Rasmussen: Speech bump over, ObamaCare support drops again

posted at 12:15 pm on September 15, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

Barack Obama hoped to use a prime-time speech to the joint session of Congress to change the momentum for ObamaCare.  Initially, Obama seemed to get a bump inside the Beltway, with fence-sitter Sen. Ben Nelson (D-NE) calling it a “game changer.”  Even Rasmussen detected a shift in support initially, both for Obama and his health-care system overhaul.  However, six days later, Rasmussen now says it wasn’t even a nine-day wonder (via HA reader Geoff A):

Following President Obama’s speech to Congress last week, support for his health care reform plan increased steadily to a peak of 51% yesterday. However, the bounce appears to be over. The latest daily tracking shows that support has fallen all the way back to pre-speech levels.

Forty-five percent (45%) of all voters nationwide now favor the plan while 52% are opposed. A week ago, 44% supported the proposal and 53% were opposed…

The latest figures show that 23% Strongly Favor the plan and 41% are Strongly Opposed. In late August, 23% were strongly in favor of the plan and 43% were strongly opposed.

Following the speech, support climbed from 44% to 51% over the weekend.  That came crashing down in a hurry yesterday, losing six points in a day and recreating a seven-point gap between opposition and support, 52%-45% respectively.

The crosstabs appear to have returned to status quo ante.  Independents oppose the ObamaCare plan by a large majority, 58%-38%, and that will make the difference for wavering members of Congress.  Majorities of both men and women oppose it again, with 41% of both strongly opposing it.  To no one’s surprise, seniors oppose it 53%-42%, but perhaps in a big surprise, young voters oppose it even more, 54%-40%.  The only age demographic supporting right now are thirtysomethings, 53%-46%.

USA Today notes that Obama’s overall numbers didn’t move, either:

The findings underscore the steep climb ahead for the White House in trying to push a health care plan through the House and Senate during the next few weeks. Some major provisions, including how to pay for it and whether to include a government-run plan as an option, haven’t been settled.

The president’s speech apparently failed to galvanize public opinion in the way the White House had hoped. While it drew a national television audience estimated by Nielsen at more than 32 million people, there’s little evidence in the survey that it changed minds.

Obama’s approval rating is 54%, the same as in two USA TODAY polls in August; 43% disapprove, the highest of his presidency.

The problem for Obama is that this was about the last arrow in the quiver.  He has tried using the same message in every other kind of venue — press conferences, town halls, interviews — and it’s not moving the needle.  People have tired of hearing Obama offering the same arguments over and over again, differing only in the tone, which has gotten more strident and less pleasant over the last few weeks.  He’s not just squandering his credibility, but also his considerable personal charm on the stump, and it’s not buying him any votes.

What’s next?  Either ObamaCare has to change, or Obama has to change.  Thus far, Obama has given no real hint that either will.

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What’s next? Either ObamaCare has to change, or Obama has to change. Thus far, Obama has given no real hint that either will.

You can’t change a heart of stone

blatantblue on September 15, 2009 at 12:17 PM

It’s game over, anyways. Fed’s been trying to stop deflation since end of last year. Didn’t work. Game over.

lorien1973 on September 15, 2009 at 12:17 PM

Just like New Coke. Nobody’s buying it.

Fletch54 on September 15, 2009 at 12:18 PM

The only age demographic supporting right now are thirtysomethings, 53%-46%.

wow, what are my people thinking?

ThackerAgency on September 15, 2009 at 12:19 PM

wow….breaking out the TOTUS just doesn’t have the magic it used too….

alexraye on September 15, 2009 at 12:20 PM

It’s game over, anyways. Fed’s been trying to stop deflation since end of last year. Didn’t work. Game over.

lorien1973 on September 15, 2009 at 12:17 PM

You got it. This economy is toast.

flyfisher on September 15, 2009 at 12:20 PM

wow, what are my people thinking?

ThackerAgency on September 15, 2009 at 12:19 PM

You guys are at the top of Obamacare’s bell curve.

Fletch54 on September 15, 2009 at 12:21 PM

Better book another show on 60 Minutes..and double up on the smooth voice and kicked back demeanor…it’ll help mask the squealing squirrel cage of leftie ideological insanity that must be the background movie that plays in a nonstop loop in his socialist brain.

Itchee Dryback on September 15, 2009 at 12:21 PM

Our youth should be strongly opposed to Obamacare: It takes away their freedom today and places an impossible-to-repay mortgage on their future.

GaltBlvnAtty on September 15, 2009 at 12:21 PM

B-b-b-but HE QUOTES NIEBUHR!!!!

CDeb on September 15, 2009 at 12:21 PM

You got it. This economy is toast.

flyfisher on September 15, 2009 at 12:20 PM

looks like ill have to resort to prostitution

blatantblue on September 15, 2009 at 12:21 PM

what next? ONE MORE SPEECH!!!!!!

TimTebowSavesAmerica on September 15, 2009 at 12:22 PM

Do it for Teddy ! hck

redrock on September 15, 2009 at 12:23 PM

And he’s making how many appearances on TV this coming Sunday? Keep talking Barry, it suits you.

Does anyone think that our march on Saturday is having any affect? Did we wake up more sleeping giants who are now not afraid to admit that they are not alone?

Knucklehead on September 15, 2009 at 12:23 PM

Keep talking, keep talking…

parteagirl on September 15, 2009 at 12:23 PM

Phase 1: An Obama speech
Phase 2: ?
Phase 3: Profit!

mudskipper on September 15, 2009 at 12:23 PM

Will he call O’Reilly to be on The Factor? Probably not.

kingsjester on September 15, 2009 at 12:23 PM

looks like ill have to resort to prostitution

blatantblue on September 15, 2009 at 12:21 PM

Congress is hiring…………..

UNREPENTANT CONSERVATIVE CAPITOLIST on September 15, 2009 at 12:23 PM

GaltBlvnAtty on September 15, 2009 at 12:21 PM

it pisses me off

but my peers think they all deserve something. it’s ridiculous.

they have no historical perspective, and they have no gratitude. all they do is whine about Teachers Assistant pay, Grad TA pay, tuition costs, etc

whine whine whine, yet they dont have the perspective to see that 100 years ago, they wouldnt have an opportunity like this, and theyd be working their hands to the bone with a kid or two popped out already, living in some windowless apartment in Brooklyn or something.

a lack of perspective is the biggest problem with america. we forget how good we have it. therefore, we think we deserve shi’ite when we don’t.

blatantblue on September 15, 2009 at 12:24 PM

TOTUS:

“That was not the speech I thought I was going to give….”

(“Can I get a do-over?”)

JoeinTX on September 15, 2009 at 12:24 PM

You got it. This economy is toast.

flyfisher on September 15, 2009 at 12:20 PM

Bernacke claimed today that the recession is over… of course, unemployment will continue to rise… but the recession is over.

That makes about the 5th month is a row that somebody has declared the recession over.

mankai on September 15, 2009 at 12:24 PM

What’s next?

- 5 Sunday morning talk show appearences
- Sunday night football halftime with 5 second satellite delay?
- American Idol judge?
- Jay Leno show?
- Guest Appearence on Sponge Bob?
- Hidden video of himself in an ACORN office?

WashJeff on September 15, 2009 at 12:24 PM

Be a patriot. Turn off all talking head shows this Sunday. Just say no to habitual lying.

Fletch54 on September 15, 2009 at 12:25 PM

So what trick is he going to use the next time he wants the networks to empty their schedule for him?

Cindy Munford on September 15, 2009 at 12:26 PM

What’s next? Either ObamaCare has to change, or Obama has to change. Thus far, Obama has given no real hint that either will.

Don’t you mean both Obamacare and Obama need to change? The filthy liar can change tactics all he wants but it doesn’t get around the fact that the legislation is bad. Were I advising the bastard, I’d say hit the re-set button and make a very big show about creating a bipartisan bill that addresses what are supposedly the most critical points of Obamacare.

BTW, where’s that idiot from yesterday who was waving the Rasmussen poll as proof that Obamacare was on its way to acceptance with the American people?

highhopes on September 15, 2009 at 12:26 PM

“Considerable personal charm” ???

WTF ( where the frak ) is that?

You’re seeing something I don’t see, Ed

Janos Hunyadi on September 15, 2009 at 12:27 PM

Only the “Acorn Class” is communist like Obama and Vann Jones. The people that make America work by working everday are anti-communist.

Self reliant individualism remains the foundation most productive Americans subscribe to, but Obama has spent his career soaking in the nonproductive handout class. No wonder he sees things the way he does. Something for nothing is a way of life for the “Acorn Class” in which Obama was a lawyer for.

saiga on September 15, 2009 at 12:27 PM

There’s still Sunday, when Obama will be on all the talk shows and the football games as well!

He could always do 60 Minutes again!

drjohn on September 15, 2009 at 12:27 PM

The Federal Reserve chairman said the economy likely is growing now, but it won’t be sufficient to prevent the unemployment rate, now at a 26-year high of 9.7 percent, from rising. However, he said Tuesday that the worst downturn since the 1930s has probably ended.

Strong words!

The economy is expanding, but it needs even fewer workers.

Get those poll numbers up, boys!

mankai on September 15, 2009 at 12:27 PM

B-b-b-but HE QUOTES NIEBUHR!!!!

CDeb on September 15, 2009 at 12:21 PM

Funny. I can’t tell you how many educated professionals I met last year who swooned with this kind superficial awe.

rrpjr on September 15, 2009 at 12:28 PM

Bernacke claimed today that the recession is over… of course, unemployment will continue to rise… but the recession is over.
mankai on September 15, 2009 at 12:24 PM

Yea; Lying is contagious.

Cybergeezer on September 15, 2009 at 12:28 PM

You got it. This economy is toast.

flyfisher on September 15, 2009 at 12:20 PM

Bernacke claimed today that the recession is over… of course, unemployment will continue to rise… but the recession is over.

That makes about the 5th month is a row that somebody has declared the recession over.

mankai on September 15, 2009 at 12:24 PM

How many times did the boy cry wolf before the villagers told him to screw off?

MilSpec32 on September 15, 2009 at 12:29 PM

Obama & all of his clones will be on 4 sunday shows this weekend.

That should bring his numbers back up. /s

portlandon on September 15, 2009 at 12:29 PM

Janos Hunyadi on September 15, 2009 at 12:27 PM

Ed seems to have this odd urge to throw the occasional compliment to the enemy.

This recent one isn’t as bad as when he “admires” communists for “being consistent with their principles” or something.

mankai on September 15, 2009 at 12:30 PM

Will he call O’Reilly to be on The Factor? Probably not.

kingsjester on September 15, 2009 at 12:23 PM

Why wouldn’t he? Ted Baxter Bill O’Reilly certainly wouldn’t ask him anything that would offend or pressure him. He didn’t the first time and I’m sure he would be even more of a l!mpdick this time.

CC

CapedConservative on September 15, 2009 at 12:30 PM

The Amateur in Chief and his administration of Clinton retreads and Chicago thug politicians are epic fails – as we knew they would be. I am soooo pissed at the idiots who voted this crap into office. That includes Frum, Parker, Noonan, and all the others. I don’t want to hear ANYTHING from them! Just shut the hell up and go away – you’ve done enough damage to us already.

KickandSwimMom on September 15, 2009 at 12:30 PM

Socialism, communism, and Obamaism are all peas in the same pod. You dumbasses that voted for this extremist need to wake up and accept the fact you are gullable chumps that got fooled and took the cheezy bait.

How embarrassing it must be to be so foolish and weak minded.

saiga on September 15, 2009 at 12:33 PM

He has tried using the same message in every other kind of venue — press conferences, town halls, interviews — and it’s not moving the needle.

Time to pull out the bribe locker and get the votes lined up the old fashioned way.

highhopes on September 15, 2009 at 12:34 PM

CapedConservative on September 15, 2009 at 12:30 PM

I just thought if he’s going to avoid Chris Wallace’s Show, he would probably avoid O’Reilly also. Both of them are Moderates.

kingsjester on September 15, 2009 at 12:34 PM

IMO the 912 mar`h helped deflate the poll bump mighty fast and I thank each and every patriot who made the journey!
booyah!

ginaswo on September 15, 2009 at 12:34 PM

Speech Bump

If I could draw, I’d have a cartoon for that phrase!

misslizzi on September 15, 2009 at 12:35 PM

kickland
the really sad part is many of the Clinton retreads actually UNDERSTAND how an economy in a capitalist system is supposed to function and had they a leader at the top who emulated Big Dawg policies we would be exiting the recession and growing now. but NOOOOOOOOO they had to put up TOTUS instead…

ginaswo on September 15, 2009 at 12:36 PM

What’s next? Either ObamaCare has to change, or Obama has to change. Thus far, Obama has given no real hint that either will. some sort of national emergency.

katy on September 15, 2009 at 12:36 PM

Obama would make a good president for Haiti. They all share his passion for achievement and respect for accomplishment.

saiga on September 15, 2009 at 12:36 PM

Be a patriot. Turn off all talking head shows this Sunday. Just say no to habitual lying.

Fletch54 on September 15, 2009 at 12:25 PM

Now there is a movement I could get behind. What the heck would these people do if we just turned them all off?

This Sunday, if you have a family plan a picnic, or fishing trip, or walk the dog, clean the garage or whatever. Then if they don’t get the message, we can do it again the next Sunday, and the next, and the next. America, they are all screwing with us and they think they can keep doing it. Let’s unplug from them all! Your family will benefit from the move and the talking heads will understand that we are not their minions. Let’s all just have a Tea Party at HOME!

MikeA on September 15, 2009 at 12:36 PM

The ObamaCake is red on the inside with a tasty con-man frosting.

faraway on September 15, 2009 at 12:37 PM

Obama would make a good president for Haiti Venezuela.

saiga on September 15, 2009 at 12:36 PM

FIFY

PappaMac on September 15, 2009 at 12:38 PM

Wonder what his upcoming Sunday Talk Shows Bump is going to look like?

I hope it’s a gorgeous, sunny summer day on Sunday!

misslizzi on September 15, 2009 at 12:38 PM

What’s next?

Appeal to wacademia;

President Obama To Hold Health Care Rally at U-Maryland

WHEN: Thursday, September 17, 2009, 11 a.m. Doors open at 9 a.m. Comcast Center Directions

BACKGROUND: This is the third time Mr. Obama has come to College Park since 2006, but his first as President. Obama campaigned for then-U.S. Representative Ben Cardin when he was running for a U.S. Senate seat in 2006, and held a huge campaign rally at Comcast in February, 2008. This will be his third event to promote health care reform since his speech to a Joint Session of Congress, and it is expected to draw a large crowd. The rally will be free and open to the public. Space is available on a first come, first served basis. No ticket is required. Doors will open at 9 a.m. and the rally is expected to start at 11 a.m.
Members of the general public should use public transportation.
Limited handicapped parking will be available in the Terrapin Trail/Arena Garage off of Route 193.

All attendees will go through airport-like security and should bring as few personal items as possible. No bags, no sharp objects, no umbrellas, no liquids, no strollers, and no signs will be allowed into the venue. Cameras are permitted.

Terp Mole on September 15, 2009 at 12:38 PM

Turds don’t bounce much before they fall flat.

jimmy2shoes on September 15, 2009 at 12:39 PM

B-b-b-but HE QUOTES NIEBUHR!!!!

CDeb on September 15, 2009 at 12:21 PM

But this nation quotes Jefferson.

Fighton03 on September 15, 2009 at 12:40 PM

Dead cat bounce….

The clothes have no emperor

phreshone on September 15, 2009 at 12:40 PM

Ginaswo –

The thought that Clinton’s retreads understand how an economy works is not very comforting. It was these dolts who complained that the stimulus wasn’t BIG enough. They are Keynesian (sp?) economists. Obama is nothing but a Sham Wow pitch-man. That is why he has so many Czars. He knows absolutely nothing about a lot of things and he merely sells the product the big boys behind the curtain tell him to.

No, this economy won’t start growing until we get some folks in office who know what the hell they are doing.

KickandSwimMom on September 15, 2009 at 12:41 PM

looks like ill have to resort to prostitution

blatantblue on September 15, 2009 at 12:21 PM

There’s a neat little organization called ACORN that can help you get a mortgage for your brothel with taxpayer money.

jimmy2shoes on September 15, 2009 at 12:41 PM

Terp Mole on September 15, 2009 at 12:38 PM

Sounds like a tea party…..

Fighton03 on September 15, 2009 at 12:41 PM

How ’bout he try making a speech in Europe again?

My suggestion is he make it on the bridge of the Titanic.

NoDonkey on September 15, 2009 at 12:41 PM

The ObamaCake is red on the inside with a tasty con-man frosting.

faraway on September 15, 2009 at 12:37 PM

lol

Jeff from WI on September 15, 2009 at 12:42 PM

- Hidden video of himself in an ACORN office?

WashJeff on September 15, 2009 at 12:24 PM

Think the narcissist might have made an ACORN training video somewhere along the line?

singer on September 15, 2009 at 12:42 PM

I will be convinced Obamacare is defeated when there is no passage of a bill for the President to sign. The same goes for the so-called public “option”. I do not believe, despite Sen Grahmnesty’s assertion that it is “dead”, the public option will be left out of the final bill until Congress is done passing their respective bills in each house, before getting together to put Frankenstein together in committee.

Weebork on September 15, 2009 at 12:42 PM

I always thought Obama quoted Pee Wee Herman: I know you are but what am I.
Obama wouldn’t make a good President of a local PTO.

kingsjester on September 15, 2009 at 12:42 PM

This Sunday….
Let’s all just have a Tea Party at HOME!

MikeA on September 15, 2009 at 12:36 PM

Yes! Exactly!

Ha. I think I’ll call my grandmother on Sunday and make sure to distract her for a good five hours so she doesn’t catch any of those shows. She sure loves Obama (which no family member understands because she was a Republican all her life) and she sure loves to talk.

misslizzi on September 15, 2009 at 12:43 PM

I seem to remember Barney Frank and another prostitution ring. Perhaps this was all Barney’s idea.

Jeff from WI on September 15, 2009 at 12:43 PM

OT – - – check out BigGov…. not a video release, but a tasty little nugget

phreshone on September 15, 2009 at 12:44 PM

He has tried using the same message in every other kind of venue — press conferences, town halls, interviews — and it’s not moving the needle.
Time to pull out the bribe locker and get the votes lined up the old fashioned way.

highhopes on September 15, 2009 at 12:34 PM

Something tells me Beck’s threat of exposure trumps this.

singer on September 15, 2009 at 12:44 PM

Will he call O’Reilly to be on The Factor? Probably not.

kingsjester on September 15, 2009 at 12:23 PM

Is it just me or is BOR changing his tune in a vain attempt to get Obama on the show?? The way he treated Axelrod last week and since then. Add in last nights report of ONLY 75,000 patriots in Washington, DC on Saturday. His Ego is really beginning to show.

ny59giants on September 15, 2009 at 12:45 PM

Deadest dead-cat bounce ever! Another precedent set by The Precedent.

progressoverpeace on September 15, 2009 at 12:45 PM

Here comes another prime time speech. I just know it.

Daggett on September 15, 2009 at 12:45 PM

So, they have no legal right to operate in Maryland? Is that what it means?

milwife88 on September 15, 2009 at 12:46 PM

phreshone on September 15, 2009 at 12:44 PM

Sorry, see post above.

milwife88 on September 15, 2009 at 12:47 PM

blatantblue at 12:24
It is uplifting to see the youthful success of Hannah Giles and James O’Keefe. They are great role models. Further, the ACORN people with whom they dealt are pitiful examples of the results of the entitlement culture.
Maybe there are some lessons there for your friends.

GaltBlvnAtty on September 15, 2009 at 12:47 PM

Deadest dead-cat bounce ever! Another precedent set by The Precedent.

progressoverpeace on September 15, 2009 at 12:45 PM

Chicago voter bounce..

the_nile on September 15, 2009 at 12:48 PM

I propose the creation of a new network: ONN

The OBAMA NEWS NETWORK.

We then consolidate all coverage of BHO on one network. He can have access to it 24-7. He can get up for a midnight snack and throw in a lecture on the topic of his choice right there in the Oval Office, in bathrobe and slippers.

It will get him off the other channels so we can watch something relevant while giving the disciples a source for continuous worship.

Who do we call about this?

IndieDogg on September 15, 2009 at 12:48 PM

Still to come: Chicago Mafia connections.

Sooooooooooo savory.

Akzed on September 15, 2009 at 12:49 PM

He’s not just squandering his credibility, but also his considerable personal charm on the stump, and it’s not buying him any votes

.Reagan was a master at taking his case to the people, but he never overdid it. Obama reminds me of the persistent teenage boy who wants to make out in the back of the car and they girl keeps telling him “No.” After a while, he stops being charming and starts being an annoying jerk.

Beaglemom on September 15, 2009 at 12:49 PM

Here comes another prime time speech. I just know it.

Daggett on September 15, 2009 at 12:45 PM

NO MAS!!! See what the president has failed to realize is that for most Americans he does not need to impress them anymore…they are throughly convinced. I know I am.

milwife88 on September 15, 2009 at 12:49 PM

Who do we call about this?

IndieDogg on September 15, 2009 at 12:48 PM

Don’t we already have the Cartoon Network?

NoDonkey on September 15, 2009 at 12:50 PM

Think the narcissist might have made an ACORN training video somewhere along the line?

singer on September 15, 2009 at 12:42 PM

This one about ACORN helping to shape his agenda? Can’t wait to see his child prostitution plan and how gold from Fort Know will be buried in a tin in his backyard.

WashJeff on September 15, 2009 at 12:50 PM

Just like New Coke. Nobody’s buying it.

Fletch54 on September 15, 2009 at 12:18 PM

Good one….

PatriotRider on September 15, 2009 at 12:51 PM

What’s next?

Well, he could strap on his Mom jeans and become the official coin flipper for as many NFL games as he could fly to, and then give half time interviews.

He could also co-host 60 Minutes and the Today Show. No, that’s right, he’s already doing that.

TXUS on September 15, 2009 at 12:51 PM

CrockObama:

Ladies…uhhhh…and,uhh…gentlemen….there..has been, ummm… a situation…..and,uhh….we have….ahhh…deemed it…ahhh…..above my paygrade….to respond.

News media: He speaks so fluently and looks great doing it.

dthorny on September 15, 2009 at 12:52 PM

mankai on September 15, 2009 at 12:30 PM

yes, and I remember how much this ‘nice guy / civility’ Thing worked for Bush 41. George H.W. thought that being a decent man would get him the respect of the Dems and a second term

Ford tried the same approach….

Janos Hunyadi on September 15, 2009 at 12:52 PM

Still to come: Chicago Mafia connections.

Sooooooooooo savory.

Akzed on September 15, 2009 at 12:49 PM

Does today’s “alleged” Acorn admitted murderer on biggovernment.com today count?

dthorny on September 15, 2009 at 12:54 PM

I propose the creation of a new network: ONN
The OBAMA NEWS NETWORK.
We then consolidate all coverage of BHO on one network. He can have access to it 24-7. He can get up for a midnight snack and throw in a lecture on the topic of his choice right there in the Oval Office, in bathrobe and slippers.
It will get him off the other channels so we can watch something relevant while giving the disciples a source for continuous worship.
Who do we call about this?

IndieDogg on September 15, 2009 at 12:48 PM

Already done. MSNBC.

TXUS on September 15, 2009 at 12:56 PM

Does today’s “alleged” Acorn admitted murderer on biggovernment.com today count? dthorny on September 15, 2009 at 12:54 PM

Haven’t seen it yet but heard Glenn mention it. A buddy just told me that the ACORN gal mentions having killed her husband, but he didn’t know if she was convicted of it.

Look for state-owned Obamagraphers to begin trying to run their own sting ops in pro-life rescue offices etc.

Akzed on September 15, 2009 at 12:59 PM

Fighton03: Sounds like a tea party…..

U-Maryland is Steny Hoyer country. But even Hoyer got a blasted in August town halls.

I think Obama’s 3rd visit to campus isn’t going to be all wine and roses, judging from the student newspaper’s comments threads.

Dan: Everybody yell “You Lie” during his speech…..hahahahaha

tina: Oh boy! I can’t wait to not go to this!

Terp Mole on September 15, 2009 at 1:00 PM

Blatantblue

I agree with you. I am in the same group. It’s like they all have an entitlement mentality. Even illegals. WTF?!!! Is it in the water?

meMC on September 15, 2009 at 1:00 PM

What’s next?
More Obama on TV! This Sunday he is going wall to wall on every talk show.

albill on September 15, 2009 at 1:04 PM

Why wouldn’t he? Ted Baxter Bill O’Reilly certainly wouldn’t ask him anything that would offend or pressure him. He didn’t the first time and I’m sure he would be even more of a l!mpdick this time.

CC

CapedConservative on September 15, 2009 at 12:30 PM

That was the last time I bothered with BOR! He did everything but offer to wipe Barry’s nose for him.

anniekc on September 15, 2009 at 1:06 PM

It’s game over, anyways. Fed’s been trying to stop deflation since end of last year. Didn’t work. Game over.

lorien1973 on September 15, 2009 at 12:17 PM

Yep. Part of the master plan to take us down. What more proof do people need?

marklmail on September 15, 2009 at 1:06 PM

The whole Obama closing/sales skills is a big myth. Obama barely beat Hillary in the primaries, only needing the superdelagates to push him over the finish line using the race card.

Hillary beat the pants off him in all of the important states – TX, PA, OH, MI, FL, CA, NY, etc….Obama, to his credit, played the caucas states right to stay alive, then went after the supers at the end.

McCain came very close to beating him, even after running a horrible campaign.

We elected him because of ‘history’ and his ability to speak, in which the country was looking forward to someone who could string together some sentences without stammering (GW, McCain).

It is no surprise to me that he has not been able to sell this pig over on the American people. The thing we should all fear is the simple math. They have the votes if they want to go nuke. At the end of the day, I believe they will go nuke and pass this, whether we like it or not.

tatersalad on September 15, 2009 at 1:07 PM

This one about ACORN helping to shape his agenda? Can’t wait to see his child prostitution plan and how gold from Fort Know will be buried in a tin in his backyard.

WashJeff on September 15, 2009 at 12:50 PM

I was thinking about a companion video to the often published photo of Obama at the chalkboard diagramming organizational strategies.

singer on September 15, 2009 at 1:08 PM

I don’t think I’ve heard enough about his plan to have made an informed decision yet. I hope he gives several more speeches about it.

PatMac on September 15, 2009 at 1:10 PM

Yet he’s going out and talk about it again this Sunday. I suspect that people are becoming so used to his constant presence that few are tuning in anymore and if they are, beginnng to see his words as suspect and propaganda. Even many political junkies are tuning him out on TV because they know it will just be more of the same. He seems to think that he can talk himself and everyone else into or out of what ever he pleases….now where did he ever get that idea?

jeanie on September 15, 2009 at 1:11 PM

What’s next? Either ObamaCare has to change, or Obama has to change. Thus far, Obama has given no real hint that either will.

Once the halo is severed, it drops to the ground, slowly.

Schadenfreude on September 15, 2009 at 1:18 PM

It’s the Corruption, Stupid!

kirkill on September 15, 2009 at 1:19 PM

I vote he goes on Glenn Beck. Into the belly of the beast, so to speak….

mjk on September 15, 2009 at 1:21 PM

How the hell did it drop that much over night?

He really must have sucked Sunday.

Chuck Schick on September 15, 2009 at 1:22 PM

It is no surprise to me that he has not been able to sell this pig over on the American people. The thing we should all fear is the simple math. They have the votes if they want to go nuke. At the end of the day, I believe they will go nuke and pass this, whether we like it or not.

tatersalad on September 15, 2009 at 1:07 PM

I agree with Steele. They have the seats. Stop whining and do it. I dare you.

It’ll be the last thing they ever do. Can you say recall? I thought you could.

Blacksmith8 on September 15, 2009 at 1:23 PM

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