Breaking: Major terror bust in New York City? Update: Ideology “aligned with Al Qaeda”; Update: WMD concerns
posted at 4:21 pm on September 14, 2009 by Allahpundit
Maybe it’s because I live so close to where it’s going down, but the early details on this one make me uneasy.
New York Police Department spokesman Paul Browne confirmed that searches were conducted in the borough of Queens by agents of a joint terrorism task force. He would not discuss the matter further…
Two U.S. intelligence officials, who requested anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the case publicly, said the target of any purported attack — or who would carry it out — remained unclear.
Authorities have not found any weapons ready for use — such as a bomb — that would indicate an attack was imminent, they said. Nevertheless, one of the officials called the threat very real and emphasized the urgency of the threat.
They’ve just started briefing “a series of senior lawmakers in Congress.” Is that normal for U.S. intel in an average terror bust — to grab hold of the congressional leadership and get them up to speed ASAP?
Some mighty interesting timing to this, too. Stand by for updates.
Update: One possibility that occurs to me: Was this a plot against Obama? He was in downtown Manhattan today for his speech at Federal Hall and lunch with Bill Clinton.
Update: A few new details from CBS:
WCBS TV’s John Slattery reports the federal search warrant spelled out all manner of possible bomb-making components, including powders, gels, TNT, and fuses…
Building resident Assad Niazi told WCBS, “I don’t know [the other residents]. They are roommates – they go to work in the morning, and at night they come back.”
Update: Ace points to this ABC News video from Friday on counterterrorism in NYC noting that the cops are paying close attention to Iranian-backed Hezbollah agents these days. No surprise, either: If Israel attacks Iran, U.S. intel will expect instant reprisal attacks here from Iranian proxies and will have to move quickly to roll them up. Doesn’t mean that’s related to today’s bust but it’s worth noting.
Update: Schumer tells the AP that the plot was unrelated to Obama’s visit and that nothing was “imminent.” Good luck distinguishing that from the law enforcement claim that the threat was “urgent.”
Update: Not sure if “aligned with Al Qaeda” means jihadist generally or linked to AQ specifically, but here you go:
A senior law enforcement official said authorities had not detected a specific plot or target of any planned attack, but had uncovered a small group of people who espoused a militant ideology aligned with Al Qaeda and whose activities had aroused enough suspicion to obtain warrants for the searches and arrests, which began late Sunday night.
The official said authorities had only a hazy view of the group, its operations and goals, but decided to act fearing that undercover surveillance had failed to detect plans that might be developing.
Update: More bits and pieces. Did they jump too soon?
FBI agents have been monitoring a man from the western part of the U.S. who had recently driven to New York, federal sources said. The man met with several people in Queens, and the activities aroused enough suspicion to obtain warrants for the searches, the sources said.
The man the FBI had been watching has since flown home and is not in custody, the sources said.
Update: No wonder they were briefing congressional leaders.
[A senior official] said some counterterrorism officials were concerned that the individual at the center of the investigation may have had access to, or an interest in acquiring, materials that could be used for a chemical, biological or radiological device. One aspect of the probe involves whether the person had some contact or connections with suspicious individuals overseas, the official said. He stressed that the investigation was still at its earliest stages.
Law-enforcement officials are aware of the person’s whereabouts, but the individual isn’t in custody, according to the senior official. Items taken in the searches were still being processed and sorted through early Monday afternoon, the official said.










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Bill Ayers is just back at work.
massrighty on September 14, 2009 at 4:46 PM
Gotta sic that harmless caterpillar on them. That’ll make them squeal. Oooh, how icky and gooey! Take it off, PLEASE!
Steve Z on September 14, 2009 at 4:47 PM
I think this group of Dims will actually go so far as to deny the suspects dessert from the dinner tray if they don’t “fess up” and give details.
The horror!
FireBlogger on September 14, 2009 at 4:47 PM
I hope the senior members of congress who were briefed were not the targets of some chemical or biological agents.
fourdeucer on September 14, 2009 at 4:47 PM
You should not profile the Baptists. It might have been Methodists you know?
MikeA on September 14, 2009 at 4:48 PM
From WCBS NY
rob verdi on September 14, 2009 at 4:48 PM
Or the insidious loop of Madonna’s “Like a Virgin”.
The horror!
BobMbx on September 14, 2009 at 4:49 PM
Oh, you mean like the congresscritter (I think it was Sheila Jackson Lee) who wanted to know, during a tour of JPL, if they could drive the Mars Rover ‘over to where the Flag was planted?’
Smart power.
massrighty on September 14, 2009 at 4:49 PM
I saw the planes at about 4:15 local time.
Travis Bickle on September 14, 2009 at 4:49 PM
“Rookies.”- Bill Ayers.
portlandon on September 14, 2009 at 4:49 PM
“AIR FORCE ONE WAS BOARDED IN NEW YORK BY RADICALS INTENT ON HARMING THE UNITED STATES.”
Oh, wait….nevermind.
justltl on September 14, 2009 at 4:49 PM
Maybe he’ll just make him sit through another one of his staged campaign speeches for the millionth time.
I’d crack on hearing him say “Let me be perfectly clear . . .” one more time.
NoDonkey on September 14, 2009 at 4:49 PM
Had this happened in 2004: Bush is a fascist. And besides this whole terror thing is nothing but fearmongering by the right.
2009: Oh thank heavens for Obama. He is keeping us safe. And to think those racists wanted someone else in office.
Come on Allah, don’t fall for this leftist game.
angryed on September 14, 2009 at 4:49 PM
The administration needed something to occupy the time of the state run media to deflect from the ACORN avalanche – isn’t that what the left always accused Bush of doing?
Queen0fCups on September 14, 2009 at 4:49 PM
Thankfully, someone is still on the case.
Bru on September 14, 2009 at 4:50 PM
justltl on September 14, 2009 at 4:49 PM
QOTD +1
gatorboy on September 14, 2009 at 4:50 PM
Bin Laden AQ connection starting to look very real.
rob verdi on September 14, 2009 at 4:51 PM
LOL. I missed that one.
progressoverpeace on September 14, 2009 at 4:51 PM
And here I thought the war on terror ended when Bush left the White House and we decided to withdraw from Iraq… You mean electing one narcissist hasn’t “restored America’s moral voice in the world” causing everyone to turn their swords into ploughshares. Color me surprised
/sarc
blackrepublican on September 14, 2009 at 4:51 PM
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Oops there it is… +100
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RalphyBoy on September 14, 2009 at 4:51 PM
They didn’t watch the Cairo speech, apparently.
massrighty on September 14, 2009 at 4:52 PM
This strikes me as odd.
So they go to the apartment to find the bomb making ingredients??? How stupid is that??? They never talked to the other tenants before???
I’m calling BS
PappaMac on September 14, 2009 at 4:52 PM
Or they did.
Limerick on September 14, 2009 at 4:52 PM
Or the Quakers – no one would expect it coming from the Quakers.
Queen0fCups on September 14, 2009 at 4:52 PM
OH. So they were from Pock-ee-stan.
kingsjester on September 14, 2009 at 4:52 PM
Let’s just say that it’s in AQ’s best interests to keep Obama’s idiotic “smart power” active as U.S. policy.
Buy Danish on September 14, 2009 at 4:53 PM
I hope we have not fooled ourselves into thinking that our enemies have just quit. AS the Boss says, “Gird Your Loins”. heh
d1carter on September 14, 2009 at 4:53 PM
Let’s begin the questioning with lollipops and bubble gum to insure that we get to the bottom of it!
rjoco1 on September 14, 2009 at 4:53 PM
I’ll bet Barry is lining up the free lawyer corps for these guys as I type..
redfoxbluestate on September 14, 2009 at 4:54 PM
Is it those dang nordsky viking right-wing terrorists??
starboardhelm on September 14, 2009 at 4:54 PM
How do you know it wasn’t a manic-depressive pentecostal – like SoothSayer?
My collie says:
CyberCipher on September 14, 2009 at 4:54 PM
This just shows us that the Won can protect us from terrorists. Sorry, I meant man made contingency creators.
Kissmygrits on September 14, 2009 at 4:55 PM
Okay, you got me there.
massrighty on September 14, 2009 at 4:55 PM
Sounds like they nailed another nere do well in Somalia too.
lexhamfox on September 14, 2009 at 4:55 PM
Bring it on, you Hezbollah bast@rds. I’ve got a closet full of rifles and ammo. I’d love to demonstrate for you my well-honed marksmanship skills.
UltimateBob on September 14, 2009 at 4:55 PM
Nobody ever called Bush a fascist for arresting terrorist suspects.
We did suggest that the import of some of the arrests (those idiots in Liberty City come to mind) might have been exaggerated, however.
As someone who lives and works in Washington DC — a far more likely terrorist target than most of America — I can assure you that even liberals are against terrorists.
Bleeds Blue on September 14, 2009 at 4:56 PM
Hey, just because someone’s ancestors plundered and pillaged Europe….
[Wethal being the name of the family farm back in Norge.]
Wethal on September 14, 2009 at 4:56 PM
This is merely an attempt by the White House to influence the elections, set to occur in Nov 2010.
OBAMA: TOUGH ON DOMESTIC TERRORISTS
Groups with names such as USA, USN, USMC, USAF, etc.. have been under secret surveillance for some time, and the White House announces many arrests are imminent. Search warrants executed across the nation uncovered vast quantities of arms and ammunition, apparently being stockpiled for large, military-style operations. Pentagon spokespersons were unable to provide any response when asked how these groups came to be in possession of all the military grade hardware. They appeared dumb-founded by the news.
BobMbx on September 14, 2009 at 4:57 PM
Too bad you don’t also believe in second amendment rights. Might save your a$$ someday.
UltimateBob on September 14, 2009 at 4:57 PM
“I can assure you that even liberals are against terrorists.”
To the point where they were willing to setup a crescent “monument to peace” at the flight 92 memorial… right?
WitchDoctor on September 14, 2009 at 4:58 PM
FIFY
MikeA on September 14, 2009 at 4:59 PM
One thing you won’t hear him claim he ‘inherited:’
1.Capable law enforcement and anti-terror organizations.
2. Absence of the Gorelik ‘wall’ – making coordination of effort between law enforcement and anti-terror efforts possible.
3. Interception of overseas initiated cell traffic without FISA warrants.
In a just world, he’d be on the phone to GWB right now, thanking him.
Cheney too.
massrighty on September 14, 2009 at 4:59 PM
Get them to the new enhanced detention facility on Bermuda then force cracked crab and fruit juice on them in their beach lounge chairs till they crack like little biyatches. Unless they are white Christians. Then take them to a federal pound you in the a$$ prison, hold them without trial, and have a public executions via stoning.
Kuffar on September 14, 2009 at 4:59 PM
Okay, it ended up being three things….
massrighty on September 14, 2009 at 4:59 PM
I figured out how to get the info out of these heathens: Hummus-boarding…works every time.
Jarhead68 on September 14, 2009 at 4:59 PM
Hey! Looks like that $1 Billion given to Hezbollah for “education” is beginning to pay dividends, eh?
BobMbx on September 14, 2009 at 4:59 PM
But were they for it,….before they were against it?
portlandon on September 14, 2009 at 5:00 PM
Statement requires proof.
massrighty on September 14, 2009 at 5:00 PM
Why no NYT leaks?
Oh, right.
artist on September 14, 2009 at 5:02 PM
That’s just the kind of non-nuanced reaction I would expect from someone bitterly clinging to his closetful of guns. Really, don’t you think apologizing to them for America’s many sins in an atmosphere of mutual respect would get better results?
Um, maybe not. Lock and load.
Cicero43 on September 14, 2009 at 5:02 PM
This is good news. People are doing the job of keeping Americans safe, with or without Pelosi’s approval.
bridgetown on September 14, 2009 at 5:04 PM
Pakastani Baptists? Who knew?
MikeA on September 14, 2009 at 5:04 PM
Those who were there say it was a blitzkrieg at about 2 a.m. at an address on 41st Avenue near 144th Street.
Why so long between the bust and the rest of us finds out?
fourdeucer on September 14, 2009 at 5:05 PM
I guess these guys will be missing the National Islam Day Of Prayer scheduled for the 25th on the White House Lawn….
Ladywolfnl on September 14, 2009 at 5:05 PM
Terrorists? What terrorists? I thought Obama’s worldwide, “we’ll kiss your a**” Apology Tour took care of that.
GrannyDee on September 14, 2009 at 5:06 PM
NYC likely does more than any other city to intercept terrorists.
dedalus on September 14, 2009 at 5:06 PM
but the Republican gubernatorial candidate in Virginia (McDonnell) just got the NRA endorsement & this is supposed to be good news for the Dem candidate in the liberal areas of the state. (according to Dem blogs)
so libs don’t like guns. not even to protect themselves. too bad.
kelley in virginia on September 14, 2009 at 5:06 PM
Seriously. The idea that this was directed at the Traitor-in-Chief is a bit loopy.
progressoverpeace on September 14, 2009 at 4:46 PM
Most likely, these terrorists were preparing something to bring down an architectural structure to target something specific, an embassy or office building, or Americans in general through the subway system.
Beto Ochoa on September 14, 2009 at 5:07 PM
Is Wade Rathke of ACORN a “liberal”? How about Lisa Fithian? Anarchists who have set up this web page?:
This website intends to be a clearinghouse of information about Brandon Darby. We will continue to post more information as we can. Our goal is to spread as much information about Brandon Darby and his actions as we can in order to alert activists about this snitch, alert activists about the need for security culture within the movement and contribute as much as we can to the Stop Snitching campaign.
This is not a backlash to the White Houses fishy emails campaign.
Buy Danish on September 14, 2009 at 5:08 PM
If there brief Pelsoi they better get in ALL on tape.
MB4 on September 14, 2009 at 5:09 PM
One of us has a wire crossed; the statement that BleedsBlue made included the un-proven claim that ‘even Liberals hate terrorists.’
The fact that NYC law enforcement, military, and anti-terror personnel are successful doesn’t really prove that liberals hate terrorists. First, you’d have to prove that the majority of the above front-line warriors are liberal. I’d make a goodly wager they are, in fact, conservative.
massrighty on September 14, 2009 at 5:10 PM
Not that I’m saying your not against terrorists, but I can give you three reasons why that statement is false.
William Ayers
Bernadine Dorn
Miranda Rights
PappaMac on September 14, 2009 at 5:11 PM
1) Bush
2) Cheney
3) Rumsfeld
Chuck Schick on September 14, 2009 at 5:12 PM
How can there be terrorists when we are no longer are engaged in a “war on terror”???
huskerdiva on September 14, 2009 at 5:15 PM
Impossible. We are fighting them over there so we don’t have to fight them here.
MB4 on September 14, 2009 at 5:15 PM
Yes, we know that. That is why the current DHS Secretary is all wee weed up about all those right wing nuts out there. The difference is in who you liberals think ARE terrorists.
MikeA on September 14, 2009 at 5:15 PM
getalife.
http://www.bushwatch.com/fascism.htm
http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?sduid=0&t=1542593
http://www.earthside.com/earthside/bushs_fascist_america/
But thanks for playing!
Del Dolemonte on September 14, 2009 at 5:16 PM
Damn, you’re good!
massrighty on September 14, 2009 at 5:17 PM
Everything is a plot against Obama.
MB4 on September 14, 2009 at 5:18 PM
How will Obumbler say he was solely responsible for this?
My Spidey Sense tells me that it will be a speech where he uses “I” over hundred times.
jukin on September 14, 2009 at 5:19 PM
Damn, you’re good!
massrighty on September 14, 2009 at 5:17 PM
Yep. Nicely done, Del.
kingsjester on September 14, 2009 at 5:19 PM
Is that you, vladimir estragon? Power Line doesn’t miss you.
Del Dolemonte on September 14, 2009 at 5:19 PM
MB4
and fighting them over makes catching em before they launch attacks that much easier.
rob verdi on September 14, 2009 at 5:19 PM
I think you forgot a word.
Buy Danish on September 14, 2009 at 5:19 PM
How long before the left scream about the politicization of threats just when Obama needs more domestic support to increase our troop presence in a foreign war.
rob verdi on September 14, 2009 at 5:21 PM
Took me 5 minutes of research.
Or 4 minutes and 59 seconds longer than Bleeds Blue’s attention span.
Del Dolemonte on September 14, 2009 at 5:21 PM
none of those have anything to fo with the legitimate pursuit and arrest of terrorists, All of them have to do with the illegitimate use of power. And I for one, suspect and hope that the Ashcroft suit is thrown out (though note that all three judges on the panel were Republican appointees.
Bleeds Blue on September 14, 2009 at 5:21 PM
Well, you can always rely on the Schumer Rule: Chuck Schumer could not tell you what he ate for breakfast without distorting, manipulating, and/or outright lying. It’s like an addiction to him. So if Schumer says nothing was imminent, there was probably something imminent (or at least Schumer believes there was).
Blacklake on September 14, 2009 at 5:22 PM
I thought they were searching an apartment in NYC, not Kabul.
MB4 on September 14, 2009 at 5:22 PM
Schumer said it, I believe it, that settles it!
/sarc
PrincipledPilgrim on September 14, 2009 at 5:24 PM
First of all, liberals don’t even like calling them terrorists. Liberals save that term for us. Check DHS for the appropriate terms.
Secondly, liberals love real terrorists. It’s our CIA that the liberals are really against. How’s that witch hunt with our interrogators going? Have you nailed the guy who blew smoke in the jihadi’s face, yet. That was clearly a violation of human rights worthy of a special prosecutor …
Morons.
progressoverpeace on September 14, 2009 at 5:25 PM
Blame President Bush and then we will sort out what happened later.
Terrorist must be removed from our vocabulary.
seven on September 14, 2009 at 5:26 PM
The front line warriors in any city likely lean more conservative. However, it is the NYC political leaders, responding to their liberal voters, who allocate the budget and set the priorities. These same voters elected Rudy based on his crime-fighting skills.
The liberals are wrong about a lot of things, but no one wants to see their stuff stolen or blown up, and everyone cares about the safety of their family.
dedalus on September 14, 2009 at 5:27 PM
Is Bleeds Blue vlad? I kind of got along with vlad, a bit.
progressoverpeace on September 14, 2009 at 5:27 PM
AQ aligned militant group, from the Times:
rob verdi on September 14, 2009 at 5:27 PM
So, you’re suggesting that because no-one made a statement to the effect that “George W. Bush is a Facist solely because he arrested terror suspects,” the proofs offered by Del are invalid.
Narrow, semantic parsing; next, you’ll be telling us it depends on what the meaning of ‘is’ is.
Del’s proofs stand. Both parts of your statement have been challenged.
You’ve offered nothing back but this thin reed.
massrighty on September 14, 2009 at 5:28 PM
Only if it gets them a vote.
Sue on September 14, 2009 at 5:28 PM
Is it just me, or does the month of September give you an uneasy feeling? So many strange things…
joepub on September 14, 2009 at 5:29 PM
Tea party on 9/12.
“terrorists” arrested 9/14
Coincidence?
I think not.
– tonight on msnbc
angryed on September 14, 2009 at 5:29 PM
BWA HA HA HA HA HA
Dude stop, you’re making my sides hurt. Liberals against terrorists, oh mama, that’s a good one. Thanks I needed the laugh.
angryed on September 14, 2009 at 5:31 PM
Oh and bleeds blue,
Get off your freaking high horse about living in DC. You’ve mentioned this fact about a dozen times over the past few days. OK, you live in a rotten corrupt cesspool of a city, with the country’s highest crime rate and lowest education score. CONGRATS!!
angryed on September 14, 2009 at 5:32 PM
On this, I think you and I can agree; I just get more than a little tired of two unproven memes;
1. Liberals are just as committed to the war on terror as conservatives.
2. ‘Everyone does it’ – this one is trotted out whenever a Liberal is caught doing something bad. As opposed to when a Conservative does it; in that case, it’s ‘all Conservatives are evil.
I was hoping Bleeds Blue would try to back his statements with proofs.
Kind of like unicorns I know (no ones ever seen a Liberal armed with logic and proof,) but I keep trying.
massrighty on September 14, 2009 at 5:33 PM
Holding funds to Hamas to a level of a billion is not “being against” terrorists, though Hamas is ticked and says that they should have gotten at least 40 billion out of the Porkulus. The Precedent can expect campaign donations from Gaza to drop next time around. I wonder if he’ll try and pull that no-AVS trick again. Probably. He’s stupid enough and arrogant enough.
progressoverpeace on September 14, 2009 at 5:34 PM
As a liberal, I don’t actually need a borderline psychopath like yourself to tell me what I think, thank you.
I’m curious where you live. Did you have to get your children out of school while your city was being evacuated? COuld you see the smoke rising from the Pentagon? Do you drive past the sensors that are supposed to pick up radiation from a dirty bomb as it enters the city, and wonder how you’ll get hold of your kids if one goes off?
Or do live in some nice suburban community in a quiet county in a red state, where all this terror stuff is abstraction that lets you channel your inner Bircher and rage about the commies?
If this country ever collapses, it will be because of people like you.
I’m not complaining. I like where I live. But terrorism isn’t an abstraction to me.
Bleeds Blue on September 14, 2009 at 5:34 PM
Epic fail.
Del Dolemonte on September 14, 2009 at 5:34 PM
O/T Glenn Beck says a new acorn tape to be released tommorow, says will set you on fire.
fourdeucer on September 14, 2009 at 5:34 PM
You mean the one that is oriented towards Mecca, and the 9/11 memorial will be right at the position of the star in the crescent, includes the terrorists in the number of people killed there, and will be the largest mosque in the world? Never heard of it.
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bikermailman on September 14, 2009 at 5:37 PM
Well, BB claims to live in work in DC. So did vlad.
BTW vlad got the ban hammer at Power Line after responding to a thread I started 11 months ago paying tribute to the son of a friend of mine who had just been killed in action in Afghanistan.
vlad’s snarky response?
“Sometimes bad things happen to bad people”.
Del Dolemonte on September 14, 2009 at 5:37 PM
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