Obama finds agreement between Israelis, Palestinians

posted at 5:50 pm on September 18, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

It’s hard to get the Israelis and Palestinians to agree on much, but Barack Obama managed to find common ground between the two.  Smart diplomacy?  More like Inspector Clouseau.  Both sides said that Obama’s attempts to bully them left them insulted:

Neither Palestinian nor Israeli leadership commented on their attendance at next week’s UN summit, but with the US envoy boarding a plane back to Washington – and the upcoming Jewish and Muslim holidays lasting through the weekend – time appeared to be running out to reach a compromise.

“The Americans thought they would come in here and push us around at the beginning of the week. But they didn’t get what they wanted and now they are the ones left looking embarrassed,” said one Palestinian official involved in the talks.

Speaking to an Israeli news network just before the holiday weekend, Mr Netanyahu said about the peace talks: “If it will be, it will be. If not, not. I didn’t ask for it and I didn’t put conditions on the talks.”

The failure to reach a compromise marked a major setback for US President Barak Obama, who has made the Middle East peace process a cornerstone of his foreign policy.

To some extent, this is the nature of the conflict and the American role in it.  Neither side wants to budge, or to be seen as budging.  This is especially a problem for the Israelis, which now has a right-leaning government after the previous centrist and left-leaning governments made public concessions — and got paid back with war.  Obama is not the first American President to discover that small talk and big nudges get you nowhere.

He is, however, the first to make Israel bear the brunt of those nudges publicly.  Obama has encouraged the Palestinians to remain obstinate on the no-expansion condition by making that one of his own conditions.  Obama has had to back away from that demand after getting all but a “hell no” from the Israelis, who want to have the room for vertical expansion in the settlements, if not horizontal expansion.  However, after Obama publicly demanded an end to settlements, the Palestinian leadership feels that they can’t be seen as more flexible than the US, which leads us to the current impasse.

Besides, what’s the rush? Other than the normal rush to settle conflict to gain peace, there seems to be little substantive reason to demand talks at this juncture — except that Obama desperately needs a foreign-policy victory.  His appeasement of Russia and his backstabbing of Poland and the Czech Republic has infuriated people across the West, and his health-care debacle has dragged his political clout down to microscopic levels.  After insulting the Israelis for the last few months with his demands, Bibi Netanyahu has absolutely no incentive to toss Obama a lifeline now.

This appears to be another lesson in on-the-job training for Obama.  Hopefully he learns from it, but considering his foreign-policy fumbles thus far, it doesn’t seem as though he’s learning much at all.

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Something the Russians, Poles and Czechs all agree on, too.

Wethal on September 18, 2009 at 5:53 PM

He’s quite the unifier: universal disgust for his policies at home and abroad! Left and Right, Jew and Arab, all think he’s a flaming idiot! Unprecedented

michaelo on September 18, 2009 at 5:54 PM

OT Bombshell: David Gregory, on MSNBC, said that Obama did “not make his case” in his Meet The Press interview to be shown on Sunday

faraway on September 18, 2009 at 5:55 PM

Best chance for peace in my mind is for Isreal to maintain its wall and disproportionate responses (i.e., destroy a lot of stuff when the rockets fly into the country).

WashJeff on September 18, 2009 at 5:56 PM

And since neither side wants to get ‘pushed around’ by Americans…I say we leave them be. Permanently.

ernesto on September 18, 2009 at 5:56 PM

Ignore what he says. Have Israel tell us where things really are. He seems to misquote others when it is convenient.

seven on September 18, 2009 at 5:57 PM

Obama is a menace.

elduende on September 18, 2009 at 5:57 PM

Is this like the Herb Brooks strategy for the 1980 Olympic hockey team? Make everyone hate you so they get along. The Miracle In The Desert.

MDWNJ on September 18, 2009 at 5:59 PM

And since neither side wants to get ‘pushed around’ by Americans…I say we leave them be. Permanently.

ernesto on September 18, 2009 at 5:56 PM

Agreed, but if Isreal wants to buy weapons from us I am ok with that. No direct financial aid for them, the Palestinians, or any country ideally.

WashJeff on September 18, 2009 at 5:59 PM

Let’s see. Obama abrogrates a missle sheild deal to help the Russians in Eastern Europe on the 70th anniversary of the Russian invasion of Poland.

What’s next? Agreeing with Dinnerjacket that the holocaust is a lie during the Jewish High Holy Days?

TXUS on September 18, 2009 at 6:00 PM

Oh no, I thought all was well with the world when HotAir removed the LGF link from its list of “War on Terror” blogs.

Then I noticed HotAir still links to this discredited blog of egomaniacal libelblogger Johnson, who sees Nazi’s under every stone. It just moved the link to Left Channels. Well, at least it is an acknowledgement of CJ’s new found love for everything Obama.

guest77 on September 18, 2009 at 6:00 PM

Something the Russians, Poles and Czechs all agree on, too.

Wethal on September 18, 2009 at 5:53 PM

Not to mention Honduras.

Romeo13 on September 18, 2009 at 6:02 PM

What’s that you say? Obama could not just waltz into the Middle East, wave a magic wand…say voila! and all is well?

Who knew that things would be so hard? Gosh darn.

Terrye on September 18, 2009 at 6:03 PM

Irving Kristol is dead.

LevStrauss on September 18, 2009 at 6:04 PM

Are the Nobel prizes under consideration now? We know how discriminating they are.

Cindy Munford on September 18, 2009 at 6:04 PM

guest77

THEY’RE DOING CJ A FAVOR.

HE NEEDS TO GET MUSIC GIG$ AND NEEDED TO RESTABLISH LEFTIST CRED TO DO SO

reliapundit on September 18, 2009 at 6:05 PM

This foreign policy team is just down right embarrasing.

Lets go to the score card so far:

Honduras- bad judgement and impotence
Iran – bad judgement and impotnece
NKor – impotence
Poland – impotence and appeasment
Israel- laughable impotence

Is this the ‘gang that couldn’t shoot straight’ or what?

DrW on September 18, 2009 at 6:08 PM

International Clown.

lavell12 on September 18, 2009 at 6:08 PM

Did the envoy go by plane or clown car?

Cicero43 on September 18, 2009 at 6:08 PM

Not to mention Honduras.

Romeo13 on September 18, 2009 at 6:02 PM

South Korea, Columbia…the list keeps growing.

Not to mention the British (Region I DVDs?), the French…

Wethal on September 18, 2009 at 6:09 PM

So which is it?

A. They really do think screwing your allies and being nice to your enemies is a good idea.

B. They didn’t realize they were screwing allies and being nice to enemies.

I can’t decide which is worse.

WitchDoctor on September 18, 2009 at 6:10 PM

Jimmah! is still peeved that TR got his Peace Prize first.

And The Medal.

PKO Strany on September 18, 2009 at 6:10 PM

But we were to mean before! If we would only be nice, people will like us! I’d like to kick every Obama voter’s ass right now.

marklmail on September 18, 2009 at 6:10 PM

Are the Nobel prizes under consideration now? We know how discriminating they are.

Cindy Munford on September 18, 2009 at 6:04 PM
Is being clean and articulate enough for the Nobel prize? Walking softly and and carrying no stick didn’t go over to well.

fourdeucer on September 18, 2009 at 6:10 PM

Where`s all that “smart” diplomacy Hillary was bragging about?

No one is afraid of Obama. You wait long enough he will surrender without you even firing nary a harsh word.

albill on September 18, 2009 at 6:10 PM

But they didn’t get what they wanted and now they are the ones left looking embarrassed,” said one Palestinian official involved in the talks.

Not like we didn’t predict that all through the presidential campaign.

Vindication Pyrrhic victory

RushBaby on September 18, 2009 at 6:13 PM

And since neither side wants to get ‘pushed around’ by Americans…I say we leave them be. Permanently.

ernesto on September 18, 2009 at 5:56 PM

I.e. turn our back on an ally.

Neither side does want to be pushed around, but shocker – ‘Bully’ is not the only option. Smart policy is my preference.

Spirit of 1776 on September 18, 2009 at 6:13 PM

Isn’t it interesting that the old liberal (and paranoid libertarian) belief that Israel dictates terms to the US government is turning out to be a self-fulfilling prophecy? Clearly Netanyahu is the decider on matters of war and peace in the Middle East now, and we’re going to go along with whatever he decides.

joe_doufu on September 18, 2009 at 6:13 PM

Are the Nobel prizes under consideration now? We know how discriminating they are.

Cindy Munford on September 18, 2009 at 6:04 PM

While I have, of course, sent my annual notice of withdrawal for consideration, I’m sure that our president’s decision to cancel the Eastern Europe missile defense system in favor of Russia will be the kind of appeasement that the Nobel committee will wet themselves over.

Oh, and did I mention that awarding the prize to the first black president would be historic?

TXUS on September 18, 2009 at 6:13 PM

fourdeucer on September 18, 2009 at 6:10 PM

They gave the Peace prize to Algore and Arafat, how hard can it be?

Cindy Munford on September 18, 2009 at 6:14 PM

Wow, this guy (Barry) literally is a walking nuke – everything he touches gets oxidized.

I can see impeachment when Israel takes on Iran;

or;

Iran nukes Israel. . . .

karra on September 18, 2009 at 6:14 PM

This is outrageous. This pres. is a disaster at home and abroad. He has to understand this is not American Idol. John Bolten said this morning that his decision re the missile base was a disaster. It’s diplomacy 101, negotiation vs. capitulation. God help us and keep us safe, all of us.

rjoco1 on September 18, 2009 at 6:15 PM

“Clearly Netanyahu is the decider on matters of war and peace in the Middle East now”

I see where you’re going with that, but I think you could have made the same claim about the other side when they just, gosh darn it, would not quit firing missiles at Israel.

WitchDoctor on September 18, 2009 at 6:15 PM

The first mistake was trying to win these guys over with surplus RECHARGE buttons in Cyrillic script.

Cicero43 on September 18, 2009 at 6:15 PM

TXUS on September 18, 2009 at 6:13 PM

Oh good grief and I thought I was joking. Sorry you withdrew, I was pulling for you. Seriously though, it will be interesting to see if he is nominated and why.

Cindy Munford on September 18, 2009 at 6:16 PM

President Obama is not ready for prime time at home and less so abroad. Carter is probably happy about that so he can pick up a notch from the bottom.

Dog bites on September 18, 2009 at 6:17 PM

“This appears to be another lesson in on-the-job training for Obama. Hopefully he learns from it, but considering his foreign-policy fumbles thus far, it doesn’t seem as though he’s learning much at all.”

Terrific last line. Obama is a dismal failure without the brains to learn. However, in this regard he fits in beautifully with his friends the dictators. Which brings me to the conclusion that Obama is and has every intention of leading like a dictator.

ORconservative on September 18, 2009 at 6:18 PM

This all seems so far “above his pay grade.”

rjoco1 on September 18, 2009 at 6:18 PM

When America was strong, other nations feared us, they allowed for our American idoiocincraies, but they abided by our stances. We have entered a new phase of existence where the Russians are dominating world political discussions. Iran will soon be able to deliver nuclear warheads to Israel. What will we do?

Poland has been a staunch friend and now we have sold them to the Ruskies. I am totally sickend by this cowardly lack of fortitude of our metrosexual chicken in chief. Time to roll.

hip shot on September 18, 2009 at 6:19 PM

has every intention of leading like a dictator.

ORconservative on September 18, 2009 at 6:18 PM

If it walks like a duck….

zenscreamer on September 18, 2009 at 6:19 PM

Pretty much everything is above his paygrade.

ORconservative on September 18, 2009 at 6:20 PM

To clarify my own statement, let me just say: to walk away from Israel seems to me to be like abandoning a missile defense system for Poland.

How would the Cold War have played out if the state of Israel had not successfully repulsed waves of Soviet supported assaults? Our armament and their determined defense, I suggest, were almost a proxy war. To me, they have shown their grit as an ally and their worth for the administration to respect their self-determination.

Spirit of 1776 on September 18, 2009 at 6:21 PM

These countries must all be racists, too.

guest77 on September 18, 2009 at 6:22 PM

This appears to be another lesson in on-the-job training for Obama.

And The One has learned NOTHING!

Hey Japan, Taiwan, South Korea – How you folks feel about all that Obama “Smart Diplomacy”. No worries folks, just remember “Barry has your back!”

GarandFan on September 18, 2009 at 6:24 PM

Too bad the Palestinians wouldn’t agree to a beer summit. Those usually work wonders.

Urquhart on September 18, 2009 at 6:27 PM

Husseins errand clowns failed to create peace again? This does not suprise me since, their all of their attempts to date have pretty much been failures!

BigMike252 on September 18, 2009 at 6:27 PM

Spirit of 1776 on September 18, 2009 at 6:21 PM

I know Israel is tough but they are totally surround by not just enemies but people who want to destroy them. How do we walk away? I hope that isn’t something The Won would consider.

Cindy Munford on September 18, 2009 at 6:27 PM

Major, Super, Epic Fail!

farright on September 18, 2009 at 6:28 PM

Oh good grief and I thought I was joking. Sorry you withdrew, I was pulling for you. Seriously though, it will be interesting to see if he is nominated and why.

Cindy Munford on September 18, 2009 at 6:16 PM

Thanks for your kind words and support but I withdraw from the award annually since I’ve already got enough splainin’ to do at St. Pete’s gate when that day comes, and certainly don’t need this prize on the list.

On the serious note, they’ll probably wait a couple of years to nominate him, to give him time to completely destroy our international diplomatic and military superiority.

TXUS on September 18, 2009 at 6:28 PM

He’s got three years to go. Something very bad is bound to happen during that time and he will have to wear it. If, God forbid, we have a dirty bomb terrorist event or something equally bad here, the donks will have major problems getting back in the WH for a long time. We have weakness painted on our national forehead at present and the whole world is taking note.

a capella on September 18, 2009 at 6:30 PM

At least as of right now Susan Rice says Obama won’t be meeting with dinnerjacket when the UN has their meeting.

fourdeucer on September 18, 2009 at 6:30 PM

Can we get a revote?

mizflame98 on September 18, 2009 at 6:34 PM

I know Israel is tough but they are totally surround by not just enemies but people who want to destroy them. How do we walk away? I hope that isn’t something The Won would consider.

Cindy Munford on September 18, 2009 at 6:27 PM

He’s already done it just in selection of his advisors and rhetoric to Muslims. Remember the effort to bring Charles Freeman on board? Look at our UN ambassador.

a capella on September 18, 2009 at 6:35 PM

Once again Obama does wonders for the Bush legacy.

gwelf on September 18, 2009 at 6:35 PM

At least as of right now Susan Rice says Obama won’t be meeting with dinnerjacket when the UN has their meeting.

fourdeucer on September 18, 2009 at 6:30 PM

Let’s also hope that they don’t have a ‘chance’ encounter on the floor of the UN with camera’s rolling, with a great big handshake and hug….somehow, I think a photo op will take place somehow with the 2 of them together.

tatersalad on September 18, 2009 at 6:35 PM

The failure to reach a compromise marked a major setback for US President Barak Obama, who has made the Middle East peace process a cornerstone of his foreign policy.

Doesn’t just about every president do this? I think they are fishing for a Nobel more than anything.

The first US president that says, “OK, look here Israel, you do whatever it takes to create peace. If you need logistic support, ammo, equipment, say the word. Whatever it costs will be cheaper in the long run than what we have been paying out by prolonging hostilities”, will be the first to acheive peace in the mideast.

Total victory now = peace for generations.

The only thing most western leaders are interested in, is keeping the carnage to a minimum on their watch and trying to avoid making any tough decisions.

reaganaut on September 18, 2009 at 6:38 PM

a capella on September 18, 2009 at 6:35 PM

I was hoping that his large Jewish constituency would keep him from doing anything stupid but I guess he has already counted them as dispensable through health care. At least the older ones and the younger ones are probably uninformed. So depressing.

Cindy Munford on September 18, 2009 at 6:38 PM

Obama = Carters’ surrogate

(we can say that, yes?)

BobMbx on September 18, 2009 at 6:38 PM

He seems to be incredibly poorly advised for a Harvard man!

Lonetown on September 18, 2009 at 6:39 PM

Can we get a revote?

mizflame98 on September 18, 2009 at 6:34 PM

Man, wouldn’t that be a dream come true, oboobi would be gone in a nano second.

SHARPTOOTH on September 18, 2009 at 6:39 PM

The only thing most western leaders are interested in, is keeping the carnage to a minimum on their watch and trying to avoid making any tough decisions.

reaganaut on September 18, 2009 at 6:38 PM

One small edit.

“Present” becoming all the rage now….

BobMbx on September 18, 2009 at 6:40 PM

Both think he’s an amateur.

You are slaying me today Ed.

Let me guess, Obama asked them both to give him 1/6th of their economy’s so that he could spread the wealth around?

Hog Wild on September 18, 2009 at 6:43 PM

This foreign policy team is just down right embarrasing.

Lets go to the score card so far:

Honduras- bad judgement and impotence
Iran – bad judgement and impotnece
NKor – impotence
Poland – impotence and appeasment
Israel- laughable impotence

Is this the ‘gang that couldn’t shoot straight’ or what?

DrW on September 18, 2009 at 6:08 PM

UK- Bad judgement
China- Impotence
Columbia – Bad judgement

Ah, the Superman of Diplomacy.

nyx on September 18, 2009 at 6:44 PM

It says something about the American electorate that they would elect someone so completely incompetent.

pullingmyhairout on September 18, 2009 at 6:46 PM

And since neither side wants to get ‘pushed around’ by Americans…I say we leave them be. Permanently.

ernesto on September 18, 2009 at 5:56 PM

Of course, you are still in favor of selling weapons to Israel. Right?

Andy in Agoura Hills on September 18, 2009 at 6:51 PM

OT Bombshell: David Gregory, on MSNBC, said that Obama did “not make his case” in his Meet The Press interview to be shown on Sunday

faraway on September 18, 2009 at 5:55 PM

..cracks begin to appear in the foundation.

VoyskaPVO on September 18, 2009 at 6:52 PM

Hubris plain hubris to think the neophyte politician suckled on a Joooo hating teat would be able to talk the Isreali’s into more concessions to obtain a false peace.

chemman on September 18, 2009 at 6:55 PM

He seems to be incredibly poorly advised and educated for a Harvard man!

Lonetown on September 18, 2009 at 6:39 PM

FIFY

chemman on September 18, 2009 at 6:57 PM

Isn’t it interesting that the old liberal (and paranoid libertarian) belief that Israel dictates terms to the US government is turning out to be a self-fulfilling prophecy? Clearly Netanyahu is the decider on matters of war and peace in the Middle East now, and we’re going to go along with whatever he decides.

joe_doufu on September 18, 2009 at 6:13 PM

Sorry, you lost me.

If you’re talking about Iranian agression towards Israel, I believe that President Obama has clearly shown that he has no intention of stopping Iran from developing the weapon that A-Jad has promised to use against the ‘zionists’.

If you’re talking about withdrawal from disputed territories, that’s a 1000 story pal. The next US President who can convince either side to move an inch will be the first US President to convince either side to move an inch.

DrW on September 18, 2009 at 6:57 PM

sorry.”that’s a 1000 YEAR story, pal.”

DrW on September 18, 2009 at 6:58 PM

dear leader needs to re-read Foreign Policies for Dummies again…

cmsinaz on September 18, 2009 at 7:00 PM

Wethal on September 18, 2009 at 6:09 PM

Heh, Well at least he has Venezuela, Cuba, and Kenya going for him…

FontanaConservative on September 18, 2009 at 7:06 PM

Wait a minute!!!

Where’s is the United States Secretary of State in all this? Wasn’t Hillary Clinton supposed to be the wise and experienced candidate for POTUS? Wasn’t her naming as SOS supposed to fill some gravitas void for the administration? Isn’t HRC an expert in Middle East diplomacy?!!!

Neither Obama nor Clinton are acquitting themselves on the world stage with our nation’s diplomatic tasks.

JonPrichard on September 18, 2009 at 7:25 PM

People who have no core values (Obama) simply don’t understand people who do (Israelis). The Israelis must survive and they know that BO couldn’t care less about them. He’s as cold as the moon just not as bright.

Mojave Mark on September 18, 2009 at 7:27 PM

Calling Obama an amateur, is being kind!

GFW on September 18, 2009 at 7:41 PM

Can you imagine if some Palestinian official had said something like this about Bush? It would have been the lead story in the State run media for at least 3 days.

johnnybgood on September 18, 2009 at 8:23 PM

The ultimate demonstration of the need for a President to have foreign policy experience.

Obama has none, but his limited experience on the streets of Chicago convinced him that he could speak and wave a magic wand and all will obey him.

George H. W. Bush tried to broker peace between Israel and the Palestinians and failed.

Bill Clinton tried to broker peace between Israel and the Palestinians and failed.

George W. Bush tried to broker peace between Israel and the Palestinians and failed.

If Obama had been paying attention for the past 20 years, he would realize that this is a particularly difficult problem, and instant gratification is not to be had, and it will require long, patient, delicate negotiations.

But Obama, like Saruman in Lord of the Rings, still believes in the power of his voice and his magic wand.

Earth to Obama: Israel and the West Bank ain’t Chicago, and they don’t always do what they’re told. Ask your three predecessors in the White House.

Steve Z on September 18, 2009 at 8:50 PM

Now Now… Everybody get your knickers out of a knot. Sparky sees the problem and he will fix it….knows just what to do. Sparky will make another speech and that will make them love him all the more and the world will be safe again.

Jakefut on September 18, 2009 at 10:38 PM

I am totally confused about this state of affairs. Obama did such a great job when he did his Travelocity Gnome-like trip through the Middle East and Europe before the election. His soaring speech in Berlin confirmed his world citizenshipness and his position as a world statesman. How can such a high degree of ineptitude in foreign policy and intelligence activities be attributed to the greatest president in American history? Why aren’t the Russians, Iranians, North Koreans, Israelis and Palestinians all bending under the charisma of this great leader? Please enlighten me o leftists. No doubt the reason will be that the last eight years are to blame. Soon it will be the eight years before the last year. Then it will be the eight years before the last two years, etc.

stefano1 on September 19, 2009 at 1:11 AM

And this fool speaks to the world and says that the entire planet should listen to his fiduciary divination;
WHAT A LAUGH!

Cybergeezer on September 20, 2009 at 9:34 AM

By the way; This imitation statesman STILL has nothing to show for his financial insight!

Cybergeezer on September 20, 2009 at 9:39 AM

1-I ask Jesus to zap his Holy Finger at that region to clean things up.

2-I have wanted other countries to engage in this matter other than USA. Especially now, since we don’t need a salesman-in-chief; he is not a mediator, he is an egotistic selfish applause-seeking eternal-campaigning imposing twat.

3-The Anointed One cannot talk his way out of this one.

4-I want a straw poll on this next world gathering on Obama, and how he fares against other world leaders.

5-What would JPII say about Poland? Think about that one! If I recall correctly it was during his youth that he prayed not to be found (by the military)and by some sort of miracle, the military did not see him exactly where he was located. That’s when he started his conversion to God until his death that I still mourn.

6-Are we still considered a world power, or that changed on election day or something?

7-Will Israelis and Palestinians want to participate in a public healthcare plan sponsored by Obama?

ProudPalinFan on September 20, 2009 at 12:55 PM

I am totally confused about this state of affairs. Obama did such a great job when he did his Travelocity Gnome-like trip through the Middle East and Europe before the election. His soaring speech in Berlin confirmed his world citizenshipness and his position as a world statesman. How can such a high degree of ineptitude in foreign policy and intelligence activities be attributed to the greatest president in American history? Why aren’t the Russians, Iranians, North Koreans, Israelis and Palestinians all bending under the charisma of this great leader? Please enlighten me o leftists. No doubt the reason will be that the last eight years are to blame. Soon it will be the eight years before the last year. Then it will be the eight years before the last two years, etc.

stefano1 on September 19, 2009 at 1:11 AM

You think you are confused? No more than me!!! What healthcare are we talking about now? (don’t mean to hijack this thread)

1-HR3200
2-Obama’s
3-Kennedy’s
4-Orrin Hatch’s (?)

After we figure this out, which will stick? Is HR3200 gonna “eat” all of the others and “let the amendments begin?”

ProudPalinFan on September 20, 2009 at 12:59 PM