NFL Week 2 open thread
posted at 10:00 am on September 20, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
Well, I’m already feeling pretty darned good today, after Notre Dame’s escape from Michigan State yesterday, beating them at home for the first time since 1993. The game looked like it would be a replay from last week’s stunning loss in Michigan, but fortunately the Irish blitz panicked the Spartan QB into a bad decision at the end. I’m feeling so fortunate that I’m going to go out on a limb and … predict that the Steelers can beat the Bears today. All right, it’s not so much of a limb, not after the Jay Cutler era began in Chicago with four interceptions against a good-not-great Green Bay defense. I’ll pick the Steelers on the road 27-10, with Troy Polamalu’s absence for Pittsburgh hurting less than Brian Urlacher’s for Chicago.
Other picks to delight, annoy, and amuse:
- Minnesota – Detroit: Will Detroit win a game this year? Probably, but not this one. Vikings 28-7 over the Lions.
- Cincinnati – Green Bay: I think Cincinnati will be better this year than last, but Green Bay’s tough. They’ll make it close, but the Packers should beat the Bengals, 24-21. Tough way to start for the Bengals, with two road games. Didn’t the NFL think about their season last year?
- NY Giants – Dallas: The home opener for the Cowboys in their brand-new stadium. I’m hoping the Giants shellack them there, but the Giants barely got by a mediocre Redskins last week after opening up a big early lead. I’ll pick Dallas here by a TD, 35-28, but this may be the best game of the day.
- Carolina – Atlanta: I thought Carolina and Jake Delhomme would have shaken off what happened in the playoffs last year, but instead they gave Philly an encore last week. Atlanta isn’t as good as Philly, but they won’t need to be if the Panthers play like they did at home in their opener. I’m going to pick Atlanta, 23-14.
- New England – NY Jets: Mark Sanchez was impressive in his first week, and he plays at home against the Patriots. The Pats barely beat the Bills at home last week, and it took a really boneheaded decision by the Bills kick returner to deliver it. Tom Brady may shake off the rust, but the Pats defense looked a little suspect, too. I’ll pick the Jets to win this one in a surprise, 27-21.
I forgot the Steelers widget last week, but I won’t forget it this week. What are your picks?
Update: I also forgot to mention that I was 6-0 last week with my picks. Can’t remember the last time that happened …
Update II: I bet Rick Moran, and he won. The Steelers blew two field goal attempts in the final quarter and lost by three. That’s not going to win championships. The Bears looked much better today; my hat’s off to Cutler, who looked as good today as he looked bad last week.
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GO STEELERS!
Troy is out but the Bears have more injury problems.
Ben is just a little better than Cutler /s
CWforFreedom on September 20, 2009 at 10:05 AM
Seahawks may allow some points this week as they beat the 49ers in SF. Seahawks getting revenge over the Steelers in the Super Bowl would suit me just fine.
Ordinary1 on September 20, 2009 at 10:07 AM
NY GIANTS baby!
moonbatkiller on September 20, 2009 at 10:10 AM
I’m hoping the Chiefs get a win today. Actually favored by 3!
xiao_en on September 20, 2009 at 10:11 AM
I will be rooting for…. (see below)
ny59giants on September 20, 2009 at 10:12 AM
Will the Steelers have OBAMA 08 Playing?
I liked that bunch till their owner, long a comrade of local Demoron machine pols in the city and county, had to come out on a nationa stage and support The One. Like anyone cares about what he and his family of Kennedy wannabes thinks. And plugging The One as he accepted the Lombardi trophy was…priceless.
Although the clan has been wonderful in many ways over the years. And I mean that.
Anyway, the Bears play well against ‘the guys from a dying town with a defunct industry they still identify with’. They manhandled the Steelers in a memorable game before Singletary’s retirement. Really manhandled.
Big Ben may leave the game today. He’ll go down like Obamacare one of thses weeks. I just wish that the owner played QB. Ever notice how infrequently libs are on the firing line?
IlikedAUH2O on September 20, 2009 at 10:15 AM
Giants @ Dallas will be the best game of the day and I’d love to see the ‘boys smacked down at home, with ya ny59giants!!
Willie on September 20, 2009 at 10:15 AM
Go Cowboys! And Steeles! It was ALMOST a perfect Saturday in college ball.
My Gators smacked Lane Kiffin back to Knoxville, ESPN darlings USC got upset, if ONLY the Spartans had finished off the Fighting Used-To-Bes!
Gatordoug on September 20, 2009 at 10:15 AM
GO TITANS!!!!
powerpro on September 20, 2009 at 10:16 AM
Yahooo!!!! Woot!!! As A Bengals fan I’d like to say……………er..never mind………guess I’ll just read these threads this year…….
Ozprey on September 20, 2009 at 10:17 AM
With Urlacher?
The Steelers beat Chi town with Brian to start their run to Detroit. The game was in Pittsburgh. This contest is a toss-up.
IlikedAUH2O on September 20, 2009 at 10:19 AM
Go NYG. Nothing like seeing Jerry Jones be humiliated in his new playpen.
JammieWearingFool on September 20, 2009 at 10:20 AM
Go EAGLES!!!
Fishy.Gov on September 20, 2009 at 10:21 AM
Steelers owners big Obama fans. I wish them nothing but bad luck,
Jeff from WI on September 20, 2009 at 10:26 AM
(go rams.)
Nyog_of_the_Bog on September 20, 2009 at 10:26 AM
the 59 Giants are still playing? No where on my TV. Time machine anyone? /s
CWforFreedom on September 20, 2009 at 10:26 AM
Jeff you want to bet most NFL Players are not OBAMA fans?
CWforFreedom on September 20, 2009 at 10:27 AM
That’s be pretty cool.
Jeff from WI on September 20, 2009 at 10:27 AM
They probably are. I said OWNERS, and in fact, the could of kept their mouths shut even if they did support Obama.
Jeff from WI on September 20, 2009 at 10:29 AM
Thanks for jinxing the Jets, you bastard. Every time you pick my teams they lose.
Jazz Shaw on September 20, 2009 at 10:29 AM
GO GIANTS!!
The downside of the game is having to listen to Chris Collinsworth and Keith Olbermann. WHY?!!!
cubachi on September 20, 2009 at 10:30 AM
I love my team but here it goes.
Owen 18 baby……
Lions most popular player, Owen.
mechkiller_k on September 20, 2009 at 10:32 AM
Cutler sees receivers everywhere on the field, jersey color does not matter. Pittburgh will have at least two defensive touchdowns.
Peri Winkle on September 20, 2009 at 10:32 AM
Ummm, one week does not constitute a ‘roll’.
If after four weeks the Steelers, or anyone else for that matter, are still winning, then we can talk of this ‘roll’ you speak of.
catmman on September 20, 2009 at 10:34 AM
I just wonder which quarter the referees will see fit to decide the outcome of this week’s Raider game.
thomasaur on September 20, 2009 at 10:35 AM
Jets always play New England tough. I think Ed is right on this pick.
Wish I could see that Saints-Iggles game, should be fun to watch, but it’s blacked out here in New England due to the Pats game. Rush Limbaugh had a caller Friday who was a Saints fan from the paper bag days, and he mentioned a Drew Brees sports video that is nothing short of amazing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVoqA-LKGb4
Del Dolemonte on September 20, 2009 at 10:35 AM
I know you said owners. Just wondering if your favorite team is made up of mostly Obama supports do you wish them bad luck too?
Interesting list of Sports figures and political giving
http://www.newsmeat.com/sports_political_donations/
CWforFreedom on September 20, 2009 at 10:37 AM
Thread winner already +1000
CWforFreedom on September 20, 2009 at 10:38 AM
Patriots—19-0? Well maybe not but in the SB- probably.
tim c on September 20, 2009 at 10:41 AM
Wonder how many and which games Obama will do halftime interviews at today.
I’m sure he’s still feelin’ the love from his State Run Stenographer blitz tis morning.
I’m guessing we’ll at least be graced with his video presence at the Giants–Cowboy game. It is on NBC.
TXUS on September 20, 2009 at 10:48 AM
The only reason the score will be low is because the Vikings will enjoy pounding the ball with AP.
Expect Percy Harvin to be NFL ROY if he stays healthy. That dude is the total package.
LFRGary on September 20, 2009 at 10:49 AM
The Jets won last week with a rookie quarterback against a very vanilla Houston defense. The result was a Sanchez who looked better than he played. Regardless of what folks WANT to see, he’s still a rookie QB, and he’s about to face off against a top-10 defense. We’ll see how that plays out.
FWIW, The Jets are 3-13 against New England, with their 3 wins coming AT New England. The Patriots haven’t lost in the Meadowlands to the Jets since Belichick took over as head coach.
The AFC East is always a dogfight, and the games between the four teams in the division are always closer than what folks would think, because of the familiarity of the teams to each other.
I don’t see New England losing to the Jets, although it might be closer than some would think. :)
AW1 Tim on September 20, 2009 at 10:49 AM
Lions extend perfect season this week…0-19.
The misery of it all…
Jeff2161 on September 20, 2009 at 10:52 AM
So true. Sanchez is still a rookie going up against a much tougher defense. Meanwhile, the Bills really impressed with their D last week. I doubt the Jets can match that D. I think the Patriots will have a relatively easy time of it today.
Maybe Arizona can win today. That’ll be nice, but they have issues this year. I hope they figure them out fast!
Ordinary1 on September 20, 2009 at 10:54 AM
I know you said owners. Just wondering if your favorite team is made up of mostly Obama supports do you wish them bad luck too?
Interesting list of Sports figures and political giving
http://www.newsmeat.com/sports_political_donations/
CWforFreedom on September 20, 2009 at 10:37 AM
Well let’s see Rooneys are predominately scum backers, Urlacher from the Bears, 100%, so he’s a scum bag.
Most coaches for the NFL seem GOP. My teams doesn’t list the coach, and as for owners, there’s thousands of them to ask.
Jeff from WI on September 20, 2009 at 10:57 AM
Steelers! and did you see Snuggleupagus argue with TOTUS on when an ins mandate is a tax? LOL!! See here
ginaswo on September 20, 2009 at 10:57 AM
Players?
I didn’t see any players shilling for The One after the SB, and, if they did, they would get fined.
The Steeler owner had no business treating us to his lame political views after the SB. Let him buy commercial time with the billions made from his antitrust protected business.
And, WTF does the political persuasion of the players have to do with anything?
I think The One should nationalize the NFL teams (without compensation) and give them to the black community as reparations. Like the labor unions say, the workers really built the league! I wonder if Rooney and Steeler ownership would support that.
IlikedAUH2O on September 20, 2009 at 10:59 AM
Favres arm falls off and is kicked into the crown. Peterson has compound fracture ala Theismann, Lions ekk out a win 21-20 “Troll”part of Michigan explodes!
Jeff from WI on September 20, 2009 at 11:00 AM
crown=crowd
Jeff from WI on September 20, 2009 at 11:00 AM
That stinks! Guess I will be watching the game on mute. :/
GO GIANTS!!!
artchick on September 20, 2009 at 11:01 AM
Still did not answer the question.
CWforFreedom on September 20, 2009 at 11:01 AM
Gang Green over the Cheatriots: 21-10
JetBoy on September 20, 2009 at 11:02 AM
Steelers are over-rated.
Go Giants—beat the Dodgers! Whoops
Go Niners—beat the Seahawks
Rovin on September 20, 2009 at 11:02 AM
The Bills always play tough. back in ’04, they beat New England 31-0 on opening day, at home. The two teams, though, went their separate ways, with the Patriots beating the Bill by an identical 31-0 to end the season, and then winning the superbowl.
The Bills also famously played the Cowboys on another big Monday Night Football game a couple years ago, leading through the game until the end when they lost in the final seconds to a Dallas field goal.
The Bills have some excellent athletes and some good schemes, but suffer from a moderate QB and poor coaching.
The Jets, Patriots, Bills and Dolphins always play eachother hard and tough, and there is rarely a blowout game between any of them. I still expect New England to win the division, but the Jets might also make the playoffs as a wild card team.
However, it’s only week 2, and 14 more to go. A better sense will come by week 5 or 6 of how the division will sort itself out.
respects,
AW1 Tim on September 20, 2009 at 11:03 AM
Since most of the players are NOT listed, how would we ever know. Do I expect black players to vote GOP, heck no. Do I expect owners to keep their mouth shut about presidential picks, hell yes.
Jeff from WI on September 20, 2009 at 11:06 AM
How do you figure? They have a great defense and a very very good QB. Such silliness from the nobodies.
Also, 49rs suck and lose today.
CWforFreedom on September 20, 2009 at 11:07 AM
Gotta call you out there, son.
If you have any proof that New England ever cheated, then you ought to post it here for all to see.
The reason I say that is because NO ONE in the NFL, not the league head office, not any coach, not any official, ever accused them of cheating.
New England broke a rule in the NFL Operations Manual, NOT the game rules, as to where a video camera could be placed. There is no rule against taping the other team, their signals, etc. It just didn’t happen, and no one in any official office ever said or claimed that New England ever gained an unfair advantage during a game because of that infraction.
While it might be an easy way to soothe a frightened countenance, or to cushion the understanding that your own team hasn’t won it all for four decades, it simply isn’t true that New England cheated.
Respects,
AW1 Tim on September 20, 2009 at 11:08 AM
As much as I love Brett, that sounds like awesome pro-ball.
Let us offer up a prayer. “Please let the Lions ekk…”
Peri Winkle on September 20, 2009 at 11:10 AM
Why would Arlen Spectacle call for a Senate investigastion if there was nothing to the accusations? Oh I know, the Senate only investigates ridiculous claims.
thomasaur on September 20, 2009 at 11:11 AM
investigastion=investigation
sheesh
thomasaur on September 20, 2009 at 11:12 AM
Da Bearz will play better this week. They really ought to hire a teetotaler for their quarterback, though. It’s one of the great ironies of recent NFL history that the best quarterback da Bearz (Jim McMahon) is about the only BYU alumnus in recorded history to have a drinking problem.
Meanwhile, my beloved Packers will win, but it will be closer than I’d like. The big questions:
1) Will Chad Ochocinco score?
2) Will he really try to do a Lambeau Leap, as he has promised?
3) If he does, will he come back with all limbs attached?
Mr. D on September 20, 2009 at 11:14 AM
Go Cowboys! I will be back at this link tonight during the game to fuss with you haters out there. Gotta do yardwork and cook a brisket on the smoker in the meantime.
Still stinging from my beloved Red Raiders loss to the T-Sippers last night though.
conservnut on September 20, 2009 at 11:14 AM
er, make that the “the best quarterback da Bearz have had”
And I’m not even drinking.
Mr. D on September 20, 2009 at 11:17 AM
I’m still trying to figure out why Harrisburg/York TV is carrying the Ravens instead of the Steelers at 4:00. Sure, we’re closer to Baltimore, but they must know nobody cares about the Ravens around here.
forest on September 20, 2009 at 11:18 AM
I hear Romo’s “special friend” say’s hello from Burlington.
If all those women only knew.
Jeff from WI on September 20, 2009 at 11:19 AM
Agreed, but you’ll never change peoples’ minds. When it comes to this topic, the New England-haters behave exactly like Leftist Democrats-they toss all logic out the door and rely solely on emotion.
Del Dolemonte on September 20, 2009 at 11:19 AM
Asked and answered. :)
You forget that ol’ Arlen is a Senator from Pennsylvania, home to two teams the Patriots have regularly beaten. He was also going after the NFL after it refused to cave to ComCast’s demands for more money for carrying the NFL Network. Folks seem to forget that both ComCast and their Legal Counsel are in the top 5 donors to Arlen’s campaigns.
Arlen needed face time on TV, and he got it. You’ll note, too, that although he did a lot of talking, nothing came of it.
Respects,
AW1 Tim on September 20, 2009 at 11:19 AM
Just kiddin’…LOL
Jeff from WI on September 20, 2009 at 11:20 AM
Go Vikes!, make it look easy for a change!
Markvike on September 20, 2009 at 11:24 AM
GO COWBOYS! Also, Gig’em Aggies!!!!
txag92 on September 20, 2009 at 11:26 AM
Back to the Seahwaks. Much improved this year and should win a relatively weak NFC West Division. Can they beat the Packers/Vikings/Eagles/Saints/a couple of other possibilities to get to the Super Bowl? Should be fun to find out!
Ordinary1 on September 20, 2009 at 11:27 AM
Urlacher is out. Chi’s secondary is a bunch of inexperienced players. Cutler is frazzleable. Look for Steelers to exploit all of these weaknesses. Despite the absence of Troy P, I predict the Steelers by 10.
Howard Portnoy on September 20, 2009 at 11:28 AM
I was being sarcastic and actually tried to be over the top sarcastic.
thomasaur on September 20, 2009 at 11:31 AM
The Pats are something like OJ Simpson…we all KNOW he did it, but lack that actual “proof”, even tho the evidence is all around…and damaging.
Belicheat’s Pats consistently won more games than their stats showed they should. And the NFL wanted this whole thing to go away…that’s why the tapes were destroyed and nothing more than fines were imposed.
Respect to you as well, but the evidence is all around that New England had a history of cheating. They got busted. And the NFL kept it as much on the down low as possible.
JetBoy on September 20, 2009 at 11:33 AM
AW 1-
AMEN BROTHER…geesh. So tired of hearing that!
GO PATS.
brotherbell on September 20, 2009 at 11:39 AM
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!
Bevan on September 20, 2009 at 11:40 AM
Plain and simple Pat cheated. It is much like the Acorn deal. You all know they cheated in this election and very little came of it
BTW Bill Bellicheat and PATS paid fines of that mess.
CWforFreedom on September 20, 2009 at 11:40 AM
brotherbelt- Tired of hearing the truth? you would not be hearing it if they did not cheat.
CWforFreedom on September 20, 2009 at 11:40 AM
Go Jimmie Johnson #48…!
Seven Percent Solution on September 20, 2009 at 11:43 AM
Patriot Fans
Reality Check:
I suspect they were fined for following the rules eh? /sarc
Sometimes Pats fans remind me of those who defend the Obamas,Kennedys, and Michael Moores of the world.
CWforFreedom on September 20, 2009 at 11:45 AM
Due to local coverage, we get the Chargers for our second game so it is off to the local Steeler bar for us. Besides, I haven’t worn my new Greene Jersey yet, so this is my chance.
Nice to see Ed pick Sanchez over Brady – we’ll be pulling for the local kid too.
Have fun everyone.
InTheBellyoftheBeast on September 20, 2009 at 11:46 AM
Go Smoke, #14!
thomasaur on September 20, 2009 at 11:46 AM
JetBoy on September 20, 2009 at 11:33 AM
CWforFreedom on September 20, 2009 at 11:40 AM
BTW comparing a football team to an accused murderer is cretinesque.
Del Dolemonte on September 20, 2009 at 11:48 AM
We are in the same boat and my kids just gave me a MeanJoe jersey that needs christened with some buffalo wing sauce.
CWforFreedom on September 20, 2009 at 11:49 AM
here we go again
distort the argument rather than defend the actions of the Pats
You are hilrious. Is that a Saul Alinsky move? I heard we cons were learning them. You must be at the forefront. :)
CWforFreedom on September 20, 2009 at 11:51 AM
Being in the DC area, I am forced to watch the team WITH THE MOST OFFENSIVE NICKNAME IN SPORTS…
Go Rams!
Khun Joe on September 20, 2009 at 12:01 PM
I’m with S. E. Cupp in boycotting the entire season over Vick. You boys enjoy watching your gangsters, thugs, drug dealers/addicts and/or manslaughterer/murderers make their millions for playing with ball. I like the mechanics of the game, but the personnel side has become a counter-cultural spectacle that makes me want to puke. I’d rather just watch videos of Bloods and Crips shooting at each other. I’m out.
Blacklake on September 20, 2009 at 12:03 PM
Belichick needs to sue the NFL. He did not cheat and was fined the highest fine against a coach ever.
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CWforFreedom on September 20, 2009 at 12:09 PM
Still stinging from my beloved Red Raiders loss to the T-Sippers last night though.
conservnut on September 20, 2009 at 11:14 AM
I was rooting for Tech. Boo t-sips.
txag92 on September 20, 2009 at 12:10 PM
Cowboys all the way! I predict Felix Jones will have an amazing game and the Giants won’t know what to do with themselves. Muahahaha!!!
laurakbarr on September 20, 2009 at 12:11 PM
Remember what they were called right before their present name. The Boston Patriots. Bostone, as in Mass. Now look at your last sentence.
Jeff from WI on September 20, 2009 at 12:11 PM
Boston
Jeff from WI on September 20, 2009 at 12:12 PM
So someday, if you win the Super Bowl, but get caught doing it can they switch the Lombardi trophy to the Belichick trophy?
Jeff from WI on September 20, 2009 at 12:15 PM
When you lose the Super Bowl you get the Bud Grant Trophy
Jeff from WI on September 20, 2009 at 12:16 PM
I’m a die hard NY Giants fan that was born in 1959.
ny59giants on September 20, 2009 at 12:19 PM
Offensive to who? HAIL TO THE REDSKINS!!!!!
Cindy Munford on September 20, 2009 at 12:29 PM
LIKEDAUH
Yep those NFL Players kept their mouths shut /sarc
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-total-access/09000d5d80e3bfa1/Impressions-of-Obama
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3685206
http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/27107838/
CWforFreedom on September 20, 2009 at 12:38 PM
Cool
I was just having fun
You are old btw /s
CWforFreedom on September 20, 2009 at 12:39 PM
Cindy, I love your postings, but it is a pretty offensive nickname… If you were at work and used it to describe a group of Native Americans sitting in the lunch room, you’d get fired… Or undergo sensitivity training and come back like “Decider”…
I’m just saying…
Khun Joe on September 20, 2009 at 12:44 PM
Why should we Redskins be offended, they let some of us live.
thomasaur on September 20, 2009 at 12:48 PM
When it comes to this topic, the New England-haters behave exactly like Leftist Democrats-they toss all logic out the door and rely solely on emotion.
Del Dolemonte on September 20, 2009 at 12:52 PM
Khun Joe….know the state of American business and our PC world one may well be fired.
Funny though 90 PERCENT of American Indians do not fined the nic offensive.
CWforFreedom on September 20, 2009 at 12:53 PM
So will the Pats and Bill sue . They were robbed. Fined $750000 for not cheating
It is an outrage
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funny how you always divert divert divert
On any other subject you are ok
CWforFreedom on September 20, 2009 at 12:54 PM
game time
CWforFreedom on September 20, 2009 at 12:57 PM
Just two things to say here, first I am not offended with “Redskin” and I am one, Indian that is.
Second thing is…GOUX SAINTS!!!!
Teleycoman on September 20, 2009 at 1:01 PM
CWforFreedom on September 20, 2009 at 12:38 PM
I never said the players were quiet. Read the post!
The players would have to be quiet where the Steelers’ owner spouted off or they would have problems. From the NFL. And even if they wouldn’t have problems, the Steelers’ owner giving The One credit for his team’s SB win is stupid and an unnecessary addition to the world’s love for a truly inept and possibly evil leader.
The NFL is so uptight, the players can’t wear nonapproved badges or logos on their uniforms or even nonsponsor shoes or socks! They are fined if they do. And that owner approves the policy. Of course, that policy lines his pockets. And, like most liberals, nothing may be allowed to get in the way of positive cash flow.
The lib owner’s likely profit from unique tax rules for depreciation, subsidies for stadia, and free publicity from the White House for his champs amy have gotten where he was standing with the trophy. But The One hadn’t reached in his pocket for any of that. You and I did.
IlikedAUH2O on September 20, 2009 at 1:25 PM
Once again, it’s a matter of words. As Tim said:
The Jets accused the Patriots of cheating. The NFL itself never used the word.
Belichick accepted full responsibility for his actions, but to use this incident to accuse the entire team of “cheating” is an insult to the players. If they had been cheating, the NFL would have fined them as well, not just the coach.
Del Dolemonte on September 20, 2009 at 1:30 PM
Cindy Munford on September 20, 2009 at 1:33 PM
FIFY. Still won’t let it go……
Mallard T. Drake on September 20, 2009 at 1:34 PM
If I lived in Vegas or had access to a sports book, I’d lay a nice sum on the Seahawks today. 1 1/2 dog to the Niners. Hawks will win straight up. I can’t believe the 49ers are that much improved.
BTW, Singletary is one of my all-time favorite players. I really want him to succeed, so ling as it is not at the expense of the Seahawks.
Mallard T. Drake on September 20, 2009 at 1:37 PM
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