Too bad to check: Obama ready to cancel European missile defense shield?

posted at 8:54 pm on September 16, 2009 by Allahpundit

Just a rumor for now, but big enough to warrant a preemptive bloggy uproar in case the die has yet to be cast.

According to reliable sources, Obama administration officials are on their way to Poland and the Czech Republic to deliver very bad news. The administration intends to cancel completely the missile defense sites that had been promised to these governments by the previous administration. This represents a complete capitulation to Russia’s Vladimir Putin, who had demanded that the proposed deployments be halted as a price for improved relations. Ironically, the Obama administration, which is appeasing Russia in the hopes that Moscow will help put pressure on Iran, has made this mammoth concession just a few days after Moscow declared that it had no intention of supporting sanctions against Iran.

The consequences of this action in Eastern Europe, especially in Ukraine and in other countries that feel vulnerable to Russian power, will be disastrous. It is a major American retreat in the face of Russian bullying. And we will get absolutely nothing for it.

This comes five days after Russia reportedly told The One that he could forget about them agreeing to any new sanctions on Iran. Is that what we’re getting in return for kneecapping our eastern European allies — Russia’s agreement to a new round of economic penalties that won’t remotely convince Tehran to give up its nuke program? Or are we not getting even that? How about having Russia change its mind about creating the very same crisis in Venezuela that it’s helped to create in Iran? Do we get that at least? I can stomach, barely, the idea of selling out American allies if we’re getting something of overwhelming value to the United States in return, like Iranian disarmament. What are we getting here, aside from Vladimir Putin’s warm compliments? This is the same deal we made with Chavez on Honduras, i.e. abandoning an ally simply to prove to the cretins of the world that the Obama era will be different from the Bush one.

I hope it’s not true. Just like I hope it’s not true, as Newsweek is claiming, that U.S. intel still seriously believes Iran isn’t working on a bomb. European intelligence agencies have been laughing at that claim for years, from the British back in 2007 to Nicolas Sarkozy just this morning. In fact, as I’ve mentioned a bunch of times on HA previously, the very same NIE that claimed Iran had stopped its bomb program also claimed that it had 10-15 secret nuclear sites devoted to god knows what. The Newsweek piece smells like spin leaked by the administration to buy Obama some more time with the public for Iran negotiations, just like Israel’s threat of having to attack before December unless heavy sanctions are imposed is spin the other way. Exit question: If Iran’s such a serious threat, what’s The One doing taking Europe’s missile defense shield away?

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Missile shields are racist.

LibertyBoyNYC on September 16, 2009 at 8:56 PM

They’re America’s allies. Not his?

p0s3r on September 16, 2009 at 8:57 PM

Seems Carter has influence in other areas than Palestine.

Limerick on September 16, 2009 at 8:58 PM

Obama hates polls

faraway on September 16, 2009 at 9:00 PM

Smart Power.

Lance Murdock on September 16, 2009 at 9:00 PM

For the remainder of this administration we are going to betray our friends and reward our enemies.

This really isn’t like any other Democrat administration we’ve seen before.

myrenovations on September 16, 2009 at 9:00 PM

Elections have consequences….I believe I remember McCain saying something like that last year…

tatersalad on September 16, 2009 at 9:00 PM

Obama will bury us

Green Muse on September 16, 2009 at 9:01 PM

And Israel is suppose to believe that they would be safe under an American umbrella. HA!

I think we should start a pool on when Israel attacks Iran. I say Dec. 27.

Lance Murdock on September 16, 2009 at 9:01 PM

Hannity has the new ACORN video….

milwife88 on September 16, 2009 at 9:01 PM

“Shut up!! Obama explained.

Guardian on September 16, 2009 at 9:02 PM

To toss it away and not even get anything in return from Moscow is just….unbelievable.

Beyond stupid.

SteveMG on September 16, 2009 at 9:02 PM

Angry. Just…frick.

Weight of Glory on September 16, 2009 at 9:02 PM

Well that’s a big “Screw You!” to Eastern Europe…

Stiil too soon to call this Presidency a total catastrophe?

SuperCool on September 16, 2009 at 9:03 PM

“Let me be clear: The time has come to throw away any credibility that we have with our allies.”

Red Cloud on September 16, 2009 at 9:03 PM

The situation in eastern Europe is already unstable and volatile after the war in Georgia last summer. If this happens it will give Putin the confidence to go after Ukraine. A major war in Ukraine could mean millions of lives lost and it will cost the world economy including the US dearly.

kittysaidwoof on September 16, 2009 at 9:05 PM

Latest from RS McCain:

Charles Johnson’s gutless passive-aggressive act — outrageously libeling me, trying to prevent me from reporting on the 9/12 March on DC, and then falsely claiming that I am attacking him — has been permitted to continue too long. Honest people are now compelled by simple decency to denounce him as the craven, sadistic liar he is.

This is not about a flame war between blogs or a matter of a political disagreement. As McCain has thoroughly documented, whether to link to Johnson or not is a moral issue. Hot Air, please get on the right side of it.

Kalapana on September 16, 2009 at 9:05 PM

Gotta pay for ObamaCare somehow…!

Seven Percent Solution on September 16, 2009 at 9:05 PM

Putin will swallow up Georgia before the year is out. Then makes a move on Ukraine.

I miss Reagan.

ThePrez on September 16, 2009 at 9:06 PM

Oops, first para of message @9:05PM McCain, second para yours truly.

Kalapana on September 16, 2009 at 9:06 PM

Strong horse out, donkey in.

The message has been sent: America is the world’s new doormat.

Bishop on September 16, 2009 at 9:07 PM

Impeach Osama Obama, before it’s too late for our nation and our allies.

We don’t need an America-hater in the White House.

MrScribbler on September 16, 2009 at 9:07 PM

Obama hates polls

faraway on September 16, 2009 at 9:00 PM

and Italians, Germans, Irish, English, French, etc., etc.

clinker46 on September 16, 2009 at 9:08 PM

Elections have consequences….I believe I remember McCain saying something like that last year…

tatersalad on September 16, 2009 at 9:00 PM

Yeah, thank God we didn`t get the horrible RINO in the White House.

ThePrez on September 16, 2009 at 9:08 PM

This comes five days after Russia reportedly told The One that he could forget about them agreeing to any new sanctions on Iran. Is that what we’re getting in return for kneecapping our eastern European allies — Russia’s agreement to a new round of economic penalties that won’t remotely convince Tehran to give up its nuke program? Or are we not getting even that?

Russia has always been a stumbling block for economic sanctions against Iran. They could not be counted on in the past, they cannot be counted on now. If this was any basis, Obama has royally screwed the pooch.

ICBM on September 16, 2009 at 9:09 PM

Payback for 1989.

Ted Torgerson on September 16, 2009 at 9:09 PM

Elections have consequences….I believe I remember McCain saying something like that last year…

tatersalad on September 16, 2009 at 9:00 PM

I remember McCain saying we had nothing to fear from an Obama presidency.

myrenovations on September 16, 2009 at 9:09 PM

We all knew this long ago. The Precedent hates the West. HATES.

progressoverpeace on September 16, 2009 at 9:10 PM

I’m not surprised. Why wouldn’t a Marxist be a friend of Russia? If a real president did this, then it would be puzzling at the least. For obama to do this, makes perfect sense.

I refer you back to the anti-Christ thread.

keep the change on September 16, 2009 at 9:10 PM

If this is true, Obama is worse than Carter. In fact, he’ll be a scumlicking jackass.

Emily M. on September 16, 2009 at 9:11 PM

Barrack Hussein Chamberlain?????

doriangrey on September 16, 2009 at 9:11 PM

…slowly chipping away at America one little piece at a time.

Alden Pyle on September 16, 2009 at 9:12 PM

It’s 20 years ago , the fall of the Iron curtain.

Cant go unpunished.

the_nile on September 16, 2009 at 9:12 PM

Sorry, Poland. Thanks for the help and support in the past, but we really don’t need you now. Good Luck!

Peace,
Obama

DrStock on September 16, 2009 at 9:12 PM

Missile shields are racist.
LibertyBoyNYC on September 16, 2009 at 8:56 PM

They’re America’s allies. Not his?
p0s3r on September 16, 2009 at 8:57 PM

Not even gonna TRY topping these. Exactamundo!!!

Mike D. on September 16, 2009 at 9:12 PM

Obama hates polls

faraway on September 16, 2009 at 9:00 PM

and Italians, Germans, Irish, English, French, etc., etc.

clinker46 on September 16, 2009 at 9:08 PM

You needed to start with Americans. He hates you and I most of all.

sammypants on September 16, 2009 at 9:12 PM

McCain may be king of the RINO’s but he would have been light years better than this disaster.

He’s not going to be happy until a country gets invaded or people die from a bomb.

All in the name of socialized medicine

gophergirl on September 16, 2009 at 9:12 PM

APPARENTLY DECIDED DAYS AFTER OUTIN ANNOUNCED A BIG ARMS DEAL WITH CHAVEZ.

UNBE EFFIN LIEVABLE.

IF OBAMA WAS REALLY A CRYPTO-MUSLIM WORKING ON BEHALF OF THE WEST’S ENEMIES, WOULD HE BE DOING ANYTHING DIFFERENTLY?

NOPE.

reliapundit on September 16, 2009 at 9:13 PM

PUTIN NOT OUTIN

reliapundit on September 16, 2009 at 9:13 PM

This is how you turn allies into enemies.

This is how you make foreign populations hate us.

This is how you embolden enemies.

(Things I’ve learned from the schoolyard and playing strategy boardgames. They just seem so ‘common sense’ to me.)

I just want one thing from our government to make sense.

ConDem on September 16, 2009 at 9:13 PM

“We, as a nation, must not stand [turns, lifts nose] for the kind of brinkmanship that took us [drops pants] to the very edge of Armageddon [grabs ankles]“

LibertyBoyNYC on September 16, 2009 at 9:13 PM

Hey Israel, take note.

Bishop on September 16, 2009 at 9:13 PM

The Evil Empire gets a fresh start.

Fletch54 on September 16, 2009 at 9:14 PM

Terrific.

I’d send letters to the governments of Israel, Poland, etc., warning them that they cannot depend on us for any help for the next 4 years at least…but if they haven’t realized that already, nothing will convince them until the barbarians are pouring over the walls.

Dark-Star on September 16, 2009 at 9:14 PM

Missile shields are racist.

LibertyBoyNYC on September 16, 2009 at 8:56 PM

I think you mean, Missile shields shield racists.

TheBigOldDog on September 16, 2009 at 9:14 PM

reliapundit on September 16, 2009 at 9:13 PM

Take Putin outin!

LibertyBoyNYC on September 16, 2009 at 9:14 PM

I think we all saw this one coming. Obama is very predictable.

SoulGlo on September 16, 2009 at 9:15 PM

Remember how the World embraced Obama in his campaign, contributed on-line to the tune of Millions, all the love and hype in European papers, his speech in Germany, the new Citizen of the World, with no vetting from the press…

… well, enjoy it!

Seven Percent Solution on September 16, 2009 at 9:15 PM

Putin: “Give me Poland or I tell your locals to spray some subways”

/

faraway on September 16, 2009 at 9:16 PM

I think we need to start a betting pool on where World War III will begin. The top three choices:

A) Russia-Ukraine
B) Israel-Iran
C) India-Pakistan

Anybody want to add some to the list?

joe_doufu on September 16, 2009 at 9:17 PM

Exit question: If Iran’s such a serious threat, what’s The One doing taking Europe’s missile defense shield away?

Because he has NO understanding of geo-politics…
A 12 year old playing Risk has more…

jerrytbg on September 16, 2009 at 9:17 PM

Seven Percent Solution on September 16, 2009 at 9:15 PM

I can imagine all of Europe with their mouth opens in disbelief.

“WTF?!”

ThePrez on September 16, 2009 at 9:18 PM

unstinkingbelievable if true…but wouldn’t be surprising with this appeaser-in-chief
that hope and change is going to kick us in the a** big time….

cmsinaz on September 16, 2009 at 9:18 PM

Exit question: If Iran’s such a serious threat, what’s The One doing taking Europe’s missile defense shield away?

Because he hates The West, as I’ve tried to explain to you over and over again.

progressoverpeace on September 16, 2009 at 9:19 PM

O/T

Hannah is propositioned and an ACORN worker offers to help smuggled girls across the border on the newest tape just shown on Hannity.

haikusrock on September 16, 2009 at 9:20 PM

I prefer the original Manchurian Candidate, myself.

Asher on September 16, 2009 at 9:20 PM

joe_doufu on September 16, 2009 at 9:17 PM

Venezuela v.s Columbia?

ThePrez on September 16, 2009 at 9:20 PM

*smuggle

haikusrock on September 16, 2009 at 9:20 PM

2012 cannot come fast enough. This is a nightmare.

Philly on September 16, 2009 at 9:20 PM

PANAMA!

LibertyBoyNYC on September 16, 2009 at 9:21 PM

PANAMA!

LibertyBoyNYC on September 16, 2009 at 9:21 PM

Still confused on the lyrics, is it “what`s thaaaaat chompin` sound?” j/k

ThePrez on September 16, 2009 at 9:23 PM

No surprise. Putin will love it, the Eastern Europeans looking west will be diminished, Chavez will get missiles from Iran knowing we have stopped working on any defense…what is not to like?

Harry Schell on September 16, 2009 at 9:23 PM

ThePrez on September 16, 2009 at 9:23 PM

Air guitar is racist.

LibertyBoyNYC on September 16, 2009 at 9:24 PM

and Italians, Germans, Irish, English, French, etc., etc.

clinker46 on September 16, 2009 at 9:08 PM

Pretty much all white people.

atheling on September 16, 2009 at 9:24 PM

As the numbers plunge, need new distraction.

If Congress doesn’t care, why do I care.

tarpon on September 16, 2009 at 9:25 PM

joe_doufu on September 16, 2009 at 9:17 PM

Just as possibilities:

North Korea-Japan
North Korea-South Korea
Iran-Saudi Arabia
General arab insanity (all over the arab world, no particular conflict)
General muslim terror (takeover of Pakistan/hits in Europe, …)
Turkey-Iraq
Egypt/Syria-Israel

It’s all kind of open, since the big players are still looking for what they want to grab as US global influence wanes. It could even be internal problems that spill over, liuke the US coming apart or Europe disintegrating due to social problems …

But, as the next monetary crisis comes (and it will), that will probably help to light the fuse.

progressoverpeace on September 16, 2009 at 9:26 PM

ThePrez on September 16, 2009 at 9:23 PM

Air guitar is racist.

LibertyBoyNYC on September 16, 2009 at 9:24 PM

If Maxine Waters wants my air guitar, she`ll have to pry it from my……How do you pry out someone`s air guitar?

ThePrez on September 16, 2009 at 9:26 PM

“Where’s Hillary?”

“Who’s Hillary?”

Skandia Recluse on September 16, 2009 at 9:27 PM

Exit question: If Iran’s such a serious threat, what’s The One doing taking Europe’s missile defense shield away?

That is now a racist question.

Look this is a combination of an historic earth shattering level of incompetence driven by the blind arrogance and sanctimony of anti A,erican Marxist ideology.

American foreign policy has collapsed. THIS IS BAD. We are in trouble. Big trouble.

elduende on September 16, 2009 at 9:27 PM

Yep, too bad to check. But it wouldn’t surprise in the least.

petefrt on September 16, 2009 at 9:27 PM

Let’s wait for confirmation. If confirmed, this is beyond the pale and the gloves come off at home. As one whom had relatives living in the Czech Republic and friends in Poland and Ukraine this will tear it for me…permanently.

Mason on September 16, 2009 at 9:28 PM

He said he was going to do it, who’s really surprised?

thomasaur on September 16, 2009 at 9:28 PM

joe_doufu on September 16, 2009 at 9:17 PM

Add China-Taiwan, with a side trip to the Spratley Islands to grab the oil.

ZenDraken on September 16, 2009 at 9:28 PM

anti A,erican Marxist ideology

should read

anti American Marxist ideology.

elduende on September 16, 2009 at 9:28 PM

ThePrez on September 16, 2009 at 9:26 PM

Air legislation.

LibertyBoyNYC on September 16, 2009 at 9:29 PM

Skandia Recluse on September 16, 2009 at 9:27 PM

Try hitting the “Reset” button again there, Hill.

ThePrez on September 16, 2009 at 9:29 PM

I can imagine all of Europe with their mouth opens in disbelief.

“WTF?!”

ThePrez on September 16, 2009 at 9:18 PM

Yea…

… and in response,

“How’s that ‘Bush/Hitler’ meme working out for you?”, jack-a%s!

Seven Percent Solution on September 16, 2009 at 9:31 PM

Well, it looks like the west will sell out Poland and the Czechs the same way it did in the 1930′s.. to a tyrant bent on occupying and subverting them.

We have Obama now starring as Neville Chamberlain.

Time to find a way to impeach him before we lose ALL of Europe.

Obama is indeed a clear and present danger to our nation and our Constitution.

AW1 Tim on September 16, 2009 at 9:31 PM

*click……click-click………click-click-click-click-click-click*

DAMN, RESET BUTTON ISN`T WORKING!

ThePrez on September 16, 2009 at 9:31 PM

Obama is demoralization to our allies and aid and comfort to our enemies.

He’s JimmahCatah on steroids.

wildcat84 on September 16, 2009 at 9:32 PM

I think we need to start a betting pool on where World War III will begin. The top three choices:

A) Russia-Ukraine
B) Israel-Iran
C) India-Pakistan

Anybody want to add some to the list?

joe_doufu on September 16, 2009 at 9:17 PM

Ok, now I’m getting out the whiskey!

lovingmyUSA on September 16, 2009 at 9:32 PM

I understood that as part of the deal with Russia the “Victims of Communism” statue in D.C. will also be removed, so as to not offend sensibilities.

At least, that’s what I heard…

Horatius on September 16, 2009 at 9:32 PM

Hannah is propositioned and an ACORN worker offers to help smuggled girls across the border on the newest tape just shown on Hannity.

haikusrock on September 16, 2009 at 9:20 PM

Hey, they were just playing along because they were scared for their lives by the white Ho and Cracker Huggy Bear you racists, Fox New Lovin’, Right Wing Extremist rumor monger you!

TheBigOldDog on September 16, 2009 at 9:32 PM

Seven Percent Solution on September 16, 2009 at 9:05 PM

Think of all wonderful things [and votes] those billions will buy.

The Eastern Europeans? They rejected the ‘Workers Paradise’.

Teh One’s giving them ‘#1 & 2′. And Putin will wipe his a$$ [in the spirit of 'solidarity'.]

Carter’s ‘worst ever’ just got left in the dust.

CPT. Charles on September 16, 2009 at 9:33 PM

What took him so long?

Browncoatone on September 16, 2009 at 9:33 PM

Maybe oboobi can assign Hillary as a permanent in Europe holding a re set button.

SHARPTOOTH on September 16, 2009 at 9:33 PM

Yawn

Is anyone really surprised by this?

Next comment will be “who knew Obama is a African American”

Followed by a post calling me a racist.

F15Mech on September 16, 2009 at 9:34 PM

ThePrez on September 16, 2009 at 9:31 PM

LOLOLOL

cmsinaz on September 16, 2009 at 9:34 PM

Hillary’s busy balancing the Russian threat with Chinese partnershi- oh, nevermind.

LibertyBoyNYC on September 16, 2009 at 9:34 PM

We don’t need an America-hater in the White House.

MrScribbler on September 16, 2009 at 9:07 PM

Unfortunately, under the current Presidential Order of Succession, you’ve got to go pretty far down the list before you get away from America-haters.

johnny alpha on September 16, 2009 at 9:35 PM

Calling Hillary.

faraway on September 16, 2009 at 9:35 PM

oe_doufu on September 16, 2009 at 9:17 PM

1982(?): Dr Falken, we have recalculated the election results, MAC won, now How About a Nice Game of Chess?

ginaswo on September 16, 2009 at 9:35 PM

LOL is racist.

LibertyBoyNYC on September 16, 2009 at 9:35 PM

ThePrez on September 16, 2009 at 9:31 PM

LOLOLOL

cmsinaz on September 16, 2009 at 9:34 PM

I hereby submit myself for QOTD!

ThePrez on September 16, 2009 at 9:35 PM

If a real president did this, then it would be puzzling at the least. For obama to do this, makes perfect sense.

Perfectly succinct.

It’s been stated many other places but I agree……..Obama doesn’t disappoint me at all because he’s exactly why I expected-DISGUSTING

JoeinTX on September 16, 2009 at 9:36 PM

Wow. He’s playing a high stakes game here, with some pretty crafty players. I wish I could see how this is a win for us.

scalleywag on September 16, 2009 at 9:36 PM

progressoverpeace on September 16, 2009 at 9:26 PM

joe_doufu on September 16, 2009 at 9:17 PM

Add China-Taiwan, with a side trip to the Spratley Islands to grab the oil.

ZenDraken on September 16, 2009 at 9:28 PM

*Eyes whiskey bottle, wondering if there is enough for present state of mind…*

lovingmyUSA on September 16, 2009 at 9:36 PM

Hey, they were just playing along because they were scared for their lives by the white Ho and Cracker Huggy Bear you racists, Fox New Lovin’, Right Wing Extremist rumor monger you!

TheBigOldDog on September 16, 2009 at 9:32 PM

Hannah’s about the least threatening looking person ever.

wildcat84 on September 16, 2009 at 9:36 PM

Yawn

Is anyone really surprised by this?

F15Mech on September 16, 2009 at 9:34 PM

Raytheon?

TheBigOldDog on September 16, 2009 at 9:36 PM

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