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	<title>Comments on: BaucusCare raising taxes in two ways</title>
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		<title>By: Hard Starboard</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/21/baucuscare-raising-taxes-in-two-ways/comment-page-2/#comment-2805462</link>
		<dc:creator>Hard Starboard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 05:45:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Health Wars (10/6/09)...&lt;/strong&gt;

Whenever Barack Obama tells us that something &quot;can&#039;t be done,&quot; take that as prima facie evidence that his heart isn&#039;t in it.&#160; Because when something really can&#039;t be done that he wants with all his flinty, black heart, he&#039;ll pursue......</description>
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<p>Whenever Barack Obama tells us that something &#8220;can&#8217;t be done,&#8221; take that as prima facie evidence that his heart isn&#8217;t in it.&nbsp; Because when something really can&#8217;t be done that he wants with all his flinty, black heart, he&#8217;ll pursue&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: When A Tax is Not A Tax: President Obama Joins Orwellian World of Colorado Democrats &#124; statehousecall.org</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/21/baucuscare-raising-taxes-in-two-ways/comment-page-2/#comment-2780154</link>
		<dc:creator>When A Tax is Not A Tax: President Obama Joins Orwellian World of Colorado Democrats &#124; statehousecall.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 20:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This weekend, President Obama told George Staphanopoulos that the Baucus excise tax is really not a tax because to say you &quot;have to take a responsibility to get health insurance is absolutely not a tax increase.&quot; [link] [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This weekend, President Obama told George Staphanopoulos that the Baucus excise tax is really not a tax because to say you &quot;have to take a responsibility to get health insurance is absolutely not a tax increase.&quot; [link] [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Shockwave</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/21/baucuscare-raising-taxes-in-two-ways/comment-page-2/#comment-2741037</link>
		<dc:creator>Shockwave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 03:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;OBAMA: No. That’s not true, George. The — for us to say that you’ve got to take a responsibility to get health insurance is absolutely not a tax increase. &lt;strong&gt;What it’s saying is, is that we’re not going to have other people carrying your burdens for you&lt;/strong&gt;...&lt;/blockquote&gt;

If that&#039;s truly how you feel, Mr. President, then how do you reconcile that with your goal of wealth redistribution?  Before you answer, remember that you were the one who just championed individual responsibility.

On a related note, I remember a while back hearing some compare Obama to Reagan, saying he is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/01/the-great-communicator_n_130760.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Great Communicator&lt;/a&gt;.  I think it&#039;s more like &quot;The Great Prevaricator.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>OBAMA: No. That’s not true, George. The — for us to say that you’ve got to take a responsibility to get health insurance is absolutely not a tax increase. <strong>What it’s saying is, is that we’re not going to have other people carrying your burdens for you</strong>&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>If that&#8217;s truly how you feel, Mr. President, then how do you reconcile that with your goal of wealth redistribution?  Before you answer, remember that you were the one who just championed individual responsibility.</p>
<p>On a related note, I remember a while back hearing some compare Obama to Reagan, saying he is <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/01/the-great-communicator_n_130760.html" rel="nofollow">The Great Communicator</a>.  I think it&#8217;s more like &#8220;The Great Prevaricator.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: njpat</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/21/baucuscare-raising-taxes-in-two-ways/comment-page-2/#comment-2740932</link>
		<dc:creator>njpat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 03:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The man that can&#039;t commit to cutting off funding to corrupt Acorn will be able to cut enough fraud from medicare to insure the entire population?  Yeah, right.

The SEIU is already trying to organize healthcare workers throughout the nation...and they&#039;ll succeed, when they get card check and there is no real vote by workers.

Wanna bet Acorn will have their hands out to help the less fortunate enroll in Obamacare?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The man that can&#8217;t commit to cutting off funding to corrupt Acorn will be able to cut enough fraud from medicare to insure the entire population?  Yeah, right.</p>
<p>The SEIU is already trying to organize healthcare workers throughout the nation&#8230;and they&#8217;ll succeed, when they get card check and there is no real vote by workers.</p>
<p>Wanna bet Acorn will have their hands out to help the less fortunate enroll in Obamacare?</p>
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		<title>By: We don't need no stinkin' badges - Pinkie</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/21/baucuscare-raising-taxes-in-two-ways/comment-page-2/#comment-2739046</link>
		<dc:creator>We don't need no stinkin' badges - Pinkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 22:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Badges, we don&#039;t need no stinkin&#039; badges...&lt;/strong&gt;

Hey Luke, what&#039;s your dirt doing in the bosses hole?

More movie quotes on this? There&#039;s got to something from Dr. Zhivago, Alec Guinesses character must say SOMETHING like this - oooh but we have to be quiet about that. People won&#039;t think we&#039;re ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Badges, we don&#8217;t need no stinkin&#8217; badges&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Hey Luke, what&#8217;s your dirt doing in the bosses hole?</p>
<p>More movie quotes on this? There&#8217;s got to something from Dr. Zhivago, Alec Guinesses character must say SOMETHING like this &#8211; oooh but we have to be quiet about that. People won&#8217;t think we&#8217;re &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: warden</title>
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		<dc:creator>warden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 18:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Using a dictionary makes your argument weak.&quot; - B.Obama 2009&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8220;Using a dictionary makes your argument weak.&#8221; &#8211; B.Obama 2009</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: HR3200: Tax On Individuals Without Acceptable Coverage &#187; cb.blog</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/21/baucuscare-raising-taxes-in-two-ways/comment-page-2/#comment-2737310</link>
		<dc:creator>HR3200: Tax On Individuals Without Acceptable Coverage &#187; cb.blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 17:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Oh, and by the way, it&#8217;s in the Baucus Senate bill, too.) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: hawksruleva</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/21/baucuscare-raising-taxes-in-two-ways/comment-page-2/#comment-2737049</link>
		<dc:creator>hawksruleva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 16:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;you can choose not to drive and thereby do not have to purchase auto insurance. That’s the BIG difference. With Obama care the only thing you can choose not to do to not have to purchase it would be LIVE.

katablog.com on September 21, 2009 at 11:37 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And auto insurance&#039;s role is to protect people from drivers who can hurt you. Health insurance is protecting you from yourself.

Also, auto insurance doesn&#039;t cover gas &amp; oil changes, or new rims and paint, or even a new transmission when the old one goes bad. It only covers a catastrophic event.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>you can choose not to drive and thereby do not have to purchase auto insurance. That’s the BIG difference. With Obama care the only thing you can choose not to do to not have to purchase it would be LIVE.</p>
<p>katablog.com on September 21, 2009 at 11:37 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>And auto insurance&#8217;s role is to protect people from drivers who can hurt you. Health insurance is protecting you from yourself.</p>
<p>Also, auto insurance doesn&#8217;t cover gas &amp; oil changes, or new rims and paint, or even a new transmission when the old one goes bad. It only covers a catastrophic event.</p>
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		<title>By: hawksruleva</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/21/baucuscare-raising-taxes-in-two-ways/comment-page-2/#comment-2737039</link>
		<dc:creator>hawksruleva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 16:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>George S. is in such an unenviable position. Here he is interviewing the man he worships, and he can&#039;t find a question that doesn&#039;t make Obama look like either a moron or a liar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George S. is in such an unenviable position. Here he is interviewing the man he worships, and he can&#8217;t find a question that doesn&#8217;t make Obama look like either a moron or a liar.</p>
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		<title>By: J_Crater</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/21/baucuscare-raising-taxes-in-two-ways/comment-page-2/#comment-2737005</link>
		<dc:creator>J_Crater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 16:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s right there on page 29 of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://finance.senate.gov/sitepages/leg/LEG%202009/091609%20Americas_Healthy_Future_Act.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Baucus bill&lt;/a&gt; ..
&lt;b&gt;Excise Tax. The consequence for not maintaining insurance would be an excise tax.&lt;/b&gt;

I&#039;m just sick to death of our President acting like the buffoon (&lt;i&gt;that is an act .. isn&#039;t it ?&lt;/i&gt;).
Clearly he doesn&#039;t even know what&#039;s in these bills, so obviously none of these bills are his plan, which remains as amorphous as ever in a permanent state of &quot;&lt;i&gt;vaporware&lt;/i&gt;&quot;.  

Obama&#039;s inability to put pen to paper to communicate his plan really makes one wonder if those rumours of &lt;i&gt;Bill Ayers writing Obama&#039;s books&lt;/i&gt; are true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s right there on page 29 of the <a href="http://finance.senate.gov/sitepages/leg/LEG%202009/091609%20Americas_Healthy_Future_Act.pdf" rel="nofollow">Baucus bill</a> ..<br />
<b>Excise Tax. The consequence for not maintaining insurance would be an excise tax.</b></p>
<p>I&#8217;m just sick to death of our President acting like the buffoon (<i>that is an act .. isn&#8217;t it ?</i>).<br />
Clearly he doesn&#8217;t even know what&#8217;s in these bills, so obviously none of these bills are his plan, which remains as amorphous as ever in a permanent state of &#8220;<i>vaporware</i>&#8220;.  </p>
<p>Obama&#8217;s inability to put pen to paper to communicate his plan really makes one wonder if those rumours of <i>Bill Ayers writing Obama&#8217;s books</i> are true.</p>
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		<title>By: taznar</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/21/baucuscare-raising-taxes-in-two-ways/comment-page-2/#comment-2736934</link>
		<dc:creator>taznar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 15:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;You and I are both paying $900, on average — our families — in higher premiums because of uncompensated care. &lt;/blockquote&gt;
Does that make sense? For the most part, my insurance company is negotiating better than &quot;average&quot; or &quot;standard&quot; reimbursements for care. I understand the idea of hospitals passing on the costs of those who can&#039;t pay, but I&#039;m pretty sure I&#039;m not paying much for it in my premiums. I know I am with some of my charitable donations and with part of my tax money though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>You and I are both paying $900, on average — our families — in higher premiums because of uncompensated care. </p></blockquote>
<p>Does that make sense? For the most part, my insurance company is negotiating better than &#8220;average&#8221; or &#8220;standard&#8221; reimbursements for care. I understand the idea of hospitals passing on the costs of those who can&#8217;t pay, but I&#8217;m pretty sure I&#8217;m not paying much for it in my premiums. I know I am with some of my charitable donations and with part of my tax money though.</p>
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		<title>By: katablog.com</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/21/baucuscare-raising-taxes-in-two-ways/comment-page-2/#comment-2736929</link>
		<dc:creator>katablog.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 15:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;batter on September 21, 2009 at 10:54 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt; you can choose not to drive and thereby do not have to purchase auto insurance. That&#039;s the BIG difference.  With Obama care the only thing you can choose not to do to not have to purchase it would be LIVE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>batter on September 21, 2009 at 10:54 AM</p></blockquote>
<p> you can choose not to drive and thereby do not have to purchase auto insurance. That&#8217;s the BIG difference.  With Obama care the only thing you can choose not to do to not have to purchase it would be LIVE.</p>
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		<title>By: batter</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/21/baucuscare-raising-taxes-in-two-ways/comment-page-2/#comment-2736920</link>
		<dc:creator>batter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 15:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Steve Z on September 21, 2009 at 11:18 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Well said!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Steve Z on September 21, 2009 at 11:18 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>Well said!</p>
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		<title>By: CynicalOptimist</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/21/baucuscare-raising-taxes-in-two-ways/comment-page-2/#comment-2736916</link>
		<dc:creator>CynicalOptimist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 15:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Want proof that he&#039;s still campaigning?  &lt;strong&gt;Freudian slip at 1:09.&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Want proof that he&#8217;s still campaigning?  <strong>Freudian slip at 1:09.</strong></p>
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		<title>By: WWS</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/21/baucuscare-raising-taxes-in-two-ways/comment-page-2/#comment-2736908</link>
		<dc:creator>WWS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 15:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s racist to call that fee a tax.  

Proof?  we don&#039; need no steenkin proof.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s racist to call that fee a tax.  </p>
<p>Proof?  we don&#8217; need no steenkin proof.</p>
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		<title>By: amr</title>
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		<dc:creator>amr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 15:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The economic freedom issues (i.e. mandatory health care requirement under government mandates) and civil liberties (i.e. IRS fee collection and our financial and doctors/hospital held medical records released to the government) remain in some form in the Baucus bill.  Do they think the American people are fools.  So for helping 8 or so million who can&#039;t afford insurance but may have expensive personal habits like smoking and drinking nor can they be covered under present government programs, we the people have to undergo a transition to mandated socialist health care.  Wonderful, just expletive deleted wonderful.

I am coming to the conclusion that nothing we have done to date has changed minds in congress over this impingement of our civil liberties and economic freedoms and therefore Americans must prepared to shut this congress down as was done in Tennessee after the governor and legislature proposed to vote in and approve a state income tax in 1999. Go to glennreynolds.com/?p=8 for some details. 

With the reported 26,000 TEA Party organizations in our great country, we could make life difficult for those cloistered in DC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The economic freedom issues (i.e. mandatory health care requirement under government mandates) and civil liberties (i.e. IRS fee collection and our financial and doctors/hospital held medical records released to the government) remain in some form in the Baucus bill.  Do they think the American people are fools.  So for helping 8 or so million who can&#8217;t afford insurance but may have expensive personal habits like smoking and drinking nor can they be covered under present government programs, we the people have to undergo a transition to mandated socialist health care.  Wonderful, just expletive deleted wonderful.</p>
<p>I am coming to the conclusion that nothing we have done to date has changed minds in congress over this impingement of our civil liberties and economic freedoms and therefore Americans must prepared to shut this congress down as was done in Tennessee after the governor and legislature proposed to vote in and approve a state income tax in 1999. Go to glennreynolds.com/?p=8 for some details. </p>
<p>With the reported 26,000 TEA Party organizations in our great country, we could make life difficult for those cloistered in DC.</p>
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		<title>By: Brat4life</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brat4life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 15:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First he wanted to go after the oil companies and their profits and that didn&#039;t work so he&#039;s going to try the health insurance companies. I think Zero has it in is mind he&#039;s going to get money from big company and he doesn&#039;t care which one. 

For all of those saying that he&#039;s going to tax us, in his eyes that isn&#039;t true, because it&#039;s a fine. Not a tax but a fine. It&#039;s 2 words spelled totally different and mean 2 different things. I have a feeling this is what the White House is thinking fine not a tax.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First he wanted to go after the oil companies and their profits and that didn&#8217;t work so he&#8217;s going to try the health insurance companies. I think Zero has it in is mind he&#8217;s going to get money from big company and he doesn&#8217;t care which one. </p>
<p>For all of those saying that he&#8217;s going to tax us, in his eyes that isn&#8217;t true, because it&#8217;s a fine. Not a tax but a fine. It&#8217;s 2 words spelled totally different and mean 2 different things. I have a feeling this is what the White House is thinking fine not a tax.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Z</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 15:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;What it’s saying is, is that we’re not going to have other people carrying your burdens for you anymore than the fact that right now everybody in America, just about, has to get auto insurance. Nobody considers that a tax increase.
People say to themselves, that is a fair way to make sure that if you hit my car, that I’m not covering all the costs.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Even Obama&#039;s car insurance analogy doesn&#039;t hold up. People are required to get LIABILITY insurance if they drive on public roads--meaning they are insured if they kill or injure someone ELSE with their car, or damage someone ELSE&#039;s car. 

People are NOT required to get COLLISION insurance, which covers damage to their OWN car in an accident which is their own fault. This is a person&#039;s own free decision, whether or not the value of their own car is worth the price of collision insurance, and people with older, less valuable cars tend to drop collision insurance. People also have the choice of not driving a car, and therefore not buying car insurance. 

State governments require auto liability insurance because driving a car can endanger other people, who need protection if one person&#039;s irresponsible driving injures another person. But how does a person who elects not to carry health insurance endanger anyone else, unless he/she gets a contagious disease? 

Besides, if someone gets hit by a bus, isn&#039;t that person&#039;s emergency care covered by the bus company&#039;s liability insurance? 

Obama SHOULD be an expert at this--how many people has he thrown under his bus?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>What it’s saying is, is that we’re not going to have other people carrying your burdens for you anymore than the fact that right now everybody in America, just about, has to get auto insurance. Nobody considers that a tax increase.<br />
People say to themselves, that is a fair way to make sure that if you hit my car, that I’m not covering all the costs.</p></blockquote>
<p>Even Obama&#8217;s car insurance analogy doesn&#8217;t hold up. People are required to get LIABILITY insurance if they drive on public roads&#8211;meaning they are insured if they kill or injure someone ELSE with their car, or damage someone ELSE&#8217;s car. </p>
<p>People are NOT required to get COLLISION insurance, which covers damage to their OWN car in an accident which is their own fault. This is a person&#8217;s own free decision, whether or not the value of their own car is worth the price of collision insurance, and people with older, less valuable cars tend to drop collision insurance. People also have the choice of not driving a car, and therefore not buying car insurance. </p>
<p>State governments require auto liability insurance because driving a car can endanger other people, who need protection if one person&#8217;s irresponsible driving injures another person. But how does a person who elects not to carry health insurance endanger anyone else, unless he/she gets a contagious disease? </p>
<p>Besides, if someone gets hit by a bus, isn&#8217;t that person&#8217;s emergency care covered by the bus company&#8217;s liability insurance? </p>
<p>Obama SHOULD be an expert at this&#8211;how many people has he thrown under his bus?</p>
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		<title>By: landshark</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/21/baucuscare-raising-taxes-in-two-ways/comment-page-2/#comment-2736847</link>
		<dc:creator>landshark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 15:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;First, this is absurd.  Rising prices are now a “tax” when it comes from a private-sector industry raising its prices in response to rising costs associated with technological advances and demand outstripping supply.  However, when Obama and Congress intend to hike energy prices by $1761 per household per year through direct government intervention into the energy market, that’s not a tax?&lt;/blockquote&gt;   

But Ed, remember that refinancing your mortgage is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWTMM6aERHM&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;like a tax cut&quot;&lt;/a&gt;, so it all balances out. 

Given the number of statements that are just plain wrong, I&#039;m actually starting to wonder if the President is actually a moron. Surely he can&#039;t be so addled that he thinks these things are true, can he? Increasing premiums are a tax hike, profits come off the top, I can get $4 trillion in savings by slowing cost growth... These were not remarks made off the cuff, they were prepared. And so I must ask:

Is he really that stupid, or does he just assume that everyone else is? I don&#039;t know which answer makes me feel better, frankly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>First, this is absurd.  Rising prices are now a “tax” when it comes from a private-sector industry raising its prices in response to rising costs associated with technological advances and demand outstripping supply.  However, when Obama and Congress intend to hike energy prices by $1761 per household per year through direct government intervention into the energy market, that’s not a tax?</p></blockquote>
<p>But Ed, remember that refinancing your mortgage is <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWTMM6aERHM" rel="nofollow">&#8220;like a tax cut&#8221;</a>, so it all balances out. </p>
<p>Given the number of statements that are just plain wrong, I&#8217;m actually starting to wonder if the President is actually a moron. Surely he can&#8217;t be so addled that he thinks these things are true, can he? Increasing premiums are a tax hike, profits come off the top, I can get $4 trillion in savings by slowing cost growth&#8230; These were not remarks made off the cuff, they were prepared. And so I must ask:</p>
<p>Is he really that stupid, or does he just assume that everyone else is? I don&#8217;t know which answer makes me feel better, frankly.</p>
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		<title>By: Please read bills before you defend them, Mr. President. - Moe_Lane&#8217;s blog - RedState</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/21/baucuscare-raising-taxes-in-two-ways/comment-page-2/#comment-2736803</link>
		<dc:creator>Please read bills before you defend them, Mr. President. - Moe_Lane&#8217;s blog - RedState</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 15:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] If this is a problem, don&#8217;t go on national television and give exclusive interviews. STEPHANOPOULOS: You were against the individual mandate&#8230; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] If this is a problem, don&#8217;t go on national television and give exclusive interviews. STEPHANOPOULOS: You were against the individual mandate&#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Moe Lane &#187; Please read bills before you defend them, Mr. President.</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/21/baucuscare-raising-taxes-in-two-ways/comment-page-2/#comment-2736787</link>
		<dc:creator>Moe Lane &#187; Please read bills before you defend them, Mr. President.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 15:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] If this is a problem, don&#8217;t go on national television and give exclusive interviews. STEPHANOPOULOS: You were against the individual mandate&#8230; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] If this is a problem, don&#8217;t go on national television and give exclusive interviews. STEPHANOPOULOS: You were against the individual mandate&#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: thirtypundit</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/21/baucuscare-raising-taxes-in-two-ways/comment-page-2/#comment-2736784</link>
		<dc:creator>thirtypundit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 15:03:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A tax which isn&#039;t a tax is as absurd today as &#039;spending cuts&#039; which were reductions in the rate of growth in 1994. George&#039;s interview was an attempt at a wake-up call.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A tax which isn&#8217;t a tax is as absurd today as &#8216;spending cuts&#8217; which were reductions in the rate of growth in 1994. George&#8217;s interview was an attempt at a wake-up call.</p>
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		<title>By: daesleeper</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/21/baucuscare-raising-taxes-in-two-ways/comment-page-2/#comment-2736779</link>
		<dc:creator>daesleeper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 15:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;e-pirate on September 21, 2009 at 8:59 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Be altruistic, put up your own capital and start a non-profit insurance company.  Don&#039;t expect me to pay for anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>e-pirate on September 21, 2009 at 8:59 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>Be altruistic, put up your own capital and start a non-profit insurance company.  Don&#8217;t expect me to pay for anything.</p>
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		<title>By: angryed</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/21/baucuscare-raising-taxes-in-two-ways/comment-page-2/#comment-2736752</link>
		<dc:creator>angryed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 14:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Health care premiums went up 5.5 percent last year, at a time when t&lt;strong&gt;he rest of the economy, inflation was actually negative&lt;/strong&gt;. So that is a huge bite out of people’s pockets.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Ugh yeah sure it is. If you exclude those items that nobody buys like food and electricity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Health care premiums went up 5.5 percent last year, at a time when t<strong>he rest of the economy, inflation was actually negative</strong>. So that is a huge bite out of people’s pockets.</p></blockquote>
<p>Ugh yeah sure it is. If you exclude those items that nobody buys like food and electricity.</p>
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		<title>By: GarandFan</title>
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		<dc:creator>GarandFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 14:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>er...ah...but...mmmm...ah....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>er&#8230;ah&#8230;but&#8230;mmmm&#8230;ah&#8230;.</p>
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