Democrats to Obama: Um, what exactly are we getting for selling out Poland to Russia?

posted at 8:16 pm on September 17, 2009 by Allahpundit

What are you getting? You’re getting the same thing you got when he sold out Honduras to Chavez over that non-coup “coup” they staged: The warm fuzzy glow of knowing that George Bush would heartily disapprove.

But some members of Obama’s own party, however, had a simple question for the administration: if this was a return to realism, and a concession to Russia’s long and vocal opposition to the missile program, what, exactly, was the U.S. getting in return for fundamentally changing it?

And almost certainly, the answer leads back to Iran…

But Russia has given no ground on those questions, with Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov bluntly opposing tougher sanctions. And Medvedev suggested Thursday that any new American political capital would be more likely go toward the longer-term Obama Administration goal of deep cuts to the two countries’ nuclear weapons stocks…

“If they wanted to engage in a process of negotiation over this they should have been transparent with the Polish and the Czech governments,” said Randy Scheunemann, the top foreign policy advisor to the presidential campaign of Senator John McCain, who said cancelling the missiles in the countries was “seriously misguided.”

“Unilateral preemptive concession in the hope that your negotiating partners will follow suit? Anyone who believes that will work with Russia hasn’t looked at 70 years of Soviet history and 200 years of Russian history,” Scheunemann said.

As much of a royal sucker as he is for agreeing to this, The One deserves credit at least for the shrewdness of his politicking. It’s amazing how much goodwill on foreign policy he’s been able to buy from conservatives simply by being willing to stay the course in Afghanistan for another year. As much anger as there is among the grassroots over today’s retreat and his appalling Honduras betrayal, not to mention the excruciating length of time it took for him to show some indignation about Iran’s head-cracking after the election, there’s no bite to it the way there is to the protests over ObamaCare and bank bailouts. Expectations of how he’d deal with foreign powers were so fabulously low on the right that a modest troop increase in Kabul is enough to placate us until the midterms, in all likelihood. Notice also how the goalposts on Iran have subtly moved after today’s decision. No longer is convincing them to give up their nuke program the acid test of Obama’s diplomatic push; now, merely getting Russia to play ball on sanctions — which no one believes will force Iran to give up the bomb, mind you — is the test. If Putin comes around and agrees to join in the wrist-slap on Tehran, well, then that’s proof that Hopenchange works, whether Iran is disarmed or not.

If you’re looking for tea leaves to read about future cooperation, enjoy this piece from Russian media suggesting that the U.S. backing down on missile defense is hardly a concession at all, in which case why would a quid pro quo be necessary? Oh, and this one too from Fox News reminding us that Iran somehow managed to launch a satellite into space earlier this year, which suggests the sort of near-term long-range missile capability that our crack intel team now insists doesn’t require defending against.


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Complete and absolute idiot.

Bring out the dead, The idiots and the mushroom lovin
straight liners.

One can only imagine the number of graves that have occupants rolling over.

Unfriggggggin real. This jerk can only wish that race
his biggest manufactured problem.

Capitol “J” for Obama on this one.

Texyank on September 18, 2009 at 2:28 AM

Bring out the dead, The idiots and the mushroom lovin
straight liners.

I am sure if something bad happens, like msuhroom cloud originating from a trajectory originating in Iran, the Obambi admin will blame it on Bush and us nasty Conservatives.

It seems American Liberals learned the same bad lesson that Europe learned from the 2nd World War.

Holger on September 18, 2009 at 2:34 AM

Barry couldn’t get the same deal Hitler did.
Hitler-Stalin
Barry-Putin

lasertex on September 18, 2009 at 2:34 AM

Hitler-Stalin
Barry-Putin

History does a repeat ..

lasertex on September 18, 2009 at 2:38 AM

SDN on September 18, 2009 at 1:14 AM

The AWACS would get neutralized first.

lasertex on September 18, 2009 at 2:41 AM

Right now Estonia is the biggest per capita contributor of troops in Afghanistan (we’re a very small country so its not that many in absolute numbers). And our troops are fighting hard (not like many other coalition members) being incorporated in British units and with the Marines. We’re suffering casualties. The reason we’re doing it is without question the hope that by helping the US we ensure US help against Putin. Obviously we realize that we’re not in any case getting a blank check but we at least hope that if we’re betrayed we’re betrayed for something big. Now it looks like our contribution (not to mention Polish much bigger contribution) is traded for absolutely nothing. I am not sure how we’re supposed to ask our young men and women to continue to go risk their life for this. It doesn’t feel too good.

I don’t think this will have an immediate impact on us. Where it might have an immediate impact is Georgia and Ukraine.

kittysaidwoof on September 18, 2009 at 2:58 AM

Russia’s shadow looms larger once more over eastern Europe.
Iran gets more time to plot the final, Final Solution.
Afghanistan gets more time for carnage.
Yeah. What could go wrong?
I remember how the Democrats dealt with Vietnam.

Randy

williars on September 18, 2009 at 3:40 AM

What’s with all this fear-mongering?! XP Hope and Change have come to the Middle East, surely it will blossom and bloom into a new heaven on earth! Right? RIGHT?!

*squish*

Orange Doorhinge on September 18, 2009 at 3:48 AM

This is all about Obama’s redistributionist ideas. Here at home he is intent on giving the country’s wealth back to those who he feels are its “rightful owners”. Now he is going global.

What do we get for Selling out Poland? Nothing.

What does Obama get? The satisfaction of knowing that he is doing his part to give Eastern Europe back to its rightful owners. That’s priceless.

Ordinary American on September 18, 2009 at 3:54 AM

Apparently this decision may have (at least in part)also been for the benefit of a few of Obama’s faithful supporters

Ordinary American on September 18, 2009 at 4:44 AM

Gosh, it looks as if he’s helping the resurrected communists who seek control over our nation. He’s either seriously confused or knows exactly what he’s doing. As I think of it, every thing he has done so far is exactly what the communists would want. If it walks like a duck etc.

Don L on September 18, 2009 at 6:19 AM

This may have been asked already but….why can’t the Euros build their own defense shield? They have the technology and the money. We’ve protected Europe for 60+ years already. Isn’t it time they start looking after themselves, at least somewhat?

angryed on September 18, 2009 at 6:36 AM

Its fascinating that the legacy media can’t add in the other country to this that matters whenever they show that lovely missile graphic: Syria.

Syria has its own missile program and has helped Iran no end on that and uranium refining: Iran doesn’t need to purchase uranium on any market, just trade with Syria to either get unprocessed, raw material (phosphates) or enriched material after the first processing cycle (yellow cake). Syria, as we may recall, also has ties to NoKo which has announced its enriched uranium atom bomb… shifting from their previous plutonium based system. When you add in Syria as a launching site, you start to reach out to places like Italy, Hungary, Czech and Slovak Republics, Ukraine and all points between Syria and those outer limits of Iranian missile technology.

A good point defense system made to take out incoming warheads on a limited basis is a very, very good deterrent to nuclear blackmail by Iran or Syria. Reaching as far as the Suez, now, is currently enough for Iran to threaten the Suez Canal which, if taken out, would roil global commerce on a scale not seen in modern times. There the mere threat of use is enough to gain attention and a smaller ‘demonstration’ device would be enough to confirm that Iran can do what it says it can do. Given the potential annual yellowcake processing ability of Syria, that is enough to keep small numbers of weapons being produced on a regular basis by both Iran and NoKo.

Leaving Poland and the Czech Republic out to dry is called ‘appeasement’ no matter who you are giving in to. I do feel sorry for Greece, Bulgaria, Romania, Turkey and other Nations that also fit inside this threat profile as the US has just told them that we no longer consider them worth American lives or largesse. That is the similar signal Chamberlain gave on the Czechs and Poles… and no good came of that.

ajacksonian on September 18, 2009 at 6:37 AM

What part of “no preconditions” do you people not understand? Why, it’s just bad diplomacy to ask other countries to behave the way we want them to since we are the ones that need to behave and if you disagree with this foreign policy strategy, you’re a racist.

Kafir on September 18, 2009 at 6:59 AM

Russia’s shadow looms larger once more over eastern Europe.
Iran gets more time to plot the final, Final Solution.
Afghanistan gets more time for carnage.
Yeah. What could go wrong?
I remember how the Democrats dealt with Vietnam.
Randy

williars on September 18, 2009 at 3:40 AM

More Democrat “I have no balls” negotiation scheme.

Jeff from WI on September 18, 2009 at 7:16 AM

Is Michelle “ashamed of her country” now?

lizzee on September 18, 2009 at 7:57 AM

“Unilateral preemptive concession in the hope that your negotiating partners will follow suit? Anyone who believes that will work with Russia hasn’t looked at 70 years of Soviet history and 200 years of Russian history,”

Anyone who believes that under any circumstance is naive.

mr.blacksheep on September 18, 2009 at 8:00 AM

I love how Russia pulled the rug out from underneath sanctions on Iran right after the Czechs dropped this news. I’m sure the vodka made the rounds last night.

Seixon on September 18, 2009 at 8:06 AM

Putin is now the greatest leader in Russian history. Too bad about the quickly becoming over-populated with Americans Afghanistan Shooting/bombing and Ambushing Range, because Putin also knows thay the USA’s forces escalation there is another sure disaster for the USA. It is a twofer for Putin, and now Putin can send even more resources into Venezuela for a Threefor.

jimw on September 18, 2009 at 8:43 AM

To understand the bitterness in Poland, 70 years ago today, the headline in the New York Times read “Russians Drive 40 Miles Into Poland, Defense Weak; Polish President In Rumania, Warsaw Holding Out; Britain and France, Concerned, Consult On Action The utter insensitivity to the date is amazing.

So much for “Smart Diplomacy”

J_Crater on September 18, 2009 at 8:46 AM

Here’s a story on how a Polish tabloid bluntly charges that the U.S. betrayed Poland and stabbed it in the back.

This is but the latest instance of Obama alienating America’s traditional allies – another foreign policy disaster. Poland has been one of the most steadfast allies that this nation ever had. Poland deserves first-class treatment from us and from our government, not this betrayal.

OneVision on September 18, 2009 at 8:47 AM

Know what we get out of this? The abolition of nuclear weapons.

See…? When Russia sees how good we are and how we wouldn’t hurt a fly, they’ll say to themselves “Oh, wise Obama, we too will get rid of all our horrible bombs and missiles.” And then the Chinese and the Jews and the Iranians and the Indians and the Pakistanis will say to themselves “Truly, we would be wrong to possess such dangerous things that so imperil our fellow humanity” And then a grateful world will gather beneath Obama’s window and call him the Great Liberator, for as Lincoln ended the slavery of the blacks, so will have Obama ended the slavery of all mankind to atomic annihilation.

dhimwit on September 18, 2009 at 8:53 AM

On the ground level of east European countries this is a big boost to the political parties that are pro-Russian yearning for the good old days of the communist Soviet Union.

These parties will now argue that this action by Obama shows that Poland, Ukraine, Georgia, etc. cannot trust the United States to be of help and that the governments of these countries should make closer ties to Russia, away from the west.

albill on September 18, 2009 at 9:00 AM

As I once posted. BO is like the Peter Sellar’s character in Being There. Everyone thinks he is a genius, but in actuality he is a moron.

BruceB on September 18, 2009 at 9:02 AM

In 1983 Obama wrote a piece against stationing Pershing cruise missiles in Europe in Columbia SDS magazine Sundial, titled Breaking the War Mentality. His arguments closely followed Soviet propaganda at the time – we know that anti-war movement was fueled by Soviet propaganda from archives opened after the fall of the Soviet Union.

SDS is Students for a Democratic Society (SDS), that also spawned Weather Underground (Bill Ayers etc.). The Sundial Magazine logo is identical to the Weather Underground logo and is also echoed in Obama’s logo.

modifiedcontent on September 18, 2009 at 9:06 AM

Obama is Jimmy Carter on saltpeter.

This betrayal is outrageous. Now all America’s ‘allies’ know that America cannot be relied upon.

chalons on September 18, 2009 at 9:09 AM

As an American of Polish ancestry I’m outraged by the actions of the Jugeared Kenyan Wetback Muslim Marxist.

Some part of me wonders if this isn’t a payback for the Polish King Jan III Sobieski putting the stops on the Muslim attempt to take Europe in 1683.

Scarface Pelosi is crying crocodile tears about Tea Partiers ‘getting violent’. Meanwhile the Teleprompter goes and sells out two whole nations. No tears for that huh nancy?

bullseye on September 18, 2009 at 9:33 AM

The naive unconstrained vision of the left (thank you Mr. Sowell) strikes again and leads us right down the crapper. As my 84 year old father said after pooping all over the walls in a men’s room, “Somebody’s gonna have to clean up this mess.”

WordsMatter on September 18, 2009 at 9:48 AM

Obama is Jimmy Carter on saltpeter.

This betrayal is outrageous. Now all America’s ‘allies’ know that America cannot be relied upon.

chalons on September 18, 2009 at 9:09 AM

Of all countries, the Czech Republic and Poland, countries sold out by the west before and after WWII. I wouldn’t blame them if they kicked every U.S. citizen out of their countries.

WordsMatter on September 18, 2009 at 9:50 AM

angryed, despite EU, Europe is not a unified block. In fact most of us get our news from Italy, France, Spain, Poland and pretty much anything that isn’t next door from British and American sources. Likewise many countries here have closer ties to Washington than to the next door neighbor. Remember that there are sometimes centuries old animosities simmering beneath the surface (France vs Germany, Hungary vs Romania, Poland vs Germany, etc etc) so trust is not that easy to achieve. The system created after WWII where the US effectively guarantees peace in Europe has been the most lasting and effective system in Europe since Pax Romana. It is of interest to US too, because it allows US considerable say in European affairs which does in fact translate into dollars in US coffers.

US is such an important counterbalance against Russia also because there is huge mistrust of Germany. MRP was not the first time Russia and Germany decided to divvy up smaller states between them. Right now there is widespread concern that Germany might be willing to sell out to get better deal on gas. When Schröder was leading Germany there was also the concern that in his haste to distance from the US he would embrace Russia to form an anti-US alliance (like MRP).

kittysaidwoof on September 18, 2009 at 10:10 AM

Poland sent us light cavalry during our Revolution to help us win our freedom and secure our liberty.

As Poland was divided again and again by European powers, immigrants to the US sent back packages and help and told of the land of liberty and freedom that they had helped secure even when Poland was occupied.

When free of the USSR, Poland became a staunch US ally. We depended on them to hold the center of Iraq while we fought outwards to the periphery. It was Poles that found Saddam’s old stockpiles and it was Poles who were most appreciated by the Iraqis as being a devout people who did not enforce their religion on any. Even when there was stark disagreement in Poland to help the US, the Polish government stood firm.

As a half-Polish American, I have criticized Europeans for not appreciating a people who work hard and expect honesty in their agreements. I have criticized the previous Administration for not offering the running of our ports to Poland, and not to Arabs. We cannot even bring ourselves to have free trade with these people who stood with us at the Founding.

An America that does not honor her agreements is not worth having as a friend an ally.

That is the Leftist vision of America: untrustworthy, unable to keep commitments, unwilling to sacrifice for others, unwilling to keep our allies as our friends. That only gets you a lack of allies in a harsh world, and our enemies rejoice at that. We are becoming unworthy of our friends and allies by the way we treat them.

We are not measured by our words nor our ideals, but how we work to keep them. That is a sad day when we turn our back on our friends and allies, as alienating them makes the world a harsher, nastier place and corrodes the understandings between Nations necessary for civilization to flourish.

ajacksonian on September 18, 2009 at 10:21 AM

I am not sure how we’re supposed to ask our young men and women to continue to go risk their life for this. It doesn’t feel too good.

I don’t think this will have an immediate impact on us. Where it might have an immediate impact is Georgia and Ukraine.

kittysaidwoof on September 18, 2009 at 2:58 AM

This is all so complicated! How can Barry possibly understand it? I think he does understand it and is green lighting every action, whether minor or profound, that dissociates us from our traditional allies.

ExpressoBold on September 18, 2009 at 11:21 AM

Man o man. The Poles are pi$$ed.

http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2009/09/poland-reacts-to-obamas-snub-treason-us.html

Doing this on the 17th of Sept. is beyond belief. For the Poles, it’s confirmation [fairly or unfairly] that Obama is in Putin’s pocket.

This is indescribably bad. Historically bad.

And it’s NO ‘misstep’. Teh One just threw Eastern Europe over the side, straight into the jaws of smiling Putin.

Don’t expect a repeat of Teh One’s post-election ‘victory lap’ in the EU for the rest of his first [and hopefully only] term. The crowds might not be so ‘adoring’ next time around.

CPT. Charles on September 18, 2009 at 11:36 AM

American Power tracked-back with, “Obama Abandons Missile Defense to Appease Russia, Iran”:

http://americanpowerblog.blogspot.com/2009/09/obama-abandons-missile-defense-to.html

Donald Douglas on September 18, 2009 at 12:45 PM

Remember when we had a REAL President that we could follow and our allies could count on only a few short months ago?

Jeff from WI on September 18, 2009 at 1:17 PM

As much of a royal sucker as he is for agreeing to this, The One deserves credit at least for the shrewdness of his politicking. It’s amazing how much goodwill on foreign policy he’s been able to buy from conservatives simply by being willing to stay the course in Afghanistan for another year.

I don’t know about the rest of you, but I’d say that showing Poland that America’s promises on national defense are worthless just about cancels out whatever good Obama has been allowing to be done in Afghanistan. Imagine if other countries decide that America can’t be counted on to defend them and they all start their own little nuke programs as insurance against whatever country is the biggest meanest bully in that part of the world.

Aitch748 on September 18, 2009 at 1:31 PM

kittysaidwoof on September 18, 2009 at 10:10 AM

Not my president.
I have been praying for E. Europe & now this. I don’t know if I can pray hard enough.
Dear God no one learns from history.
BO to Putin: Mr Fox. You are now in charge of the hen hounse.
Putin: *Grins evilly*

Badger40 on September 18, 2009 at 1:33 PM

I hestitate to post. I have no military “commonsense.” As much as I read, it just hits my brain and doesn’t really land.

But the pentagon actually agrees with him on this one.

AnninCA on September 18, 2009 at 1:52 PM

Someone get this man a lemonade stand to keep him busy, and let the adults handle this….pleeeeeeeeeeease???

capejasmine on September 18, 2009 at 2:14 PM

Russia’s PM Putin to meet U.S. businessmen
Thu Sep 17, 2009 11:33am EDT

MOSCOW, Sept 17 (Reuters) – Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin will meet several top U.S. executives on Friday, including General Electric Co (GE.N) and Morgan Stanley (MS.N), the Russian government said on Thursday.

Putin’s meetings with top Western executives are usually a precursor of major business deals. Earlier this year oil majors Total (TOTF.PA) and Royal Dutch/Shell (RDSa.L) announced plans to expand in Russia at meetings with Putin.

Talks with the U.S. firms follow a U.S. government decision to halt the deployment of a missile shield defence system in Europe, a move received positively by the Russian government.

ms on September 18, 2009 at 2:16 PM

Obama pulled out missile defense and sold out Europe and America to Russia so his General Electric buddies could make a little cash:

chicagojedi on September 18, 2009 at 2:38 PM

Someone explain why conservatives are against the penetagon.

AnninCA on September 18, 2009 at 2:41 PM

My heart aches for the people of Poland. I admire them. A devout people who threw off the shackles of communism. I personally apologize to them for our president’s decision to sell them out. This is a sad, sad day. I pray for their safety and protection as a nation and as individuals.

mamagetsamini on September 18, 2009 at 3:19 PM

Ann, conservatives consider national defense to be an open-ended commitment. The Pentagon has abandoned that view some time ago. It used to be one of the jobs of the CIVILIAN Secy of Defense was lobbying for MORE from Congress. Gates has the opposite view. The JCS seems to think their funding is a political question, theirs not to reason why.

If nothing else, the fact the first hint the Poles and Czechs had of this was an envoy informing them of a done deal– instead of soliciting their views before making a decision– was a damnfool slap in the face.

Chris_Balsz on September 18, 2009 at 3:37 PM

Obama is a disgrace, he really is. He shames me.

Terrye on September 18, 2009 at 4:07 PM

Frankly, I don’t want more Americans to die in Afghanistan for ingrates who will thank us with bombs and under a president who cannot run a war if his life depended on it and probably will not care too much of many more soldiers die, as most soldiers are conservative, in my opinion. Maybe I am too cynical, but I bet I am right.

immigrantchick on September 18, 2009 at 4:14 PM

Obama IS really like FDR. He sold Poland out too..Looks like 50 more years with a Russian boot on Polish necks…

adamsmith on September 18, 2009 at 4:53 PM

When you think that the Poles etc stuck their necks out for America just after joining the EU, over Iraq, this is some kick in the teeth. But I’m surprised we’re surprised. After all the first thing the guy did was send back Churchill’s bust. A symbol certainly, but …

And as for doing it it on the anniversary of the invasion of Poland, well, isn’t it lucky you have someone cultured in the WH now, rather than that rube Bush?

Hope on September 18, 2009 at 5:09 PM

If nothing else, the fact the first hint the Poles and Czechs had of this was an envoy informing them of a done deal– instead of soliciting their views before making a decision– was a damnfool slap in the face.

Chris_Balsz on September 18, 2009 at 3:37 PM

Obama’s foreign policy moves reminds one of Chamberlin. He has no clue what he is doing or why. These missiles were not a threat to Russia they were defense against people like Iran. We just gave part of the farm away and we didn’t get anything in return. What we did do is create a total lack of trust in US commitments. If I was the head of a foreign goverment I would not trust the US on anything as long as Obama is president.

duff65 on September 18, 2009 at 5:17 PM

If I was the head of a foreign goverment I would not trust the US on anything as long as Obama is president.

duff65 on September 18, 2009 at 5:17 PM

You mean an ALLY, or a friend. Dictators and enemies are rubbing their hands in glee. Putin must have wet himself laughing

Hope on September 18, 2009 at 5:24 PM

>>duff65 on September 18, 2009 at 5:17 PM<<

Let’s hope it ends with his Administration. But I think other countries have long memories.

I never understood the Ruski-apologists who said we have to see it from the Russian POV…if Russia can’t fire missles into NATO then it has to fear NATO…I wonder they realize they’re admitting Russia builds to defeat NATO. And why should NATO concede the possibility of bombardment to have better relations with a hostile neighbor? Maybe that makes sense from atop an ivory tower, but I’d rather be strong as the Bear.

Anyhow, if you oppose concessions to Russia, you’re a racist!

Chris_Balsz on September 18, 2009 at 5:31 PM

Hey now, let’s be fair. Putin threw in a Russian Nesting Doll set.

TheUnrepentantGeek on September 18, 2009 at 6:20 PM

MSNBC… NBC… CNBC are owned by GE

GE Capital has money problems and has become the world’s biggest nonbank finance company.

Under Obama:
1. Jeff Immelt, GE’s CEO is appointed Obama’s economic advisor
2. Jeff Immelt, GE’s CEO is appointed to the board of directors of Federal Reserve Bank of New York
3. GE will be meeting with Putin from Russia after Obama announced the US will pull its missile defense program from Poland.

GE is getting ALOT of help from Obama and all GE has to do in return is shower the airwaves for Obama.

MSNBC…. NBC…. CNBC are NOT in the best interest of the US citizens.

Pretty obvious.

ms on September 18, 2009 at 6:34 PM

Someone explain why conservatives are against the penetagon.

AnninCA on September 18, 2009 at 2:41 PM

Why can’t you spell?

You think cons always agree with the Pentagon ?

CWforFreedom on September 18, 2009 at 6:37 PM

As I think of it, every thing he has done so far is exactly what the communists would want. If it walks like a duck etc.
Don L on September 18, 2009 at 6:19 AM
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It is a duck…..IT IS A DUCK!

ms on September 18, 2009 at 7:03 PM

http://www.veteranoutrage.com

I told you he would sell out all of our alies

I actually sent an email to the israel embassy
telling them to RUN when obama or the democrats
promise anything..

And guess what
Again i was proven right

veteranoutrage on September 18, 2009 at 7:30 PM

I actually sent an email to the israel embassy
telling them to RUN when obama or the democrats
promise anything..

And guess what
Again i was proven right

veteranoutrage on September 18, 2009 at 7:30 PM

Run for your lives!

Chaz706 on September 18, 2009 at 8:54 PM

What do we get for this?

Due to the fact the launch trajectory for an Iranian ICBM shot at the US goes over Polish soil, we get nuclear vulnerability to Iran: Estimates state the Iranians will have an ICBM in 6 years, whereas, Obama’s new missile defense plan against a Middle Eastern launch US does not begin implementation on US soil until 2020.

trollkiller on September 18, 2009 at 9:11 PM

It seems as if they are inviting a crisis.

maryo on September 18, 2009 at 11:40 PM

Obama – “I told the United Nations, Huffington Post, New York Times, and Bill Mahr to call him a RACIST if he didn’t comply!”

Cybergeezer on September 19, 2009 at 1:24 PM

OMG!

I’m having the same elaborate nightmare again.
It’s going like this:
We’ve elected a Marxist buffoon for president.
He had no real political experience whatsoever.
The only thing the country knew about him was that he had lunatic friends like an unrepentant terrorist and a racist, hate-mongering minister. He was a disciple of some agitator Marxist named Alinsky.

So he gets elected solely because the media, which has been completely taken over by leftists (!), has successfully destroyed the image of the previous president and whips up support for the new guy with a mindless slogan of ‘Hope and Change.’

OK, now get this:
The new guy comes in and starts to intentionally ruin the economy, bad mouths the country, cozies up to its enemies and starts to sell off our allies, like Israel, Honduras, and the former Eastern block.
Basically the new guy becomes a Mussolini style facist bent on ruining the USA.

It gets worse, but you get the idea.

OK, this nightmare isn’t amusing anymore.
I’m going to take this dreamfork and gouge it into my eye, so’s I’ll wake up and this will all have been just a ridiculous and bad dream.

Here goes.
One, two, three…

justltl on September 19, 2009 at 10:52 PM

Ow.

justltl on September 19, 2009 at 10:52 PM

Interesting take from Australia

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,26093407-2703,00.html

numbeddown on September 19, 2009 at 11:30 PM

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