Breaking: Major terror bust in New York City? Update: Ideology “aligned with Al Qaeda”; Update: WMD concerns
posted at 4:21 pm on September 14, 2009 by Allahpundit
Maybe it’s because I live so close to where it’s going down, but the early details on this one make me uneasy.
New York Police Department spokesman Paul Browne confirmed that searches were conducted in the borough of Queens by agents of a joint terrorism task force. He would not discuss the matter further…
Two U.S. intelligence officials, who requested anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the case publicly, said the target of any purported attack — or who would carry it out — remained unclear.
Authorities have not found any weapons ready for use — such as a bomb — that would indicate an attack was imminent, they said. Nevertheless, one of the officials called the threat very real and emphasized the urgency of the threat.
They’ve just started briefing “a series of senior lawmakers in Congress.” Is that normal for U.S. intel in an average terror bust — to grab hold of the congressional leadership and get them up to speed ASAP?
Some mighty interesting timing to this, too. Stand by for updates.
Update: One possibility that occurs to me: Was this a plot against Obama? He was in downtown Manhattan today for his speech at Federal Hall and lunch with Bill Clinton.
Update: A few new details from CBS:
WCBS TV’s John Slattery reports the federal search warrant spelled out all manner of possible bomb-making components, including powders, gels, TNT, and fuses…
Building resident Assad Niazi told WCBS, “I don’t know [the other residents]. They are roommates – they go to work in the morning, and at night they come back.”
Update: Ace points to this ABC News video from Friday on counterterrorism in NYC noting that the cops are paying close attention to Iranian-backed Hezbollah agents these days. No surprise, either: If Israel attacks Iran, U.S. intel will expect instant reprisal attacks here from Iranian proxies and will have to move quickly to roll them up. Doesn’t mean that’s related to today’s bust but it’s worth noting.
Update: Schumer tells the AP that the plot was unrelated to Obama’s visit and that nothing was “imminent.” Good luck distinguishing that from the law enforcement claim that the threat was “urgent.”
Update: Not sure if “aligned with Al Qaeda” means jihadist generally or linked to AQ specifically, but here you go:
A senior law enforcement official said authorities had not detected a specific plot or target of any planned attack, but had uncovered a small group of people who espoused a militant ideology aligned with Al Qaeda and whose activities had aroused enough suspicion to obtain warrants for the searches and arrests, which began late Sunday night.
The official said authorities had only a hazy view of the group, its operations and goals, but decided to act fearing that undercover surveillance had failed to detect plans that might be developing.
Update: More bits and pieces. Did they jump too soon?
FBI agents have been monitoring a man from the western part of the U.S. who had recently driven to New York, federal sources said. The man met with several people in Queens, and the activities aroused enough suspicion to obtain warrants for the searches, the sources said.
The man the FBI had been watching has since flown home and is not in custody, the sources said.
Update: No wonder they were briefing congressional leaders.
[A senior official] said some counterterrorism officials were concerned that the individual at the center of the investigation may have had access to, or an interest in acquiring, materials that could be used for a chemical, biological or radiological device. One aspect of the probe involves whether the person had some contact or connections with suspicious individuals overseas, the official said. He stressed that the investigation was still at its earliest stages.
Law-enforcement officials are aware of the person’s whereabouts, but the individual isn’t in custody, according to the senior official. Items taken in the searches were still being processed and sorted through early Monday afternoon, the official said.
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ACORN chronicles continue unabated. Its become a mini series.
Geochelone on September 14, 2009 at 5:38 PM
Yes. Me, too. Are we in for an October surprise?
GrannyDee on September 14, 2009 at 5:38 PM
Nah. Unitarians, they believe in anything [and everything]. ;)
CPT. Charles on September 14, 2009 at 5:39 PM
It’s a great time for a remake of Shaft.
Buy Danish on September 14, 2009 at 5:39 PM
Huh? Liberals love terrorists. Everyone knows it. Whether that applies TO YOU is something else, but it is true of liberals.
The rest of your post was nothing but a wacky distraction to not have to address the fact that DHS called conservatives and Constitutionalists “terrorists” but warned their people not to use that term for jihadis and the people who support the jihad. I guess there’s no point in you trying to slink the liberals out of what they say and what everyone knows they are.
And you don’t like to update us on the liberals’ CIA witch hunt. Why not? Are you not proud of the liberals foaming at the mouth to decimate our spy and interrogation capabilities? Or, are you against the special prosecutor looking into the awful crimes of getting hardened jihadis to spill the info they have?
progressoverpeace on September 14, 2009 at 5:40 PM
Hmmmm….now I thought once THE ONE was elected and completed his apology tour all would be right in the world and no one would hate us anymore, so why the need to pray AnninCA? I mean after all according to the left all we had to do was apologize to the world for all the mean and terrible things we’ve done, then we can all hold hands and sing koom-baya…!
Well praying is good and all AnninCA but the fact remains this administration being run by liberal dems is taking us back to a pre-9-11 mentality when it comes to doing what is necessary and prudent to protecting our nation and its citizens and this administration doing so will cost us dearly, it’s only a matter of time because you see AnninCA fascist Islam is much like the Terminator, it cannot be negotiated with, it cannot be appeased, it does not feel pity or remorse, it doesn’t give a rats azz about the rule of law or human rights, fascist Islam only wants all those THEY BELIEVE TO BE INFIDELS (that would be you, me and the entire western world) to be DEAD!!!
Just as the verse from the Zep song When the Levee Breaks says “crying won’t help you, prayin’ won’t do you no good” praying will help about as much as being in denial of what fascist Islam is all about, something the left is stillin denial about!
As long as the left keeps denying the truth and continues to mischaracterize the necessary tools that are needed to continue to keep us safe; such as the Patriot Act, GITMO, and/or enhanced interrogation techniques as being “unconstitutional” and “evil” and “war crimes” we will not be safe like we were under Bush and our being hit again is inevitable!
If you really want to help keep us safe from fascist Islam perhaps you can start by getting you and your liberal lefty buddies to not distract and punish (e.g., the “torture” witch hunt against the CIA) those that are working hard to protect you and me from the task at hand with all of your lefty “war crimes” and “torture” and “unconstitutional” political/ideological BS memes so the adults can to continue to utilize the Patriot Act and enhanced interrogation to protect the US and its people from the fascist Islam animals that could give a rats azz about the rule of law or human rights, and especially could care less about you or me!
One question for you AnninCA, is it now ok support the Patriot Act and enhanced interrogation techniques, Gitmo, et al now that THE ONE is POTUS and not Bush?
Just curious…
Liberty or Death on September 14, 2009 at 5:40 PM
I notice you are afraid to answer progress’s assertion that your side of the aisle doesn’t like to call them terrorists. Can you prove his statement wrong?
Del Dolemonte on September 14, 2009 at 5:41 PM
angryed on September 14, 2009 at 5:32 PM
Damn, you beat me to it. BRAVO. STFU BB!!! The best thing that you can do while living in DC is find the handle and flush for your country. It is your doodie!!!!
milwife88 on September 14, 2009 at 5:41 PM
Liberals seem to have a built-in aversion to the projection of American power. I’d disagree with them on the degree with which America needs to be proactive internationally.
dedalus on September 14, 2009 at 5:41 PM
Oh. vlad seems to have grown much nastier in the later days, there. I didn’t remember him being that bad, just annoying.
progressoverpeace on September 14, 2009 at 5:44 PM
Acorns roasting on an open fire
Glenn Beck punching them in the nose
Situation for them looks dire
And Obama folks all looking like big schmoes
MB4 on September 14, 2009 at 5:45 PM
You live In DC, and terrorism isn’t an abstraction for you?
Take a walk in Trinidad area at night and get back to us Bleeds Blue Kool-Aid.
portlandon on September 14, 2009 at 5:45 PM
Back about 8 years ago I e-mailed Bill Keller of the NY Fishwrap with a few questions, noting that I had as a former NYC resident been a daily reade rof the paper since the mid 1960s.
To my surprise, he e-mailed me back, and graciously answered all of my questions except for 1.
The one he refused to answer?
“For decades, your paper used the word Terrorist regularly on the front page to describe murderous acts by the bad folks who want to hurt us. Suddenly, in the mid 1990s, the T word disappeared from your paper. Why did you stop calling them that?”.
Del Dolemonte on September 14, 2009 at 5:46 PM
Not sure what set him off.
Del Dolemonte on September 14, 2009 at 5:47 PM
You are an idiot. The DHS report —
– did not in any way lump all right wiongers into a terrorist boat. It merely said that there are some wackos out there, who might be enraged enough by immigrants, black presidents and unfounded fears of gun control to do something stupid. And there are. Also, it was commissioned by the Bush Administration, hardly a liberal bastion.
And you’re in favor of secret aganecies being unaccountable for possible crimes and violations? You think Obama’s agencies should be above the law, too?
And, yeah. We’re America. we have to hold ourselves to the highest standards — that means obeying laws, Constitution and international agreements, even when it’s inconvenient. Because when we stop doing that, we stop being America.
You talk big but your a pulsing mass of fear.
Bleeds Blue on September 14, 2009 at 5:47 PM
When I heard the news about the raid, this article came to mind. It is worth the read:
Is another 9/11 set to unfold?
By Lee Benson
Deseret News
Published: Saturday, Sept. 5, 2009 9:32 p.m. MDT
Earlier this year, quite by happenstance, I read a book written by Pulitzer Prize-winning reporter James B. Stewart.
“Heart of a Soldier” tells the story of two men who, well before it happened, foretold not only of the terrorist attack of 9/11 but also the 1993 bombing in the World Trade Center parking garage that preceded it.
One of the men, Rick Rescorla, was chief of security for Morgan Stanley with an office in the World Trade Center. He died on 9/11, but not before he shepherded all but six of Morgan Stanley’s 2,700 employees to safety because of a well-prepared and well-executed evacuation plan. He’d have made it out, too, had he not gone back in the building looking for those six.
The other man, Daniel J. Hill, is still alive.
With another Sept. 11 approaching I wanted to talk to The Man Who Predicted 9/11.
Although the primary focus in Stewart’s book is on Rescorla — a bona fide hero for his actions on 9/11 — I found Hill to be an even more fascinating character.
It was Hill who converted to Islam as a young U.S. Army paratrooper stationed in Beirut in 1958. It was Hill who learned fluent Arabic. It was Hill who joined the Mujahedeen Freedom Fighters in Afghanistan and fought the Soviet invasion there in the 1980s. It was Hill who personally met Osama bin Laden. It was Hill who used information from Islamic extremists to warn Rescorla that terrorists would use the underground parking garage for a car bomb attack on the World Trade Center. It was Hill who asked the U.S. government to assist him in an assassination attempt on bin Laden in 1998 (the request was rejected). And it was Hill who warned the FBI just weeks before Sept. 11, 2001, that his Mideast contacts told him “something big” was about to happen in the United States, in New York, Washington, D.C., or Philadelphia — maybe all three.
Through the Internet I managed to contact Hill at his home in Florida. He’s 71 now. I asked him if his reputation as a terrorism prognosticator without parallel has changed his life much.
“Oh, that blew over pretty fast,” he said. “Most of the people even in my hometown don’t know any of that stuff.”
He didn’t want to talk about the past. He wanted to talk about the future.
The very near future.
The man who predicted 9/11 is worried that its sequel is imminent.
“Muslims that I talk to say things like, ‘America thinks they’re safe now. They’ve forgotten about 9/11. But watch, Daniel. Stay near your TV. It’s going to be bigger than 9/11,’ ” he said.
Hill said the next terrorist attack will involve suitcase nuclear bombs that will be detonated in small, low-flying two-seater private airplanes manned by men hanging onto the belief that, like the 9/11 hijackers, they are about to die as martyrs and enter paradise.
He is not alone in suggesting such a scenario. A 2007 book, “The Day of Islam,” spells out the details, as do any number of Internet sites about a plot called “American Hiroshima.”
The nukes, he said, will be detonated over New York, Washington, D.C., Chicago, Miami, Houston, Las Vegas and Los Angeles.
I asked Hill, “Why now?”
“Eight years from 1993 to 2001, eight years from that 9/11 to this 9/11,” he said. “Symbolism. They’re big on symbolism.”
“Ramadan started two weeks ago Saturday,” he said, referring to the Muslim holy month of fasting. “It always hits around Ramadan.”
Eight years ago, Hill predicted the attack would come on Oct. 16 — almost in the middle of that year’s Ramadan (the timing of Ramadan varies from year to year). He was about a month off.
“I don’t know the second, hour or day. I just know they have the means, will, motivation and desire to do it,” he said, noting that it’s believed that years ago the suitcase nukes, acquired from former USSR operatives, were smuggled into America across the Mexican border.
Hill said he has warned the FBI, the CIA and others in government. For the past two years, he’s sent out proposals for a book on the subject. All he’s gotten back are rejections.
“To most people, I am a deviant personality,” he said.
But there’s no arguing his credentials.
“I’m a Muslim,” he says. “I’m a special ops expert, I’m a terrorist and I’ve lived among Muslims. I fought the Russians with the same guys we’re now fighting in Afghanistan. I met Osama. I volunteered to assassinate him. I know (the enemy) so well because I’ve worked, slept and prayed alongside them for years. I’ve become one of them. I know their nature, I know their culture, I know how they think. I can quote the Koran like a Southern Baptist minister can quote the New Testament. I know these are people who do not tire, who do not quit. There are odds this won’t happen, but they aren’t big odds.”
“I hope you’re wrong,” I told him.
“Yeah. I hope so, too,” he said.
djn on September 14, 2009 at 5:48 PM
OMG! MILLIONS could have been killed or injured! PASS OBAMACARE NOW!
GarandFan on September 14, 2009 at 5:54 PM
I thought the terrorists liked us now. This must be a mistake.
Scrappy on September 14, 2009 at 5:56 PM
“a pulsing mass of fear”? What does that even mean? Is it supposed to be some sort of insult?
Scrappy on September 14, 2009 at 5:59 PM
Ahhh, ya beat me to it. But stop at just Billy boy? Don’t forget the rest of team Obama and the overt infestation of the DNC by other former members of the SDS/Weathermen. Both are rife with theses liberal thugs “that don’t beleive in terrorism.”
Marilyn Katz
Mark Rudd
Carl Davidson
Tom Hayden
Todd Gitlin
Howie Machtlinger
Arlene Bergman
Steve Tappis
Wade Rathke
Dale Rathke
David Fenton
Andy Stern
Jeff Jones
Jim Jacobs
Paul Booth
There are more, but it’s been a while since I wrote that article. The complete list is available through David Horowitz. But all of the above listed are SDS/Wetherman of the far left/liberal seed in the DNC, Progressives for Obama, Obama Campaign, or the other myriad forces that foisted this fraud on us.
You who made that asinine statement that libs don’t beleive in terrorism can chalk yourself up as one of the “useful idiots.”
Archimedes on September 14, 2009 at 5:59 PM
Thanks, AP. You seem to be ahead of Drudge on this one.
petefrt on September 14, 2009 at 6:01 PM
Even the Puffington Host claimed that the DHS report singled out right winger terrorists.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/14/homeland-security-report_n_186834.html
F minus
Del Dolemonte on September 14, 2009 at 6:04 PM
All of a sudden, Obama will agree to any type of wiretapping, any interception under any circumstance of terrorist activity.
He, now that he is a target, suddenly see the wisdom of covert information…
right2bright on September 14, 2009 at 6:05 PM
I wonder what we did to make them do whatever they wanted to do.
We should really stop doing whatever that was and apologize! If we do that, then I’m sure they will stop doing whatever it was they wanted to do.
But thats only common sense. When is America going to get a major clue??
Itchee Dryback on September 14, 2009 at 6:07 PM
So you finally agree, less federal intervention, and more state rights?
I doubt you actually believe what you write…
right2bright on September 14, 2009 at 6:08 PM
I laughed at that also…I have no idea what that means, but I am sure there is an insult in there somewhere.
This is why we will win the war with liberals, they say “pulsing mass of fear”, and we just call them idiots. They can’t even insult us without sounding like an idiot…
right2bright on September 14, 2009 at 6:12 PM
No, it does believe it. Sad, isn’t it?
BTW yesterday the NY Times Drama Critic wrote a laughable op-ed piece claiming that Bush ignored the 9/11 plot, which was in Frankie’s warped world completely conceived of and trained for in the 8 months after Chimpy took office. But B*tch never tells us what Chimpy could have done to prevent those attacks.
Del Dolemonte on September 14, 2009 at 6:12 PM
Dumbass. I was in Boston on 9/11. You know the place where 2/4 9/11 flights originated. I was friends with someone whose cousin was on one of the planes. I personally flew on one the exact flights BOS-LAX 10-12 times that year as I was working on a project in SoCal. I very well could have been on that flight if the project had gone on a little bit longer. One of my co-workers was at the WTC on 9/11. Nobody knew where he was for the whole morning and we all assumed the worst. My parents couldn’t get a hold of me initially since I was in a meeting and had my cell phone turned off. They never really know where I am any given day since I travel as often as I do. All they knew was that I fly a lot and from Boston and sometimes I go to NY and sometimes I go to California and they too assumed the worst, because that’s what parents do. And when my mom finally did get a hold of me she was crying.
So go f**k yourself and your holier than thou bullshit.
Mmmmkay?
angryed on September 14, 2009 at 6:14 PM
In the interest of objectivity, I should note that the Puff-Ho article I link to was not written by one of their raving diarists.
It was a direct cite of an Associated Press story.
Del Dolemonte on September 14, 2009 at 6:16 PM
Allah’s ever probing proboscis has given him near complete omniscience.
Geochelone on September 14, 2009 at 6:18 PM
Uh, no, the threat levels have been at the lowest setting for months now. The threat levels are posted in the Staten Island Ferry terminal.
Probably screaming red right now.
And yes, NYC works with the Feds, but doesn’t depend on them because by the time the Feds get the info to us, it could be too late.
Mommynator on September 14, 2009 at 6:19 PM
Hey Mr. smart guy “Look at me I live in DC.” You might want to take a refresher grammar course. You’d think an intellectual such as yourself – who lives in the cradle of civilization no less – would know that your and you’re are separate words with separate meaning. And no this is not a spelling mistake. It is a lack of knowledge of basic English grammar, making you today’s second douchiest person.
angryed on September 14, 2009 at 6:22 PM
I’m sure it’s already been said, but are these people Democrats?
rbj on September 14, 2009 at 6:24 PM
It certainly tried its best. And to compare their analysis of Constitutionalists, who have the law on their side, with morons like ELF who run around blowing things up is crazy. Lefties love terrorism.
LOL. This is another instance where a lefty (I can assume you’re a lefty?) denies something that the adminstration had to rescind. Too funny. You guys love that maneuver. It doesn’t exist … but we’re taking it out, anyway.
It was not a Bush piece. It came from this administration. You probably think that Bush told the Missouri cops to issue their warning about threatening bumper stickers, too. You’re nuts, man.
The instances were all previously investigated. But, then, liberals wanted to try the whole Bush administration, so I guess that would be your answer to that. You people are like a third world junta. No wonder you all support Zelaya’s attempted coup.
No. I think The Precedent and much of his administration belong in jail. This nation has seen action by this adminstration that is unprecedented in American history … North American history.
“international agreements”? Like the ridiculously unrealistic Geneva Conventions that no one in the world has ever followed? Is that what youmean? You know that our strategic nuclear arsenal, designed to instantly incinerate tens of millions of men, women, children, and pets stands in contravention to the Geneva Conventions. Do you think we should unilaterally dismantle it, to be in full compliance?
You people pick and choose ridiculous pieces from international treaties and go after Americans with them. It is nothing less than attacking the US, which is what liberals are all about. Just listen to The Precedent and he’ll tell you all about how bad and evil America is. But you know, already. Don’t you?
Yes. We were not America in WWII, when we incinerated whole cities. What country were we? Do you think we were mirandizing non-americans on foreign soil? No … that’s a new attack on America by the left. You guys can’t find enough ways to weaken our military.
Okay. You nailed me. At least you say that I pulse. That’s gotta be worth something.
progressoverpeace on September 14, 2009 at 6:24 PM
I’m waiting to see how many of these suspects are of the returning soldier variety of terrorist. The Secretary of DHS has yet to apologize or justify her smearing the troops and she still has her job. Now is the perfect time to press the whore on this issue if, as I suspect, not one of those caught up in today’s raid has had anything to do with the military.
highhopes on September 14, 2009 at 6:26 PM
That’s an insult to the terrorists.
angryed on September 14, 2009 at 6:26 PM
You missed my point, he said he have to believe in the constitution, and I challenged him on that.
Of course liberals don’t believe what they say in public…they use phrases like “follow the constitution” or “defend it”, but then they do everything to undermine it, deny freedom of speech, or right of gun ownership.
He stated one thing, but we all know he believes another…Senator Wilson knows the right word for them…
right2bright on September 14, 2009 at 6:27 PM
ACORN clients who were able to purchase their house with advice from the local office as to how to hide bomb-making activities in the backyard.
highhopes on September 14, 2009 at 6:28 PM
May Obama be the only one to reap the rewards of his terrorism-coddling follies.
More ice cream, Mr. Uighur?
More freed Gitmo thugs returning to the battlefield?
Thank Barry.
profitsbeard on September 14, 2009 at 6:28 PM
Good catch.
I would also add some other “international agreements” that the Leftists had no trouble with ignoring. Like the numerous sanctions against Saddam Hussein?
BB is having a bad day.
Del Dolemonte on September 14, 2009 at 6:29 PM
I’m the only BB here!
blatantblue on September 14, 2009 at 6:29 PM
LOL, my bad.
I’ll change it to BS instead.
Del Dolemonte on September 14, 2009 at 6:30 PM
One is enough. :)
Geochelone on September 14, 2009 at 6:30 PM
I have the same feeling about that poster…however, when posting an idea, I would rather someone get the idea out, and not be too concerned about grammar.
When posting we all make those minor mistakes, like speling a word rong.
But what is important, is his foolish ideas, and his lies…but then look who he is following…
right2bright on September 14, 2009 at 6:31 PM
When liberals say “Constitution”, they don’t mean the whole document, just a few of the amendments and only to be used in liberal-approved contexts. The rest of the document they don’t even bother with.
progressoverpeace on September 14, 2009 at 6:31 PM
Barney Frank needs to head (no pun intended) the interrogations!
WhatsRight on September 14, 2009 at 6:31 PM
Oh STFU about “living with terrorism” on a daily basis because you are a resident of DC. I live in Arlington and see all the same things you do but that isn’t the point. You are not living in Baghdad. You are not in danger of getting blown up in a pizza parlor like a resident of Tel Aviv. You are in no more danger of being involved with a terrorist attack than, say, a resident of Shanksville, PA.
highhopes on September 14, 2009 at 6:33 PM
Y’all do what you want
I’ll just have to get used to another BB here.
—
wonder if there’s any connection to Farooq masjid
blatantblue on September 14, 2009 at 6:33 PM
Yes!!
I know BB, I have read his posts, and bleeds blue is no BB…
*
And Tommy Lasorda would be pretty upset to have you steal his name…but then stealing someone else’s identity is perfect for a liberal
right2bright on September 14, 2009 at 6:33 PM
Come on, admit it, you so did intend it! :-0
highhopes on September 14, 2009 at 6:35 PM
Exactly, you have to ask them, just what document are the actually referencing…on second though don’t ask, they will just tell a lie.
right2bright on September 14, 2009 at 6:35 PM
I don’t care usually. But when someone like him (her?) portrays him/her self to be above and beyond everyone else, you have to call that crap out.
angryed on September 14, 2009 at 6:39 PM
Thanks, Del. Liberal abuse of the Geneva Conventions has been pet peeve of mine for a long time. I can’t stand people who think that international treaties are like international law, instead of whole contracts that must be adhered to in their entirety, especially if they have no actual enforcement/punishment mechanisms, or are rendered void.
Wait until the liberals figure out that all spy organizations are designed to specifically go out and violate the laws of other countries. They’re going to be really mad about that. “The CIA picked a lock in Amsterdam? PROSECUTE THEM ALL!!!”
That’ll leave a mark.
Just like all his other days. It’s the US’ fault that his life sucks!! He still hasn’t recovered from the Dresden firebombing. He wants FDR and Truman dug up and brought to trial for the war criminals that the left argues they must have been. That wasn’t America! – runs through Bleeds Blue’s mind …
progressoverpeace on September 14, 2009 at 6:41 PM
I dig that theme song
Madison Square Garden
NY Knicks
Frazier and the Pearl
Warmin’ up to Shaft.
Geochelone on September 14, 2009 at 6:47 PM
Well this has to be complete nonsense. Everyone knows you have to have a whole country (like Afghanistan) to make such plans in. Whoever the mysterious disenfranchised grievance ridden lost extremists are and whatever their misbegotten, misinterpreted ideas are, it can’t be serious. We have been drilled over and over in the facts. Islam is too sacred and is to be respected not suspected. Muslims are victims, not perpetrators.
Now go back to sleep.
BL@KBIRD on September 14, 2009 at 6:56 PM
Hey,obama,go round’em up and have a beer with them!
ohiobabe on September 14, 2009 at 6:57 PM
ty.
I knew it was lower but there was no way for me to prove it.
upinak on September 14, 2009 at 6:57 PM
Funny thing about the UN sanctions against Iraq was that the Left had absolutely no problem with Iraq ignoring them-even though many of them were the direct result of surrender documents signed by Iraq after we liberated Kuwait-another military action many on the Left opposed.
They had no problem with Saddam’s troops raping and killing, and had absolutely no problem with those same troops setting all of those oil wells on fire and dumping all those millions of barrels of oil into a marine ecosystem.
Yet at the same time, they regularly condemned the evil Joos in Israel for ignoring UN sanctions.
Del Dolemonte on September 14, 2009 at 7:00 PM
Unfortunately the leftists will never get a clue. This war has been going on since about 700 AD when the leader of it all stopped loving his nine year old bride long enough to declare jihad on the world.
We need leaders like Jan III Sobieski whom the jihadists feared with every fiber of their bodies, not the jug eared Nevil Chamberlain that doofus americanus put into our white hhouse. BTW Sobieski was not against muslims, just jihadists. His life was saved by one of his Tatar (Muslim) troops at the battle of Parkinay which was right after he crushed the Turks at Vienna and killed about 20,000 of them plus another 15-20 thousand at Parkinay.
Anyway, under this administration it isn’t a matter of IF, but WHEN we will suffer another strike. I listened to a speech by a former SECNAV discussing the possiblities and didn’t sleep right for a couple of days. I almost NEVER have problems like that.
We are playing for keeps and the leftists are playing “Junior commie camp”
bullseye on September 14, 2009 at 7:01 PM
Considering every obvious terrorist bust is dismissed as “no big deal,” that they’re actually calling this a terrorist threat is pretty huge.
amkun on September 14, 2009 at 7:03 PM
Purely idiotic
CWforFreedom on September 14, 2009 at 7:07 PM
Ughh. For the gubmit, even this one, to trump up something like that… too ugly… unthinkable.
petefrt on September 14, 2009 at 7:11 PM
Schumer, being interviewed about it just now on FNC, looked pretty nervous. Lots of facial tics and twitches. Not as smooth [a liar] as usual.
petefrt on September 14, 2009 at 7:14 PM
I don’t know what you are full of but I sure want to be upwind of it.
Nice Suburban Communities??? I drove by and FBI armored vehicle in our neighborhood the other day and they sure as heck weren’t stopping for $tarbucks. I never did find out what was going on but a vehicle that is 50 cal and 20mm resistant makes me nervous when it’s in my neighnorhood.
Also, as a typical liberal, you probably have very little understanding of the military and terrorist thought. There was evidence that the jihadis were practicing on schoolbusses. Ever heard of Beslan?? The typical terrorist looks for the softest targets possible. They are like the pita freaks who throw paint on old ladies for wearing fur but would never have the male genitalia to throw paint on a bunch of bikers for wearing leather (Yep, I’m comparing liberals to terrorists, how bout that??)
Also, as a liberal, you probably have no idea of the effect of various nukes detonated at various altitudes or the things that can be added to poison the landscape for millenia. I’m in one of those ‘suburban communities you scoff at’. True a 10k airburst at 5000 feet might not have an immediate effect on me. However, my family would be at risk from the fallout depending on how dirty the explosion was and the prevailing winds.
The difference between liberals and conservatives/libertarians is that the latter of us
1. have a much clearer understanding of the psychological and physical threat
2. We know who the real enemies are and it ain’t Joe Wilson Einstein
3. We believe in taking care of ourselves, not waiting for nanny government to help us. Your conservative neighbors are the ones with the bug out bags, the ones who don’t have the metrosexual skills like getting manicures and pedicures but who know how to cook and kill game.
4. The election of Obmamama has done more to put us at risk than anything else could have. Liberals forget history like Neville chamberlain and a certain charismatic leader. Appeasement doesn’t work. That mistake was paid for in billions of gallons of blood.
Let’s suppose as an intellectual exercise the jihadis do pull the old ‘suitcase nuke in small airplanes stunt’ off? What do you think Obama will do?? I can tell you. He will clamp down on the citizens of the US. He will NOT go after the jihadists in any meaningful way.
We need to go back to a version of MAD. ie. “Hey you jihadist mongrels. if you try that Crud here, we will ladder strike the middle east until every one of your cities is razed to the point where a 10 Millimeter high hill will be an anomoly”. “If you try a Beslan Style attack we will hunt the perps and their families down and butcher them.”
We need Machiavelli, Sobieski, Churchill and Martel. Instead we got the Chicago thug machine. At least the Chicago machine was effective in whacking the witness against Blago to protect Ozero.
Have a nice day :))
bullseye on September 14, 2009 at 7:19 PM
Let’s seeeeeeeeeee.
Obama, and crew down play the seriousness of this, in order to make way for a major attack, or crisis. Thus letting the door open to do a massive take over.
I know, I know. I’m paranoid
capejasmine on September 14, 2009 at 7:37 PM
let’s see if holder allows prosecution…..
UNREPENTANT CONSERVATIVE CAPITOLIST on September 14, 2009 at 7:47 PM
Hopenchange
The more things change, the more they remain the same. Terrorists still try to mass murder Americans.
Who would have guessed?
HellCat on September 14, 2009 at 8:05 PM
Allah’s a Queens guy. Alllright. Let’s meet for a beer and wings st happy hour at First Edition on Bell Blvd. I’ll buy.
Oh the anti terrorist task force also has its HQ in an area of Queens not 20 minutes from the arrest scene. The pics on Channel 4 showed several women in full head to toe,not burkha, garb being led away by authorities. I’ve got a few contacts in the NYPD and I’ll try to get the skinny.
xkaydet65 on September 14, 2009 at 8:18 PM
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What? It was not Baptists after all? I’m shocked. Shocked I tell you. I hope this does not refelct poorly on Islam. Some people might get the wrong idea and think it was Muslims who commit these acts; although I don’t think they will read that in the newspaper.
MikeA on September 14, 2009 at 8:20 PM
OK then, how about wondering if any of them are of the released-from-Gitmo variety?
MikeA on September 14, 2009 at 8:24 PM
What do you mean unthinkable? The Obama administration has already made that claim.
highhopes on September 14, 2009 at 8:24 PM
This keeps ACORN off the top of the page.
faraway on September 14, 2009 at 8:28 PM
Ed (or should I call you Mr. Angry)
Boston?
Or one of the suburbs?
(not challenging – just finding out if I have a like-minded neighbor.)
massrighty on September 14, 2009 at 8:30 PM
Yeah. Typical for the left. They want the heads of Exxon execs, when Exxon never wanted to have their oil spilled (as they lose the money and have to pay for the clean up) but Saddam goes out of his way to become the greatest “eco-terrorist” in history, all as he was being allowed to retreat in one of the most humiliating defeats of all time, and that same left has nothing to say about it. I used to tell lefties that they should want Saddam out more than anyone, if they really believed their own claims of caring about the environment. But, most lefties didn’t care what Saddam did and most probably don’t even remeber the gulf spill (4 times the size of the Valdez spill and only kept from being bigger because our troops stopped the flow) or the burning Kuwaiti fields. Meanwhile, they go apesh!t if I want to light up a cigarette.
In an interesting related note, just after the first gulf war, Kuwait ejected 400,000 Palestinians, because Arafat supported Saddam. But no one ever heard of that because the media was concentrating on 212 Hamas members that Israel ejected, temporarily, and were living on the Lebanese border with something like 500 members of the media.
The despicable, lying nature of the left is really something to behold. It’s amazing they can live with themselves, but not such a big surprise considering that they are emotional basket cases who would be more at home in an insane asylum than free on the street.
progressoverpeace on September 14, 2009 at 8:32 PM
They look for penumbrae, and hidden meanings – and ignore the actual words.
Like standing in a puddle, with a dowsing rod, looking for water.
massrighty on September 14, 2009 at 8:34 PM
Do you think this has anything to do with trying to improve Obama’s poll numbers? That is why they are jumping the gun and they will not likely get the really big fish behind these guys, if any. They will get Miranda rights, good tax payer paid lawyers and probably sue the government and will get a truly heart felt apology from Obama.
immigrantchick on September 14, 2009 at 8:35 PM
progressoverpeace on September 14, 2009 at 6:24 PM
I don’t know about you but, if I were a guy and refered to as a “big pulsing mass” of anything I’d be bragging like a big dog.
Why does the song “just a swinging” come to mind?
milwife88 on September 14, 2009 at 8:36 PM
Heh, heh. I’ll keep that in mind for the next time Bleeds throws that description my way – which shouldn’t take more than a few days.
progressoverpeace on September 14, 2009 at 8:39 PM
If there is another terror attack Obama is the first one that needs to pay the price.
elduende on September 14, 2009 at 8:51 PM
Well it is to the ostrich in the White House. And you voted for him, you cretin.
atheling on September 14, 2009 at 8:53 PM
Cambridge actually. Yes, I know.
angryed on September 14, 2009 at 8:54 PM
ugh.
blatantblue on September 14, 2009 at 8:54 PM
Yawn..weren’t these people the ones proudly on display on Obama’s official web site just before the election?
Jeff from WI on September 14, 2009 at 8:55 PM
DING DING DING DING DING DING
angryed on September 14, 2009 at 8:56 PM
not one bit.
blatantblue on September 14, 2009 at 8:56 PM
A friend of Khalidi?
progressoverpeace on September 14, 2009 at 8:57 PM
Btw why is this front page news but the arrest of the Lackawana terror suspects and the Ft Dix suspects barely was mentioned in the MSM? It has nothing to do with the president right BlatantMoron?
angryed on September 14, 2009 at 8:58 PM
Wy would the Unitarians plan a terrorist attack just for that?
MikeA on September 14, 2009 at 8:59 PM
what the f*ck is your problem?
oops
i forgot your name is angryed
yes you let anger blind any sensibilities you might have once had.
blatantblue on September 14, 2009 at 9:00 PM
funny
islamic terrorism is a huge, serious problem
then it happens under Obama and it’s all just a conspiracy to up poll numbers.
blatantblue on September 14, 2009 at 9:01 PM
Janet Napolitano will have to give AP a talking down tomorrow. They used the word terrorism. And IIRC according to that sow from Arizona, there is no such thing as a terrorist (aside from right wing ones of course).
angryed on September 14, 2009 at 9:01 PM
Ochimpy….Making all the mistakes Carter made without the charm of Carter.
csdeven on September 14, 2009 at 9:04 PM
The world according to libs:
2005: Terrorism is nothing but a Bush made myth.
2009: Terrorism is a very important issue. Thank goodness Uncle Barry is keeping us safe.
angryed on September 14, 2009 at 9:04 PM
2002: Hillary Clinton: We have to invade Iraq to stop him from getting nukes
2004: Hillary Clinton: Going to Iraq was the worst idea ever.
We have always been at war with Eastasia.
angryed on September 14, 2009 at 9:05 PM
This is just another blatant attempt by the Obama regime to exploit the September 11th man-caused disasters and perpetuate the climate of fear as a distraction to keep the public’s attention from the mounting death toll in the overseas contingency operation in Afghanistan. I’m certain that the patriot Cindy Sheehan is setting up a roadside card table this very moment…
Chickyraptor on September 14, 2009 at 9:06 PM
Nope, not funny at all. Jugears Ozero has shown his contempt of this country and disregard for it’s safety repeatedly. Let’ throw a couple of things out. I’m sure others can add to this list
1. He grabbed his package instead of saluting during the national anthem.. That might seem like a small thing (pun intented) But it does speak volumes
2. His preacher of 20 years repeatedly yelled “GOD D*MN AMERICA”.. yep, gives me the warm fuzzies
3. He deliberatley sought out marxist professors according to his own admission
4. He was more than casually involved with Billy Bomber Ayers… A guy who trampled on the American flag and whose group planned the cold blooded murder of noncoms and their dates.. THAT speaks volumes
5. He flipped the bird to our closest allies and a short time later bowed to the islamic Saudi King to the point where it looked like he was knob gobbling the king
6. He allowed his campaign to deliberately mock a war hero’s wounds.
7. He ignored the prayer breakfast but happily celebrated Ramadan.. Nothing to see there, move along.
8. His economic policies are poised to wreck our economy. Heck, you could have taken any of the Jihadists out of Gitmo, put a suit on them and stuck them in the oval office and they would have inflicted less damage on this country.
So, the argument in your statement is lame. There is no contradiction.
A. Islamic terrorism is a huge threat
B. We don’t trust ojugears to put America first and not play games with the situation for his political gain
Statements A and B are not exclusive
BTW – I seem to remember a certain president, the guy who inserted cigars into a girl a year older than his daughter, who did a Wag the Dog when he was having some PR problems.
bullseye on September 14, 2009 at 9:12 PM
But exposes Ochimpy’s foreign policy experiment as the rantings of an ignorant inexperienced fool.
It used to be that a presidents grasp of world affairs was second to only a very few people and Americans looked to him for leadership. Now here we are in the age of Ochimpy and my 16 year old nephew knew that Ochimpy’s apologies were seen as the prostrations of a coward and that the terrorists would press their attacks waiting for him to blink. Which is entirely understandable because the traitorous coward was blinking the minute they looked him in the eyes.
Don’t worry, ACORN will be back on the front page tomorrow or the next day.
csdeven on September 14, 2009 at 9:12 PM
I’d rather have your 16 year old nephew in the White House than The Precedent, any day.
progressoverpeace on September 14, 2009 at 9:15 PM
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