Video: Savings are a myth

posted at 10:12 am on September 18, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

Back in the day, Barack Obama really did work as a mythbuster. In this clip from Naked Emperor News and Breitbart TV, Obama explains that any health-care overhaul will require $100 billion a year in new spending, for which Obama would push new taxes as a funding mechanism. Cutting red tape and “profits” out of the existing system would not be enough to fund a transition to a new system. Medicare and Medicaid, he warns, get used by politicians to manipulate budgets at the expense of health-care providers.

Quite the change, yes? Of course, this version of Obama spoke in 2007:

Maybe the White House should feature this video on its mythbusting page. It does a much better job than the self-serving effluvium one finds there now. Of course cutting out profits won’t save enough to expand coverage, for two reasons. First, the profit margin in the health-care industry is between 4-5% in a good year, hardly a windfall level of profit in the American economy. Second, it’s the profit motive that keeps insurance providers efficient and effective, especially at eliminating waste, fraud, and abuse, which the government systems have in abundance. Why? They don’t compete, and have no particular incentives to operate efficiently.

Expanding coverage will cost money. One does not lose money on a per-person basis but make it up in volume; that line is a joke in the private sector, but policy in the public sector. Obama knew enough two years ago to reject it, but now he’s trying to sell it to the American public. One has to wonder whether Obama unlearned this lesson, or whether he’s selling us snake oil with a big bill coming due later. I’m pretty sure it’s the latter.

Update: It’s not the only myth that Obama’s been spreading lately, either:

After I raised questions about its accuracy, President Obama has dropped from his last two health care speeches an inaccurate reference he made about the health care travails of an Illinois man, whom Obama claimed had died after his insurance company declined to pay for his cancer treatments.

When Obama spoke to Congress about health care reform on Sept. 9, he attempted to put a human face on his push for a provision barring insurance companies from dropping patients with pre-existing medical conditions.

While not citing the person’s name, the president said: “One man from Illinois lost his coverage in the middle of chemotherapy because his insurer found that he hadn’t reported gallstones that he didn’t even know about. They delayed his treatment, and he died because of it.”

It’s just not true, which I pointed out in my Chicago Sun-Times column. I confirmed with the White House that the man Obama was referring to was Otto Raddatz, from a Chicago suburb. His insurance company did indeed yank his coverage in April 2005. But after a fight led by his sister, Peggy, an attorney and the Illinois attorney general, Raddatz got his coverage reinstated in a few weeks and never missed any needed treatments. And he did not die until Jan. 6, 2009.

How did Obama research this anecdote? He read it in Slate, and no one on his staff checked to see if the story was accurate. It’s precisely this kind of expertise that Obama wants to put in charge of your health care.

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Not when you have interest on your share of the national debt that is approaching your house payment in cost.

Mr. Joe on September 18, 2009 at 10:14 AM

Facts are not his friend

bbz123 on September 18, 2009 at 10:15 AM

Naked Emperor News has been consistently OUTSTANDING in exposing The Precedent.

aquaviva on September 18, 2009 at 10:15 AM

You do realize that by repeating his words, you are putting another entry in their “smear” website database, don’t you?

Diane on September 18, 2009 at 10:17 AM

Deficit neutral rides on a unicorn.

Fletch54 on September 18, 2009 at 10:19 AM

How is it that the villagers aren’t at the gates of the White House with torches and pitchforks? How much bad behavior, lies, radical socialism, racism, and arrogance are we supposed to tolerate from the filthy liar in the White House??? What’s it going to take to change this administration?

highhopes on September 18, 2009 at 10:19 AM

This sounds fishy to me!

crazy_legs on September 18, 2009 at 10:19 AM

You do realize that by repeating his words, you are putting another entry in their “smear” website database, don’t you?

Diane on September 18, 2009 at 10:17 AM

The newest smear.

Using verbatim the words spoken by your opponent against his very own words.

How Orwellian.

Holger on September 18, 2009 at 10:20 AM

hey, i am as conservative as anyone here. but having to have an Illinois AG get your health ins. reinstated doesn’t sound like a good thing. my husband is a judge & he doesn’t come close to having the clout of state’s AG.

that said, i agree with everything else.

kelley in virginia on September 18, 2009 at 10:20 AM

Was anything in Obama’s Sep 9th speech not a lie?

faraway on September 18, 2009 at 10:20 AM

It is tought to really pin on Obama what he is: incompetent, subversive, naive, a political genius, a political idiot, is he out to destroy the nation or does he really believe he is helping?

I think just plain evil sums him up pretty well.

Grafted on September 18, 2009 at 10:20 AM

Top-notch research right there, Mr. President. My confidence in your ability to steer an outstanding health care bill through Congress has just skyrocketed.

Spc Steve on September 18, 2009 at 10:21 AM

You do realize that by repeating his words, you are putting another entry in their “smear” website database, don’t you?

Diane on September 18, 2009 at 10:17 AM

It’s okay. Michelle Obama’s on the team now and the filthy liar is lined up for five Sunday appearances and letterman. We’ll all be clamoring for Obamacare by next Wednesday, once he’s explained it to us.

highhopes on September 18, 2009 at 10:21 AM

Naked Emperor News has been consistently OUTSTANDING in exposing The Precedent.

aquaviva on September 18, 2009 at 10:15 AM

She is indeed an unsung hero!!

katy on September 18, 2009 at 10:22 AM

Obama senior adviser David Axelrod said Obama got “the essence” of the Raddatz story “exactly right,”

fake but accurate

faraway on September 18, 2009 at 10:24 AM

Ooops! Does this mean that Obama is now going to CALL HIMSELF OUT?

HondaV65 on September 18, 2009 at 10:24 AM

Michelle is famous for patient dumping schemes. For 300 grand she must have been successful.

seven on September 18, 2009 at 10:24 AM

Facts, like math, are racist!

rbj on September 18, 2009 at 10:24 AM

Classic Leftist fantasy. “Profits” are why health insurance is so expensive. Absolutely no eff’in clue that free market competition among for-profit companies is what keeps prices down.

I can’t wait to see how cheap “profit-free” government monopoly medical insurance will be. Medicare has certainly been a smashing economic success, hasn’t it Barry?

Wait. He’s a Leftist. Can’t be bothered with actual facts.

Cicero43 on September 18, 2009 at 10:25 AM

Sending more $ to Joe Wilson.

redwhiteblue on September 18, 2009 at 10:26 AM

You do realize that by repeating his words, you are putting another entry in their “smear” website database, don’t you?

Diane on September 18, 2009 at 10:17 AM

Notches on the belt. Maybe Ed and AP can put little icons from the site on the front page for each mention, like they do on fighters.

bikermailman on September 18, 2009 at 10:26 AM

The problem that Bury is having is that no one ever challenged him on facts before and he could make them up. Things are different now.

thomasaur on September 18, 2009 at 10:26 AM

Ok, admit it…how many other than I had to look up effluvium?

miConsevative on September 18, 2009 at 10:27 AM

kelley in virginia on September 18, 2009 at 10:20 AM

I think the real point was not whether or not the insurance company acted appropriately, but the way the filthy liar mis-represented the case. I guess the truth- a man from Illinois had his coverage yanked, legal action got it reinstated, and the man went on to live almost four more years without ever missing a treatment isn’t a good enough story.

highhopes on September 18, 2009 at 10:27 AM

How did Obama research this anecdote? He read it in Slate, and no one on his staff checked to see if the story was accurate. It’s precisely this kind of expertise that Obama wants to put in charge of your health care.

Yeah butt….butt, like Dan Rather said, it was fake but accurate, don’t ya know? It’s the sincerity and civility of our president’s rhetoric fabrications that counts.

Rovin on September 18, 2009 at 10:28 AM

Another smear job from HA , using obamas own words against him. How dare you.

the_nile on September 18, 2009 at 10:29 AM

Fortis claimed Raddatz failed to disclose that a 2000 CT scan showed gallstones and an aneurysm. Peggy Raddatz said her brother was never told of those CT findings.

How do you have a CT scan and no one points out that you have gallstones and an aneurysm? You don’t. Fortis didn’t believe him, and neither do I.

faraway on September 18, 2009 at 10:29 AM

Healthcare is such a miserably unruly topic. I still like public option, but the cost of healthcare, in my opinion, isn’t related entirely to that. That’s why they’ll never hit the mark on entirely on the goal of deficit neutral.

There are also problems with the structure of how it’s delivered. Anyone read Blink? It talks about heart attacks and how asking 3 questions can lead to a much higher percentage of accurate treatment in ER rooms. Yet, doctors reject the standard. It doesn’t “feel” right to them.

It’s an interesting discussion, which leads to wondering why doctors have to be so involved all the time, anyway. I sure don’t care if I’m seen by a physician every time. That’s close to padding the bill when they really aren’t doing much but follow up.

Then there’s the issue of over-prescribing/over-treating.

So there are lots of solutions. Setting up a big system to drive solutions, however, is looking pretty impossible.

AnninCA on September 18, 2009 at 10:29 AM

highhopes: oh, i thoroughly agree with you.

and i agree that dealing with an “evil” insurance company will be much easier (whether you are a state’s AG or not) than the federal govt.

when you deal with the Feds, you have to know you will live 10 years just to get a phone call returned.

kelley in virginia on September 18, 2009 at 10:31 AM

Diane on September 18, 2009 at 10:17 AM

Yes…

quoting people = “smear” in the age of Obama.

Joe Caps on September 18, 2009 at 10:32 AM

Raddatz received a stem cell transplant in 2005 after chemotherapy. Peggy Raddatz testified in June that the transplant “was extremely successful. It extended his life approximately 3½ years.” until 2009.

Who is to say that Obama’s Death Panel may have denied him stem cell therapy and he would have died 3 years ago?

faraway on September 18, 2009 at 10:34 AM

On another site I debated with a lefty who claimed that the insurance companies must be making obscene profits because profitability for the industry as a whole improved %500 from 2001 to 2006.

Gee whiz, profits improve as the nation comes out of a recession. He was utterly convinced that profits for the insurance industry was over 30%, and nothing would shake that belief.

MarkTheGreat on September 18, 2009 at 10:34 AM

anninca: do doctors make mistakes? you are damn right they do.

are today’s doctors behind the times? yes, because the knowledge/tech moves faster than any human can absorb & put into practice.

would i rather have doctor today tell me something doesn’t “feel right” or have no doctor at all?

that is question you have to ask yourself.

kelley in virginia on September 18, 2009 at 10:34 AM

Beck should have an “Obama Fact Check” every night and expose every lie. I know, he only has an hour, but…

marklmail on September 18, 2009 at 10:35 AM

When half the country is ignorant, envious and has been fed Liberal garbage since birth via entertainment and public education… This is the result. Welcome to Venezuela.

CCRWM on September 18, 2009 at 10:35 AM

highhopes on September 18, 2009 at 10:21 AM

I agree. He has not been clear enough in his speeches to date.

Please come out and be clear, Barry.

Joe Caps on September 18, 2009 at 10:35 AM

markthegreat: though not a health ins. agent, i was in prop/casualty for years. profits dropping. still dropping. your friend doesn’t read even the most liberal of business pages.

kelley in virginia on September 18, 2009 at 10:36 AM

But after a fight led by his sister, Peggy, an attorney and the Illinois attorney general, Raddatz got his coverage reinstated in a few weeks and never missed any needed treatments. And he did not die until Jan. 6, 2009.

^^This is the bottom line strength of our private health insurance system. Insurance companies can be bullied, shamed, or sued into doing the right thing.

The government CAN NOT BE.

If the government takes over health care – the result will be denials like this without recourse. This type of denial of coverage will be FINAL.

Hell … we can’t get the government now to back off a plan that 56% of Americans fiercely oppose. How is one man going to get his cancer treatments once the government says he can’t have them?

HondaV65 on September 18, 2009 at 10:36 AM

That the insurance company cited in this case screwed up is not the issue.
The unspoken claim is that govt health care will never screw up.

One of the first tactics used by those who favor govt control, is to point out that the free market isn’t perfect.
The proper response to such claims is not to try and pretend that the free market is perfect, but rather to point out that it is less imperfect than is anything govt does.

MarkTheGreat on September 18, 2009 at 10:36 AM

AnninCA on September 18, 2009 at 10:29 AM

Why do you have to see a Doctor every time? LAWSUITS!

If someone went in and was misdiagnosed by a Nurse? Slam dunk for major lawsuit.

But of course, your Dems don’t want Tort reform, as then they’d have to take on the lawyers…

All of the plans the Dems have submited so far will NOT lower the costs of the overall healthcare system, they just reallocate them.

Nothing in there makes drugs cheaper… nothing lowers the instances of extra tests due to Defensive medicine… nothing stops the use of Emergency rooms for primary care…

They are just rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic… as the band plays on…

Romeo13 on September 18, 2009 at 10:37 AM

My favorite is;

“cutting waste, fraud, and abuse.”

What he is telling us, now, is that they do not intend to take any action on the “waste, fraud, and abuse”, until they get this legislation passed!
He’s saying they know how much there is, now, and they’ve known all along, but won’t do anything about it, until they get their wish!

Cybergeezer on September 18, 2009 at 10:37 AM

I think the real point was not whether or not the insurance company acted appropriately stupidly, but the way the filthy liar mis-represented the case. I guess the truth- a man from Illinois had his coverage yanked, legal action got it reinstated, and the man went on to live almost four more years without ever missing a treatment isn’t a good enough story.

highhopes on September 18, 2009 at 10:27 AM

FIFY

Joe Caps on September 18, 2009 at 10:38 AM

Nice headline Mr. Morrissey. Unfortunately, almost every thing this president has uttered has been a myth. “Mythbusters” could do 10 seasons on health care alone and not repeat a myth.

If and when this fails, he will only have himself to blame.

kam582 on September 18, 2009 at 10:39 AM

quoting people = “smear” in the age of Obama.

Joe Caps on September 18, 2009 at 10:32 AM

No, no. Quoting people is a swiftboat tactic. Showing video of them is a smear.

LibTired on September 18, 2009 at 10:39 AM

I saw this video on MSNBC….hahahaha, I crack myself up….

right2bright on September 18, 2009 at 10:40 AM

I love the crispness in his speech when talking to the joint session on congress, but when he’s talking to minorities and college students he’s got the ethnic swagga’ going. Please.

NickelAndDime on September 18, 2009 at 10:40 AM

AnninCA on September 18, 2009 at 10:29 AM

If only we could set up a panel to decide who gets what treatments. That would fix everything.

Joe Caps on September 18, 2009 at 10:40 AM

From the Joint Session speech:

The plan I’m announcing tonight would meet three basic goals.

Where is Obama’s plan?

faraway on September 18, 2009 at 10:40 AM

Profit is a bad word…at least according to the Obamatrons.

4-5% “profit” is paltry.

Now waste, that is a different topic entirely.

The waste involved in running current government programs is the stuff of legend. Efficiency in any government program is next to impossible. Foisting that same inefficiency on the public as Obamacare will cost far far more than the Obamatrons are willing to admit.

But, never fear, at least government isn’t making a profit.

coldwarrior on September 18, 2009 at 10:41 AM

I think it is awesome that the White House uses partisan publication opinion pieces as references. That won’t backfire./

Cindy Munford on September 18, 2009 at 10:41 AM

Ok, admit it…how many other than I had to look up effluvium?

miConsevative on September 18, 2009 at 10:27 AM

You misspelled it…it is F’uam, as in I don’t care what the people want, F’uam…

right2bright on September 18, 2009 at 10:42 AM

Just as with HillaryCare back in 1993, the point of the
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curent health care push is to funnel billions of dollars
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into the hands of a select group who will then funnel millions
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into the coffers of liberal democrats and the 2012
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Obama re-election campaign.
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When Hillary couldn’t get her program implemented quickly
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enough to have the desired effect for 1996, she threw in the towel.
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esblowfeld on September 18, 2009 at 10:42 AM

You can’t believe a word the man says.

There has never been such a blatant liar on the American stage.

And that is saying a lot, considering the Clinton’s and the entire Congress.

The difference is that the Liar in Chief’s lies are part and parcel of a deliberate plan to destroy the country.

You can’t say that about most of the rest. 99% of them are just common criminals who discovered that politics pays better than crime does.

notagool on September 18, 2009 at 10:43 AM

How did Obama research this anecdote? He read it in Slate

Obama is two-timing Teleprompter?

Cat fight.

fogw on September 18, 2009 at 10:44 AM

The facts are just and Inconvenient Truth

PatriotRider on September 18, 2009 at 10:46 AM

I love the crispness in his speech when talking to the joint session on congress, but when he’s talking to minorities and college students he’s got the ethnic swagga’ going. Please.

NickelAndDime on September 18, 2009 at 10:40 AM

It never fails. Too funny.

He is so lame.

Joe Caps on September 18, 2009 at 10:46 AM

I’ve heard that not only do most insurance companies run at 3-4% profit, the Blue Cross/Blue Shields are actually non-profit.

itsacookbook on September 18, 2009 at 10:47 AM

As I watch this grand scheme for our nation’s future unfold, I am left with one nagging thought. Am I on Candid Camera?

This is just too insane to be real.

MikeA on September 18, 2009 at 10:48 AM

No, no. Quoting people is a swiftboat tactic. Showing video of them is a smear.

LibTired on September 18, 2009 at 10:39 AM

Oops. My bad.

I’ll be heading over to Media Matters for some reprogramming. Talk to y’all in a bit.

Joe Caps on September 18, 2009 at 10:48 AM

The more I study this attempt at healthcare reform. the more I become certain that the dems need to pass this bill to save medicare,medicaid, and schip. They also want it for the control factor. Those programs are on their death beds and only a major infusion of tax money will save them. Therefore this attempt to get “everyone” to pay is a hope that their failed policies of yesteryear survive another 30 years

unseen on September 18, 2009 at 10:50 AM

Cutting “profits” out of healthcare will also mean cutting the salaries of physicians, RNs and other highly skilled medical technicians.

We already have a physician shortage. This idioitic “reform” will accelerate it, resulting in fewer medical students and more physicians leaving the profession.

Unless Barack Obama is going to reinstitute slavery, who is going to make up for this slack? Has Axelrod planned for that?

But of course, the perfumed princes in our political class will always get the best care, while the rest of us stand in line behind 400 illegals with the shiffles.

NoDonkey on September 18, 2009 at 10:50 AM

He’s saying they know how much there is, now, and they’ve known all along, but won’t do anything about it, until they get their wish!

Cybergeezer on September 18, 2009 at 10:37 AM

Well, we never did get to hear John Kerry’s plan for Iraq since we didn’t elect him. This blackmail approach to politics is a Democrat staple.

highhopes on September 18, 2009 at 10:50 AM

Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

Even better yet… These are not the droids I’m looking for /waveshand

Static on September 18, 2009 at 10:50 AM

If anyone has seen Robert Redford in The Candidate, the juxtaposition of those two videos is striking. The 2007 speech shows Obama early in his campaign. He delivers policy wonkage to the audience who appears frankly bored and uninterested. Maybe he’s speaking the truth and delivering the facts, but he is inspiring no one. As a candidate he is dead in the water. This is Robert Redford from early scenes in that movie.

That Obama bears little resemblence to the Obama from a year later who will give “soaring” speeches big on catch phrases and short on facts. He’s been given a political makeover. The audience is captivated and enthralled and decide to elect him over a more experienced opponent. That is candidate that Redford becomes to beat his opponent for the U.S. Senate.

Now we get the part of the The Candidate which is never seen in the movie, but only hinted at by Redford’s closing line (after winning the election): “What do we do now?”. Leadership is choice and now Obama has to choose between the policy wonk of the 2007 town hall and the demagogue of 2008. He can’t be both. So he chooses the demogogue and eschews the facts. Fascinating.

Once again it bears comparison to Reagan who was what he was as a candidate and as a President. He knew what he believed in and wasn’t afraid to believe in it when it became unpopular. Candidate Reagan and President Reagan were one and the same and he never allowed himself a makeover.

PackerBronco on September 18, 2009 at 10:56 AM

He’ll say anything to get the policies he wants. He doesn’t care that it will cost so much money that it will permanently change the US’ place in the economic world. He doesn’t want America to be wealthier than other countries (although he’s happy to be among the economic elite of Americans; don’t see him donating all his book royalties to charity). America’s wealth is, in his eyes, the product of its colonial and postcolonial sins. That’s how ‘liberals’ think.

ProfessorMiao on September 18, 2009 at 10:56 AM

OT Bombshell: Fed plans to approve banking salaries

The Federal Reserve would be required to approve salaries for tens of thousands of US bank workers, as part of a plan to curb risk-taking at financial institutions, The Wall Street Journal reported Friday.

faraway on September 18, 2009 at 10:56 AM

If only we could set up a panel to decide who gets what treatments. That would fix everything.

Joe Caps on September 18, 2009 at 10:40 AM

I’d like to see more research done as was described in Blink. On that level, I agree with Obama that healthcare should be results oriented rather than event oriented.

We keep talking about how great our health programs are, but the truth is that we have a lot of really stupid healthcare problems that are hard to fathom. We KNOW what works with diabetes. Yet they constitute a HUGE number of people in ICU.

Establishing standards for treatment might miff the doctors, but I’m a bit tired of them being so high on pedestals, anyway.

AnninCA on September 18, 2009 at 10:56 AM

Fun Fact: The private insurance companies pay out $1.02 for every $1.00 they get in premiums. Where do the get that extra 2% plus their operating costs and profit? Investing.

What happens when private insurers are driven out of business by government subsidized pogrom (spelling intended)? Less capital to invest, lowering GDP, raising unemployment, and making a larger mess of our economy.

IMHO, this is one of the major goals of Obama hellcare.

jukin on September 18, 2009 at 10:57 AM

Narcissists don’t need facts, they just need to speak it and it is the truth. As soon as we realize that everything will be ok.
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milwife88 on September 18, 2009 at 10:58 AM

So there are lots of solutions. Setting up a big system to drive solutions, however, is looking pretty impossible.

AnninCA on September 18, 2009 at 10:29 AM

You’re just about there AnninCA. Now change that last line to read:

So there are lots of solutions. Setting up a big system to drive solutions, however, is looking pretty stupid.

and your journey to the Dark Side will be complete!

PackerBronco on September 18, 2009 at 11:01 AM

Obama wants me to put my family on an insurance plan that he will not put his own family on.

Congress has their families on their own plan and are against allowing the rest of America to share in it.

Then they turn around and ask for us to support having sub standard coverage while they enjoy top shelf coverage THAT WE PAY FOR.

As far as my family and I are concerned, they can kiss our a$$’s.

Baxter Greene on September 18, 2009 at 11:04 AM

Slate? Is that closer to tea leaves or tarot cards?

tim c on September 18, 2009 at 11:04 AM

It was nice to finally see an article up today about the individual mandate. I have heard very little discussion on this topic from anyone but this is a big problem for me — How on earth can the federal government tell me that I MUST buy health insurance or be penalized? How is it that I am not allowed to pay cash for my health care, or to use my own private provider or personal, privately paid physician if I so choose? Any answer which says, yes,the gov’t can force you to buy health insurance essentially means the government can forcefully regulate ALL aspects of your life.. this is NOT freedom, or the American way, plain and simple. Quibbling over the public option/subsidies, etc is moot — why is no one standing up and saying wait a minute, you cannot mandate people to buy healt insurance — thats like mandating them to buy a house, or a car, or clothing…

PaulMorphy on September 18, 2009 at 11:05 AM

faraway on September 18, 2009 at 10:56 AM

That will probably run off the best and brightest but encourage the mediocre and those who love to break the rules.

Cindy Munford on September 18, 2009 at 11:08 AM

Was anything in Obama’s Sep 9th speech not a lie?

faraway on September 18, 2009 at 10:20 AM

Yes. He said his name is Barack Obama. Oh… wait a minute… ah, er-r-r-r, never mind.

Yoop on September 18, 2009 at 11:11 AM

That clip was absolutely brutal.

lorien1973 on September 18, 2009 at 11:14 AM

No, no. Quoting people is a swiftboat tactic. Showing video of them is a smear.

LibTired on September 18, 2009 at 10:39 AM

Oops. My bad.

I’ll be heading over to Media Matters for some reprogramming. Talk to y’all in a bit.

Joe Caps on September 18, 2009 at 10:48 AM

You’re gonna come back as that dreaded Microsoft Blue Screen of Doom.

Yoop on September 18, 2009 at 11:17 AM

the profit margin in the health-care industry is between 4-5% in a good year

Can someone link this source please? I would love to share it with a few whacked out lunatic “friends” of mine.

JeffinOrlando on September 18, 2009 at 11:22 AM

Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain…

elderberry on September 18, 2009 at 11:25 AM

This is right out of the democrat playbook. Slick Willie, HRC, Joey B., they all do it until they get caught.

rjoco1 on September 18, 2009 at 11:30 AM

It’s just not true, which I pointed out in my Chicago Sun-Times column. I confirmed with the White House that the man Obama was referring to was Otto Raddatz, from a Chicago suburb. His insurance company did indeed yank his coverage in April 2005. But after a fight led by his sister, Peggy, an attorney and the Illinois attorney general, Raddatz got his coverage reinstated in a few weeks and never missed any needed treatments. And he did not die until Jan. 6, 2009.

Obama used a Chicago-area man who died two weeks before Obama’s inauguration as a poster boy against the EEEEEVIL insurance companies denying benefits for his own political benefit, when the man received all his treatments and lived for nearly four years.

So he can shove down everybody’s throat a plan that would cut Medicare benefits to the elderly and replace private health insurance with NICE (the British death panel) government-rationing plans.

One man died, Obama lied, more will die. Despicable.

Steve Z on September 18, 2009 at 11:37 AM

the snake oil con man, doin’ his thang.

kirkill on September 18, 2009 at 11:40 AM

Joe Wilson should read a transcript of this tape into the Congressional Record and suggest to the leadership that the President be invited back to ‘Revise and Extend His Remarks” that were previously made before this Congress.

meci on September 18, 2009 at 11:42 AM

I heard this joke:
Two men from New York, City. Get a truck and drive to FL and buy a load of watermelon’s.
They return to New York,City and are selling them for $1.00 a piece.
One of the partners starts to do some figuring and tells the other one “Hey the melons cost use a $1.02 apiece after expenses are figured in.”
His partner thought for a few minutes and said. “I’ve got the solution. Next time we’ll get a bigger truck.”

BruceB on September 18, 2009 at 11:51 AM

Can I also point out that had this man had a “public option” health plan and his treatment been suspended by the government, there’s no way in hell he would have gotten his treatment reinstated within a few weeks?

alwaysfiredup on September 18, 2009 at 11:57 AM

It was nice to finally see an article up today about the individual mandate. I have heard very little discussion on this topic from anyone but this is a big problem for me — How on earth can the federal government tell me that I MUST buy health insurance or be penalized?

I think that the mandates have held, court-wise, in MA. But I question how it will hold nationally, particularly if there is not a low-cost public option available.

AnninCA on September 18, 2009 at 11:58 AM

and your journey to the Dark Side will be complete!

PackerBronco on September 18, 2009 at 11:01 AM

I get razzed her a lot, but I honestly do listen for the nuggets of logic and fact.

I do NOT think all the posts on this blog are brilliant. Neither are mine, so we’re even. *haha

And I am, undoubtedly, going to remain liberal in many respects. I don’t agree with a lot of the “tough” talk against people at all. We’re not living in the 1800′s. We’re not going to go back to building our own log cabins.

So I’m decidedly more moderate than many. (And I HATE the threats of violence, too, btw. *blech*)

But I do listen to the issues. I think that the problem is the approach on healthcare. It’s still event-triggered, which leads to a mirror problem that’s going on in healthcare today. Person A applies for benefits. Insurance company boots them out. Well, imagine if this is the way that gov’t restricts the costs. That is a dangerous system.

It has to be results oriented.

AnninCA on September 18, 2009 at 12:02 PM

From a line in the Apollo 13 movie;
let’s look at these things from a… from a standpoint of status. What have we got on that spacecraft Obama that’s good?

Electrongod on September 18, 2009 at 12:03 PM

This is right out of the democrat playbook. Slick Willie, HRC, Joey B., they all do it until they get caught.

rjoco1 on September 18, 2009 at 11:30 AM

I personally think Bill C. was FAR more conservative fiscally than even Bush.

AnninCA on September 18, 2009 at 12:04 PM

Barry keeps forgetting about all those videos taken of him. It’s a lot easier to hide your paperwork behind “privacy” laws.

GarandFan on September 18, 2009 at 12:06 PM

Video: Savings are a myth fairy tale

Fixed.

progressoverpeace on September 18, 2009 at 12:29 PM

Obama is his own useful idiot.

Dhuka on September 18, 2009 at 12:31 PM

You know, if we could hook the Obama administration up to a series of generators we’d have our revolutionary clean energy source with all the spinning they do.

18-1 on September 18, 2009 at 12:48 PM

I can’t believe that Hot Air is stooping to the level of the cesspool of smear merchants by posting a video of someone’s actual statements!

hillbillyjim on September 18, 2009 at 1:08 PM

How did Obama research this anecdote? He read it in Slate, and no one on his staff checked to see if the story was accurate. It’s precisely this kind of expertise that Obama wants to put in charge of your health care.

That’s the problem with proof-by-example. On the other hand, had Otto not had some power players in his corner, he might have lost the battle.

At the present time, medical providers can rescind coverage for existing conditions which were unknown to the applicant, and they can do this years after the policy was issued.

Fairness says that if I lie to the insurer, I shouldn’t be covered, but if I don’t lie, I should be covered, even if the insurer reviews records it should have reviewed before issuing coverage and determines that I had a pre-existing condition I didn’t know about:

But they would not commit to limiting rescissions to only policyholders who intentionally lie or commit fraud to obtain coverage, a refusal that met with dismay from legislators on both sides of the political aisle.

So, I don’t think Obama’s lying in this case — he may have chosen a bad proof-by-example, but he isn’t lying about the fact that some insurers are looking for trivial ways to rescind policies on costly people.

There’s a middle ground. Application forms should be standard in format, the provider can use the application form and the applicant’s medical history to make a coverage decision, but after the coverage is in place the only way out for the provider is if they determine that the applicant suppressed medical history indicating a preexisting condition, and that way out is only applicable within a limited time after the initiation of coverage.

This will allow fairness — the insurer can rid themselves of liars, and the insured can be guaranteed that, if they were honest, they won’t be rescinded should they become costly to the insurer.

unclesmrgol on September 18, 2009 at 1:11 PM

One does not? lose money on a per-person basis but make it up in volume; that line is a joke in the private sector, but policy in the public sector.

burt on September 18, 2009 at 1:54 PM

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