Good news: Eight percent of New Jersey residents think Obama’s the Antichrist

posted at 4:40 pm on September 16, 2009 by Allahpundit

Forgive a nonbeliever his ignorance, but isn’t the Antichrist supposed to have more sinister priorities than, um, running up deficits? The seventh seal shatters, the trumpet sounds, and the beast emergeth … to pass a stimulus bill?

If it’s eight percent in Jersey, what must it be in more conservative, religious states? Fifteen?

Those are the only numbers you’ll see touted on MSNBC tonight, I assure you, but dig deeper in the crosstabs and you’ll find plenty of nuance. If the Antichrist nuttiness is yet another twisted manifestation of white racism towards Obama — which is surely how it’ll be spun — what are we to make of the breakdown by race?

The results of the birth certificate question are also interesting. Overall numbers on whether Obama was born in the U.S…

…and the numbers by race:

No statistical difference between whites and Hispanics. As for Truthers, yes, they polled that too. Overall numbers on the question of whether Bush had “advance knowledge” of 9/11 — which, alas, is ambiguously worded, since it could be understood as asking merely whether the U.S. had any intel about a plot in the works:

And the breakdown by race:

Note that the split among Democrats on Trutherism is almost a mirror image of the split among Republicans on Birtherism. Bear it in the mind the next time the media frets about fringe nuts taking over the GOP. Exit question: Were Democrats ever polled on whether Bush was the Antichrist during his presidency? He clearly was the root of all evil in the left’s cosmology, but even so, would secularists go so far as to anoint him the Biblical Master of Lies? Weigh in, liberal theologians!


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The anti-christ uses a telepromptor?

TN Mom on September 16, 2009 at 5:09 PM

I always liked The Omen.

Blake on September 16, 2009 at 5:03 PM

It’s All for you Damien Barrack!!! It’s All for you!!!!

portlandon on September 16, 2009 at 5:09 PM

The seventh seal shatters, the trumpet sounds, and the beast emergeth … to pass a stimulus bill?

sounds kinda like the book of revelations, pretty impressive for a athiest.

SHARPTOOTH on September 16, 2009 at 5:09 PM

Them Hispanics are sure racist. That alone could make the O-Czardom go to war with Mexico.

Aristotle on September 16, 2009 at 5:10 PM

Some people get playful with polling.

In school, I was surveyed about what drugs I had ingested in the last week. I might have said shrooms, LSD, PCP, coke, etc. In reality, I was ingesting caffeine and nicotine.

If asked about the Prez being an anti-Christ, I’d say no. Al Sharpton on the other hand is tempting… No, not smart enough. Who would make a good anti-Christ? Someone in Iran? I don’t think they’re smart enough either. Boo, no anti-Christ!

tuffy on September 16, 2009 at 5:10 PM

So, when the poll asked the “Antichrist” question, did they explicitly indicate whether they meant in a literal or figurative sense?

malclave on September 16, 2009 at 5:08 PM

Doesn’t matter. PPP is a democrat polling firm and wants very much to make the Right look like a bunch of kooks. I’m sure we’ll have video later of Olberman or Maddow carrying that water tonight, as Allah suggests.

SouthernGent on September 16, 2009 at 5:10 PM

Axelrod is the Anti-Christ. Obama is Executive Secretary to the Anti-Christ.

Cicero43 on September 16, 2009 at 5:11 PM

THE Anti-Christ or A anti-Christ? Because anyone evil enough to delegate a child to die in a dirty linen closet in the name of convenience is definitely an anti-Christ.

Guardian on September 16, 2009 at 5:11 PM

SouthernGent on September 16, 2009 at 5:00 PM

Thanks! Do you think this question asked about W or would the correct question for him have been, “Do you think that President Bush is the incarnate of Hitler?”

Cindy Munford on September 16, 2009 at 5:11 PM

37% of people at Comicon thought he was the Herald of Galactus.

I.M. Shatner on September 16, 2009 at 5:12 PM

Ask how many think he is Hitler re-incarnate…and you would get the same %.
Ask how many think his father was a kangaroo, and you would get the same %.
Ask how many think he was born on another planet…same %.
That % holds for the number of people who think Elvis is alive, we never landed on the moon, thinks Obama was born in Kenya and smuggled into Hawaii, thinks Jesus is from the planet Kolob…
The fact is, over 8% of the population on any given question, will give a coo-coo answer.

right2bright on September 16, 2009 at 5:12 PM

Surely the Anti-Christ will be able to lead with a Majority.

PappaMac on September 16, 2009 at 5:12 PM

The results of the birth certificate question are also interesting. Overall numbers on whether Obama was born in the U.S…

How the Hell is anyone in the general public suppose to know where The Messiah was born as He won’t let anyone in the general public see His Holy Document Birth Certificate?

MB4 on September 16, 2009 at 5:13 PM

Of course he is not the Antichrist!

That would mean he is the Prince of Darkness, and according to Mr Peanuts Carter, that’s RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACIST!!!!!!

pilamaye on September 16, 2009 at 5:13 PM

Surely the Anti-Christ will be able to lead with a Majority.

PappaMac on September 16, 2009 at 5:12 PM

Best line evah!

I.M. Shatner on September 16, 2009 at 5:13 PM

I gotta admit,
If a pollster asked me that,
I might answer yes.

Not because it’s true,
But just to screw around with
Moronic pollsters.

Haiku Guy on September 16, 2009 at 5:14 PM

Can’t we all just agree that socialism and its agents are inherently evil??? Now we know why he needed all those freshly ground aborted fetuses.

CMonster on September 16, 2009 at 5:14 PM

I love the fact that 13% arent sure. You’d think the anti-christ would be better known! LOL

Dr_Irish on September 16, 2009 at 5:14 PM

As a Jerseyite… I thought it was 9 out of 10. It’s just that here in Jersey, being the Antichrist would be a asset for a politician so far as many voters are concerned.
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RalphyBoy on September 16, 2009 at 5:14 PM

They could have thought the pollster meant the Jersey Devil.It depends if they just polled the Libs in North NJ who vote for people like Corzine, Menendez and Lautenbergand work in NYC. They’ll believe anything.

Beaglemom on September 16, 2009 at 5:15 PM

anti

–noun, plural -tis.

a person who is opposed to a particular practice, party, policy, action, etc.
Origin:
1780–90; by shortening of words prefixed with anti-

All atheists by definition are anti-christs. There are many.

Guardian on September 16, 2009 at 5:15 PM

37% of people at Comicon thought he was the Herald of Galactus.

I.M. Shatner on September 16, 2009 at 5:12 PM

That was just a plotline being discussed, in case the government took over Marvel like it has other companies.

Now that Disney has bought Marvel, the next Herald of Galactus will be Hannah Montana.

malclave on September 16, 2009 at 5:16 PM

The fact is, over 8% of the population on any given question, will give a coo-coo answer.

right2bright on September 16, 2009 at 5:12 PM

Whoa! That’s enough to swing a presidential election. We just may be onto something here.

platypus on September 16, 2009 at 5:17 PM

What better way to deceive people into thinking he is not the AntiChrist that to appear at first to be a bumbling idiot.

pedestrian on September 16, 2009 at 5:17 PM

The Devil came down from Chicago?

TN Mom on September 16, 2009 at 5:17 PM

Am I reading that right? A quarter of Hispanics think P.BO is the Antichrist?

Count to 10 on September 16, 2009 at 4:56 PM

Correct. And 18% aren’t sure. For whites, 7% say yes, and 12% aren’t sure. And best of all, 11% of black aren’t sure.

WTF?

BuckeyeSam on September 16, 2009 at 5:17 PM

All atheists by definition are anti-christs. There are many.

Guardian on September 16, 2009 at 5:15 PM

look out Allah, he’s got your number. /s

SHARPTOOTH on September 16, 2009 at 5:17 PM

Note that the split among Democrats on Trutherism is almost a mirror image of the split among Republicans on Birtherism.

On the matter of various and sundry “erism”, what about Democrats who practice racerism and Republicans who practice contiverism, like Ed, or deficiterism, like AllahP ?

MB4 on September 16, 2009 at 5:18 PM

C’mon! Obama….antichrist? He’s not that clever. The anitchrist isn’t going to have approval ratings in the toilet months after taking office. He is going to actually be able to lead someone. Obama can’t even lead his PARTY on their big issue. What’s more, not only doesn’t he lead his party, while not leading he ticks off a huge segment of voters that were friendly to him less than a year ago.

He can’t even take a solid stand on anything while he alienates everyone.

stldave on September 16, 2009 at 5:19 PM

This is two week’s worth of red meat for Charles Johnson and his suckups.

Cicero43 on September 16, 2009 at 5:20 PM

On the matter of various and sundry “erism”, what about Democrats who practice racerism and Republicans who practice contiverism, like Ed, or deficiterism, like AllahP ?

MB4 on September 16, 2009 at 5:18 PM

ism dinner ready yet, massa?

/sarc off

platypus on September 16, 2009 at 5:20 PM

Now that Disney has bought Marvel, the next Herald of Galactus will be Hannah Montana.

malclave on September 16, 2009 at 5:16 PM

Or possibly Stuart Scot. Boo Ya!

Can’t wait for the mutant version of “High School Musical”.

I.M. Shatner on September 16, 2009 at 5:21 PM

No way. The Antichrist will be competent.

tgibson1962 on September 16, 2009 at 4:44 PM

He will also be exceedingly charming and charismatic. The Antichrist wouldn’t be alienating the right and disappointing the far left. He will be the greatest uniter that ever lived.

Hm. Maybe Obama is anti-Antichrist.

novakyu on September 16, 2009 at 5:21 PM

When will New Jersey put behind it’s KKKonfederate leanings?

Upstater85 on September 16, 2009 at 5:22 PM

The results of the birth certificate question are also interesting.

Not just interesting — very interesting.
The last time you posted poll results. 4% of Dems doubted his birthplace. Now it’s 9%. Tell us again how this issue can only help Obama? Hmmmmmmm?

Ronnie on September 16, 2009 at 5:22 PM

This is two week’s worth of red meat for Charles Johnson and his suckups.

Cicero43 on September 16, 2009 at 5:20 PM

A little bit of brain bleach next time, please.

platypus on September 16, 2009 at 5:22 PM

Surely the Anti-Christ will be able to lead with a Majority.

PappaMac on September 16, 2009 at 5:12 PM

Seriously, that’s what I thing also.

Cindy Munford on September 16, 2009 at 5:23 PM

Hm. Maybe Obama is anti-Antichrist.

novakyu on September 16, 2009 at 5:21 PM

LOL … but only in a non-Aristotelian sense.

progressoverpeace on September 16, 2009 at 5:23 PM

The fact is, over 8% of the population on any given question, will give a coo-coo answer.

right2bright on September 16, 2009 at 5:12 PM

Yep.

angryed on September 16, 2009 at 5:24 PM

I’ll fully admit when he was getting all the fawning and fainting during the campaign – the thought crossed my mind.

gophergirl on September 16, 2009 at 5:24 PM

This is two week’s worth of red meat for Charles Johnson and his suckups.

Cicero43 on September 16, 2009 at 5:20 PM

It will be a hot time in the insane asylum.

MB4 on September 16, 2009 at 5:25 PM

Well..what do u expect from New Jersey.

becki51758 on September 16, 2009 at 5:25 PM

I would just like to point out that the South Shore was more racist…

Upstater85 on September 16, 2009 at 5:25 PM

Since when do people care about what only 8% of a population thinks? How is this news in any way shape or form?

Forgive a nonbeliever his ignorance, but isn’t the Antichrist supposed to have more sinister priorities than, um, running up deficits?

You know better than this. The Anti-Christ is supposedly a world wide figure, a man or woman the entire world will look to as a leader. Even if he is the Anti-Christ, he’s not a world leader yet. Calling him one now, is akin to what the Democrats did in trying to block confirmations for minorities they knew would eventually be Supreme Court candidates.

Thing is, by their own logic, he can’t possibly be the Anti-Christ, because that’s a figure who will fool everyone until it’s too late, like the water that boils slowly to keep the frog in it until its death.

A likely candidate for Anti-Christ is a leader loved by the world (including his own people, not someone who can’t break 50%) and able to bring about peace (presumably just through words). Essentially, it’s who Obama worshipers think Obama is.

Of course that brings up another point. How many Democrats consider Obama the Second Coming? Why don’t we do a poll on that?

This Anti-Christ meme is nothing new. It’s been tossed at every charismatic president, including Reagan (who was a more likely candidate considering his electoral landslides).

Esthier on September 16, 2009 at 5:25 PM

I think that Obama is Ori.

MB4 on September 16, 2009 at 5:26 PM

Nah, it’s Soros. He would be the more competent one. Barry, Hugo and DinnerJacket are the Beasties.

mimi1220 on September 16, 2009 at 5:26 PM

Michele O is Klingon.

MB4 on September 16, 2009 at 5:26 PM

If I was asked this question, I’d answer yes just for fun, not because I really believed it. I think that may be why the numbers so high. Who could take such a question seriously?

Emily M. on September 16, 2009 at 5:26 PM

The antichrist is supposed to gain in popularity.

LibTired on September 16, 2009 at 5:27 PM

The anti-Christ merely needs to make America weak and totally focused negatively on itself while evil works it’s magic in the world.

I’d say it is working pretty good.

BL@KBIRD on September 16, 2009 at 5:27 PM

Charles Jonson in Anthony Freemont. Allpundit is Loki.

MB4 on September 16, 2009 at 5:27 PM

I dunno about y’all, but I always lie to pollsters.

fronclynne on September 16, 2009 at 5:28 PM

Hmmm…I am too lazy to do it since it is pretty irrelevant, but if you counted up the posts here on this thread alone that seemed to lean towards the affirmative belief that he was the (an) anti-Christ I think you just might end up with 8 ~ 10%.
Wait, are all you from Jersey?!?

donkichi on September 16, 2009 at 5:28 PM

Allahpundit is Loki.

MB4 on September 16, 2009 at 5:28 PM

The anti-christ uses a telepromptor?

TN Mom on September 16, 2009 at 5:09 PM

Great minds think alike.

Daggett on September 16, 2009 at 5:29 PM

Well..what do u expect from New Jersey.

becki51758 on September 16, 2009 at 5:25 PM

Hey, I love New Jersey. It was the home of Maury Muehleisen.

Daggett on September 16, 2009 at 5:30 PM

Obama is the:

AntiJob
AntiGroth
AntiProgress
AntiAmerica
AntiIsreal
AntiSuccess
AntiIndependence

portlandon on September 16, 2009 at 5:30 PM

The anti-christ uses a telepromptor?

TN Mom on September 16, 2009 at 5:09 PM

Yah, shouldn’t the anti-Christ use a holyroller?

MB4 on September 16, 2009 at 5:30 PM

would secularists go so far as to anoint him the Biblical Master of Lies?

Wouldn’t you actually have to believe in some religion to call someone the AntiChrist? When what you worship is trees or rocks I doubt you’d worry about Satan.

katiejane on September 16, 2009 at 5:32 PM

Obama is the:

AntiJob
AntiGroth
AntiProgress
AntiAmerica
AntiIsreal
AntiSuccess
AntiIndependence

portlandon on September 16, 2009 at 5:30 PM

Yah, and that is just on Day One. Wait till Days Two through Six, until he rests on Day Seven.

MB4 on September 16, 2009 at 5:32 PM

I reject dispensational eschatology, but I see Obama as an anti-Christ in the sense that he is against Christ. He has the spirit of AntiChrist. As we all know he is an aggressive supporter of abortion, even late-term abortion (even infanticide). He doesn’t have any truth in him. Plus, no actual believer scoffs at the Sermon on the Mount and takes Bible passages out-of-context for political gain. He doesn’t know my Lord. But it’s foolhardy to believe he is The Antichrist.

flyfisher on September 16, 2009 at 5:33 PM

I reject dispensational eschatology

Me too. I go for pre-millennial non-dispensational supralapsarian post-menopausal pre-wrath post-toasties mid-dlesmertz compensational eschatology, myself.

Daggett on September 16, 2009 at 5:36 PM

Obama is really Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde.

MB4 on September 16, 2009 at 5:37 PM

Would oboobi’s muslim brethren be upset over this?

SHARPTOOTH on September 16, 2009 at 5:38 PM

The seventh seal shatters, the trumpet sounds, and the beast emergeth … to pass a stimulus bill?

For some reason, this has me out of breath laughing.

MadisonConservative on September 16, 2009 at 5:39 PM

The anti-Christ questions is stupid. It’s the kind of question that would make you want to answer “Yes” just because of how ridiculous it is for a professional polling firm to be asking the question.

JadeNYU on September 16, 2009 at 5:39 PM

Obama is really Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde.

MB4 on September 16, 2009 at 5:37 PM

More like Dr. Jerk and Mr. Hype.

progressoverpeace on September 16, 2009 at 5:39 PM

Obama is really Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde.

MB4 on September 16, 2009 at 5:37 PM

Hyde? Like the skin of an animal? A monkey, maybe? RACIST!!!

Daggett on September 16, 2009 at 5:39 PM

You can add me to the list, too.

shoregulls on September 16, 2009 at 5:39 PM

Another sterling display of the intellect on the Right! Please keep these polls going!

dcwvu on September 16, 2009 at 5:40 PM

Oh, man! This is RAAAACISTT! Are they rioting in Harlem yet?
Jimma Cahter and the media can’t wait to start the riots!

Cybergeezer on September 16, 2009 at 5:40 PM

My collie says:

Why don’t they ask the boss what she thinks? After all, she’s a Jersey girl.

Jimmuh will set’em straight. He’ll tell’em that the anti-Christ simply HAS to be one of the JOOOOS. Besides, everyone knows that ONLY the blue-eyed white devil is EVIL enough to be the anti-Christ.

CyberCipher on September 16, 2009 at 5:41 PM

I go for pre-millennial non-dispensational supralapsarian post-menopausal pre-wrath post-toasties mid-dlesmertz compensational eschatology, myself.

Daggett on September 16, 2009 at 5:36 PM

I have been of that very school of thought for some time now myself with just a dash of punctuated equilibrium thrown in for flavor.

MB4 on September 16, 2009 at 5:41 PM

I await the half-a-loaf Republicans pushing Huckabee because he connects with Hispanics.

Chris_Balsz on September 16, 2009 at 5:41 PM

Forgive a nonbeliever his ignorance, but isn’t the Antichrist supposed to have more sinister priorities than, um, running up deficits? The seventh seal shatters, the trumpet sounds, and the beast emergeth … to pass a stimulus bill?

Practice, AP. The man’s gotta work his way up, you know….

tom on September 16, 2009 at 5:42 PM

Found the reason for this in New Jersey

donkichi on September 16, 2009 at 5:42 PM

Another sterling display of the intellect on the Right! Please keep these polls going!

dcwvu on September 16, 2009 at 5:40 PM

No fair, you got skewed sample: people admitting to living in New Jersey.

Chris_Balsz on September 16, 2009 at 5:42 PM

Isn’t there a certain percentage of people that gives the funniest, most flippant answer whenever asked by a pollster? I thought that percentage was 10%. We must be losing our sense of humor.

theCork on September 16, 2009 at 5:42 PM

Charles Jonson in Anthony Freemont. Allahpundit is Loki.

MB4 on September 16, 2009 at 5:27 PM

I’ll believe it when I see Allah walking out of a forest leading an eight-legged horse.

TMK on September 16, 2009 at 5:44 PM

Me too. I go for pre-millennial non-dispensational supralapsarian post-menopausal pre-wrath post-toasties mid-dlesmertz compensational eschatology, myself.

Daggett on September 16, 2009 at 5:36 PM

Didn’t D.L. Moody and Zane Grey co-write a novel series based on that view?

flyfisher on September 16, 2009 at 5:44 PM

More like Dr. Jerk and Mr. Hype.

progressoverpeace on September 16, 2009 at 5:39 PM

After drinking from a rancid potion of Paul Begala’s, Saul Alinsky’s, Jeremiah Wright’s, Nancy Pelosi’s, Jimmy Carter’s, the enabling sycophant MSM’s and his own creation, Barack is transformed into the cruel, remorseless, evil Herr Hussein, representing the hidden side of Obama’s dual nature brought to the fore. Barack has many friends and can affect a pleasing personality, but as Herr Hussein he becomes more and more dictatorial, encourages slander and then violence and becomes ever more fascist like as time goes by as the Herr Hussein side of his dual nature continues to grow in dominance. After taking this rancid potion repetitively, he will no longer need to rely upon it to unleash all his terrible inner fascist demons.

Sigmund on September 16, 2009 at 5:46 PM

dcwvu on September 16, 2009 at 5:40 PM

Right, because 8% or more wouldn’t have called Bush the Antichrist. BTW, 24% of Hispanics in this poll think Obama is the Antichrist and they are supposed to be the future constituents of the Democratic party after blacks abort themselves into extinction.

NotCoach on September 16, 2009 at 5:46 PM

Forgive a nonbeliever his ignorance, but isn’t the Antichrist supposed to have more sinister priorities than, um, running up deficits? The seventh seal shatters, the trumpet sounds, and the beast emergeth … to pass a stimulus bill?

Practice, AP. The man’s gotta work his way up, you know….

tom on September 16, 2009 at 5:42 PM

More seriously — or at least, as seriously as you can take such a question — I have known people who swore that Ronald Reagan — Reagan!! — was the antichrist, because he there were 6 letters each in Ronald Wilson Reagan. I’m pretty sure those people were not his political supporters. I’m betting no one ever polled that question. Maybe it didn’t fit their agenda?

tom on September 16, 2009 at 5:49 PM

I’m not worried about any anti-christ. It’s the image of the beast that gets me worried. 666 is 2/3 votes of the population.

TwilightStruggler on September 16, 2009 at 5:50 PM

Robert Gibbs is Gilligan.

viking01 on September 16, 2009 at 5:50 PM

Another sterling display of the intellect on the Right! Please keep these polls going!

dcwvu on September 16, 2009 at 5:40 PM

Because of what 8% believe (not all of them Republicans I might add; did you see the breakdown by ethnicity?)?

Obviously we need to do a poll on how many on your side believe in Big Foot and aliens.

Esthier on September 16, 2009 at 5:53 PM

It’s not surprising. I know at least one person in NJ who told me, with a straight face, that Bush was the Antichrist.

MainelyRight on September 16, 2009 at 5:54 PM

NERO = ANTI-CHRIST

not Obama, though they do share much of the same spirit, but Obama is a far better version

jp on September 16, 2009 at 5:56 PM

NERO is 666 in HEBREW, its who Paul was referring to

the Beast is the Roman Empire

jp on September 16, 2009 at 5:57 PM

Has Obama produced any documents proving he is not the anti-Christ?

Daemonocracy on September 16, 2009 at 6:01 PM

dcwvu on September 16, 2009 at 5:40 PM

You’re a racist, why should anyone care what you think?

malclave on September 16, 2009 at 6:02 PM

I think the exact number in Joisey who think this is 6.66 %.

profitsbeard on September 16, 2009 at 6:07 PM

I know that 0bama is not the Anti-Christ.

A minion perhaps.

But the antichrist would be much smarter. much less shallow.
The antichrist would not need a teleprompter, a hundred speechwriters and a lot of pre-speech coaching by Rahm and Axlerod in order to persuade people to follow.

LegendHasIt on September 16, 2009 at 6:09 PM

I always liked The Omen.

Blake on September 16, 2009 at 5:03 PM

Born of a jackal. Hey wait a minute….

:)

baldilocks on September 16, 2009 at 6:11 PM

Great post! Allah works the Red Meat like a Benihana grillmaster. Bravo!

I will say that several friends have asked this question aloud, and they weren’t joking.

My take: he isn’t THE antichrist, all those YouTube arguments to the contrary, but all those fawning acolytes Photoshopping halos onto the latter-day Johnny Bravo aren’t helping matters.

All I see is a thin-skinned n00b with a limited bag of political tricks, and a resume he never came close to backing up with concrete accomplishments, currently treading water.

sulla on September 16, 2009 at 6:13 PM

Actually I’m leaning towards him being a vampire. Anybody ever seen The One’s reflection in a mirror, hmmm? HMMMMMMM?

Dr. ZhivBlago on September 16, 2009 at 6:14 PM

Heck, I’m completely agnostic, and I still think Obama is the Anti-Christ.

jsingood on September 16, 2009 at 6:15 PM

Every president in my lifetime has been accused by SOMEONE of being the Antichrist, and I suspect the slur goes all the way back to George Washington (all that Masonic juju, thank you Dan Brown…)

sulla on September 16, 2009 at 6:16 PM

What’s the % of New Jersians who voted for Obama?

There’s no accountin for stupid.

catmman on September 16, 2009 at 6:18 PM

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