Biden: Iran not a threat
posted at 11:36 am on September 17, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
Why has the Obama administration decided to toss eastern Europe under the bus in order to make nice with Russia? According to CNN, Joe Biden says that a missile-defense system in Europe isn’t really necessary, because Iran isn’t much of a threat. No, really:
Vice President Joe Biden earlier refused to confirm to CNN that the George W. Bush-era plan was being shelved.
But he did explain the logic of doing so, saying Iran — a key concern for the United States — was not a threat.
“I think we are fully capable and secure dealing with any present or future potential Iranian threat,” he told CNN’s Chris Lawrence in Baghdad, where he is on a brief trip.
“The whole purpose of this exercise we are undertaking is to diminish the prospect of the Iranians destabilizing that region in the world. I am less concerned — much less concerned — about the Iranian potential. They have no potential at this moment, they have no capacity to launch a missile at the United States of America,” he said.
This recalls Obama’s analysis of the Iranian threat from April 2008:
Strong countries and strong presidents talk to their adversaries. That’s what Kennedy did with Khrushchev. That’s what Reagan did with Gorbachev. That’s what Nixon did with Mao. I mean, think about it. Iran, Cuba, Venezuela — these countries are tiny, compared to the Soviet Union. They don’t pose a serious threat to us the way the Soviet Union posed a threat to us. And yet, we were willing to talk to the Soviet Union at the time when they were saying, ‘We’re going to wipe you off the planet.’
And ultimately, that direct engagement led to a series of measures that helped prevent nuclear war, and over time, allowed the kind of opening that brought down the Berlin Wall. Now, that has to be the kind of approach that we take. You know, Iran, they spend one-one hundredth of what we spend on the military. If Iran ever tried to pose a serious threat to us, they wouldn’t stand a chance. And we should use that position of strength that we have, to be bold enough to go ahead and listen. That doesn’t mean we agree with them on everything. We might not compromise on any issues, but at least we should find out other areas of potential common interest, and we can reduce some of the tensions that has caused us so many problems around the world.
Nuclear weapons and long-range missiles in the hands of millenial Islamist lunatics in Tehran? No big threat … to us. Why should we risk annoying Russia to protect our allies against it? After all, Russia will use its influence to stop Iran from getting nukes, right? Right? Er …
Imposing swift additional sanctions against Iran over its nuclear programme would be a “serious mistake,” Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said on Thursday.
“Today there is a real chance to conclude talks whose results should be an agreement restoring trust in the purely peaceful nature of Iran’s nuclear programme,” Lavrov said in televised remarks.
“Disrupting this chance by demanding swift imposition of sanctions would be a serious mistake,” he added.
So we threw our allies under the bus to not get Russian cooperation in isolating Iran’s mullahs? This must be that smart power that Obama’s allies like to proclaim.
Don’t worry, the White House assures everyone. We’re not abandoning the allies who took significant geopolitical risks in standing up to Moscow over the missile-defense shield. The US will still provide some form of missile defense, even if it is much less reliable. Michael Goldfarb explains:
The White House has put out a “fact sheet” on their policy of Russian appeasement/missile defense surrender. The fact sheet says that the new approach — focusing on SM-3 and sea-based systems (presumably in Turkey) — will “augment our current protection of the U.S. homeland against long-range ballistic missile threats.” That is a lie. This system will provide zero, nada, zilch protection to the U.S. homeland, providing only defense against short- and medium-range missiles to Europe.
The fact sheet says this system will protect “our Allies in Europe sooner and more comprehensively than the previous program, and involves more flexible and survivable systems.” That is a lie. The system that was being placed in Poland is already operational in Alaska. These new plans will now take years of negotations to implement and will necessarily be less survivable as they will not be underground.
The fact sheet says that “The Czech Republic and Poland, as close, strategic and steadfast Allies of the United States, will be central to our continued consultations with NATO Allies on our defense against the growing ballistic missile threat.” That is a lie. The Czechs and Poles get a midnight phone call from the president while Tauscher is already in the air. They were not consulted with and have been given no assurances — because the president is selling them out.
The fact sheet says, “We also welcome Russian cooperation to bring its missile defense capabilities into a broader defense of our common strategic interests.” If that’s true, our president is totally clueless about Russian capabilities and intentions — even Bush, who looked into Putin’s soul, was not so delusional as to think U.S. missile defense could be dependent on Russian good will and cooperation. How long til the Russians threaten to throw us out of our “joint” missile defense facilities in order to coerce us into staying out of an attack on Georgia or some other democratic state in their near abroad.
We’ve sold out the Poles and the Czechs, who have seen the West do this before. The Times of London should get the last word here. Smart power, indeed:
By trading the loyalty of Poland and the Czech Republic to satisfy Russia’s security concerns, the United States is signalling that it no longer contests Moscow’s right to assert its interests in Eastern Europe.
Ukraine and Georgia’s chances of entering Nato over Russian objections have diminished further. The timing is disastrous for Ukraine in particular, given the Kremlin’s determination to reverse the pro-Western Orange Revolution and ensure victory for a pro-Russian candidate at presidential elections in January.
The Baltic States, already in Nato, will be feeling a chill as they ponder an even more assertive Russia. Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania have been among the Kremlin’s most vocal critics but Nato’s new Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen has declared a “true strategic partnership” with Russia his top priority.
The Bush Administration delighted in emphasising relations with the “new Europe” of former Soviet bloc countries, often at the expense of recalcitrant “old Europe” of Germany and France on foreign policy.
Mr Obama has shown that the US is no longer playing that game. He wants Russian help on Afghanistan and Iran and is leaving Europe to resolve its own relationship with Moscow on everything from energy security to historical grievances.
The Kremlin can barely believe its good fortune. Mr Obama has pressed the “reset” button to improve relations without obtaining anything more than permission for US aircraft to cross Russian airspace on resupply operations for troops in Afghanistan.










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Gird them Loins!
just the start of a seriously screwed up ride.
upinak on September 17, 2009 at 11:39 AM
Great, we’ve got Lloyd Christmas and Harry Dunne at the top of the Executive Branch.
teke184 on September 17, 2009 at 11:39 AM
Peace in our time.
mankai on September 17, 2009 at 11:40 AM
Biden is partially right: Iran is not as great a threat to the United States as Osama Obama.
MrScribbler on September 17, 2009 at 11:40 AM
OMG! They really are trying to totally destroy us.
stenwin77 on September 17, 2009 at 11:40 AM
And on the 70th anniversary of the Soviet invasion of Poland to boot…
mcassill on September 17, 2009 at 11:40 AM
The Russians seem to very happy about this new “smarter and stronger” missile defense.
d1carter on September 17, 2009 at 11:40 AM
Where are the trolls.
I wonder what their “feelings” are on this.
upinak on September 17, 2009 at 11:41 AM
Where is Hillary?
Knucklehead on September 17, 2009 at 11:41 AM
But Charles Johnson told me President Obama was doing a good job in every area of foreign policy except Israel.
BadgerHawk on September 17, 2009 at 11:41 AM
Joe Biden: “Look, I have met with Iran’s top military leaders. We had coffee and pie at Katie’s Restraunt on Main street. THey only want to go after Israel. Iran is not a threat.”
daesleeper on September 17, 2009 at 11:41 AM
Utter pieces of absolute incompetent garbage infest our White House.
Weakness abroad, deficits as far as the eye can see, common criminals funded with tax dollars, incentives given to people to go on and remain on welfare.
Anyone who voted for Obama last November voted for this.
That doesn’t mean the rest of us deserve this idiocy, nor does the free world.
NoDonkey on September 17, 2009 at 11:41 AM
Kool-aid is in short supply in D.C.
Tazed and Confused on September 17, 2009 at 11:41 AM
If I call Biden a liar am I still a racist?
sammypants on September 17, 2009 at 11:42 AM
White House staff have limited using the word “Iran” around Joe Biden, as whenever they say it he breaks out into the Flock of Seagulls song “I Ran”.
portlandon on September 17, 2009 at 11:42 AM
glad I don’t live in NYC or DC…
it would be racist to try to stop the iranians from asserting their rights to kill the jews and infidels..ie us…
right4life on September 17, 2009 at 11:42 AM
Uh-oh. If both Biden and Obama don’t see the threat, that means the threat is real and worse than imagined.
myrenovations on September 17, 2009 at 11:42 AM
Sometimes a coup d’etat is a good thing.
Ceroth on September 17, 2009 at 11:43 AM
I may be mistaken but I swear in O’s little news conference this morning that I heard him say Russia isn’t a threat but Iran is. Did I hear it wrong?
Monica on September 17, 2009 at 11:43 AM
Really not a threat? Isn’t Iranian weapons, bombs, and training showing up in Afghanistan? They aren’t meddling in Iraq anymore blowing sh*t up? We have Americans in both of those countries. If this Administration can’t be faithful to our long standing allies, how about just being faithful to American Troops?
Dr Evil on September 17, 2009 at 11:43 AM
And JFK, and Carter…
This will come back to roost, not this year,but beginning next year it will be apparent that this was a major mistake.
And the problems with politicians, they never make a mistake, so we will live with this, unless we change the administration.
right2bright on September 17, 2009 at 11:43 AM
I’m beginning to see a pattern here with Obama…
Seven Percent Solution on September 17, 2009 at 11:43 AM
Is the ability to launch a missile at the United States now the standard for whether of not to consider a country a threat? Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan never had any serious ability to attack the US proper either. I guess Japan used those balloons, but, whatever, nobody would say they weren’t threats because they couldn’t directly attack the mainland USA.
forest on September 17, 2009 at 11:44 AM
My cup of disgust runneth over.
ICBM on September 17, 2009 at 11:44 AM
Right – Iran had nothing to do with the 2006 Lebanon-Israeli war. Nothing at all to do with attacking our allies.
And they don’t really want to wipe the Jews off the map – that’s just rightwingnut crazy talk.
And when there appears suddenly a smoking hole in the ground somewhere in the ME courtesy of this “non-dangerous” country led by religious fanatics, Biden will then try to blame Republicans for not supporting Obama’s health care plans.
Or racism.
Good Lt on September 17, 2009 at 11:44 AM
Hey, Biden: Tell that to Israel.
Beaglemom on September 17, 2009 at 11:44 AM
No missile defense system? More money for ObamasCare.
petefrt on September 17, 2009 at 11:45 AM
So russia brokers a deal with hugo and we give them the missile defense shield for our allies.
Another siding for totalitarianism from team Obumbler.
jukin on September 17, 2009 at 11:45 AM
Umm, NoKo can launch one into U.S. air space and into California.
Are they are threat? Nope… not per Obama and his administration.
upinak on September 17, 2009 at 11:45 AM
Biden and Obama think Ahmadinejad’s speeches are just meaningless theater, like Barack Obama’s words.
“We will destroy America” is just something those rascally foreigners say. It’s just “red meat” for the base, right Assrod?
And even if they have a few nukes laying around, it’s all show.
We are being “led” by ignorant, corrupt, incompetent jackass Democrats. This is a disaster in every sense of the word.
NoDonkey on September 17, 2009 at 11:45 AM
Neville Biden:
mankai on September 17, 2009 at 11:46 AM
I have a bad feeling about this…
And to Poland and the Czech Republic, I am truly sorry. You both deserve much better than you got, both 70 years ago and today.
To Obama and Biden, these are my thoughts: !#@$%$(@#*$^%@^&$!!
jwolf on September 17, 2009 at 11:46 AM
Baghdad Biden strikes again.
commenter on September 17, 2009 at 11:46 AM
<em>”MORONIST!”
VegasRick on September 17, 2009 at 11:46 AM
When we were attacked after 911 – everyone rallied around Bush.
But seeing how this President has been so casual about defending the United States and it’s allies – what happens NEXT TIME we’re attacked?
I’ve got to tell you – if we are attacked – or if Israel is attacked – I’m more inclined to blame Barack Obama for it than any terrorist nation / organization / outfit / cell.
He is dismantling every bit of safety margin that Bush installed to protect us.
HondaV65 on September 17, 2009 at 11:46 AM
“So let me be absolutely clear. Iran is a grave threat. It has (a) ballistic nuclear program. It supports terrorism across the region. It has militias in Iraq. It threatens Israel’s existence.”
Barack Hussein Obama
aquaviva on September 17, 2009 at 11:47 AM
**The Camera is rolling and people watch Biden**
There ARE no Missile’s in the Unites States!
**As you see a Missile hit the Pentagon**
upinak on September 17, 2009 at 11:47 AM
But Iran isn’t a threat. The biggest threat is the U.S. or Israel going to war with them.
The Dean on September 17, 2009 at 11:47 AM
This is not going to end well………..
rockmom on September 17, 2009 at 11:47 AM
Where is cold warrior? I always appreciate his input on these kinds of posts?
Monica on September 17, 2009 at 11:47 AM
I think Israel is the first to go. :(
upinak on September 17, 2009 at 11:48 AM
Pakistan?
Afghanistan?
Syria?
Lebanon?
What if Ukraine goes rogue? It seems Russia supports military defense against them…
I don’t recall ever putting missile defense systems into Europe to defend against Iran anyway…
Skywise on September 17, 2009 at 11:48 AM
right4life on September 17, 2009 at 11:42 AM
I lived 3 miles from the White House until January 26 of this year and then I moved my family out of there.
I have zero confidence in the ability or even the will of Democrats to defend this country.
The only response from the juvenile delinquents in the Obama administration to an attack on our soil, will be how to spin it so Obama wins the next election, these people have no earthly idea what it is they are doing.
Corrupt, jackass incompetent Democrats.
NoDonkey on September 17, 2009 at 11:48 AM
If I call Biden a liar am I still a racist?
sammypants on September 17, 2009 at 11:42 AM
Good question. Here’s my mathematical analysis. Since Obama is half-black, criticizing him is half-racist. Now Biden is Obama’s deputy, as it were, so a criticism of him is half a criticism of Obama. Therefore, I conclude, you would be one quarter racist if you were to criticize Biden.
jwolf on September 17, 2009 at 11:49 AM
It’s OK…
… Obama is just being consistent.
Seven Percent Solution on September 17, 2009 at 11:49 AM
North Korea will never have nukes.
Ok they have nukes but no way to launch them further than South Korea.
Ok they have long range missiles they can’t get a missile further than the Sea of Japan.
Ok they can’t get a missile further than Japan.
Ok they can’t get a missile past Japan.
Ok they can reach Hawaii but Hawaii isn’t considered CONUS.
Bishop on September 17, 2009 at 11:50 AM
You forgot Gates as well.
F-22′s… we don’t need no stinking F-22′s!
upinak on September 17, 2009 at 11:50 AM
Where are the promised unicorns, fairy dust and rainbows?
farright on September 17, 2009 at 11:50 AM
cue R.E.M.
“It’s the end of the world as we know it..”
ZeeMI on September 17, 2009 at 11:50 AM
That’s an interesting scenario…how will we react.
They (liberals)will say we came together after 9/11, and will claim we are so partisan.
Yet his actions so much indicate and invite another 9/11, that criticism will be hard to contain.
With Pelosi blaming the CIA, Obama dismantling defenses…I hope it doesn’t happen, but if it does, what do the conservative do, how will we react? I tend to lean towards you, it is so obvious what is happening…but so many have not been informed.
right2bright on September 17, 2009 at 11:51 AM
That’s exactly what he’s doing. Feeding the moonbats while tossing Eastern Europe under the bus.
Barry the Appeaser.
Knucklehead on September 17, 2009 at 11:51 AM
Biden thinks Iran is not a threat?
I am shocked, shocked I tell you.
Everyone buckle up, it is going to be a wild ride!
rukiddingme on September 17, 2009 at 11:51 AM
Oh yeah, and Islam is a religion of peace.
Other things that are divorced from reality:
Michelle “Patient Dumping” Obama has anything positive and/or relevant to say in regard to reforming medical insurance.
Branch Rickey on September 17, 2009 at 11:52 AM
So we threw our allies under the bus to not get Russian cooperation in isolating Iran’s mullahs? This must be that smart power that Obama’s
Maybe we can get the GEICO cavemen to run things until when, and if, 2012 comes around.
Jed_Eckert on September 17, 2009 at 11:52 AM
Has there been any statements from Hillary?
d1carter on September 17, 2009 at 11:52 AM
Other small countries that have posed no threat to us in the past
Germany
Libya
Britain
Japan
txaggie on September 17, 2009 at 11:52 AM
According to the Obama Administration, giving up on missle defense is the only true way to protect the world from
AmericanIranian aggression.WordsMatter on September 17, 2009 at 11:54 AM
I am afraid you are correct…and they know it.
You can bet Israel is not happy with Obama…we need a Reagan or Thatcher…
right2bright on September 17, 2009 at 11:54 AM
Tiny…. why I’ll bet the nukes they make will only be able to be measured in kilo-tons and not even mega-tons. Fortunately, he missle technology they’ve been given will only reach Europe…. Oh, Europeans, how’s that hope n’ change working out for you folks.
CC
CapedConservative on September 17, 2009 at 11:54 AM
I clicked on the story preparing to write something about the “Gaffemeister” striking again, but as I read I realized that this was no gaffe. Biden is explaining the current administration’s policy and its rationale quite clearly. My thoughts are “they are actually throwing our truly friendly allies under the bus.” I can’t hardly believe what I reading. Then again, I do believe it.
mwbri on September 17, 2009 at 11:54 AM
This is something so wrong here. Why is Iran all of sudden not a threat?
I don’t believe is conspiracy theories, but there is something going on behind the scences. OR
The President just wants to dismantle America for a new world order.
I don’t know, I live in crazy town now…we all do.
Oil Can on September 17, 2009 at 11:55 AM
We know who the threat is, they are located in Washington DC
Vashta.Nerada on September 17, 2009 at 11:55 AM
Biden and Obama know that the only threat we face is that posed by un-American, Nazi, evil mongering, racist mobs of Republican-Americans.
The Iranian leaders are just friends they haven’t met yet.
Whereas Republican-Americans must be watched, monitored, silenced and disgraced. That’s where the real threat lies to Obama’s re-election prospects and isn’t that all that really matters?
NoDonkey on September 17, 2009 at 11:56 AM
This administration is chicken, and the head has been separated from the body…
Biden. Fridge. Nuke.
phreshone on September 17, 2009 at 11:56 AM
Sanctions.
Notice we haven’t really “heard’ anything about Iran… in a few weeks. Other then the UAE confiscating a shipment from NoKo to Iran… which was all Arms!
Interesting.. as they seem to have fallen off the planet.
upinak on September 17, 2009 at 11:56 AM
No wonder Cheney is freaking out over national security under Obama. Or should I say, lack thereof?
Sue on September 17, 2009 at 11:56 AM
I vote for the stack of money with the googley eyes to run the country… and oh yeah Mr. President, I’m still waiting for that pony you promised.
WordsMatter on September 17, 2009 at 11:57 AM
Donkey I bet you a nice of soda that Obama will use this… as the next step of his “Dictatorship”.
upinak on September 17, 2009 at 11:57 AM
Barry is cutting the defense as a “gotcha” for Republicans when they make the point that he is making us less safe. He can say hey Republicans want to raise the deficit for defense spending when what we really need is Obamacare.
farright on September 17, 2009 at 11:57 AM
None, she has been pushed to the side…I expect this may be the straw that breaks her back…
She can’t keep taking this, she is being completely ignored. Plus I would bet she was not for this, she knows Israel will be really unhappy.
right2bright on September 17, 2009 at 11:57 AM
I see the Obama administration has decided to turn up their reality distortion field up to 11 and point it Iran…
gwelf on September 17, 2009 at 11:57 AM
Paging Neville Chamberlain, paging Neville Chamberlain.
angryed on September 17, 2009 at 11:57 AM
In a sense, this is good for Israel.
They now clearly know that the US has abandoned them and that they will have to go it alone in taking out the Iranian threat.
Obama is a gelded Islam running dog lackey. The Israelis now know what they have to do and Bibi the man and the leader to do it.
I wish we had an actual president, but it is what it is.
NoDonkey on September 17, 2009 at 11:58 AM
It’s okay. I’ve been told that the world loves us now because Bush is gone and Obama is here.
bridgetown on September 17, 2009 at 11:58 AM
No. You would be guilty of picking on the mentally handicapped.
portlandon on September 17, 2009 at 11:58 AM
Maybe Bush will step up finally…
right2bright on September 17, 2009 at 11:59 AM
What planet is Biden living on? Hasn’t he read the report from FRENCH intelligence saying that Iran’s nuclear program is further along than previously thought?
Whenever the French are more hawkish than the U.S., we’re REALLY in trouble! Save us, Sarko!
Steve Z on September 17, 2009 at 11:59 AM
I presume she still has presidential ambitions. If that’s true, I don’t look for her to hang around this bunch too much longer. She could actually do this country a service by resigning and distancing herself from them. A little truth-telling by Hillary would go a long way to help her cause, and maybe our nation. I don’t trust her, but she wouldn’t be as bad as Obama and Co.
flyfisher on September 17, 2009 at 11:59 AM
This is what happens when you vote for idiots, America.
Vashta.Nerada on September 17, 2009 at 12:00 PM
i think the russians are racist.
SHARPTOOTH on September 17, 2009 at 12:01 PM
Even the GEICO gecko would defend us better than Obama!
Steve Z on September 17, 2009 at 12:01 PM
Does anyone else get the feeling that things (both foreign and domestically) are turning out to be far worse than we thought they would with this bunch in office?
WordsMatter on September 17, 2009 at 12:01 PM
Clearly a calculated move by the White House- to remind the public how much worse it can get if they keep discrediting the filthy liar to the point he is forced out of office.
highhopes on September 17, 2009 at 12:01 PM
I am sure the rest of the world is totally confused. Every 4-12 years the foreign policy of this country changes to something that is unrecognizable to them. There is no consistency. That is the reason they cannot trust us.
We get the Dems every 4-8 years who have no love of the US and then the responsible people show up and thrwart the world’s evil plans. What’s a foreign country to do?
BetseyRoss on September 17, 2009 at 12:02 PM
You know I was up for a while. I knew about this 9PM my time. I wrote about it as it disturbed me to no end.
But people aren’t putting two and two together.
upinak on September 17, 2009 at 12:02 PM
No. You would be guilty of picking on the mentally
handicappedchallenged. That’s more accurate!chickasaw42 on September 17, 2009 at 12:02 PM
We weren’t putting missile defenses in Poland to defend the US, you imbecile.
Akzed on September 17, 2009 at 12:02 PM
I thought that their foreign policy would be this idiotic, but I have to admit that the Obama “administration’s” utter incompetent and tone deafness when it comes to our economy, caught me off guard.
These clowns make me yearn for the days of the Clinton Administration. They were a complete joke when it came to foreign policy, but at least they knew enough to get out of the way when it came to the economy, instead of trying to “fix” it.
NoDonkey on September 17, 2009 at 12:04 PM
Relax everyone, I’m sure The One received assurances from Russia and Iran that they would behave themselves from now on. It’s all good you see.
WordsMatter on September 17, 2009 at 12:05 PM
The Stack of Money is already running the country… he’s a Lobbyist for “Special Interest” Groups…
Stack of money… is that the FED?
Romeo13 on September 17, 2009 at 12:05 PM
I think all you can do anymore is laugh, drink and hope we all live until 2012.
gophergirl on September 17, 2009 at 12:05 PM
“And on the 70th anniversary of the Soviet invasion of Poland to boot…”
You can bet that has not gone unnoticed in Eastern Europe.
WitchDoctor on September 17, 2009 at 12:06 PM
CNN has an active poll on their front page right now…
Monica on September 17, 2009 at 12:07 PM
If Iran isn’t a threat why do the Russians want to deploy the S-300 missile defence system in Iran?
fourdeucer on September 17, 2009 at 12:07 PM
Carter caved into the Iranian mullahs and now Dear Leader does the same.
Can polyester leisure suits be far behind?
rbj on September 17, 2009 at 12:07 PM
I am I the only one who believes that, to this day, even at 66 years old, Joe Biden still gets a thrill every morning when he realizes he gets to put on his “big-boy” pants.
Doorgunner on September 17, 2009 at 12:08 PM
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It’s just a matter of priorities. President Obama (PBUH) and his ilk in Congress are “democRATS” / liberals / socialists / statists / marxists / communists. Their agenda is to use all resources to turn the U.S.A. into the new United Socialist States of Amerika.
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Their goals are more in line with those of our enemies than they are with the goals of our democratic friends. Listen to and watch The Messiah’s videos–and those of his ilk–over the last 4 years. Their real agenda is clear to see.
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Buckle up–it’s going to be ROUGH RIDE as our foreign enemies try to bring us down–with help from our own country’s FIFTH COLUMN. It’s like watching the runup to WW2 again.
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John Bibb
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rocketman on September 17, 2009 at 12:09 PM
Dang it. Meant to ask “Am I the only one who…?”
Doorgunner on September 17, 2009 at 12:09 PM
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