Did the “full Ginsburg” work?
posted at 9:30 am on September 21, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
The Beltway media crowd had marveled this weekend over Barack Obama’s interview tour de force, appearing on five Sunday talk shows in pre-taped segments with different hosts. The President appeared on all of the networks except for Fox News, indicating that Chris Wallace’s assessment of the White House as “the biggest bunch of crybabies” was probably accurate. Obama got plenty of real estate on the tube this weekend in doing his “full Ginsburg,” but was it effective? Did Obama make a better argument for health-care reform?
Howard Kurtz says it was the same old song once again:
Sure, this is a president who has dissected basketball brackets on ESPN, gone for burgers with Brian Williams, showed Steve Kroft his swing set, dissed Kanye West (off the record) with CNBC and ordered a general to shave Stephen Colbert’s head. By that standard, Obama’s Sunday blitz was a mere throat-clearing that, as it turned out, produced little in the way of big news. And some journalists — even as they continue to clamor for access — say he is diluting the product. …
So did Obama score?
While the White House plan was for Obama to focus primarily on health care and Afghanistan, he broke no new ground on either subject, repeating points he has made many times. Some topics varied — “State of the Union” host John King asked about North Korea; “This Week” host George Stephanopoulos asked about the ACORN scandal — but the game plans were strikingly similar.
This has been the problem with Obama for the last several months. He keeps demanding access to valuable television time, which politicians usually do when they have something new to say. Obama then uses either prime time or Sunday political talk shows to say essentially the same thing he’s been saying since April on health-care reform. It’s as if the White House and Obama just can’t comprehend that people won’t swallow the party line without question, and instead of recalculating the bill or their approach, simply turn up the volume.
This runs the real risk of exposing Obama as an empty suit. Most politicians find ways to win debates by adjusting or creating new, compelling arguments for their position. Obama hasn’t had a new idea in months, really ever since Inauguration Day. He’s playing a game of gotcha with the broadcasters in demanding all of this time, and showing up with nothing at all original. Audiences have already begun to notice, and after this circus act that tied up their top-rank interviewers for 15-minute meetups on Friday, the broadcasters will begin to tire of the circus soon enough.
When Obama first launched his campaign, I described him as someone who impressed me as a mile wide and an inch deep. Obama is a raconteur who can have good dinner conversation on a wide variety of topics, but once you scratch the surface, would be exposed as having little knowledge of any beyond slogans and populist groupthink. His inability to rebut arguments and to produce new strategies, as well as his appalling lack of understanding of competition and the free market, corroborates my initial analysis.
Update: I’m not the only one reaching the “mile wide, inch deep” conclusion. Edward Lucas writes in yesterday’s London Telegraph that Obama looks seriously out of his depth:
Regimes in Moscow, Pyongyang and Tehran simply pocket his concessions and carry on as before. The picture emerging from the White House is a disturbing one, of timidity, clumsiness and short-term calculation. Some say he is the weakest president since Jimmy Carter.
The grizzled veterans of the Democratic leadership in Congress have found Mr Obama and his team of bright young advisers a pushover. That has gravely weakened his flagship domestic campaign, for health-care reform, which fails to address the greatest weakness of the American system: its inflated costs. His free trade credentials are increasingly tarnished too. His latest blunder is imposing tariffs on tyre imports from China, in the hope of gaining a little more union support for health care. But at a time when America’s leadership in global economic matters has never been more vital, that is a dreadful move, hugely undermining its ability to stop other countries engaging in a ruinous spiral of protectionism.
Even good moves are ruined by bad presentation. Changing Mr Bush’s costly and untried missile-defence scheme for something workable was sensible. But offensively casual treatment of east European allies such as Poland made it easy for his critics to portray it as naïve appeasement of the regime in Moscow. …
The man who has run nothing more demanding than the Harvard Law Review is beginning to look out of his depth in the world’s top job. His credibility is seeping away, and it will require concrete achievements rather than more soaring oratory to recover it.









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No. Watch his poll numbers to continue to do the full nosedive
elduende on September 21, 2009 at 9:34 AM
looser.
SHARPTOOTH on September 21, 2009 at 9:34 AM
There is a man who just loves the sound of his own voice.
cibolo on September 21, 2009 at 9:34 AM
Obama did nothing but preach the same tired old rhetoric to his parasitic constituents and the rest of the Kool Aid crowd while his hand puppets the mainstream media, grinned, drooled and fell all over themselves.
rplat on September 21, 2009 at 9:35 AM
I was too busy watching the falcons and 49ers win.
stackedeck on September 21, 2009 at 9:36 AM
you nailed it.
sarainitaly on September 21, 2009 at 9:36 AM
If Howard Kurtz really wanted to do some media analysis, his article would have been on how Andrew Breitbart kicked the dinosuar media’s butt last week. Instead we have a dinosaur analyzing the other dinosaurs. It’s so boring.
BigD on September 21, 2009 at 9:37 AM
Wimp pulpit.
ElectricPhase on September 21, 2009 at 9:37 AM
Great post! I didnt watch any of him… I thought big Bertha more important, than Obummah. I see I dint miss anything.
becki51758 on September 21, 2009 at 9:37 AM
Community.Organizer.
NickelAndDime on September 21, 2009 at 9:37 AM
Obama has lost traction and can’t get it back no matter how high he revs the engine
DarkCurrent on September 21, 2009 at 9:37 AM
QOTD
stackedeck on September 21, 2009 at 9:37 AM
Wow.
So presidential :o/
cntrlfrk on September 21, 2009 at 9:38 AM
But wait, there’s more.
The losers Billy Mays.
there it is on September 21, 2009 at 9:39 AM
Just had to add that this was the epitome of throwing a bucket of dung at the wall to see what would stick.
rplat on September 21, 2009 at 9:39 AM
-8 Rasmussen
Key West Reader on September 21, 2009 at 9:39 AM
So what your saying Ed, in a nice way is that Obama is a bullsh!t artist. And no his infomercials are not gonna work.
MDWNJ on September 21, 2009 at 9:39 AM
His biggest problem on Health Care right now is that the American people are informed. We’ve seen the plans and have soundly rejected them.
President Obama needs to go back to start over. Go back to the drawing board. No more rhetoric or gloss without actual numbers on how you plan to pay for this to back things up. Until you do that you can hit 5 shows a day and it won’t make a difference.
BadgerHawk on September 21, 2009 at 9:39 AM
epic meat puppet fail
Ris4victory on September 21, 2009 at 9:39 AM
If overexposure runs the risk of revealing Obama as the empty suit I always knew he was, having lived in Chicago for 14 years, it’s working. He’s as clueless and inexperienced as anyone who EVER held presidential office, as each successive day proves.
This is what happens when people hire a man with no executive background at any level, with no accomplishments beyond continuously and vacuously babbling hopenchange.
Expect more of the same, and another 1,500 speeches over the next three plus years, for reading a TelePrompTer displaying other people’s words is all he knows how to do.
bradley11 on September 21, 2009 at 9:41 AM
The only person who still thinks that Obama can convince people to eat his crap sandwich of a health care nationalization with speeches and cult-dear-leader figure omnipresence is… Barak Obama.
wildcat84 on September 21, 2009 at 9:41 AM
Repeat a lie often enough…
BadgerHawk on September 21, 2009 at 9:41 AM
Isn’t he on Letterman tonight? Another Bozo show I won’t be watching.
BTW, the email that the White House sent to Fox News about why they were snubbed sounded like a 5-year-old wrote it. These people truely are an embarassement.
txag92 on September 21, 2009 at 9:42 AM
“As I’ve always said….”
“I’ve been entirely consistent…”
“Let me be perfectly clear….”
repeat
“As I’ve always said…”
“I’ve been entirely consistent…”
yada yada
ted c on September 21, 2009 at 9:42 AM
It’s the full Ruth Bader Ginsburg — made me avoid the television.
BTW, Dear Leader isn’t able to keep track of a community organization that He’s worked with in the past & has ties to, but is able to keep track of the New York Yankees? A team The One isn’t even a fan of?
rbj on September 21, 2009 at 9:43 AM
“The Full Ginsburg”
I have to admit there are some days I feel a little sorry for Monica Lewinsky.
She can get a million degrees from the London School of Economics, but no decent man is ever going to take her home to meet his mother.
BigD on September 21, 2009 at 9:44 AM
LOL. No kidding. The refs wear Obama jerseys.
Quell surprise! Why doesn’t the media try breaking new ground once in a while, then maybe Obama would have to break some new ground.
Dusty on September 21, 2009 at 9:44 AM
Other than the fact that he was elected president of the US, why would anyone want to have dinner with this chump? I see people like this all the time…always trying to sell themselves. I avoid people like this, not sit down to dinner with them. I like sitting down for dinner.
genso on September 21, 2009 at 9:44 AM
He’d be better off providing tax and business plan advice to pimps and prostitutes
PatriotRider on September 21, 2009 at 9:45 AM
Looser than what?
Daggett on September 21, 2009 at 9:45 AM
But, but he’s the one we’ve been waiting for!
He repeated this on his Obamathon TV blitz yesterday:
conservative pilgrim on September 21, 2009 at 9:46 AM
Obama-daddy to recalcitrant children:
If I’ve told you once, I’ve told you a thousand times:
Eat your peas!!!
Because I said so!
marybel on September 21, 2009 at 9:46 AM
One of my favorite TV shows is “Jeopardy.” Especially when the have Celebrities on. I wonder how Teh One would do there?? I’m sometimes surprised how some Celebrities play smart people on TV, but would lose if the were playing on “Teen” Jeopardy. Would Teh One win here??
ny59giants on September 21, 2009 at 9:48 AM
I’m starting to wonder if all those voters who supposedly voted for him,… well, maybe “each one” of them perhaps voted oh, 10 times each for him.
And maybe, just maybe, he wasn’t legitimately elected.
Just starting to wonder.
stenwin77 on September 21, 2009 at 9:48 AM
That quote bothers me. I don’t want Obama and his team to manufacture some new crisis or destroy what already works well in order to have a “concrete achievement.”
conservative pilgrim on September 21, 2009 at 9:49 AM
I’m sorry, Ed, but the only person I’ve seen Obama tell stories about are himself. How do you know he’s a good dinner conversationalist?
BigD on September 21, 2009 at 9:49 AM
Reminds me of the American tourist I witnessed in a little town in the Czech Republic, asking the non-English speaking train station attendant where to catch his ride.
He just kept saying it louder and louder as if the Czech guy would finally understand “I need the train to Plzen…I SAID I NEED THE TRAIN TO PLZEN…IIII SSSAAAAIIIIDDD IIIII NEEEEEDDD TTTHHHEEE TRRAAAAAAIIIIIN…
Bishop on September 21, 2009 at 9:49 AM
I didn’t watch any of the shows, so I’ll ask here. On how many of the shows was he asked about the protests and the racist context that’s been promoted by the Media? And on how many shows was he asked about ACORN?
Dusty on September 21, 2009 at 9:50 AM
That caught my eye too. That type of journalism is down right dangerous.
WashJeff on September 21, 2009 at 9:50 AM
Overexposed? “Obama Joins Cast of Real World D.C. to Completely Saturate TV Broadcast Schedule” http://optoons.blogspot.com/2009/09/obama-joins-cast-of-real-world-dc-to.html
Mervis Winter on September 21, 2009 at 9:50 AM
OT, but strange: Got this in my e-mail, not a Dem, never signed up for any lists or alerts, WFT?
Alden Pyle on September 21, 2009 at 9:50 AM
When you’ve fooled over half the country into voting for you on nothing more than a stupid slogan, blathering bullsh!t in every speech and blaming an unpopular scapegoat, it’s not a stretch to think you can fool them again and again with the same.
Monica on September 21, 2009 at 9:51 AM
Refining the quote (thanks to the writing staff of Angel):
“Scratch the surface and what do you find? More surface.”
NeighborhoodCatLady on September 21, 2009 at 9:52 AM
Paris Hilton has more media savvy than Obama. Even she knew to lay low after being completely overexposed as the world’s biggest bimbo.
sherry on September 21, 2009 at 9:52 AM
Obama did not move the ball this weekend. As far as articulating the benifit of a Government healthcare program and providing specifics, he did neither.
I feel like I may know more about healthcare than Obama, I I really don’t know squat.
To sum it up, his plan will “throw the baby out with the bathwater”.
saiga on September 21, 2009 at 9:53 AM
The purpose of this circus act was the polls.
Watch to see if Obama gets a bump in his rating this week.
I think the White House believes that the more people see Obama the higher his ratings go. They are after positive ratings to give him credibility.
albill on September 21, 2009 at 9:53 AM
Already done… HopeandChange is just a one trick pony… And the trick has gotten old and stale…
Khun Joe on September 21, 2009 at 9:54 AM
The resounding chorus from campfires around the nation:
“Next verse. Same as the first. A little bit louder and a little bit worse…”
LEBA on September 21, 2009 at 9:54 AM
At least he’s perfectly clear.
TexasDan on September 21, 2009 at 9:54 AM
What would a missle defense system have to do to escape the label “untried?” Stop a real missle attack? That’s a bit too late.
What a lot of people don’t understand about weapon systems such as missle defense or any type of WMD is that they are political weapons, not military weapons. They have value only as long as they exist (or are believed to exist), and are not used.
NeighborhoodCatLady on September 21, 2009 at 9:54 AM
Obama is a totalitarian socialist. He’s using the tactics that have proven very effective in the last decade and ultimately have gotten him elected; hammer the same points over and over again until it sticks, ridicule and demonize the opposition, etc. There are several of Alinsky’s rules at work here.
The Obamacrats still control all branches of government. They still have the MSM on their side. They still have a trillion in tax dollars at their disposal. The Obamacrats understand that as long as elections are framed as conservative vs liberal, they can convince the libertarian-independent middle 40% to split their way.
And nothing will change in that respect, because apparently it is still taboo to call Obama what he is, a socialist.
modifiedcontent on September 21, 2009 at 9:55 AM
Where’s the Beef ?
J_Crater on September 21, 2009 at 9:56 AM
That ship has already left port, Captain.
hillbillyjim on September 21, 2009 at 9:56 AM
Joseph Goebbeles excelled at this kind of “journalism”…
Khun Joe on September 21, 2009 at 9:57 AM
My husband’s 85 year old parents were talking about medicare. Even at their advanced age, they know adding another 30, 40 million people to the program and cutting out 500 million bucks will mean even worse service and lots of rationing.
Obama isn’t fooling the old folks, that’s for sure. They know basic math. They aren’t STUPID, and feel rightfully insulted.
marybel on September 21, 2009 at 9:57 AM
I’m not the only one reaching the “mile wide, inch deep” conclusion.
He’s lLike a parking lot in Orlando FL after an aftertoon squall…
Shivas Irons on September 21, 2009 at 9:57 AM
There’s a quote attributed to Helen Keller:
“College isn’t the place to go for ideas.”
Where has Obama ever developed his ideas except in college. For me, as an independant thinker, Obama gets an “F”.
Paul-Cincy on September 21, 2009 at 9:57 AM
The problem is he has no plan other then to force socialized medicine on working people that don’t want it. The fifty percent of people not paying taxes want the free ride and the trust fund socialists know they have the money to pay for excellent care no matter what piece of crap Obozo signs.
This is all strictly for his own entertainment now.
DeweyWins on September 21, 2009 at 9:57 AM
It’s one thing to pre-empt re-runs but once the networks start their shows it will be interesting to see how willing they are to give Obama free time to campaign.
katiejane on September 21, 2009 at 9:57 AM
Not to differ too much, but missle defense may also be useful even if it has to be used.
DarkCurrent on September 21, 2009 at 9:58 AM
OBAMAPALOOZA: Once again, EPIC fail.
milwife88 on September 21, 2009 at 9:58 AM
I never watch adverts.
OldEnglish on September 21, 2009 at 9:58 AM
And this article repeats what we commenters have been saying for about a year and a half.
Cybergeezer on September 21, 2009 at 9:59 AM
He is a good speaker – with the aid of a teleprompter. End of story. End of qualifications as a leader and president.
Obama is both clueless and a liar. He dismisses the ACORN debacle as a minor distraction. He trusts the Russians, something no other president has done. He believes he can hypnotize us into buying his health care baloney by putting his mug in front of a camera on a daily basis.
Everything about him reminds me of a naive middle school student.
fogw on September 21, 2009 at 10:00 AM
I had my finger on the mute button during the Vikings game as I kept expecting him to be in the booth.
Didn’t see one second of his blabbing – I consider that a Sunday well spent.
gophergirl on September 21, 2009 at 10:00 AM
I wonder what “jokes” Loserman will make about the Hussein daughter(s) being at a baseball game …
txrmctague on September 21, 2009 at 10:02 AM
The silence about what he said on any of the programs is telling.
Vashta.Nerada on September 21, 2009 at 10:02 AM
Remember McCain and amnesty? Frank Lundz showed that the more McCain talked, the lower the needle would go. Same deal with Obama.
I think it was not smart to hit 5 talk shows and say the same thing and use the same phrases on all three. “Catnip to a cat, some voted against me caus I was black, and others voted for me cause I’m black”, etc. I watched all 3 network broadcasts, and they were all the same with nothing at all new.
I too am beginning to wonder about this guy. It looks like he may be Memorex.
saiga on September 21, 2009 at 10:02 AM
What the hell is a “tyre”? Heh, those brits write funny stuff.
RobD on September 21, 2009 at 10:02 AM
Every team we play knows that our QB has never even practiced, let alone played a down.
Akzed on September 21, 2009 at 10:02 AM
more like a micron deep
notagool on September 21, 2009 at 10:05 AM
Call Them Out is the snitch program from the white house, under new management.
Vashta.Nerada on September 21, 2009 at 10:06 AM
I’m gonna go out on a limb before reading this and guess that Ed doesn’t think so.
crr6 on September 21, 2009 at 10:07 AM
He’s so smart he can only speak in high-level terms.
/sarc
SouthernGent on September 21, 2009 at 10:08 AM
How true. He needed to spend a couple of years on a shovel at a cement mixer, or on the sledge hammer to understand giving his hard earned pay away to someone on the couch that doesn’t disserve it is different than spending someone elses money.
saiga on September 21, 2009 at 10:08 AM
Got that right, Ed. My question is who will be that person who makes the observation that all except those taking Kool-Aid intravenously finally acknowledge–the emperor has no clothes.
People need to stop accepting the meme that Obama is a really smart guy. He reads well. Period. And I don’t even like his reading, frankly. But he really doesn’t know what he’s talking about. Today, the a**hats on Morning Joe were lamenting the fact that such a great communicator cannot offer a clear explanation about healthcare. Hello. Maybe he can’t, because he doesn’t understand all the factors involved and all that he’s interested in is a far-left, social-engineering scheme for healthcare.
BuckeyeSam on September 21, 2009 at 10:09 AM
Way to take a chance.
BadgerHawk on September 21, 2009 at 10:09 AM
The irony here is that, having been praised by the big media for two years as the greatest orator in human history with a brain so smart that it’s amazing it can fit into his skull, the Obama people have come to believe that’s all that’s needed to win their arguments — simply have Barack state his case over and over and over again, and have the media sing about the magnificence of his arguments, and there you go, because it worked during the general election.
There is no Plan B — or at least, there’s no Plan B that wouldn’t require at least 75-100 of the least liberal Democrats in Congress to pretty much sacrifice their careers to get passed, despite what Obama, Harry, Nancy and the other Dems either in safe House seats or not up for Senate re-election in 2010 want them to do. And since Obama is scared to death to do anything to antagonize his far left base within the Democratic Party, there is no way to come up with a modified health care plan that could actually pass in Congress.
jon1979 on September 21, 2009 at 10:09 AM
Obama reminds me of Charles Van Doren from the movie Quiz Show. He looks good. Sounds good. Says all the right things for a while. Everyone loved him. Then the world found out how he cheated. He was still being given a pass by some people just b/c of who he was, but most of the public was appalled. He is a slick, lying, cheating scumbag! And now everyone knows it.
JAM on September 21, 2009 at 10:09 AM
0bama… The Ryan Leaf of the political world…
Wolftech on September 21, 2009 at 10:12 AM
At this point, it will be hard for Obama to shake that image. It is true that the more you know about something, the more you don’t know. Maybe Obama is keeping it simple?
saiga on September 21, 2009 at 10:12 AM
And once Obama starts yammering, the bulls**t, not the depth of his analysis, gets a mile deep.
BuckeyeSam on September 21, 2009 at 10:12 AM
Actually, that one is a new lie. Previously Obama had stated that the missile technology to be used was mature. After all, if it’s able to protect Alaska, why not Europe?
Oh, I forget — Obama’s main adversary lives in Alaska. My fail…
unclesmrgol on September 21, 2009 at 10:12 AM
I didn’t know our fair governor could get anyone that riled up.
Too funny! Pawlenty is a kitten compared to some GOPers.
gophergirl on September 21, 2009 at 10:12 AM
Notice how Jen Dillon attributes ‘death panels’ to Pawlenty?
Scared of mentioning Sarah’s name, are you Jen?
Lanceman on September 21, 2009 at 10:12 AM
Lame duck by Christmas…wonderful gift.
Rogue on September 21, 2009 at 10:13 AM
Entirely true, but prevention of an attack is a political use of a missle defense system, not a military use.
Once used, the nature of the system changes, just as Hiroshima defined perception of nuclear weapons. If the defense system succeeds, there is one new perception. If it fails, there is a different new perception. If in succeeding, it scatters nuclear debris from incoming missles over large areas of land, there is yet a third new perception. A partial success risks the worst of all possible perceptions.
Again, we’re back to the first principle, deterence. Better to have the system in place, while building a track record of successful tests. Obambi wants to throw it all away, both deterence and real defense.
NeighborhoodCatLady on September 21, 2009 at 10:14 AM
Guys like OReilly are still up in the air on whether or not he’s weak, but he sure is one thing, that’s for sure—and that is he’s “perfectly clear”….
ted c on September 21, 2009 at 10:14 AM
Kudos to you on this analysis, Ed, made while some pretty serious thinkers continued to view Obama as a considerable intellect, including Allah. He is not, of course. The Emperor is naked and having another cigarette.
Jaibones on September 21, 2009 at 10:15 AM
Marty DiBergi: Why don’t you just make ten louder and make ten be the top number and make that a little louder?
Nigel Tufnel: [pause] These go to eleven.
BKeyser on September 21, 2009 at 10:16 AM
Funny that you should mention that …
OldEnglish on September 21, 2009 at 10:19 AM
Gee, who could have seen this coming?
Besides pretty much everyone who regularly comments on this site.
Why do I need the New York Times, the Washington Post, ABC News, NBC News, etc., when I know more than they do?
It’s that simple.
NoDonkey on September 21, 2009 at 10:19 AM
ny59giants on September 21, 2009 at 9:48 AM
…………………………. :o) …………………….
ziggyville on September 21, 2009 at 10:21 AM
Everybody knows what the shuck and jive act is now, it no longer works.
tarpon on September 21, 2009 at 10:22 AM
As stated on another post, he can’t deliver the goods off-script. He brought nothing new to the table. Thin resume, thin experience, thin-skinned president. Its a “Jimmah Carter, the sequel”. I was unimpressed with the first Jimmah and I am even more unimpressed with the sequel.
jbh45 on September 21, 2009 at 10:22 AM
Why don’t we just give BO his own reality tv show where he can “play” POTUS with perfectly scripted lauding and success and find somebody else to be the President?
After all, he really is more of a reality tv star rather than a Chief Executive and it would satisfy his narcissistic need for near-continuous attention and praise. Win/win for everyone involved…..
JoeinTX on September 21, 2009 at 10:24 AM
Most of us knew early on that he was an empty suit on a hanger built from favorable media coverage.
Every day, he gives us new examples of how right we were.
hawksruleva on September 21, 2009 at 10:25 AM
After Obama’s done with it, the President’s “Bully Pulpit” will be meaningless.
roux on September 21, 2009 at 10:27 AM
Two Comments:
1) Greek columns are a must.
2) The show would be cancelled due to poor ratings.
NickelAndDime on September 21, 2009 at 10:27 AM
Boy oh boy, Sarah Palin having those nuclear codes sent Hollywood morons into a tizzy — are they really happy with this neophyte in office?
Embarrassing.
Richard Romano on September 21, 2009 at 10:27 AM
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