Too bad to check: Obama ready to cancel European missile defense shield?
posted at 8:54 pm on September 16, 2009 by Allahpundit
Just a rumor for now, but big enough to warrant a preemptive bloggy uproar in case the die has yet to be cast.
According to reliable sources, Obama administration officials are on their way to Poland and the Czech Republic to deliver very bad news. The administration intends to cancel completely the missile defense sites that had been promised to these governments by the previous administration. This represents a complete capitulation to Russia’s Vladimir Putin, who had demanded that the proposed deployments be halted as a price for improved relations. Ironically, the Obama administration, which is appeasing Russia in the hopes that Moscow will help put pressure on Iran, has made this mammoth concession just a few days after Moscow declared that it had no intention of supporting sanctions against Iran.
The consequences of this action in Eastern Europe, especially in Ukraine and in other countries that feel vulnerable to Russian power, will be disastrous. It is a major American retreat in the face of Russian bullying. And we will get absolutely nothing for it.
This comes five days after Russia reportedly told The One that he could forget about them agreeing to any new sanctions on Iran. Is that what we’re getting in return for kneecapping our eastern European allies — Russia’s agreement to a new round of economic penalties that won’t remotely convince Tehran to give up its nuke program? Or are we not getting even that? How about having Russia change its mind about creating the very same crisis in Venezuela that it’s helped to create in Iran? Do we get that at least? I can stomach, barely, the idea of selling out American allies if we’re getting something of overwhelming value to the United States in return, like Iranian disarmament. What are we getting here, aside from Vladimir Putin’s warm compliments? This is the same deal we made with Chavez on Honduras, i.e. abandoning an ally simply to prove to the cretins of the world that the Obama era will be different from the Bush one.
I hope it’s not true. Just like I hope it’s not true, as Newsweek is claiming, that U.S. intel still seriously believes Iran isn’t working on a bomb. European intelligence agencies have been laughing at that claim for years, from the British back in 2007 to Nicolas Sarkozy just this morning. In fact, as I’ve mentioned a bunch of times on HA previously, the very same NIE that claimed Iran had stopped its bomb program also claimed that it had 10-15 secret nuclear sites devoted to god knows what. The Newsweek piece smells like spin leaked by the administration to buy Obama some more time with the public for Iran negotiations, just like Israel’s threat of having to attack before December unless heavy sanctions are imposed is spin the other way. Exit question: If Iran’s such a serious threat, what’s The One doing taking Europe’s missile defense shield away?
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I think Israel-Iran is more likely than Israel-Egypt.
That doesn’t mean the Egyptians won’t try for the non-radioactive parts of Israel afterward.
Osama Obama’s “discussions” with our enemies are working really well, aren’t they?
I don’t think we can wait until 2012. There must be some in the Democrat Congress who don’t hate their country….
MrScribbler on September 16, 2009 at 9:36 PM
I would not want to be South Korean right now.
Chris_Balsz on September 16, 2009 at 9:37 PM
Add Russia – Georgia
Add China – Taiwan
Add ROK/Japan – DPRK
Add Colombia – Venezuela, Ecuador, Bolivia, Nicaragua
Add All of the above. (there is no stabilizing force on the scene anymore so all these regional tinderboxes can flare up at the same time. Think of it as score settling on a global scale.
elduende on September 16, 2009 at 9:38 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRGru2CPC4E
In his own words…
thomasaur on September 16, 2009 at 9:38 PM
We have a foreign policy?
CPT. Charles on September 16, 2009 at 9:38 PM
Could a weak President like Obama actually trigger a World War?
God, what a thought.
GunRunner on September 16, 2009 at 9:38 PM
I don’t think hiding under my desk, while the bomb goes off, will work anymore…
lovingmyUSA on September 16, 2009 at 9:38 PM
If Obama does this it will convince me that he is purposely trying to make America a weak country. Obama is punishing America because he can.
He wants to spend money to cripple our domestic energy supply. He wants to spend money to cripple our health care system. He investigates our intelligence community for doing their job and keeping him safe. And now he’s giving up any chance of a defense America and our allies might have in an early detection and destroy system.
This isn’t even an attack system, it is a defensive system.
Ladies and gentlemen, the President wants America to fail. The President wants America to cease being a super power. The President wants America to be a third world country.
Why?
I have no answer. But I will say this. . . he can.
Tell Michelle Obama that if he does this, for the first time in my life, I will be ashamed of being American.
ThackerAgency on September 16, 2009 at 9:38 PM
Not anymore brother. at least not an American one.
elduende on September 16, 2009 at 9:40 PM
He’s destroying the country from within and now he’s making it fatally vulnerable to its external enemies. Say goodbye to a once great Republic because it’s all but gone.
rplat on September 16, 2009 at 9:40 PM
Great–just great! *Where did I put that survivalist catalog?*
lovingmyUSA on September 16, 2009 at 9:40 PM
2nd
cmsinaz on September 16, 2009 at 9:40 PM
Actually I am more of a McDonnell Douglas, Skunk Works man myself.
F15Mech on September 16, 2009 at 9:41 PM
What’s the military have to say about this? Surely someone will tell him it’s a boneheaded move. Right?
scalleywag on September 16, 2009 at 9:41 PM
God help Czech Republic and Poland. America has a very dumb and dangerous, timid leader.
We need someone with the onions of Sarah Palin as leader.
cubachi on September 16, 2009 at 9:42 PM
Yes…where is Hillary? what did the new shiny red button she gave to russia say? Overcharged?
we are so screwed…say your prayers..
and where is michelle?
lukespapa on September 16, 2009 at 9:42 PM
Of course he can. Remember Neville Chamberlain?
atheling on September 16, 2009 at 9:43 PM
Depends where your desk is located.
Bishop on September 16, 2009 at 9:44 PM
“Four senior Obama officials, including Under Secretary of State for Arms Control Ellen Tauscher and Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security “Sandy” Vershbow, are apparently in the air right now on their way to Poland. Why? If the Washington hot rumor mill is right, to deliver the news to the Poles and then the Czechs that the administration has decided not to go forward with a missile defense system for Europe and the United States against the budding missile threat from Iran.
It looks like not only have we hit the reset button when it comes to Russia, but now with our friends in Central Europe—except this time, it’s a big fat “no thank you” for your willingness to stick your neck out to protect allies.”
lovingmyUSA on September 16, 2009 at 9:44 PM
Iran Missle strike on our unprotected European bases in 5….4….3….2….
UNREPENTANT CONSERVATIVE CAPITOLIST on September 16, 2009 at 9:44 PM
If Osama Obama gets all this done, there won’t be an America left for you to be ashamed of….
MrScribbler on September 16, 2009 at 9:45 PM
Na, they are well on their way to outpace the Carter administration’s example of a “total catastrophe” Obama is setting all kinds of new records in this category.
WhoU4 on September 16, 2009 at 9:45 PM
The good news is when we get nuked we’ll likely mutate into something really rad and wreak havoc on would-be invaders.
Either that or it will be the end of civilization, but I’m really hoping for some extra arms to combat the Jihad with.
blankminde on September 16, 2009 at 9:45 PM
LOL! It all sounds so melodramatic doesn’t it?
I always said that someday I wanted to write a novel but now I know that would have been a mistake, because I don’t think I could have come up with a plot as outrageous and surreal as the one we are living with right now.
elduende on September 16, 2009 at 9:45 PM
Good grief..I leave for a bit and come back to more bad news of Obummah. This isnt surprising to me…and I cant wait till he has talks with dinnerjacket. Hell..maybe he’ll give them the missile shield!
Time for a drink! ugh
becki51758 on September 16, 2009 at 9:46 PM
No doubt. I was just throwing it out there. As global stability deteriorates, there are lots of new and regenerated problems that are going to pop up. Egypt has been running a little proxy bit through the PA (I never understood why no one made a big deal about the Karin-A making its way up the Suez) but who knows what might happen as things really start to change.
Heh. I love graveyard humor. But true.
I don’t think we have until 2012, either. And if they pass anything, we’re definitely sunk. I’m still not sure if our monetary system makes it, regardless of whether legislation comes out of Washington or not, or whether the world can hold it together or whether the left pushes the US to race riots and the burning of the cities (which seems like a 35% bet to me). But I just don’t see many dems that I have confidence will do the right thing. They seem to be all-in with the left and The Precedent. I don’t think they have a way out.
progressoverpeace on September 16, 2009 at 9:46 PM
Countdown to Venezuelan Missile Crisis in 3 years…2 years…
SuperCool on September 16, 2009 at 9:47 PM
We really need to call our senators and reps tomorrow…we need to flood the DC operators…
lovingmyUSA on September 16, 2009 at 9:48 PM
Don’t forget that Sunni and Shia Muslims aren’t exactly best buds. I would suspect a ramping up of their hostilities towards each other as it becomes painfully clear what sort of President is in charge here in the US of A.
mjk on September 16, 2009 at 9:49 PM
I’m no military expert, but I really doubt there are that many people who have the respect and leadership needed to successfully call the Commander-in-Chief on the carpet, especially in a public manner.
Hopefully somebody (or several somebodies) are pulling him aside into a secret room somewhere and giving this clueless crackpot a scared-straight type of lecture on international security and such.
And if that isn’t happening or if he isn’t listening…may God have mercy on us because we are screwed.
Dark-Star on September 16, 2009 at 9:49 PM
Clinks glass–”to the late, great USA”
lovingmyUSA on September 16, 2009 at 9:50 PM
We chose to locate these missile defense bases in Europe not because we wanted to give our usually ungrateful allies yet another free ride, but because Iranian ICBMs bound for our eastern seaboard must overfly Europe.
Forward deploying BMD assets there would have given us a much, much earlier opportunity to take a shot. Otherwise we’re waiting to launch Alaskan interceptors at the last freaking minute & having them haul ass across CONUS to hopefully splash a threat missile.
European missile defense was always about protecting OUR largest cities. Protecting allies was gravy.
Obama has just made the United States less safe. Disgusting.
Cuffy Meigs on September 16, 2009 at 9:52 PM
Do you mean Colombia the country?
CCRWM on September 16, 2009 at 9:52 PM
Gee, you would think he was on their side or something…but thats just crazy…right?
javamartini on September 16, 2009 at 9:52 PM
Ummm, yeah, that too. *blushes*
ThePrez on September 16, 2009 at 9:55 PM
PrezBO is proving himself a mindless, amateur, idiot every day he is in office. He will surpass Jimmuh Cawter as the worst thing that ever happened to the Republic in the last couple hundred years.
We should have advertised in Monster.com last November….
ultracon on September 16, 2009 at 9:55 PM
Why sure. Apologize to, and embrace enemies, screw allies. When that fails, apologize to former allies.
ICBM on September 16, 2009 at 9:56 PM
Hum…maybe there is something to the 2012 end of the world stuff…just saying…
CCRWM on September 16, 2009 at 9:57 PM
The really awesome part about those missile defense assets is that if they’re closer to the launching point of the ICBM there is a decent chance we can bring their launch down before it leaves their own borders. A taste of their own atomic medicine. I’m still holding out hope that Cheney built the Xylophone when no one was looking…
blankminde on September 16, 2009 at 9:57 PM
He’s not scrapping the project, just revamping it to fit the new Hopey-Changey world we live in. To wit:
Land based ground to air missile batteries will be replaced with high intensity, less-than-lethal, multi-colored spotlights. The lights – known operationally as ‘Rainbow Warriors’ – will project the Obama campaign logo around incoming missiles making them easier for the flying unicorns (still under development) to spot.
The flying unicorns will be specially trained to whinny a message of peace and love which will persuade the missiles to realize and embrace their inner goodness. This will turn inbound missiles into large marshmallows which will fall harmlessly to the ground and provide food to starving orphans.
The new operation is codenamed Winged Victory.
Onus on September 16, 2009 at 9:57 PM
I saw this rumour and I am ignoring this for now because I am appalled at what could happen next. This is bad.
petunia on September 16, 2009 at 9:58 PM
Where’s Hillary? It’s 3:00AM, and Poland has been invaded…
lovingmyUSA on September 16, 2009 at 9:58 PM
Alaska-Canada. With Canada selling Alaska to Russia. With O saying take that Sarah./sarc maybe not.
Clyde5445 on September 16, 2009 at 9:59 PM
Trying to make me feel better?
lovingmyUSA on September 16, 2009 at 9:59 PM
Actually guys this is what is…maybe …I hope ; )
jerrytbg on September 16, 2009 at 10:00 PM
LOL. That was great.
elduende on September 16, 2009 at 10:00 PM
These retread radicals are making Jimmy C look good.
flyoverboy on September 16, 2009 at 10:01 PM
Finally something involving rainbows, unicorns, and marshmallows that I can really get behind.
blankminde on September 16, 2009 at 10:01 PM
As someone who was stationed in Europe for several years during the Cold War, this makes me literally want to throw up. We invested so much time, effort and cash to the security of Europe – and to kill off the Soviet block and watch the Berlin Wall fall. And now this? It’s an absolute total disgrace. Barack Obama will be a one term president for this move alone.
Hey Mr. VP? Hey Joe? Mr. Foreign Relations? Care to comment el douche’?
JeffinOrlando on September 16, 2009 at 10:03 PM
I guess Isreal will be truly alone now.
Dire Straits on September 16, 2009 at 10:04 PM
D) Boston-New York
PackerBronco on September 16, 2009 at 10:05 PM
Got to be….. please God.
JeffinOrlando on September 16, 2009 at 10:05 PM
A Strong Hugo, backed by U.S. weapons would not stop at Honduras. He would go for Brazil. With Control of more Oil than the Saudis and Oil prices at a high due to war, Hugo would be the Energy King. A Petty King in an Energy Kingdom.
GunRunner on September 16, 2009 at 10:05 PM
Sorry my bad.
Dire Straits on September 16, 2009 at 10:06 PM
Obama wants to save the $$$ for his domestic agenda.
He’s tired of us being the world’s protectors…and will put our allies under that famous bus because defending them, even with just a missle shield, just costs too much.
Treaties and relationships mean nothing when compared to his own agenda. Our allies are on their own…Obama’s busy playing golf, eating wagyu beef, and redistrubuting wealth.
marybel on September 16, 2009 at 10:07 PM
Do you think Obama sided with Zelaya when the military of Honduras took Zelaya out because he doesn’t want us to get any ideas? Because I’m all down for a military coup against this adminstration and the sooner the better…tomorrow?
CCRWM on September 16, 2009 at 10:08 PM
Poland, unless they saw Animal House. As in, “You (Effed) up, man – you trusted us!”
If he did, it’s in the hands of The Champ now…
Blacksmith on September 16, 2009 at 10:09 PM
While still in the early testing phase, the new Platitudes Missle Defense System is thought to provide a more flexible and sustainable defense shield.
R Square on September 16, 2009 at 10:09 PM
Obama said the world would look at us differently if we elected him…
lovingmyUSA on September 16, 2009 at 10:09 PM
What does that mean? Is it better?
CCRWM on September 16, 2009 at 10:11 PM
Come on, he has to find SOMETHING outrageous enough to draw attention away from health care and ACORN. End of the world stuff is pretty outrageous, right?
Daggett on September 16, 2009 at 10:12 PM
Hope they’ve got generous ROE for unannounced launches then – when seconds count, a decision from the NCA is just days away…
Blacksmith on September 16, 2009 at 10:14 PM
Na, It’s par for the course.
Clyde5445 on September 16, 2009 at 10:15 PM
Yeah, assuming they’re allowed to shoot. SM3 is a more-proven system and if it’s sited closer there’s less likelihood of a miss (rockets up are slower than warheads down). If, as I said above, the ROE let the shield actually work…
Blacksmith on September 16, 2009 at 10:16 PM
The democrats have always been against deploying missile defense systems. This is not too surprising to me. It’s too “provocative” for them.
chris999 on September 16, 2009 at 10:17 PM
Great Atlas Shrugged allusion, fella.
Ladies and gentlemen, we have a traitor at the helm.
BTW Hillary was last seen in Vienna, preaching about human trafficking. I kid you not.
onlineanalyst on September 16, 2009 at 10:17 PM
YURI BEZMENOV
As an Eastern European that has lived in one of the most horifying communist regimes in the world, The Socialist Republic of Romania, I think that what this guy says should be thaught in school. He was an ex-soviet officer of propaganda, he know how these things work and he has predicted the Obama presidency 25 years ago.
This guy explains crystal clear what is happening in contemporary USA
costin on September 16, 2009 at 10:19 PM
I just called my ex, who is a democrap, and told him about this. He says “So, what has that got to do with us (USA)?” Reason #3 why he’s my ex…
lovingmyUSA on September 16, 2009 at 10:22 PM
Isn’t his policy and striving to build allies. Who would this help? Putin will wee wee all over him. This president-in-training is out of his neighborhood.
PaCadle on September 16, 2009 at 10:24 PM
Next up to be killed: US nucs in Europe when the non-proliferation treaty comes up for renewal next year. This will shatter NATO and our ties to Europe, leaving
FranceRussia in charge.rotorhead on September 16, 2009 at 10:26 PM
Complete disaster.
CP on September 16, 2009 at 10:28 PM
LOL! Speaking of platitudes, I found this little gem:
atheling on September 16, 2009 at 10:30 PM
OT:
Greta just did a great story on Honduras, explaining (for the most part) what happened and how The Precedent and Shrillary are on the wrong side. First time I’ve seen anything like this on TV (outside of blogs, really). It was a good piece. She even pointed out Article 239 of the Honduran Constitution. elduende, they’re finally hearing the story, and it might get more press with the coming UN meeting.
Okay, back to The Precedent and Shrillary taking the wrong side of everything in Europe …
progressoverpeace on September 16, 2009 at 10:44 PM
I saw it PoP! That was great! Lets hope we can keep the issue on the front burner during the NYC meetings. How much you wanna bet Hilary gave her blessings for this interview? Greta and her are buds you know. I keep getting the sense Hilary is trying to distance herself from Barry at least on this issue.
elduende on September 16, 2009 at 10:51 PM
Makes sense to me
Keep the nukes in Iran
Kiss the hand of the Saudi potentate
Remove the defense shield from Europe
And give a tyrant a hug, Chavez, Castro, FALN whatever
All in a days work. By ratcheting down military stuff, there are more planes to fly over NYC for fun times.
I just heard Obama say the reason he increased troops in Afghanistan was the Afghan election. Now he has to re evaluate.
That was fast thinking on his part. He could have said ‘global warming’ but he tied it into important nation stuff.
entagor on September 16, 2009 at 10:53 PM
No doubt this will be revealed officially Sunday night AFTER Mr. Overexposed goes on all the network chat shows. Then he’ll go off and make another 75 speeches on health care.
rockmom on September 16, 2009 at 10:54 PM
I can’t believe America voted in this guy.
Will Obama throw Australia under the bus as well?
Can something be done before 2012 to stop this idiot?
Crux Australis on September 16, 2009 at 10:55 PM
Our Aussie cousins know the deal. Why do you think you blokes are increasing your defense spending so dramatically? Nature abhors a vacuum and we’re leaving a huge one.
elduende on September 16, 2009 at 10:57 PM
If Obama gets 8 years the US is through!
If an Aussie can see that why can’t America?
WAKE UP AMERICA!
Crux Australis on September 16, 2009 at 11:04 PM
I hadn’t known that Zelaya’s UN rep was a bomber from the 80′s. I have to check this out. Micheletti was excellent. I liked the way he explained how Zelaya changed by, “surrounding himself with people from the left” [very rough paraphrase from memory]. There should be some interest among Beck and Hannity about the UN meeting. It’s such a great story. “Terrorist given visa and seat at UN, representing Zelaya’s attempted coup in process, in lieu of the legitimate government’s representative …” Let’s hope.
I hadn’t thought about that. If she did, it would be the first smart thing she’s ever done.
I didn’t know they were friends. Greta should have tried to help her out earlier, as Shrillary’s been making a mockery out of the Sec State position, which is pretty tough, given the many incredible incompetents and morons that have occupied that position. Shrillary ought to run away. She made a huge mistake ever taking the position. There was nothing to be gained. She could have been running a gang in the Senate – real power – but instead she’s trotting around the world, farting at all the dinners. Not intentionally. She just can’t seem to help herself.
Anyway, we’ll see what comes of this. People should see the parallel between Honduras and us.
*fingers crossed*
progressoverpeace on September 16, 2009 at 11:14 PM
Isn’t it the price to get pizza and kissed korans delivered to the Afghan landfill by way of Russia?
BL@KBIRD on September 16, 2009 at 11:15 PM
Anonymous sources indicate that the strategy is to ground base SM-3 closer to prospective European targets and perhaps cancel the more forward GMD/EKV sites and radar. The SM-3 is also exoatmospheric intercept, but with significantly less range than the GMD/EKV, less umbrella per site.
Missile Defense systems are supposed to be layered. With the cancelation of KEI (boost phase intercept and rain debris near the launch site) and perhaps GMD/EKV for Europe, we’re losing layers and will be less safe.
Then again, the easiest way to mail a nuke to the USA would be in the hold of a ship.
exdeadhead on September 16, 2009 at 11:19 PM
Poland is the least surprised by this. They suspected that was the reason Obama wouldn’t send anybody for 70th anniversary of the start of WWII on September 1st. What is surprising is that he is fully expecting Poland to increase the troops numbers in Afghanistan. I would say: GOOD LUCK WITH THAT, OBAMA!!!
ktrelski on September 16, 2009 at 11:23 PM
Use an air wrench?
Sorry, that’s all I’ve got.
lacerta on September 16, 2009 at 11:26 PM
And you wondered where BO was going to get the funding for his nationalist health care plan?
chickasaw42 on September 16, 2009 at 11:30 PM
Putin Obama in his place, it seems.
keep the change on September 16, 2009 at 11:30 PM
Actually I didn’t know it either until tonite. Although it makes sense. There’s a bit of a Honduran diplomatic civil war going on now and the Honduran embassy in DC, to name one, has been purged by Zelaya with State Department connivance and filled with hard left sycophants that aren’t even diplomats.
Greta’s husband is John Caole who was a big Democrat operative/fundraiser/donor dedicated to the Clintons. Once Obama stole the nomination they flipped to Palin.
Don’t get me wrong I can’t stand hilary but no one is going to tell me we wouldn’t have been even moderately better off is she was the POTUS now.
Lets see what happens, too bad this Honduras thing is being ignored because under normal circumstances it is a huge scandal, imagine the US siding with Chavez against a democracy? If we had a real media they would have hung this albatross around Obama’s neck last June.
elduende on September 16, 2009 at 11:39 PM
Whoops! PoP the response above is for you.
elduende on September 16, 2009 at 11:40 PM
We’d have been much better off if Biden had been POTUS. It’s that bad.
progressoverpeace on September 16, 2009 at 11:48 PM
Hah. I would even take Carter at this point.
elduende on September 16, 2009 at 11:51 PM
LOL. You win.
progressoverpeace on September 16, 2009 at 11:52 PM
This should raise the popularity of Obama/America in the eyes of Europeans. For some strange reason they like us better when they are defenseless against Moscow.
Weird.
Dr. ZhivBlago on September 17, 2009 at 12:04 AM
Don’t worry Allahpundit you can sleep tight tonight.
BDU-33 on September 17, 2009 at 12:21 AM
How do you say: “Where’s the Geiger Counter? ” in Hebrew?
profitsbeard on September 17, 2009 at 12:34 AM
I agree. She’s not as scary as Obama. I guess it’s a case of the devil you know over the devil you don’t.
Was that racist?
atheling on September 17, 2009 at 12:40 AM
Looks like it is the real deal:
AP sources: US to reveal Euro missile defense plan
Shameful.
Just, shameful.
juanito on September 17, 2009 at 12:47 AM
Someone mentioned Ukraine earlier.
Indeed, that is what some fear – an invasion by Russia. There are many Russians living in Ukraine, and there have been reports of Russian passports being given to citizens there.
Add that to the fact that Yuschenko and Timoshenko have squandered the “Orange Revolution” from a couple years ago – the gov’t leadership is ineffective, in a constant state of disarray, bickering politicians, etc.
Because of the chaos, it could happen.
Then what? What will the Poles do?
Perhaps NATO should have fast-tracked Ukraine’s membership? Even then, what would NATO do in the event of an invasion?
Everybody would cry to the U.S. to “do something…”
…sigh…
Tak_Bulgogi on September 17, 2009 at 12:48 AM
Oh and while your sleeping tonight just remember you only have 33 minutes
BDU-33 on September 17, 2009 at 1:09 AM
BDU-33 on September 17, 2009 at 1:19 AM
Please. I hope this is exaggerated surprise. This cancellation was a given from November 6th on. Of course he’s going to cancel the dam shield. Are you people sleep walking or what? You folks really got to wake the he11 up if this is surprising to you. There’s going to be much, much worse policy change than this. Wait ’til the SOB realizes he’s not going to get re-elected.
Griz on September 17, 2009 at 1:21 AM
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