Obama fudging another health-care horror story?
posted at 10:05 am on September 19, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
Politicians love to trot out anecdotal stories when pushing for policy changes, and it’s even better when they can take examples from their own lives. Nowhere is that more easily done than on health-care reform. After all,everyone sees a doctor, and everyone at some point has to deal with serious or even catastrophic diagnoses, or with situations with the potential for that kind of diagnosis. In her speech yesterday, Michelle Obama told a story to which every parent can relate — the moment that a child may have a severe illness that could kill them or damage them for life (via JammieWearingFool):
I will never forget the time eight years ago when Sasha was four months that she would not stop crying. And she was not a crier, so we knew something was wrong. So we fortunately were able to take her to our pediatrician that next morning. He examined her and same something’s wrong. We didn’t know what. But he told us that she could have meningitis. So we were terrified. He said, get to the emergency room right away.
And fortunately for us, things worked out, because she is now the Sasha that we all know and love today — (laughter) — who is causing me great — excitement. (Laughter.)
Things worked out because Sasha got immediate attention, and turned out not to have meningitis after all, as the New York Times reports (and as Mrs. Obama hints in the speech):
She cited instances where women were denied coverage because of a pre-existing condition – “like having a C-section, or having had a baby.”
“These are the kind of facts that still wake me up at night,” Mrs. Obama said.
In her speech, Mrs. Obama also told the story of how her daughter Sasha would not stop crying when she was 4 months old. A doctor’s visit revealed she might have meningitis; she ultimately did not, but the illness produced a scare.
Maybe someone should have told Mrs. Obama’s husband. In a speech to nurses just eight days earlier, Barack Obama told the story quite a bit differently (emphasis mine):
When our youngest daughter, Sasha, was diagnosed with meningitis when she was just three months old, it was one of the scariest moments of my life. And we had to have a spinal tap administered and she ended up being in the hospital for three or four days. And it was touch and go, we didn’t know whether she’d be permanently affected by it. It was the nurses who walked us through what was happening and made sure that Sasha was okay.
Well, she wasn’t diagnosed with meningitis, although the fright was real. How hard is it to get the facts straight so that both Obamas tell the same story? After all, it’s the fright, not the meningitis, that is the key part of the anecdote. Moreover, why would Sasha’s father not know the difference?
Politicians hauling out their families to argue to illustrate their policy agenda is nothing new, but usually they get their facts straight first. It’s quite reminiscent of Obama’s anecdote about Otto Raddatz in his speech to Congress just the day before this speech, in which he accused an insurance company of killing Raddatz by canceling his coverage in the middle of chemotherapy. As Lynn Sweet reported, Raddatz had his coverage reinstated within weeks, never missed a chemotherapy session, and died more than four years later.
It’s bad enough to ignore the facts using someone else’s research. It’s an indication of some serious incompetence to get one wrong about your own daughter, after both parents made her part of the health-care overhaul argument.
Update: AZCoyote has a good point in the comments:
What is the point of the story anyway? That other people couldn’t take their baby to the ER if they thought she had meningitis? Of course they could . . . and it wouldn’t matter if they had health insurance, or if they could pay the bill or not. The ER would have been required by federal law to examine and treat the baby.
If this is supposed to be an example of why we need universal coverage, it’s a spectacularly bad one.










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When you have to embellish and, well, LIE in order to make for a “good story”, and you get caught, (over and over again) your credibility is pretty much shot. Add that to the “crybaby” factor and you become just an American embarrassment.
anniekc on September 19, 2009 at 11:00 AM
Agreed. He is either an awful father, underinformed (does not know what a ‘diagnosis’ is) or not a careful truth teller in an important debate. Pick one.
clorensen on September 19, 2009 at 11:01 AM
Any real, caring mother would know exactly how long their child was in the hospital. Just another O-fabrication.
Blackhawk45 on September 19, 2009 at 11:01 AM
Fixed.
jana on September 19, 2009 at 11:01 AM
Sorry, dude, it’s the other way around. Taking a one-word imprecision and spinning it into a “lie to the American people” is petty and, also, incorrect.
They apparently thought it was pretty sure that she had meningitis. What would you call it? Outside a precise medical or insurance document “diagnose pretty much works.
Bleeds Blue on September 19, 2009 at 11:01 AM
Under Dr. Zekes plan she would have been to young for treatment if she had had meningitis.Sounds like they wouldn’t really like the change they want for us.
tim c on September 19, 2009 at 11:02 AM
You’re a racist. They were only trying to save the health care system money by not using up ER resources. After all the ER is the doctors office for illegals and the Obamas are nuanced enough to know that and not step in the way of baby Juan getting his boo-boo checked out.
angryed on September 19, 2009 at 11:02 AM
Obama told this same story of Sasha’s meningitis back at that phony WH “town hall” in March. I recall that one of the newsies (maybe NYT?) called the WH press office to get some background on the story. They had never heard it before. Imagine that.
Phony townhalls, phony illnesses, phony leader.
Nichevo on September 19, 2009 at 11:03 AM
+100 LOL!
Seriously, no one is turned away from any emergency room based on ability to pay thanks to laws already in place so both Obamas are using a stunningly useless anecdote in their arguments for universal coverage.
The only exception I can think of is poor patients who went to the University of Chicago Medical Center during Michelle Obama’s time there and were diverted (i.e. dumped) to another facility, like Dontae Adams was.
inmypajamas on September 19, 2009 at 11:03 AM
The ” Audacity ” of stupidity.
Should I write a book and run for office?
bluegrass on September 19, 2009 at 11:04 AM
“YOU LIE!”
It’s a daily-required statement with this calculating clown.
profitsbeard on September 19, 2009 at 11:04 AM
Naw. Don’t.
A quick, “hey honey, when did…” before the speech would have worked great. He’s just using his own kid as a political prop.
itsacookbook on September 19, 2009 at 11:07 AM
That’s at least 4 lies in this speech – so far.
Sasha didn’t have meningitis
Abortions will not be covered
Illegal immigrants will not be covered
Otto didn’t die from lack of insurance
http://speakmymindblog.com/2009/09/18/obama-you-lied-again/
Also, you receive the results of a spinal tap very quickly -minutes/hours – not days. It’s strange that Michelle didn’t mention Sasha staying in the hospital at all………
Using his kids is sickening…….
sherryande on September 19, 2009 at 11:07 AM
And baloney.
profitsbeard on September 19, 2009 at 11:10 AM
Imagine Sarah Palin had mixed up diagnosis/non-diagnosis. Right now on CNN there would be non-stop BREAKING NEWS: PALIN USES CHILDREN IN WEB OF HEALTH CARE LIES.
angryed on September 19, 2009 at 11:11 AM
The World of Commander McBragg…..
tutululu on September 19, 2009 at 11:11 AM
A diagnosis of meningitis followed by 3 or 4 days of treatment versus a diagnosis that she didn’t have meningitis.
Classic leftist non think. No rationalization is too embarrassing.
Basilsbest on September 19, 2009 at 11:11 AM
Keep tellin’ yourself that, Junior. Before you know it, you might even believe it yourself.
hillbillyjim on September 19, 2009 at 11:16 AM
They weren’t lying.
It’s a Schrödinger’s cat thing- Sasha both had and didn’t have meningitis.
You assume that the Obamas know nothing about quantum mechanics.
Racists.
justltl on September 19, 2009 at 11:16 AM
Incompetent, and dishonest. What a shock.
In a related, but not directly on-topic matter, here’s the text of a letter I’ve sent to my so-called “representatives” in Congress. Please feel free to use some or all of it if you should so desire.
mr.blacksheep on September 19, 2009 at 11:17 AM
justltl on September 19, 2009 at 11:16 AM
Thank you for explaining this – we’re sorry………..just please, please don’t call us racists – again and again and again and again ;o)
sherryande on September 19, 2009 at 11:18 AM
If your doctor told you that you might have gallstones, then would you go around telling people that the doctor’s diagnosis was that you had gallstones?
If your answer is yes, then you are a liar.
hillbillyjim on September 19, 2009 at 11:21 AM
British columbia is short on cash and announced cutting surgeries by 6,000 How do they decide which tonsils, tits, tucks, trachaeas are least important?
seven on September 19, 2009 at 11:23 AM
Besides, that anecdote wasn’t meant for the health care debate.
It was meant for the cap and trade debate.
“And the doctors determined that Sasha’s fever was due not to meningitis, but global warming.”
justltl on September 19, 2009 at 11:23 AM
Hey, I thought the president’s daughters were off base, untouchable, not to be mentioned by a n y o n e.
But it’s OK for Mommy & Daddy to tell lies about them to score political points.
Creepy parents.
fogw on September 19, 2009 at 11:25 AM
Please, I was just remembering when I’ve done the same. And I haven’t been called a Leftist since….well, I’ve never been called a Leftist, until today.
E9RET on September 19, 2009 at 11:25 AM
….and the fact that YOU are occupying The White House ( and I bet you just love that it’s called that ) makes most of America do the same.
Jerome Horwitz on September 19, 2009 at 11:25 AM
Fixed
NoFanofLibs on September 19, 2009 at 11:27 AM
You
LIEFUDGE!hillbillyjim on September 19, 2009 at 11:28 AM
You’re welcome and no problemo.
But…hmmm…you’re mighty defensive there, sherryande.
That wouldn’t be because you’re a…oh, I dunno…
A RACIST???
justltl on September 19, 2009 at 11:30 AM
This is FUDGE with nuts and its turning hard
bluegrass on September 19, 2009 at 11:31 AM
farright on September 19, 2009 at 11:31 AM
Do they think no one is watching them and comparing stories? Total incompetence!
They put her up in front of a totally sympathetic audience (black women) and then watch helplessly as their opponents fisk her remarks, which are exactly the same as her husband’s.
Plus, she’s got that damn belt on again.
PattyJ on September 19, 2009 at 11:35 AM
Nice. Has he(she) responded?
a capella on September 19, 2009 at 11:35 AM
It’s already illegal to turn someone away from an ER in a life-threatening situation, whether they have meningitis or have just been hit by a car/shot/stabbed. Same reason this entire argument of we “want to see someone die in a car wreck and not help” is pure BS.
Ryan Gandy on September 19, 2009 at 11:37 AM
We give medical care to cop-killers. There isn’t a soul in the U.S. who won’t get medical care.
Does ANYBODY, even dumb-ass libs, believe this crap?
Mojave Mark on September 19, 2009 at 11:38 AM
Are these more scare tatics? Boring …. Blah Blah Blah
Let 1 person tell the story or get your story straight! How many young children were DUMPED thanks to MO?
BigMike252 on September 19, 2009 at 11:38 AM
why would a pediatrician tell a parent to go to the ER when that Pediatrician could easily set the child up with a specialist & send the parents/child to the specialist.
Instead the Pediatrician sends them to an ER?
Sounds weird.
poppieseeds on September 19, 2009 at 11:45 AM
So when the crunch time cometh, and Barry has to choose between funding his one payer system or padding his ACORN soldiers payoffs, you just take another tablet of pain killer.
bayview on September 19, 2009 at 11:45 AM
justltl on September 19, 2009 at 11:30 AM
whoa there – I was being facetious – crap that probably makes me a racist – damn I seem to be caught in a circular argument – lol
sherryande on September 19, 2009 at 11:46 AM
My sentiments, exactly! I have to wonder about all the children turned away because of Michelle’s program at the hospital, in Chicago. Sasha got the treatment because they had insurance. By law, others should get it, regardless of insurance, and she chose a plan that drives the undesireables, right on by. Such compassion! NOT!!!
capejasmine on September 19, 2009 at 11:47 AM
poppieseeds on September 19, 2009 at 11:45 AM
it’s called defensive medicine…………you know that tort reform thing that they’re going to ‘study’
sherryande on September 19, 2009 at 11:47 AM
Not so far. My expectations are low.
mr.blacksheep on September 19, 2009 at 11:51 AM
IT’S HARD TO GET A STORY ‘STRAIGHT’ WHEN YOU’RE LYING THROUGH YOUR TEETH.
GarandFan on September 19, 2009 at 11:55 AM
Looks like both the King and Queen have no clothes…. This would actually be an enjoyable trainwreck if we weren’t the passengers.
libertylady on September 19, 2009 at 11:55 AM
Maureen Dowd would report the story like so:
Michelle will never forget the time ten years ago when Sasha was eight months that she would not stop crying. And she was not a crier, so they knew something was wrong. So they fortunately were able to take her to their pediatrician that next morning. He examined her and said, “Something’s wrong.” “She could have meningitis.” “We’ll have to remove her tonsils and amputate her leg.” They were terrified and suspected that he was a racist .
So they took her to the Emergency Department. The doctors probably wanted to turn her away, but reluctantly admitted her, where the diagnosis of meningitis was rapidly ruled out. They still kept little Sasha in the hospital for three days, not because her parents were attorneys and they were terrified of being sued, but rather because they wanted to bilk the insurance company.
When the doctors finally released Sasha, they reassured the Obamas by saying, “She’s fine.”
Now, fair or not, I suspect that the doctors were really wanting to say, “She’s fine- for a black child.”
justltl on September 19, 2009 at 11:55 AM
This is great news that Michelle is out and about.
Now if Joe Biden would just go out more.
Between them all ObamaCare should be dead in a few weeks.
albill on September 19, 2009 at 11:58 AM
That’s hilarious. Made my morning!
libertylady on September 19, 2009 at 11:59 AM
I think you got your wish, someone (Allahpundit?) posted that Biden would be on the healthcare stump next week. As he said “What could go wrong?”
E9RET on September 19, 2009 at 12:02 PM
You are 100% correct. Perhaps if it were a bad flu bug and one thought it included strep or was rotovirus, etc. relatively minor and can certainly be forgiven. Meningitis is one of my personal nightmare scenarios…and, as a mom, I would know for a FACT that they were or were not diagnosed, where they were, what drugs/treatments were administered, etc.
Diane on September 19, 2009 at 12:15 PM
Bingo, AZ Coyote. This has been the MO of the lying scum in the White House since the beginning — they keep swapping “health insurance” for “medical treatment”, as if they’re the same thing. They are not. Lots of people get medical treatment without insurance. Liars.
Jaibones on September 19, 2009 at 12:18 PM
details… details…
D2Boston on September 19, 2009 at 12:19 PM
Unless that’s vanilla fudge, I’m calling RAAAAACIIISSST!
profitsbeard on September 19, 2009 at 12:19 PM
I never thought that Biden would end up being the more honest of the Pres/VP duo. And that is saying a lot.
coyoterex on September 19, 2009 at 12:21 PM
What will probably happen is a complete white wash (racist, I know) of the diagnosis of meningitis by the entire medical community just to cover the Obamas’ behinds. Rather than exposing a brazen lie, they’d move mountains and wholesale medical research to “fix it.”
Diane on September 19, 2009 at 12:21 PM
Hey, ED..any thought to making the Obama lies a weekly thread?…like the ‘Obamateurism of the Week’??
Perhaps we could call it ‘Obamalies”??
LEBA on September 19, 2009 at 12:36 PM
I’m so happy to read this account of these two LIARS;
My evaluation of these bums has been right-on since I concluded what they were like two years ago.
Lying, cheating, and stealing is what they do; And they employ these tactics every day.
And anyone whom emulates them is of the same cloth.
Cybergeezer on September 19, 2009 at 1:01 PM
Probably her story is right.
Obama has never paid the slightest attention to medicine in his entire life, and has no idea of the proper language or what any of the terms mean, or ANYTHING.
This is obvious from all his medical speeches. I used to wonder how he could be so medically ignorant when he has two daughters, because most people at least gain a passing understanding of medicine through parenthood.
Then I realized he has probably never had anything to do with his daughters’ doctors visits, etc., as Michelle has probably done it all.
So when she says health is primarily a women’s concern, she is only reflecting her own experience in her own marriage.
Obama is one of the most medically ignorant human beings extant, period. He does not and has never had the slightest interest in even the medical basics, and hasn’t the slightest grasp of the general knowledge most people have.
Alana on September 19, 2009 at 1:02 PM
Yes; By all means!
These poor kids will never know the truth!
Cybergeezer on September 19, 2009 at 1:07 PM
Oh, God! More RACIST CRITICISM!
I thought this was banned?
Cybergeezer on September 19, 2009 at 1:12 PM
Pointing out disparities in the stories is racist.
malclave on September 19, 2009 at 1:16 PM
Children are such a punishment.
Dhuka on September 19, 2009 at 1:20 PM
The Obamas believe it is not a lie if you don’t believe it.
Dhuka on September 19, 2009 at 1:23 PM
Depends on what the meaning of “is” is.
itsacookbook on September 19, 2009 at 1:23 PM
It can easily take a couple of weeks to get in to see a specialist. Also, if something is urgent and does need to be addressed immediately, then the E.R. has the resources of the hospital available… specialists, X-Ray, MRI, surgery, etc.
Even when I call my primary physician’s office, the phone tree tells me to hang up and call 911 if I think it’s an emergency.
malclave on September 19, 2009 at 1:24 PM
At some point someone that lies alot, take a politician for example, ends up dipping into the lie bucket so often it becomes second nature and eventually becomes the first option rather than the second.
I think this is Obama all over. He no longer cares about the facts or the truth as long as he gets his way or even if it’s just a way to get the point across. Facts don’t matter, just believe what I say. Fact checkers are racists conservatives and can’t be allowed to be part of the future of this country, they don’t fit with Obamas fantasies and lies so they must be marginalized or completely eliminated.
Obama is at war with this country. Using lies against Americans has moved from being an incidental tool to a main part of his arsenal. Fortunately it’s the easiest part of his arsenal to use against him and cripple his fascist attacks on America.
Spiritk9 on September 19, 2009 at 1:46 PM
I have a question for the oh so believable parents of Sasha Obama. Don’t you think the babies born in Illinois that may have a serious illness (such as being born alive after a botched abortion) deserve the same critical care and treatment that your own daughter got?
Hypocrites!
Under the commenting guidelines I am unable to express the colorful descriptions I am thinking of these “parents”.
/absolutely no sarcasm at all.
Blacksmith8 on September 19, 2009 at 1:46 PM
Blacksmith8 on September 19, 2009 at 1:46 PM
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You are showing progress.
bluegrass on September 19, 2009 at 1:49 PM
Wait just a minute there. You mean she DIDN’T/ISN’T ?
But what about Track Palin coming home this weekend?
That’s true isn’t it?
/sarc
Blacksmith8 on September 19, 2009 at 1:49 PM
Stick out your tongue and say aaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh
bluegrass on September 19, 2009 at 1:52 PM
Oramadan can use ACORN to train doctors now since he has seized the student loan program. Never in all my years did I realilize how important and how smart community orgainizers are.
I must axe, DID YOU?
bluegrass on September 19, 2009 at 1:56 PM
Her pediatrician told them to go the ER? In other countries that I’ve lived in which have nationalized health care, a pediatrician was considered a specialist which your primary care doc would refer you to if he/she felt is was warranted.
No one I knew overseas had a pediatrician as a primary care doc, except people who lived in the US. Our kids went to the same primary care doc as my husband and I did.
Now, I didn’t know people from all countries, so maybe in some places kids have pediatricians as primary care docs, but it’s not the norm.
wadikitty on September 19, 2009 at 1:56 PM
Hey, ED..any thought to making the Obama lies a weekly thread?…like the ‘Obamateurism of the Week’??
Perhaps we could call it ‘Obamalies”??
LEBA on September 19, 2009 at 12:36 PM
+1!
2nd that!
(Pronounced to rhyme with Mo’ homilies?)
profitsbeard on September 19, 2009 at 2:10 PM
On par with the VP’s story bout that Taliban Anti-Aircraft snowball artillery that forced his copter down in A-Stan.
DSchoen on September 19, 2009 at 2:15 PM
Who in the world believes that Michelle Obama is kept up at night by “facts” regarding health care?
kagai on September 19, 2009 at 2:17 PM
Kinda sorta like those CBS memogate memos that no on had ever seen before!
Cuz they just made em up!
LOL!
DSchoen on September 19, 2009 at 2:22 PM
There are certain behavior traits or attributes that are common to certain disorders or behavioral maladies. For serial killers, an early history of animal abuse is a flag.
When a politician lies about their family members, especially their kids, for political gain, you know you have a sick #uck on your hands.
mr1216 on September 19, 2009 at 2:51 PM
Now that’s what I call a LIE.
bloggless on September 19, 2009 at 2:56 PM
Kids in America typically have a pediatrician as a primary care doctor. Children are not “little adults” and have specific needs that are quite different from those of adults. That’s why American Healthcare is so phenomenal – specialists!
bloggless on September 19, 2009 at 2:59 PM
Best thread post A.O.! (after obama)
TugboatPhil on September 19, 2009 at 3:00 PM
………..Sorry…..
Which was then divided up by the good folks at the “not-for-profit” hospital including 1 of 16 hospital vice presidents Michelle Obama who’s salary was increased from $121,910 to $316,962.
BTW, is this how not-for-profit hospitals remain non-profitable, when they rake in more money just increase the pay and/or create non-functional positions like 16 vice presidents?
Cuz that sounds kinda corrupt, legal I’m sure, ethical not so much?
Sorry to change your post but there’s more to it.
DSchoen on September 19, 2009 at 3:11 PM
Who doesn’t?
Since none of us were ever slaves no artificial time line exist.
At some point in time, your ancestors were slaves.
It is also true that at some point in time your ancestors were slave owners.
This is a world wide truth.
DSchoen on September 19, 2009 at 3:19 PM
how did Sasha make it out of there with her tonsils and feet?
gatorboy on September 19, 2009 at 10:16 AM
Gator, you owe me a new laptop. I read your comment and shot iced tea out of my nose!! Still laughing 20 minutes after I read it.
And back to the column subject, what a pathetic shame these two cant even get their stories straight when they go public with them. Did you really expect anything different?
President Obama = Liar in Chief
pghpat26 on September 19, 2009 at 3:43 PM
This reminds me of Obama’s uncle who liberated Aushcwitz and his grandfather signed up for a war the day after Pearl Harbor was bombed. All proven to be lies.
Dollayo on September 19, 2009 at 3:43 PM
That’s driving the handlers nuts. They keep telling her to “remember to take the damn transporter belt off” after they beam her down.
Yoop on September 19, 2009 at 3:51 PM
Eh.
The part about the “diagnosed with meningitis” is one that I’d consider “close enough”, since it could be reasonably said that the preliminary diagnosis by the pediatrician was meningitis, which is why he directed them to the ER. It wasn’t the final (or correct) diagnosis, but I can see it as at least A diagnosis.
What makes zero sense to me is Michelle trying to use this as an example of someone being “lucky” to have health care coverage. As others have pointed out, it’s not like anyone is getting turned away from emergency rooms, especially those without coverage… who tend to use the ER as their one-stop-shop for all medical care.
In fact, the case could be made that, if this actually had been meningitis, it would have been more likely to have been caught if they didn’t have medical coverage, since they would have gone straight to the emergency room instead of the pediatrician (who couldn’t treat it).
That’s what you call ironic, Michelle.
VekTor on September 19, 2009 at 3:57 PM
Obama fudging another health-care horror story?
On this, of all “talk like a pirate day” of days?!
The Other McCain found ye ol’ funnybone, aye.
maverick muse on September 19, 2009 at 4:16 PM
Isn’t Sasha’s case an example of what Obama would describe as wasteful over doctoring?
burt on September 19, 2009 at 5:22 PM
More sweet succulent FAIL!
ronsfi on September 19, 2009 at 5:35 PM
Is this guy really mentally incapable of distinguishing the difference between the truth and what he would like to convince others is the truth, or is he just an inveterate liar?
burt on September 19, 2009 at 5:38 PM
As I say
The Prezisadunce
macncheez on September 19, 2009 at 6:34 PM
Soon all the fellato-media will be wearing them, and then we can call it what it really looks like: a Tool-belt.
drunyan8315 on September 19, 2009 at 7:33 PM
Yoop and drunyan, LOL!
Maybe Barry will bring it to the chat shows tomorrow for good luck.
PattyJ on September 19, 2009 at 10:32 PM
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