will be interesting to see what the results of his info fest. Let’s see what the polls show, if he was able to get more support from the people.

I can’t imagine the way he pushed Stephanopolis around won him many friends.

Queen0fCups on September 21, 2009 at 8:54 PM

Why do them a favor?

Because FOX has the audience of skeptics that need to be persuaded. A winning argument presented there would move poll numbers and Congressional support in the One’s direction.

Oh, but he doesn’t have a winning argument.

exdeadhead on September 21, 2009 at 9:24 PM

Chris Wallace would have chewed up Obama and spit him out. Obama was very happy to find ANY excuse not to face Wallace. Why knock FOX they are the only place you can go to gear both sides of a story? There would be no discussion now if it wasn’t for FOX and the net.

Herb on September 21, 2009 at 9:48 PM

Excellent point AP! Finally, StoneKrab gets vindication, lol. I said the exact same thing on the Chris Wallace thread and got beat up for it…I’m guess I’m not that “moronic” after all. Cheers.

StoneKrab on September 21, 2009 at 10:03 PM

I see a few people are misinterpreting what Allah Pundit meant by cheerleading.

There is a youtube video out that shows a Fox producer directing a crowd to cheer. Allah wasn’t criticizing that fox was talking positively about the protests he was criticizing that they were actively “directing” that is telling people what to do for the cameras.
There is a big difference between filming what happening and then saying positive things about it (News with Commentary) and directing a shot like a movie (Propaganda).
Fox crossed that line.

I recommend anyone who is confused google the video. You see Fox telling people what to cheer. (ie. Cheerleading….or making news instead of reporting it).

IIt is a violation of the viewers trust. Fox manipulated the crowd and it manipulated it’s viewers by making them think that those cheers from the crowd where sponataneous when really they were just following what fox told them to do.

It’s a disgustingingly unethical thing to do when you get down to it.

DustyGreen on September 21, 2009 at 10:27 PM

Don’t let your jealousy of Beck eat you alive, Allah.

notagool on September 21, 2009 at 6:27 PM

and THAT my friends, THAT’S what it’s all about! ::tadahhhhh::
nailed it.

I_C on September 21, 2009 at 10:28 PM

So Fox organized the rally now? I only hope and pray that Joe actually has the ego to try and run for something in 2010 or 2012. Talk about out of touch! Hey Joe, what do you think of your colleagues Olby and Matthews?
What an ass clown.

JeffinOrlando on September 21, 2009 at 10:36 PM

So Fox organized the rally now? I only hope and pray that Joe actually has the ego to try and run for something in 2010 or 2012. Talk about out of touch! Hey Joe, what do you think of your colleagues Olby and Matthews?
What an ass clown.

JeffinOrlando on September 21, 2009 at 10:36 PM

uhhhhh…yes. This was the introduction of the 9/12 project. Please let go of Fox…they lie. BUNCHES.

StoneKrab on September 21, 2009 at 10:41 PM

I can’t believe I’m agreeing with points made by Allahpundit and MSNBC analysts. This is a first.

2Brave2Bscared on September 22, 2009 at 2:40 AM

The approach ought to be not that Obama is being pissy and juvenile in avoiding Fox News – - it ought to be that Fox News does not have its reporters’ questions pre-screened by the administration before sending The One out before the cameras. Fox News is not for sale! The other networks’ human capital is at such a low ebb, that even though they may not have pre-submitted their softball questions, the impression will tightly stick to them because it is what people expect they would do – - thus they do it. Right or wrong. And when Obama eventually puts out the olive branch, smack him over the head with it: We don’t want you here.

kens on September 22, 2009 at 9:47 AM

The Won and his handlers want an us vs. them attitude. That is how he was elected with an I’m not Bush campaign. He’s still in campaign mode and hopes it will help dems get reelected everywhere they run. Their problem is that the American people don’t like the smell of what Barack is cooking.

Kissmygrits on September 22, 2009 at 10:05 AM

IMO Obama will not leave the cocoon of sychophantic lefty interviews because he cannot handle real questions without showing he is the empty suit that most of us realize already. He is also a coward and a bully with a bad case of paranoia and narscissism….this guy is doomed, he has wasted the most important first 100 days of his tenure and it will accelerate down from here. Bad moon is arising…even AP knows this about BO but will never say so.

el Vaquero on September 22, 2009 at 1:26 PM

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