ACORN Videos: San Diego and Tijuana Dreaming
posted at 8:46 am on September 17, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
James O’Keefe, Hannah Giles, and Big Government strike again, this time in the sunny clime of San Diego, California. As they note, San Diego would be a perfect place to smuggle underage Salvadorean girls across the border into the US, but as Juan Carlos from ACORN advises, why bother? Just set up the brothel in nearby Tijuana, where O’Keefe and Giles can operate outside US law. In fact, the ACORN worker offers to partner with them if they do, because he’s got connections across the border:
“I have a lot of connections in Tijuana.”
He’s got a lot of connections, and apparently Juan Carlos is shopping for some social interaction, too:
In the second video, O’Keefe plays with Juan Carlos, telling him that he went to ACORN because some unnamed organization in Oceanside called the cops on them when they started talking about trafficking in 13-year-old girls. Even though Juan Carlos says he has cousins who are cops, he assures O’Keefe and Giles that he won’t drop a dime on them, and that he’ll help get the girls across the border. “Trust the Mexican people,” Juan Carlos says a number of times.
In the other four undercover projects, ACORN offered advice on tax evasion and hiding child prostitution, which was despicable enough. In San Diego, the ACORN staffer wanted a piece of the action. Is this a normal way for ACORN to raise funds?
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Yes, it does appear that way, doesn’t it? I wonder if she’ll come out with a strong statement against child prostitution while at the same time refusing to defund ACORN.
a capella on September 17, 2009 at 9:32 AM
Now take these videos, and imagine some guy coming in that needs a safe house for drugs…how many drug dens has ACORN set up?
This prostitution ring is extreme, imagine someone that with a wink says they need a house for distribution of “home” products. How easy it would be for ACORN to turn their back on something that appears more legitimate.
right2bright on September 17, 2009 at 9:32 AM
I hope they have a ton more. Allah is right, start writting Boehner to get this bill to the floor ASAP
deidre on September 17, 2009 at 9:33 AM
Another great from Diversity Lane.
mizflame98 on September 17, 2009 at 9:25 AM
mizflame98: Thats a good one to,lol:)
canopfor on September 17, 2009 at 9:33 AM
Lefty hysteria reaches
epiccrazy epic proportions.jhffmn on September 17, 2009 at 9:34 AM
Neither O’Keefe or Hannah have any grammar issues, trackmarks or drug induced tics. Imagine Acorn not catching on when they came in and pretty much said, “Excuse me please, but I would like to inquire about getting a home loan for a brothel? Yes, of course, I will consult with my pimp.” Do whores really talk like that?
Haunches on September 17, 2009 at 9:34 AM
Exactly , the fear is that this will lead to obama so to preempt they try to ignore and downplay the story.It’s ugly and leftwing.
the_nile on September 17, 2009 at 9:34 AM
This is not just brave but dangerous. They should have had protection.
shick on September 17, 2009 at 9:34 AM
definitely ballsy
which i give them “mad props” for
blatantblue on September 17, 2009 at 9:35 AM
What I really want to know, since we’re supposedly going to spend TRILLIONS with groups like ACORN, is WHY do we need them. Are the poor & minorities so stupid that they can’t find a bank for a home loan, or welfare benefits, or any other government freebie, all by themselves??
Jeff from WI on September 17, 2009 at 9:37 AM
O’Reilly sees his chance of interviewing anyone from the administration going down the tubes.
O’Reilly may be one that leaves Fox News, just so he can say he is independent and has a chance to interview these clowns.
Of course to do that he has to bow down to the liberal’s and he is already on one knee.
Saying there is no connection between Obama and ACORN is laughable…they have exchanged hundreds of thousands of dollars, exchanged contact lists, ACORN exclusively campaigned for Obama…when Dick Morris started to list these items, O’Reilly cut him off.
right2bright on September 17, 2009 at 9:37 AM
How many offices remember the “performing artists” and are now shaking in their boots?
There are shredders working overtime all across the country in various Acorn offices.
I think James O’Keefe and Hannah Giles should have dropped the bomb all at once so that investigation could have started before the shredding.
shick on September 17, 2009 at 9:37 AM
One would assume that after CRA, ACORN would be obsolete
blatantblue on September 17, 2009 at 9:37 AM
Ooopps..I forgot, evidently the poor and minorities are too stupid to figure out how to register to vote for themselves either.
Jeff from WI on September 17, 2009 at 9:38 AM
They aren’t stupid. They are the victims of racism. Have you not been paying attention?
It appears that the only non-racists are also criminals. Mutual exclusivity. See the progressive Venn diagram.
Haunches on September 17, 2009 at 9:43 AM
And writers get paid to create this stuff…what a link.
right2bright on September 17, 2009 at 9:44 AM
Here in Pa, all welfare applications have a section where you can check that you want to register to vote. So I dont know why Acorn is needed.
oh…maybe for those who cant read.
becki51758 on September 17, 2009 at 9:44 AM
But no matter how much damage they are doing to the country now, I still gain hope from the journalistic left of MSM is committing suicide. Because, as their ratings plummet, crash and burn, what’s Left for News will be nothing.
Loxodonta on September 17, 2009 at 9:49 AM
Wow. I wonder how dad feels about Hannah in these vids. I know it’s for the cause but she is the type that attracts attention, if you know what I mean, and that means bad guys as well as good media, which she’s already getting. Yikes, that young lady is smokin’.
smellthecoffee on September 17, 2009 at 9:49 AM
I still think ACORN had a lot to do with Barry winning. That, and McCain being completely uninspiring.
The left keeps saying that all the racists wake up everyday and can’t believe that Obama is president. Maybe because ACORN threw the election. Obama=Acorn
Haunches on September 17, 2009 at 9:52 AM
The only explanation I can think of as to why this unintentionally funny Newsweek cover hasn’t been brought up yet in all this race baiting, is that no one actually reads Newsweek anymore.
I think every discussion of lefty calls of racism needs to begin with a picture of that Newsweek cover from here on out.
jhffmn on September 17, 2009 at 9:52 AM
We – get – your – point. Thanks.
Akzed on September 17, 2009 at 9:52 AM
I know what you mean. If I were her dad and she told me what she was going to do I say that’s not safe. I strongly recommend against it. If I she told me after the fact I’d let her know that what she did was extremely dangerous and shouldn’t have been done without proper safeguards.
shick on September 17, 2009 at 9:54 AM
Every newscase about these videos should be accompanied by the clip of Obama promising Acorn that they would help him shape his agenda in the Whitehouse.
mbs on September 17, 2009 at 9:57 AM
On the contrary, I believe we are now seeing what community organizing is all about.
Vashta.Nerada on September 17, 2009 at 9:57 AM
I’ll go beyond that. Her acting clothes are degrading. My guess is that she had some difficult nights sleeping.
I’m sure she was glad to be back in a long dress and feel like a lady again when the whole thing was over.
shick on September 17, 2009 at 9:58 AM
Nice piece on how government funded “nongovernment organizations influence policy and suck big dollars out of the budget. In the UK, the total bill is 170 billion pounds annually. I hope this ACORN business leads to some critical analysis as to the direction this kind of funding for all NGOs takes us.http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/09/17/the-attack-of-the-quangos/#more-5951
a capella on September 17, 2009 at 9:59 AM
Nancy Pelosi condemns ACORN for moving kiddie whorehouses from San Diego to Tijuana in 3 … 2 … 1 ….
corona on September 17, 2009 at 10:02 AM
Yep. He can’t run away from that. It also may cause some additional pressure to b placed on the tzar concept.
a capella on September 17, 2009 at 10:03 AM
If I were her dad, I’d BE there under cover to make SURE there were safe guards. I’d also be very proud of her taking down an enemy of this country, just as evil or dangerous to us than Bin Laden .
Jeff from WI on September 17, 2009 at 10:03 AM
Wow. Just wow.
Ed/Allah, PLEASE put that cover up with a story about the left’s cries of racism. It’s one thing to call an adult a racist because you don’t agree. This is something altogether different. If we don’t stop this now by calling it out and exposing the blatant in your face tactic as stupidity revealed, we accept their premise, and their premise is dead-set WRONG.
Oh, and is it not interesting that all of these supposedly disparate outfits suddenly decide to cry racist all at the same time? And I’m curious, what’s their next card when this over-the-top one doesn’t work… which it won’t?
And is it not at all racist for people this side of the border to have no trouble smuggling in 12 and 13 year old El Salvadorian girls to be sex slaves? Yet amazingly no one on the left seems to have any problem with that.
UnderstandingisPower on September 17, 2009 at 10:05 AM
Just a few bad apples, nothing to get worked up about.
I mean, there are worse people, in, let’s see, Congress!
The cops want to set up a real sting, they should call a meeting of Congressional Democrats and drop a net on the real criminals in this country.
NoDonkey on September 17, 2009 at 10:07 AM
NBC San Diego went to their office yesterday – yes NBC
http://speakmymindblog.com/2009/09/16/acorn-san-diego/
sherryande on September 17, 2009 at 10:08 AM
I’ve refused to watch BOR ever since his disgusting take on the Sean Hornbeck kidnapping. I really can’t stand him.
mbs on September 17, 2009 at 10:09 AM
There are a million things to call O’Reilly, but stupid is not one of them. Have you seen the ratings this week because of the ACORN story?
He usually gets about 3.6M, Tuesday it was over 4M. Beck and Hannity were HUGE, both over 3.4M. The other channels tanked because they were not covering the story.
barnone on September 17, 2009 at 10:15 AM
newscast, can’t spell this morning.
mbs on September 17, 2009 at 10:16 AM
I know. I thought about my dad…he’d be so proud…and so scared. They’re going deeper and deeper. I wonder how much they really anticipated. I’m not doubting their bravery or intelligence, but, did they ever have any experience dealing with the underbelly like this before? They are exposing a criminal enterprise in a sensational, personal way. Expect these criminals who have recently been fired to not be the only ones pissed. I just wonder how if they thought about SERIOUS repercussions? These aren’t just petty crimes. And, even though this is who ACORN is (which we always knew, thanks to Michelle Malkin, etc.) it still is borderline entrapment.
Diane on September 17, 2009 at 10:17 AM
Yeah, I agree. The music bed was emphasizing that and was gratuitous. The walk up the stairs, the bit at the end–titillation, for sure. Her having done that is not as damaging to her as seeing the finished product packaged that way, over and over. I only hope she didn’t enjoy too much feeling the power that hot women have over men–and it’s only beginning. All the talking head will be talking about her looks, once they get around to covering the story, and Playboy offers her a spread in 5, 4, 3, 2 . . . She’s young and at a very dangerous age. Reminds of that line from the Sade song–”I’m loaded, don’t know where to point this thing.” Get married Hannah–and don’t take too long about it either.
smellthecoffee on September 17, 2009 at 10:20 AM
Please explain in a bit more depth.
a capella on September 17, 2009 at 10:20 AM
ACORN claims to have turned O’Keefe and Giles away at several of their offices (including New York if I remember correctly), but I can’t help but wonder whether they turned away one or more other pimp/prostitute business proposals instead. (“We get so many pimps/prostitutes seeking criminal advice, it’s hard to remember which one is which.”)
ya2daup on September 17, 2009 at 10:24 AM
These videos are most comparable to “To Catch a Predator”… it’s the same type of voyeurism, drama, and hilarity… but these ACORN people won’t be charged with anything… and ACORN will probably be able to keep their funding… they will be watched more closely, forced to be more transparent, and will have to train their workers better….
ninjapirate on September 17, 2009 at 10:25 AM
For those who have not been listening for a while, welcome. For the best background on ACORN and Obama, you will need to extensively read “the boss”, Michelle Malkin’s numerous pieces. Start with this one, and then go through her trackbacks for earlier pieces.
barnone on September 17, 2009 at 10:26 AM
It is not entrapment — borderline or otherwise — because no criminal action occurred. The ACORN office workers freely volunteered information which demonstrated their willingness to assist with illegal activities.
ya2daup on September 17, 2009 at 10:31 AM
Obviously this can all be attributed to some rogue Human Resources employee who just happened to be the one to hire the scum of the Earth in these videos. Because we all know ACORN is a honest and virtuous organization that is interested only in lawfully registering unregistered voters and assisting those in need.
And I bet this particular ACORN employee is not actually scum. But just wants to get these two to set up shop in Tijuana so that he and his misguided Mexican brothers can administer a little vigilante justice on their asses outside of US jurisdiction for wanting to pimp children.
NotCoach on September 17, 2009 at 10:31 AM
If I were Barry and his shemale bride I’d start getting nervous right about now. Maybe even too nervous to teabag…;)
inevitable on September 17, 2009 at 10:32 AM
Borderline entrapment? Because of what? The hidden camera? Asking questions? Posing as someone you’re not?
Face it. If someone walked into my business, told me they were a pimp and a prostitute and wanted to set up an underage brothel and how best to do that… I would not talk to them for an hour about the best way to game the system, avoid taxes, hide the proceeds, keep the girls from being educated, set up a “group house” to hide what you’re doing, offer use of my “contacts” over the border, proposition the prostitute…
Seriously. Who does these things but someone who lives on the underbelly of life and has no qualms whatsoever about that? Further, can you imagine standing there GIVING this advice with one of your co-workers in the room thinking that your boss could walk in at any moment? Come on. These people weren’t afraid of getting caught. They saw nothing out of the ordinary with these two. All they wanted to do was to HELP them by any illegal (or legal if it worked that way, decent or indecent) way possible.
And lest we forget, they are giving this advice and being paid… BY US! WE are the employer, and apparently they ain’t too worried about us finding out either (though maybe they should have been).
UnderstandingisPower on September 17, 2009 at 10:33 AM
Entrapment only occurs when one of the parties is law enforcement or some other gov’t agent. Neither apply here.
volnation on September 17, 2009 at 10:34 AM
Talking heads–ahem.
smellthecoffee on September 17, 2009 at 10:34 AM
Please define “better”
UnderstandingisPower on September 17, 2009 at 10:34 AM
Thanks, but I’m on top of all that. I was wondering how this could be called borderline entrappment when no law enforcement organization was involved. I’m inclined to think that type of logic is the type that says a rapist was entrapped because a woman wore a short skirt.
a capella on September 17, 2009 at 10:34 AM
spelling correction- entrappment s/b entrapment.
a capella on September 17, 2009 at 10:36 AM
But MSM is too big to fail! They will require government
assistanceownership in the end.shick on September 17, 2009 at 10:36 AM
Well, the other ones didn’t really bother me as much. They were crimes. They dealt with the same issues, but, it was slightly less seedy, if that’s possible. It still implicated these people and they certainly acted as if this wasn’t the first time they had heard this. They were prepared to answer these questions.
The man (and it could be because it was a male) seemed more serious, yet, more reluctant. He was interested in Hannah (which made me realize just how dangerous this was for her, in particular) and he had actual information/connections which he seemed willing (for a price) to share. I was wondering who he was calling. When he left the office with them, he still had it. It made me wonder what he was doing/recording? At the same time, we were watching these two cracker jack reporters just selling the story (albeit geekily) and this man was…kind of lured in by Hannah to nearly commit. This is something that law enforcement does PROFESSIONALLY. I don’t know what this all means…I just know this made me feel uncomfortable. I don’t feel badly for the people implicated at all. But, I just think this done without proper oversight seems…weird. Granted, I doubt they thought they’d get these results, really.
Diane on September 17, 2009 at 10:37 AM
And, even though this is who ACORN is (which we always knew, thanks to Michelle Malkin, etc.) it still is borderline entrapment.
Diane on September 17, 2009
They are private citizens, not the police. How is this borderline entrapment? Are citizens not allowed to expose corruption?
SKYFOX on September 17, 2009 at 10:38 AM
Which was what I was wondering. I wasn’t sure whether that would apply to this.
Diane on September 17, 2009 at 10:41 AM
You must be a better dad than me because I didn’t think it all the way through.
Though Obama is very dangerous to our country he hasn’t planned anything at the level of Osama.
shick on September 17, 2009 at 10:41 AM
If you’re not doing anything wrong it’s hard to “entrap” you.
sherryande on September 17, 2009 at 10:43 AM
Take it down a notch. I wasn’t sure…I’m not familiar with what the legal definition is. As I said, borderline.
Exposing corruption is AWESOME. I love it. I’ve just said that I worry about this particular, sensational method. Michelle Malkin uncovers corruption DAILY. But, this is just a different medium. It’s also exponentially more dangerous. Heads are rolling and these criminals are are PISSED.
Diane on September 17, 2009 at 10:44 AM
Juan also attended a rally on 8/27/09 representing ACORN – delivering petitions to Dianne Feinstein and Barbara Boxer.
http://speakmymindblog.com/2009/09/16/acorn-san-diego/
sherryande on September 17, 2009 at 10:45 AM
I didn’t know what the actual, legal definition of entrapment was. So, is it entrapment for law enforcement to do stings on underage sex solicitation online? Serious question. They do those Dateline exposes all the time.
(rhetorical exit question: wonder why dateline hasn’t done what these two have done in ACORN offices across the country, when they have no problem facilitating stings on sex predators? hmm.)
Diane on September 17, 2009 at 10:47 AM
Thank you.
a capella on September 17, 2009 at 10:48 AM
You know what, if ACORN was remotely honest, and had the merest sliver of honest people working for them, James O’Keefe and Hannah Giles would have been reported to the police, and, more importantly, a warning would have been sent out to all of their affiliates about them.
That the two where able to travel to different offices around the country without any kind of alarm being raised says a lot in and of itself.
Count to 10 on September 17, 2009 at 10:57 AM
O’Keefe and Giles to ACORN: All your base are belong to us.
Check out the Duane Patterson column in the headline threads. As each new ACORN office is exposed, the ACORN reps edit their statements that the sting was attempted and failed at cities A, B, C, etc, to remove the city that was just stung. And then, get this, the NYT and WaPo go with the new, improved BS excuse and don’t ask ACORN why they edited the list! It is SO NICE to have a professional, unbiased major media industry.
jwolf on September 17, 2009 at 10:58 AM
Because Charlie Gibson had no idea it was even a story? haha that was a joke because I think Dateline is NBC and good ol’ Charlie is ABC, and the two have NOTHING in common except… well, their agenda and their world point of view… Besides, they are much more comfortable reporting on how tragic it is that these horrible conservative reporters are going after little ol’ ACORN who is so obviously an “embattled group.”
Entrapment is a law enforcement thing not a media thing and certainly not a private citizen thing, and there are great lengths and rules you have to meet to be able to use the evidence you get through a law enforcement sting operation in court. I don’t know all the legalities, but this case isn’t one of them.
UnderstandingisPower on September 17, 2009 at 10:59 AM
Entrapment is the act of a law enforcement agent inducing a person to commit an offense which would be illegal and the person would otherwise have been unlikely to commit.
I don’t think Hannah was hiding a badge in that outfit.
barnone on September 17, 2009 at 10:59 AM
Unfortunately, that works both ways.
Count to 10 on September 17, 2009 at 10:59 AM
Honestly, I think this is a great side benefit to what they are doing. I mean we always knew the MSM was left-biased. But this goes WAY beyond biased into actively rooting for and slanting the news to make it fit your pre-determined agenda. That’s not supposed to be the point of the media.
More and more people because of this story in particular are seeing what the MSM are not telling us AND how they present stories in a way that slants how we see it. The more they do that to people who SAW the original piece, the more they lose credibility. I mean when they talk about these rotten people who were so “scary,” and then you go watch it for yourself… What’s left of their credibility gets blown to smithereens.
I still say this is going to leave a lasting mark not just on ACORN but on the politicians they expose AND on the MSM. I know I won’t ever look at any of them the same way. They no longer have my “benefit of the doubt.”
UnderstandingisPower on September 17, 2009 at 11:05 AM
I’ll pray that it doesn’t. I have a feeling she was brought up to respect herself. I’m sure she felt a little dirty in the end. If I were a journalist I’d ask her those kinds of questions.
shick on September 17, 2009 at 11:09 AM
Thanks. I wasn’t aware of the legal definition. That makes sense and sheds more light.
But, I’m sure everyone agrees that this is getting deeper and deeper…and more dangerous.
Diane on September 17, 2009 at 11:10 AM
The race card is on the table fellas!
http://crooksandliars.com/susie-madrak/why-wont-media-address-real-issue-aco
Hilarious. They weren’t complaining when the media wasn’t even addressing the issue, now they’re upset that it’s not being framed in the way they want – eg. You’re all racists.
bileduct on September 17, 2009 at 11:12 AM
I guess you are right that it does. Another similarity, both men have the best intentions. How’s the phrase about the road to hell go?…..
shick on September 17, 2009 at 11:14 AM
Bank on it, liberals live on contradictions. After all, ACORN does a greater good by getting Democrats in office, right?
Grafted on September 17, 2009 at 11:15 AM
Obama to Acorn: We’re Goin’ to be Callin’ on You to Help Shape the Agenda
http://foxyurl.com/uYa
jjrakman on September 17, 2009 at 11:18 AM
James and Hannah were asked last night on Hannity if they tried their skit anywhere and were turned away. He asked them twice and they said no.
New talking point which Juan Williams said last night and that I heard on the radio this morning: Why would we not fund Acorn when we funded Halliburton (which is much more evil and corrupt).
New Corollary: Whoever gets compared to Haliburton has lost.
Haunches on September 17, 2009 at 11:18 AM
We know that the U.S. AG is totally useless and probably has a piece of ACORN’s action himself and will not move against Capo Obama’s favorite crime syndicate in any case, but where are the state AG’s?
MB4 on September 17, 2009 at 11:23 AM
To a large extent, the publicity and the high public profile of both investigators should give pause to anyone intending them physical harm. Given ACORN’s demonstrated enthusiasm for lawbreaking, they know they would be first on the hot seat were anything to happen to either James or Hannah. They can’t afford that right now. But, I agree, that long term they will have to be looking over their shoulders.
a capella on September 17, 2009 at 11:25 AM
Now every college student with a camera is going to be investigating everyone.
Speedwagon82 on September 17, 2009 at 11:27 AM
Exactly.
Diane on September 17, 2009 at 11:36 AM
Wow, Speedwagon, you really lived up to your name on that one. Got them talking points early, I see.
UnderstandingisPower on September 17, 2009 at 11:37 AM
What did the President know about the crime syndicate ACORN’s crime spree and when did he know it?
MB4 on September 17, 2009 at 11:37 AM
A picture is worth a thousand words. A video is worth a million.
petunia on September 17, 2009 at 11:38 AM
I cannot recommend enough the documentary VERY YOUNG GIRLS. It’s on netflix. Real racism in America is that Pimps are not treated/thought of the way pedophiles and child molesters are . . . because that’s what they are but worse.
Simona on September 17, 2009 at 11:42 AM
Good. As long as the investigation is honest that is what should happen. Of course there is the very real possibility that this could turn into one group manipulating exposes of each other…
But if someone in government right or left is doing something wrong we should expose it.
petunia on September 17, 2009 at 11:43 AM
Um, sorry if you misunderstood. I wasn’t saying lefty talking points. I was just remarking that this is going to set off a large wave of 20 year olds trying to embarrass the other side of their ideology. Everyone is going to be on their toes after this. I just hope some liberal doesn’t manage to embarrass a conservative group.
Speedwagon82 on September 17, 2009 at 11:44 AM
But, but, but, you see, it’s totally not ACORN’s fault. After all, look at the people they have to work with…
I’m sorry, and WE’RE the ones who are racist?
UnderstandingisPower on September 17, 2009 at 11:46 AM
If Halliburton is so corrupt where are the videos! If the Dems thought Halliburton was so bad it was their obligation to gather evidence and demand an investigation. Talk without evidence is just talk.
If they’ve got evidence let’s see it. If not shut your pie hole.
petunia on September 17, 2009 at 11:46 AM
Haliburton performed a real service and occasionally the only company with it’s abilities. There are more institutions that help the poor than you can shake a stick at and thankfully most are not corrupt and many don’t take taxpayer money.
Cindy Munford on September 17, 2009 at 11:49 AM
If they are doing anything close to child prostitution I hope they get exposed. This isn’t about left or right. This is about corruption in our government.
Actually if there is any group on the right getting taxpayer money I hope it is the right that exposes what they are doing and put a stop to it.
petunia on September 17, 2009 at 11:49 AM
Sorry. To me, if someone deserves to be embarrassed because they are doing something embarrassing and immoral (not to mention HARMFUL to others), I don’t really care if they are Republican, Democrat, or Martian. Remember the Congress Critter caught sexting the interns or that president, you know the one, caught… ahem… in the Oval Office with an intern. Yeah, I’m not going to be crying in my soup if one of them, you know, gets caught being an idiot by a 20-year-old with a camera.
Moral of the story: Be very careful how stupid and embarrassing and immoral you are because someone MAY be watching.
UnderstandingisPower on September 17, 2009 at 11:50 AM
Exactly! If you want to be a public servant with all the perks that brings you better be clean! Because we only need the honest and clean. Criminals–do something else.
petunia on September 17, 2009 at 11:52 AM
If they do, they do, at least we won’t try to prop them up. Although I assume you are talking about the differnt threshhold levels that are bound to be used.
Cindy Munford on September 17, 2009 at 11:52 AM
They’ve gone Batsh*t crazy with that word and it’s only been what… 8 months into his FIRST TERM?
This isn’t even an election year and I’ve heard the accusation of racism more in this year than I have for a number of election years.
It’s been a long 8 months. It’s going to be a longer 3 years and 4 months.
And half the country is already quite tired of it.
Chaz706 on September 17, 2009 at 11:52 AM
About Halliburton. They are acused of making profits off government… not bringing sex slavery into our neighborhoods! That line of talk needs shut down now!
petunia on September 17, 2009 at 11:54 AM
I don’t want to see that stuff. The fact that it exists is almost too much for me to comprhend. But you might want to point Glenn Beck or John Stossel in that direction.
petunia on September 17, 2009 at 11:57 AM
Actually, petunia, there should be an “and” in your statement…
ACORN is “accused of making profits off government…
notAND bringing sex slavery into our neighborhoods!”Just thought I’d add that.
UnderstandingisPower on September 17, 2009 at 11:58 AM
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