Video: The valley hope forgot

posted at 3:35 pm on September 18, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

That would be the San Joaquin Valley in California, one of the most prolific agricultural areas in the country — or at least it was, until environmentalists turned off the water. Did they need it for people in response to the drought? No, because the water that would normally flow to the SJV is getting directed out to sea instead. Environmentalists have chosen to bankrupt an entire ecosystem of farms in favor of protecting the Delta smelt, a three-inch fish that neither feeds people nor eliminates pests from the water system.

Sean Hannity covered the story last night, live from the formerly green San Joaquin Valley:

Comedian Paul Rodriguez says, “We could feed the world with this valley,” and while that’s a bit of an exaggeration, it certainly helps feed the nation. “The only thing growing here is despair,” Rodriguez says. “We grew more food with less water, and for our reward, you cut the water off,” Rodriguez tells Barack Obama, the candidate Rodriguez supported in the election. “What’s up with that?”

Hannity also spoke with Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, who is equally displeased:

This is yet another example of radical environmentalists inflicting unnecessary damage to farming and property rights. We should worry about the next target of their radical action after San Joaquin Valley and its impact on property rights, but we also have more mundane reasons for paying attention to the farmers in SJV. The lack of produce from this formerly successful agricultural area will hike prices across the nation — and could make us more dependent on agricultural imports:

Be sure to take the time to watch all of the clips. It’s well worth the time.


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Can someone please explain when this began and who ordered it?

amkun on September 18, 2009 at 4:33 PM

Go dynamite fishing, then turn on the pumps.

Remember, they’re not endangered if they’re extinct.

BTW, I thought libs were all about evolution now they want to go interfering with it?

John Deaux on September 18, 2009 at 4:34 PM

SOLAR FARMS!!!!???? ARE THE LEFTISTS INSANE!!??? SOLAR POWER DOESNT GROW ON TREES!!!!!!!

moonbatkiller on September 18, 2009 at 4:26 PM

did you hear they just killed the Mojave Desert Solar Farm? Company who was going to build it caved…. and who killed it? the ENVIROS!

Romeo13 on September 18, 2009 at 4:34 PM

The environmentalists are anti-human Marxists. Simple as that.

Green on the outside, blood red through to the core.

spmat on September 18, 2009 at 4:36 PM

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

daesleeper on September 18, 2009 at 4:36 PM

Tihs is one of the biggest dillemnas of my life. I have NEVER sided with environmentalists, but there is more to this than the 3″ delta smelt.

The salmon poulation, that numbered as high as one million in 2003, has crashed to under 70,000 in the last 2 years. The poor irrigation techniques of the central valley(s) have resulted in the naturally occuring selenium and arsenic to leach to the surface, polluting the runoff.

Again, I will never contribute a penny to any environmental concern, but I have more in common with them than I ever have.

And, just to note, I am not merely spouting greenwienie talking points. I am a fisherman who was able to catch a salmon almost anytime I wanted to during the permissable season. Now, they are few and far between and the time alloted to catch them has been cut by 80%.

Gunslinger on September 18, 2009 at 4:36 PM

And the Government said ….
“Let em eat cake smelt”….

Chimp 6 on September 18, 2009 at 4:37 PM

So why don’t some of these radical environmentalists get up there and defend their dopey reasons for what they are doing here, especially when it comes to defending a fish that pretty much is performing virtually no service to nature other than its mere existing?

pilamaye on September 18, 2009 at 4:08 PM

It’s all about those cool buzz words or phrases “Save the Planet” or “Going Green” etc.
Libs don’t solve problems they only create bigger ones.

redridinghood on September 18, 2009 at 4:37 PM

Produce is racist.

LibertyBoyNYC on September 18, 2009 at 4:24 PM

Especially cauliflower.

SouthernGent on September 18, 2009 at 4:38 PM

This has been in the works for a long long time. This is the culmination of years of hard work by the enviro marxists.

Turn the goddamn water on and use the dead fish for fertilizer. The looney left has bitten off way more than it can chew and the consequences are only just beginning.

ORconservative on September 18, 2009 at 4:38 PM

This is madness. Fox News should be reporting on this weekly.

Hannity allowed some environmentalist on the show to discuss the issue, and, as is the usual for Hannity, he wasn’t prepared to debate the issue. As a result, I thought Hannity got petty, cut the environmentalist off, and stammered idiotic points. It made the legitimate concerns of these farmers seem somewhat less sympathetic. Hannity can be a meathead at inopportune times.

BuckeyeSam on September 18, 2009 at 4:39 PM

If Schwarzenegger was brave enough, he’d make this a state’s right case and turn the water on despite the feds.

This is a really relevant case regarding the tyranny of the federal government.

amkun on September 18, 2009 at 4:40 PM

This is how they operate in Sudan. The rich call the shots and starve the poor.

This is intentional. Katrina was a storm. This is deliberate.

If these communities were black, they wouldn’t dream of this.

seven on September 18, 2009 at 4:42 PM

If Schwarzenegger was brave enough, he’d make this a state’s right case and turn the water on despite the feds.

This is a really relevant case regarding the tyranny of the federal government.

amkun on September 18, 2009 at 4:40 PM

Amen. There is no reason Americans should tolerate having their livelihood destroyed by the government. If Schwarzenegger is too much of a pansy to do anything, these people should grab their guns and go turn the pumps on themselves. It is outrageous!

JohnW on September 18, 2009 at 4:44 PM

If Schwarzenegger was brave enough
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I about fell out of my chair laughing when Sean said he was going to be on!The guy is more moderate than mccain,he’s the reason the state is in such bad shape!:)

ohiobabe on September 18, 2009 at 4:45 PM

amkun on September 18, 2009 at 4:33 PM

my previous post has the link to a timeline. But here it is again:

http://www.povertyandhunger.org/CongressCreatedDustBowlTimeLine.html

jbh45 on September 18, 2009 at 4:47 PM

The slogan of those that voted for Obama: “Hey, what’s with that?”

Suckers!

Hening on September 18, 2009 at 4:47 PM

When I saw the farmland it reminded of Quantum of Solace with Daniel Craig.

ohiobabe on September 18, 2009 at 4:47 PM

For those who were lucky enough to have driven through these farmlands when they were producing, today’s contrary sight is stunning. For people who farm in one of the most productive areas in the world to be starving is good evidence of the effect of government regulation.

GaltBlvnAtty on September 18, 2009 at 4:48 PM

Ed,

I agree up to a point, but you really should read about problems with water in the West. There simply isn’t enough to go around. This fight with environmentalists is nothing compared to what’s been going on between agriculture and the cities throughout the West.

NPP on September 18, 2009 at 4:49 PM

This is an absolute outrage to me! I cannot think of any good reason that a smelt or a salmon is more important than a person. I am really interested in hearing the particular reason for this drastic measure from the person who authorized it. I agree with the person who said that Hannity was not prepared to debate the environmentalist though. If you are going to have a guest on your program you should at least allow them to speak and not talk over them. Let them make their point and then rip them to shreds if you have the capacity.

ReneePA on September 18, 2009 at 4:50 PM

Gunslinger on September 18, 2009 at 4:36 PM

Isn’t fish stocking way down due to lawsuits as well? Seem to remember reading somthing about it…

Romeo13 on September 18, 2009 at 4:50 PM

This is madness. Fox News should be reporting on this weekly.

Hannity allowed some environmentalist on the show to discuss the issue, and, as is the usual for Hannity, he wasn’t prepared to debate the issue. As a result, I thought Hannity got petty, cut the environmentalist off, and stammered idiotic points. It made the legitimate concerns of these farmers seem somewhat less sympathetic. Hannity can be a meathead at inopportune times.

BuckeyeSam on September 18, 2009 at 4:39 PM
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I agree totally,I understand the importance of this but I couldn’t help but wonder if he’s concerned about Beck and his ratings and how popular he is getting.

ohiobabe on September 18, 2009 at 4:50 PM

Just another way to starve people into depending on the federal government. This is outrageous and I don’t think for a minute it is not intentional.

mimi1220 on September 18, 2009 at 4:54 PM

More birds for the windmills to chop-up.

WashJeff on September 18, 2009 at 4:33 PM
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Yes,and what if crime goes up?Hilarious!!!

ohiobabe on September 18, 2009 at 4:55 PM

Hugh Hewitt covered this a few weeks back. Being an environmental lawyer, or whatever he’s called, he didn’t have too many nice things to say about it. It doesn’t surprise me. Cali is too stupid to exist.

Sponge on September 18, 2009 at 4:56 PM

I stand in total solidarity with the San Joaquin Valley farmers. I’d like to get Michelle Obama, on board since she’s a tireless advocate for locally grown produce and complains hysterically, “There are times when putting together a healthy meal is harder than you might imagine.”

Buy Danish on September 18, 2009 at 4:56 PM

The salmon poulation, that numbered as high as one million in 2003, has crashed to under 70,000 in the last 2 years. The poor irrigation techniques of the central valley(s) have resulted in the naturally occuring selenium and arsenic to leach to the surface, polluting the runoff.

Gunslinger on September 18, 2009 at 4:36 PM

Then they should regulate the irrigation to reduce the selenium and arsenic. Not prohibit it just because there happen to be some trash fish.

pedestrian on September 18, 2009 at 4:57 PM

Here’s where the farmers get together and hire someone to eliminate the Delta Smelt. No smelt, no reason to divert the water. Unlike all these cities building rail systems, sometimes 19th century solutions can work for 21st century problems.

Kafir on September 18, 2009 at 4:05 PM
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I’m surprised it hasn’t been done already,farmers are a strong,independent bunch.

ohiobabe on September 18, 2009 at 4:58 PM

Can someone please explain when this began and who ordered it?

amkun on September 18, 2009 at 4:33 PM

This stench came from a Federal judge. He ruled the pumps would hurt the fishies.
The suit was filed by the

But in his ruling, Judge Oliver W. Wanger of the U.S. District Court in Fresno wrote, “The Delta smelt is undisputedly in jeopardy as to its survival and recovery. The 2005 BiOp’s ‘no jeopardy’ finding is arbitrary, capricious, and contrary to law….

“earthjustice” is the activist group.

they want revenge against the farmers.

seven on September 18, 2009 at 5:03 PM

The salmon poulation, that numbered as high as one million in 2003, has crashed to under 70,000 in the last 2 years. The poor irrigation techniques of the central valley(s) have resulted in the naturally occuring selenium and arsenic to leach to the surface, polluting the runoff.

Gunslinger on September 18, 2009 at 4:36 PM

Could this be resolved with better irrigation techniques? Or is this more about the fight over water in the dry west?

Much as I feel sorry for us denizens of the dreary northeast, one thing we pretty much never have to worry about is a lack of water.

piglet on September 18, 2009 at 5:05 PM

For thousands of years California has had sever droughts, what’s changed in the last 40 years is the population has exploded and the water system ideology has gone from building the needed water projects to if it looks pretty, no water project.

This is purely the result of putting children in charge that listen to other children all of which live in a fantasy world.

Californians have gone out of their way to create a disaster to appease aesthetics and now the fully predicted catastrophic consequences (chickens) are coming home to roost.

California has plenty of snow melt and plenty of need for hydroelectric projects (we buy electricity from other states, sound familiar, like oil?) but gerrymandered kindergartners are at the wheel.

Speakup on September 18, 2009 at 5:06 PM

In 1971, the Sierra Club Legal Defense Fund was founded as a nonprofit law firm to serve as a legal arm to the Club’s grassroots operation. In 1998, its name was changed to the EarthJustice Legal Defense Fund. (It now operates simply as “EarthJustice.”) EarthJustice exists to use the courts as a weapon against businesses and public agencies, in the hope of forcing them to operate in a manner acceptable to the Sierra Club. EarthJustice’s aggressive legal posture regarding everything from livestock farms to mining doesn’t harm the Club’s reputation as much as it might, since few members of the public realize that the two groups work hand in glove. Earthjustice sued on behalf of the Sierra Club 38 times in 2003 alone.

From activistcash.com

daesleeper on September 18, 2009 at 5:09 PM

The lack of produce from this formerly successful agricultural area will hike prices across the nation — and could make us more dependent on agricultural imports:

And the “genius” in the White House will respond with a punitive tariff on imported produce because of the lost jobs.

At the same time if you voted for the clown-in-chief you’ll get no pity from me.

jdkchem on September 18, 2009 at 5:16 PM

Judge Wanger is just the tool to help them. I hope when he’s swallowing his dinner, the news shows all of the people in line thanks to him.

You have to be billiantly stupid to not know that no water equals no farming, no food and no work.

meMC on September 18, 2009 at 5:16 PM

There is an easy fix, and it’s right there on their flag. It is the REPUBLIC of California. Open the pipes and guard it with the California National Guard. Problem solved. Maybe after the guard shoots a few Eco-Nazi’s, they’ll back off.

cdn.infidel on September 18, 2009 at 5:17 PM

cdn.infidel
That could work. They don’t care about people. What’s one less human on earth? They’ll just brainwash more eco-nazis.

meMC on September 18, 2009 at 5:21 PM

Mrs. obie’s garden looks like Central California today, not because of water problems, but because she didn’t work it.

rjoco1 on September 18, 2009 at 5:23 PM

None of this has anything to do with smelt or salmon.

They are just the pretext. I heard the nasty female dog who was doing a lot of work on this being interviewed on Hewitt’s show. A couple of times she let slip that the real problem was the “greedy growers” that used more water than then needed all for the sake of (pardon the offensive word) profit. gasp!

Drill_Thrawl on September 18, 2009 at 5:23 PM

If they need the smelt for the delta’s eco system, why don’t they create smelt farms, like trout farms. It would create jobs and save the smelt too. If they did that, wouldn’t everyone win? Give them some of the stimulus money to help start up smelt farms. It would certainly be a better way of spending some of the stimulus money compared to a majority of the crap in that bill.

Live in northern California and we drove down to Annaheim a few weeks ago. It was so sad to see everything dried up. Lots of signs along the road saying something like “Congress created dust bowl”. It did look like a dust bowl. :(

artchick on September 18, 2009 at 5:26 PM

Gunslinger — can we capture the runoff and treat it of is more information needed – I wonder if the Israelis could lend assistance .

wheels on September 18, 2009 at 5:27 PM

did you hear they just killed the Mojave Desert Solar Farm? Company who was going to build it caved…. and who killed it? the ENVIROS!

Romeo13 on September 18, 2009 at 4:34 PM

I hadn’t so I looked it up: Solar energy firm drops plan for project in Mojave Desert

LarryD on September 18, 2009 at 5:28 PM

I heard the nasty female dog who was doing a lot of work on this being interviewed on Hewitt’s show. A couple of times she let slip that the real problem was the “greedy growers” that used more water than then needed all for the sake of (pardon the offensive word) profit.

Figures. Enviromentalist wackos are essentially socialists. It’s what El Rushbo said a long time ago. They’re watermelons. Green on the outside, red on the inside.

pdigaudio on September 18, 2009 at 5:31 PM

Sheer speculation:

I’ve lived in Northern California for all of my 42 years. I notice that the trend for the mega-rich is Land Speculatorion / Land Development. Most of the major political players in CA are one of two things: Land Speculators / Developers or Lawyers.

Last Dem who ran for Governor in 2006? Phil Angelides. How did he make his money? Real Estate Development.

Land and water are the new Gold in California.

Salt the farm land by taking away water rights, and the land becomes much cheaper. MUCH cheaper. As a Land Speculator, you scoop in, buy it cheap, sit on it for a few years as the cycle completes, and you’re positioned for selling or developing in the next up cycle.

I don’t begrudge them their opportunity to make money – please, by all means make all you can.

But I see a shameless use of political connections to manipulate the market.

1 Set the rules.

2 The rules destroy existing families, farms, & businesses.

3 The rules devalue the land.

4 Steal the devalued land.

5 Re-zone the devalued land so that the land is instantly valuable again.

6 Sell or develop the land.

7 Have a party.

8 Run for office.

Their connections allow them to set the framework, and establish the rules in their own favor. By doing so, they are destroying families, the rich resource that is the central valley, and California’s long legacy of bounty and success.

juanito on September 18, 2009 at 5:35 PM

So for as sorry as I feel for them I have to say…they are the vicitms of the circumstances they created.

milwife88 on September 18, 2009 at 3:47 PM

No, they’re not. The Central Valley, much like upstate New York, is pretty consistently conservative, but at the mercy of the large, urban liberal populations in the state that couldn’t give a tinker’s damn about farming except to use it as target for their activism.

evergreen on September 18, 2009 at 5:38 PM

This is yet another example of radical environmentalists inflicting unnecessary damage to farming and property rights.

“The end justifies the means”. Stop communism now!

Johan Klaus on September 18, 2009 at 5:41 PM

evergreen on September 18, 2009 at 5:38 PM

They will change their minds when they get hungry.

Johan Klaus on September 18, 2009 at 5:43 PM

LarryD on September 18, 2009 at 5:28 PM

Yeah… pretty funny that they killed it over things like the BigHorn sheep… the same sheep I see right next to Interstate 70 when I go skiing out of Denver…

such a… fragile species… kinda like the pictures of all the wildlife around the pipeline up in Alaska… after it was built… they sure didn’t seem to care…

Romeo13 on September 18, 2009 at 5:45 PM

They’re watermelons. Green on the outside, red on the inside.

pdigaudio on September 18, 2009 at 5:31 PM
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That’s great! I have been listening to Elrushie for about a year now.These kind of peeps never seem to surprise him.

ohiobabe on September 18, 2009 at 5:49 PM

So, on one hand we’re told to eat more fruits and vegetables, and on the other starve out the very people providing them. In our heathcare insurance reform bill we’ll end up shutting off the care of both our elderly and infants needing medical intervention to survive. It’s all making perfect sense. Rahm’s bro and his eugenics buddies advising a guy in a very high office that’s steeped in Saul Alinsky (sp?).

Anybody been to the wine country lately to see how Pelosi’s vineyards are doing?

24K lady on September 18, 2009 at 5:53 PM

Anybody been to the wine country lately to see how Pelosi’s vineyards are doing?

24K lady on September 18, 2009 at 5:53 PM

Was there back in July – they are doing Great!

juanito on September 18, 2009 at 5:55 PM

did you hear they just killed the Mojave Desert Solar Farm? Company who was going to build it caved…. and who killed it? the ENVIROS!

Romeo13 on September 18, 2009 at 4:34 PM

Yes, kill desalination, kill solar power, kill nuclear, brag about being green while your citizens have to pay exorbitant prices to import black energy from other states. Don’t go looking for logic in it, because there isn’t any.

evergreen on September 18, 2009 at 5:58 PM

juanito @5:55PM
Vineyards doing Great! I’m shocked, shocked I tell ya. Only proves she doesn’t give a rip about the farmers growing food, otherwise, she’d share her water out of solidarity.

24K lady on September 18, 2009 at 5:58 PM

Well, I guess the question is, who was there first? The farmers or the city slickers in LA, who need all this water (going off the water shortage argument).

If it’s a damn smelt issue, let the farmers filter the runoff, then pass the price on to consumers.

The only thing to do is to publicize all of this crap. We can’t build nuke power, we can’t drill, we can’t grow crops, we can’t cut down trees. This kind of crap needs to be summed up, put into catchy ads, and people need to know what voting for liberals (who appoint idiot judges who rule in favor of enviro-nutjobs) gets them. Simple.

At any rate, some governor (won’t be Arnold) will eventually have to step up and give the fed a big “eff you”. I’m relishing the day that happens.

With the population rising, this is no time to be hampering agriculture, even more!

reaganaut on September 18, 2009 at 6:01 PM

milwife88 on September 18, 2009 at 3:47 PM

Unfortunately, California is represented by those in LA and SF for the most part. But those of us who live in the Central Valley tend to vote conservative. Even Fresno which has its own ACORN office votes conservative more often than not–although we did go to Obama last Nov. :(

mauipundit on September 18, 2009 at 6:04 PM

I live about 50 miles from that farm, so I’ve been following it pretty closely. This is a hot topic in the area to say the least. To answer some of the questions that have been posed:

It all started with radical environmentalists. Many of them including Pelosi’s partner in crime George Miller, feel that all farmers that are operating in the San Joaquin Valley, are doing so ILLEGALLY. I have no idea where that logic comes from , but that is what they say. Because of this view, SJV farmers are to be eliminated, and since most of them are republicans that turn a profit, they are even more of a target. The Smelt issue was merely a means to an end. They probably don’t really care about a fish that is not a valuable part of the ecosystem, not used for food, and NOT ENDANGERED. They claim that it is “threatened” in order to get a judge to rule in their favor so they can shut off water flow to the farms. It is environmentalism at its worst, and it has cost jobs, cost families their farms and life savings in some cases, and it is slowly killing the economy of the SJV and the state as a whole.

The SJV has more than one source of water though. The east side of the valley is doing OK – it is fed mostly by direct feed from the rivers and dams in the foothills via a network of canal systems. The water that goes to the west side (which is where Hannity did the show) is more dependent on water that is pumped from the Stockton Delta area. These are the pumps that were shut off for most of this year. The pumps are on now because the previous judges ruling for the smelt has expired, but it is too late to save this growing season for most farmers. The pumps are only running temporarily until the next ruling takes effect – this time because of supposed effects to other species including killer whales (really). The effort now is to get an order in place to overrule that and keep the pumps on for the long term – enough to insure that next year’s season can be productive. If the growers don’t have faith that the water will be there, they won’t make the investment needed early in the year. Some crops, like corn for example, can take a year off if needed and then start up again with no problem. Once a vineyard or orchard dies, it’s dead. You have to plant from scratch and it takes several years of growth from to produce new sellable fruit.

Liberal arguments that you will hear will include:
The pumps ARE on! – They are now, but this is recent, and it is only temporary.
The farmers SOLD their water to Socal – From what I have been able to find, there is only supposed to be ONE farmer that has actually done this.
Global warming is the cause of the draught – there is no draught, there is a shortage, but the water we need is there and it is flowing out to the sea instead of being used.

It amazes me that even liberals cannot see that overall economic impact that this is having. It is eroding the CA tax base at the worst possible time for it, and it will cause higher food costs across the country. In many cases, you will probably be seeing imported produce instead of product that could have come from the USA.

JC in CA on September 18, 2009 at 6:07 PM

This is nuts. The American people need the food that is produced there. This is a waste.

Terrye on September 18, 2009 at 6:07 PM

For thousands of years California has had sever droughts, what’s changed in the last 40 years is the population has exploded and the water system ideology has gone from building the needed water projects to if it looks pretty, no water project.

Ya, this is something that’s always bugged me. If you live somewhere, and there’s no water – move.

Kind of like, if you live in a city below sea level, surrounded by water, and it floods – tough crap.

If you build a house in the middle of a forest known for fires, and it burns, tough crap. Why should someone else risk their life to save your ill-placed home, so you can have a nice view.

If you live somewhere there are no jobs – move. (OK that one is a little tougher these days with Oboobi wrecking the economy).

This is what humans have been doing for centuries. Population centers come and go, humans shift to where food is, to where water is.

If enviro-wackos are keeping you thirsty and hungry, send their asses packing by any means necessary.

Man, it just bugs the crap out of me – this country is the people, not the damn courts, not the damn government.

reaganaut on September 18, 2009 at 6:12 PM

juanito @5:55PM
Vineyards doing Great! I’m shocked, shocked I tell ya. Only proves she doesn’t give a rip about the farmers growing food, otherwise, she’d share her water out of solidarity.

24K lady on September 18, 2009 at 5:58 PM

And Madame Speaker’s response is: “did you say something?”

juanito on September 18, 2009 at 6:12 PM

Can someone please explain when this began and who ordered it?

amkun on September 18, 2009 at 4:33 PM

August 3rd, 1966 LBJ

Jeff from WI on September 18, 2009 at 6:13 PM

This is one of those live by the sword die by the sword moments. The reason the Central Valley is the vegetable garden of America is because of the Federal Government which built the irrigation canals and other works diverting the water as part of the Central Valley Project. The water delivered to the farmers is sold at a much lower rate than what homeowners pay. The work force that works the fields are now exclusively illegals and the tax payer gets stuck footing the bill for the social costs of the workers and their families.

MichaelJ68 on September 18, 2009 at 6:16 PM

I always thought, that if water is such a commodity, why can’t we focus on desalinization research?

We have the schools, and the research facilities. Those are “Green Jobs”. The marketing for scientists would be easy:

Come to the Golden State, make a fortune, change the world. Have lunch at the beach.

That would be money better spent that our current voter approved, in debit to our eyeballs because of the bond re-payment, Stem Cell Research Boondoggle.

I mean, we’ve got this little source right next to us called, uhmmm, I dunno, the Pacific Ocean?

juanito on September 18, 2009 at 6:17 PM

JC in CA @6:07PM
Thank you for your comments. Everything you said is the gospel truth.

If our fearless leader amnesties all those in CA that are illegal, it will instantly turn into the biggest welfare endeavour ever attempted in history.

I can’t wait for the vegetarians and vegans to start screaming when they find out that most of the produce imported is contaminated with pollutants and other nasty stuff that would never be allowed from our farmers.

24K lady on September 18, 2009 at 6:20 PM

1930s

baldilocks on September 18, 2009 at 6:21 PM

1930s Soviet Union, that is.

baldilocks on September 18, 2009 at 6:22 PM

I always thought, that if water is such a commodity, why can’t we focus on desalinization research?

The water is there for the most part. We have a STORAGE problem. Environmentalists won’t let us build any more dams and reservoirs that we need to keep up with the population growth. If we could do that, we’d be fine. In addition to blocking new dams, the real wackos want to destroy some of the ones we already have – such as hetch-hetchy, which feeds the majority to San Francisco.

JC in CA on September 18, 2009 at 6:26 PM

JC in CA on September 18, 2009 at 6:26 PM

Grew up in Sacramento, now live in the El Dorado foothills, so I am painfully aware of the water issues. In conjunction with that, the North / South issues as well.

I still think that it would be a winning and profitable position to go with storage & desalinization, and then sell it to the world.

juanito on September 18, 2009 at 6:29 PM

While there certainly has to be a better way, and I am absolutely positive the eco-terrorists have escalated this issue benyond all reason. It should be pointed out that the delta smelt is a prime contributor to the eco-chain that that is essential to the multi-billion dollar salmon industry. Which is indeed a food fish, and a rather tasty one at that.

*Disclosure: I come from a salmon fishing community in northern CA, and did a couple of seasons in AK cashing in on the salmon run.

Archimedes on September 18, 2009 at 6:30 PM

This is administration is quickly & systematically dedeveloping the USA.

mamagetsamini on September 18, 2009 at 6:33 PM

I live in Fresno and see first hand what is going on in the County and the Valley. The problem is on the west side of the San Joaquin, not the east side. The east and west side is generally divided by Highway 99.

If you drive the nearly 300 mile length of Highway 99 from Bakersfield to Sacramento you see nothing but green fields of alfalfa, grapes, almonds, dairies, peaches, pistachios, corn and more recently pomegranates.

The west side of the Valley as viewed from Interstate 5 on the other hand is mostly dry and desert like due to the water cut off. Hundreds of farming families as well as some corporate farms are affected. We have water in Fresno, in fact I would argue this is the greenest city in the state. Everything grows here.

The west side farmers are a victim of state and national politics, and everyone here knows it. California’s Central Valley votes Republican, where the north and south ends of the state vote democrat.

The fact of the matter is the smelt is an excuse to kill off the farmer (conservative) opposition in the center of the state. If the farmers go broke, and they are they will move on just like the victims of the Oklahoma dust bowl of the 1930′s.

Wild idea? No, it is widely discussed in the Valley. Ask why Feinstein, Boxer and the Congressional Dims from California stonewall every proposed Bill to fix the problem and open the pumps.

Mendota and Huron, both west side cities sport 40% plus unemployment. These farm workers are hard working and family oriented. What has happened to the farmers, farm workers and suppliers of the industry is as our former Mayor said last night on Hannity, domestic terror.

FireBlogger on September 18, 2009 at 6:37 PM

The Israeli’s have been involved with desalinization for some years and do sell the equipment for seawater reverse osmosis. I’m sure adding a desalinization plant to the pristine coastline in CA would be compared to adding more offshore drilling sights. It would offend the gazillionaire homeowners.

24K lady on September 18, 2009 at 6:39 PM

We have people who utilize the courts for the sole purpose of destroying any chance of human growth. Since allowing environmentalists the standing to sue almost any project on those grounds, the green movement has used it to stop thousands of projects based upon irrigation, power, development, water, natural resources etc.

We are told constantly that we need to use environmentally friendly sources except those aren’t permissible. We are told about the need to be more organic and get in touch with nature, except we have to buy our food from the chinese. We are told that animal killing is cruel, that they should be granted rights at the same time these same people violate the law. At what point do you just say “Enough is enough”? Strip the standing of the environmentalist in cases like this and replace the EPA with something more like the FDA

Defector01 on September 18, 2009 at 6:42 PM

You know that machine that cuts down trees and strips them of bark and branches in 5 seconds? We should do that to all the environuts.

Coronagold on September 18, 2009 at 6:46 PM

Obama and his administration is doing 10 times more for the Conservative Movement than George W Bush could have ever hoped to do.

Obama could wipeout the entire Unemployment problem just by turning the water back on. If he keeps going the way he is, he will set the Progressive Movement back 100 years.

PappaMac on September 18, 2009 at 7:03 PM

I wonder how it would be portrayed if these farmers took the water situation into their own hands like the people ACORN helped to get back into the homes they stopped paying for?

The Monster on September 18, 2009 at 7:11 PM

This stench came from a Federal judge. He ruled the pumps would hurt the fishies.
The suit was filed by the

But in his ruling, Judge Oliver W. Wanger of the U.S. District Court in Fresno wrote, “The Delta smelt is undisputedly in jeopardy as to its survival and recovery. The 2005 BiOp’s ‘no jeopardy’ finding is arbitrary, capricious, and contrary to law….
“earthjustice” is the activist group.

they want revenge against the farmers.

seven on September 18, 2009 at 5:03 PM

The big story underlying this is the explosion in suits filed since BHO took office. EPA on average heard 1 endangered species case per year, there have been over 700 filed so far since 1/20/09. These cases regularly are settled in court, sometimes going one way, sometimes another. But over 700 is “entirely unprecedented” according an EPA spokesperson.

Sounds like “overwhelming the system” to me, can you Cloward/Piven?

Archimedes on September 18, 2009 at 7:38 PM

Sorry for the echo here but this isn’t a partisan issue. This is an issue of survival and national defense. Without food we as a nation are toast. The water must be turned back on and there is always more than one solution for this problem. America its time to recall our greatness and return to it. Tell the rest of the world to go to HELL if they don’t like it. We need to develop ALL ENERGY SOURCES that are available not just a few. We need to bring back ALL MANUFACTURING JOBS to the United States of America. We as a nation import so much GARBAGE from China and wonder why our real standard of living is sinking fast. I worked in the independent retail business for 14 years repairing, and selling sewing machines and vacuum cleaners. I saw the results from the rapid decline of quality and the rapid increase of imported garbage. An example of this is the Singer Sewing Machine company. The owner of the store where I worked had been a Singer dealer when they still had company owned stores. He saw the decline over the 45 years he was in the business. Singer used to make a sewing machine with a metal frame and steel gears. In the mid 1960′s they went to plastic gears and about 1985 to plastic frames for the machines. To a sewing machine mechanic those machines were and are a JOKE. Vacuum cleaners followed the same path. There maybe a few good brands left like Panasonic, Simplicity, Riccar, and Sanyo but ALL of the vacuums sold in the discount DUMPS are garbage. One brand actually had me in fear for my customer’s lives. This vacuum cleaner design was a fire hazard from day one.
Most of the imported products don’t last and are discarded in landfills costing taxpayer dollars to build more landfills. The job losses from making these products are astronomical when an individual follows the chain of logic.

I apologize for the long post but this is what I observed in just one small industry in the USA. As I mentioned above these issues aren’t partisan they affect all of us.

Best Regards

hamradio on September 18, 2009 at 7:39 PM

If Paul Rodriguez and others like him are so concerned about the people in the valley, they should have voted smarter in 2008. Think they will vote more intelligently in 2012?

MeAlice on September 18, 2009 at 7:51 PM

Aside from being a useless fish the delta smelt is not that endangered. It appears that the federal government is simply using the smelt as an excuse to control the lives of the people who live in the Central Valley, as well as a huge chunk of Kalifornia property. It’s all part of Barry’s “scorched earth policy.”

Oh, did I mention the area is mostly Republican/Conservative?

Barb Dwyer on September 18, 2009 at 7:54 PM

This is nothing short of a travesty

ChalkPerson on September 18, 2009 at 7:55 PM

We should not allow the environmentalist to eat or drink. They can get their nutrients from the sun.

the Coondawg on September 18, 2009 at 8:34 PM

Just another way to starve people into depending on the federal government. This is outrageous and I don’t think for a minute it is not intentional.

mimi1220 on September 18, 2009 at 4:54 PM

Aside from being a useless fish the delta smelt is not that endangered. It appears that the federal government is simply using the smelt as an excuse to control the lives of the people who live in the Central Valley, as well as a huge chunk of Kalifornia property. It’s all part of Barry’s “scorched earth policy.”

Oh, did I mention the area is mostly Republican/Conservative?

Barb Dwyer on September 18, 2009 at 7:54 PM

Oh swell. We’re closer to Stalin than I realized.

We were once the bread basket of the world. The environuts won’t stop us until we all starve to death.

We should not allow the environmentalist to eat or drink. They can get their nutrients from the sun.

the Coondawg on September 18, 2009 at 8:34 PM

Agreed. If one of ‘em asks me for water, I’m bringing this up.

Chaz706 on September 18, 2009 at 8:47 PM

Statist dogma for gaining power: “Health care is ‘fair,’ but famine is slammin’.”

Blacksmith on September 18, 2009 at 8:52 PM

From what I see in N.J. if we had to go back to nature most libs would to death.Most of the libs are helpless.

Farfed on September 18, 2009 at 9:12 PM

This story and all the others just like it bring to mind the story of four boxes.

1. Soap Box.
2. Jury Box.
3. Ballot Box.
4. Ammo Box.

This problem in California, and all the other problems of a similar nature are going to require Box number 4 to effect a permanent resolution.

mrpeabody on September 18, 2009 at 9:54 PM

How can this not put California into play for the ’10 and ’12 elections?

Wingo on September 19, 2009 at 12:00 AM

This is sickening. I am absolutely infuriated by this. Watching those videos…seeing those farmers…that dry field…tears came to my eyes. I’ve been in the San Joaquin valley enough that it feels like a second home. Husband has family down there. It’s not a farming family, and I’m not too fond of the heat down there but I love looking at the seemingly endless fields of farms and orchards…olives, almonds, cotton, tomatoes, peaches, grapes, etc. every time we visit. Each time we return I’ve been saddened to see more development as people move further out of San Francisco seeking cheaper places to live (people actually commute from the Central Valley to the city). It would hurt tremendously to see the farmlands go. It hurts even now to know these farmers are suffering, all for stupid, leftist ideology.

What’s really crazy is a lot of these farmers are Hispanic. Where’s the leftist’s support for the Latinos in this?? This alone should start making conservatives out of the Hispanic population.

Another thing–what about state’s rights? Why doesn’t Schwarzenneger put his foot down and say, “screw you, Federal Government, California is a sovereign state and can regulate its own water–!!” Somebody please explain to me why he can’t. I don’t understand it.

This just makes me sick, on top of everything else the left does that makes me ill every single darn day.

theotherone on September 19, 2009 at 12:01 AM

I was raised about 30 miles east of where Sean had the show. I don’t know if it was covered, but, the San Joaguin Valley is one of the Reddest parts of California. Could what has happened be part of a political payback to the people of the area? Just wondering, it could be a way of keeping the people in line…..?

DL13 on September 19, 2009 at 12:33 AM

In a way, all civilization “threatens” wildlife. Do the enviros want us to go back and live in caves?

Wait, I know the answer to that…

PattyJ on September 19, 2009 at 1:39 AM

Northern California has a bunch of rivers.
There’s the Napa River,
the Russian River,
the Garcia River,
the Navarro,
the Noyo, the Mattole, the Eel River,
the Van Duzen, the Mad, the Trinity,
the New River, the Salmon, the Klamith, the Smith and the Redwood river.

Not one of these rivers is fed by the Sacramento SanJoaquin river.

Not one of them.

But all of these rivers are suffering the same depletion of Salmon, Green Stugeon, and Steelhead trout.

You tell me. If every river is suffering a depletion of these species of fish, the main common thread being they migrate to the ocean, why is it that the Salmon, Green Sturgeon, Steelhead and Delta Smelt (which also migrates back and forth to the ocean) of the Sacramento river are the only ones whose danger is blaimed on water diversions?

Why are all the rest of these rivers that are not diverting water suffering low fish counts?

Couldn’t there be something else beside flow rate behind the low fish counts?

papertiger on September 19, 2009 at 1:51 AM

They’re Republicans. Therefore they must suffer. Maybe we need to cut off the water to San Francisco, instead.

{^_^}

herself on September 19, 2009 at 2:37 AM

a little o.t. but it relates;

i grew up near Stockton/Sacramento. i watched the
oncoming demise of large farm tracts that gave way
to cheaply built housing projects. There was a
time when you could drive for miles in rich
golden fields of alfalfa, tomatoes, beets, etc.
the last time i drove around Elk Grove, i almost
cried. The farm land had been carved up, sold
off by lazy sons and daughters of hard working farmers.
Much of the incredibly rich land has been asphalted over with stupid silly hastily built shopping malls and pastel colored tract homes with cute little street names.
With the housing boom and crash; many of those businesses
are boarded up now and the houses are empty with foreclosure.
A compounding problem is peak oil; and our
outrageously dumb and blind politicians who refuse to
see the reality of our reliance on foreign oil.
This way of life is way past dead. We have
not prepared for a future, so we may not have
one. But I’ve strayed far from the subject at
hand. Greed and stupidity is what has killed the
farming and productivity of this lovely San Joaquin
valley.

falderal on September 19, 2009 at 2:53 AM

I thought these people believed in evolution. Let the smelt evolve or disappear. This is so ridiculous that I have to believe there is another story that we aren’t seeing. Who benefits from this farm land laying fallow?

Cindy Munford on September 19, 2009 at 7:06 AM

As bad as this situation is, it’s just the beginning of what the radical environmenalists want to do to us, with the full power of the government behind them. They won’t stop this madness until we are forced to live in squalor again.

This movement must be stopped. The EPA must be abolished and the Endangered Species Act repealed immediately. Environmental issues must be handled at the state level, not the national level. Arnold owes it to the people of his state to defy this travesty, take command of this situation and display true leadership by turning on the water to this area.

BackwardsBoy on September 19, 2009 at 9:31 AM

Again this proves we are not truly a violent nation; if we where, there would be a minor revolution there and the water would be flowing unless the government sent in troops. But I wonder how long the people will follow the “rule of law” when the law has been high jacked by those who are irrational and it is not their livelihood that is being taken away. My experience has been that the perpetrators of these injustices live outside of the impacted area and have only an ideological vested interest in these matters.

amr on September 19, 2009 at 10:06 AM

The environmentalists didn’t this without the help of Pelosi & the EPA. This is the kind of govt. we have now. It’s the same kind of tyranny the original Americans fought against in the American Revolution (King George III). It’s being forced on all of us without our consent!

Yeah, I also read that new,underground book & it does tell about what going to happen nxt. It’s great!! I bought a 2 for my friends & it’s about a small town in America that does stand up to Federal tyranny & ends up starting the 2nd American Revolution.

People, it’s time to “make your own history & leave a legacy for your grandchildren”. This may be the only time in your life that there is a bigger cause/movement to join that ever before. Read it…& see what could happen to your hometown.
(booksbyoliver.com)

ctcb05 on September 19, 2009 at 11:59 AM

This fish isn’t even endangered.

This is like what the Soviet Union did to the Ukraine. Bad science was part of the cause then too: Lysenko’s criminally bad theories that rejected genetics held sway for over a generation, and led to massive crop failures. Rather than have the whole country feel the pain, Stalin took food from the Ukraine and deployed the army to enforce the Ukrainian border.

Progressives have no compassion for humans at all. It’s pointless to even appeal to their humanity. Worship of an Earth God comes first.

theCork on September 19, 2009 at 1:42 PM

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