Axelrod: Tea Party protests don’t represent “mainstream” view of ObamaCare
posted at 1:36 pm on September 14, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
How does one define “mainstream”? The WaPo/ABC poll shows, even with its skewed sample, that ObamaCare is opposed 48%-46% by adults overall, let alone registered or likely voters. That’s slightly better than the 50%-45% a month ago, but it took a presidential speech and an even bigger Dem-Rep gap in the sample to get it. Strictly speaking, the mainstream view was out on the street, not in the Oval Office, but don’t expect David Axelrod to admit that on Face the Nation:
SCHIEFFER: Mr. Axelrod, what do you make of this demonstration yesterday on the streets of Washington? Do you, do you think it’s indicative of the nation’s mood, and what message do you have this morning for those people who were on the streets here yesterday?
AXELROD: Well, first of all Bob, I don’t think it’s indicative of the nation’s mood. In fact, I don’t believe that some of the angriest, strident, most strident voices we saw during the summer were representative of the thousands of town hall meetings that went on around the country, that came off peacefully, that were constructive, people voicing their points of view. But this, you know, one of the great things about our country is that people can express themselves, even if they’re not representative of the majority. Your own poll, taken after the President’s speech, suggests that they don’t represent a mainstream view of this health-care plan, and so, you know, I don’t think we ought to be distracted by that.
My message to them is: they’re wrong. The President made it very, very clear that he wants to build on the system that we have, that he wants to fix what’s wrong with it, so that insurance company bureaucrats can’t rule arbitrarily over the lives of their customers in ways that are very significant, that people don’t go broke because of out-of-pocket costs from the insurance companies, and we want to make sure that people who can’t afford health care today because they’re, they don’t get it from their employer, can get health care at a price they can afford. Right now, they have to pay three times as much as anyone else. So that’s what this is about. We ought to focus on what it’s about and not on distortions of it.
The poll to which Axelrod refers surveyed those who watched the speech. It started with a sample of 648 adults, only 53% of whom watched the speech, or 388 adults. CBS weighted them down to 345 for their analysis, and a poll of less than 400 adults in either case is hardly a reliable sample.
But who watched the speech? Not surprisingly, a lot more Democrats than Republicans. The sample had a 15-point gap between them, 42% Democrat to 27% Republican. This makes it no more useful than a website poll for its predictive value. The fact that Axelrod latched onto it demonstrates his desperation more than anything else.
As far as “peaceful” protests go, it’s worth noting that the only significant violence at these town-hall forums came when union thugs acted as enforcers for ObamaCare. Until they beat an ObamaCare opponent to a pulp in St. Louis, the meetings had been peaceful, if loud.
Barack Obama sent Axelrod out to spin for the White House, and Axelrod spun hard enough to show their desperation. Despite their protestations, the administration is well aware that the town-hall demonstrations and the march on Washington this weekend represent “mainstream” views.









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This guy is a snake oil salesman and looks every bit the shikester he is. Hey Axel hope to see you without a job soon!
bluegrass on September 14, 2009 at 1:39 PM
Oh goody. More lies for the American people.
bridgetown on September 14, 2009 at 1:39 PM
Delusional implies that he actually believes what he’s saying. Liar is more accurate.
MoronThisLater on September 14, 2009 at 1:39 PM
Listening to Assrod speak is every bit as much of a waste of time as listening to his little puppet Barry.
Worthless, arrogant, corrupt and incompetent drones.
We don’t have leaders in this country, all we have is weasels, donkeys and liars.
NoDonkey on September 14, 2009 at 1:39 PM
I wonder what color the sky is in Axelrod’s world.
rbj on September 14, 2009 at 1:39 PM
These people are so damn stupid. Unbelievable!
SueM on September 14, 2009 at 1:39 PM
It’s no longer the msm.
It’s the corrupt media, or government media.
They’re complicit in the fed govt corruption.
joshlbetts on September 14, 2009 at 1:39 PM
NEWS FLASH:
Axlerod represents mainstream mentally challenged Liberals!
Cybergeezer on September 14, 2009 at 1:39 PM
That is the most rattled I’ve ever seen Axelrod.
Cuffy Meigs on September 14, 2009 at 1:40 PM
Oh, Axelrod, Axelrod, Axelrod. We all know you’re a lying douchebag. Just…stop, okay, just…stop. You’re not convincing anybody except the zombies. C’mon, you’re supposed to be smarter than this. Even Rove could see the writing on the wall in the end and called the election for Obama. Are you gonna let Rove show you up? Huh? Are ya? Huh? :P
Orange Doorhinge on September 14, 2009 at 1:41 PM
Oh, I can assure you A**rod, the American people do understand.
On 9/12 – millions of people around the country took to the streets. They are the usually silent majority.
Play your mind games if you wish – better yet, play with yourself.
BobK on September 14, 2009 at 1:41 PM
Yeah Axelrod there were only a handful of people in Washington, nothing to be concerned about.
fourdeucer on September 14, 2009 at 1:41 PM
September is Paint the GOP as Racist month
This was the point of the school speech, joint session speech, etc.
faraway on September 14, 2009 at 1:42 PM
Axlerod said the same crap on the Factor last week…then on Friday, they did a body language segment on him. Tanya said he was sneeering, looking at Bill O with disgust and lying, of course.
So many liars in the WH.
becki51758 on September 14, 2009 at 1:43 PM
I think he is saying this to try to demoralize us into silence.
Good luck with that one A$$holerod.
Key West Reader on September 14, 2009 at 1:43 PM
I’m supposed to take the word of the winner of the “Hitler Look-Alike” contest?
perroviejo on September 14, 2009 at 1:43 PM
Huh? What tea party? According to Gibbs the WH didn’t even know about it.
angryed on September 14, 2009 at 1:43 PM
Maybe he and BOB can take a lie detectors test on FOX News
Oh yes the Bamster too!
bluegrass on September 14, 2009 at 1:43 PM
First, Axtroturf spins them as far too right. Now, he swerves hard into the opposite ditch with “they’re wrong.” No wonder everyone sees his team as weak, indecisive, and flailing.
Christien on September 14, 2009 at 1:43 PM
My message to him: No Mr. Axholerod, you are a sociopath, and sadly mistaken.
singlemalt_18 on September 14, 2009 at 1:44 PM
Why is November 2010 so far away?!
enoughalready on September 14, 2009 at 1:44 PM
Axelrod belongs in Gitmo.
progressoverpeace on September 14, 2009 at 1:44 PM
You mean the Gay Porn Star Hitler contest?
The only invasions this guy is planning are of the back door variety.
NoDonkey on September 14, 2009 at 1:45 PM
They sky is not falling!!!!!eleventy!!one!!111
I can’t tell if Obama’s administration really believes what they see in their little Democrat bubble or if they are simply trying to expand the bubble with all their might.
gwelf on September 14, 2009 at 1:45 PM
Axelrod and the rest of the corruptocrats in D.C. are going to find out in the 2010 elections just how “mainstream” the Tea Partiers are.
AZCoyote on September 14, 2009 at 1:45 PM
Axelrod does not want to be distracted by the Teaparty folks.
texasconserv on September 14, 2009 at 1:45 PM
To quote a great American statesman: “YOU LIE!”
rebuzz on September 14, 2009 at 1:46 PM
You Beltway Elitist Idiots lost touch with Average Americans a long time ago, Axelrod. People are receiving the truth via the “New Media”. No one is listening to you anymore. At this point, you’re talking just to exercise your gums.
kingsjester on September 14, 2009 at 1:47 PM
We’ll see how accurate that statement is when 50 million senior citizens vote to oust the Democrats in 2010.
How many votes did Barry win by? 3-4 million?
The vote swing will be catastrophic. For the donks.
fogw on September 14, 2009 at 1:48 PM
The crowd larger than the paid union support groups Obama draws
Next big crowds, Sarah Palin.
bluegrass on September 14, 2009 at 1:48 PM
Uh huh. AxUHlrod was “uh”ing almost every other word.
Christien on September 14, 2009 at 1:48 PM
He wants to fundamentally change this country into a socialist cess-pool!
rebuzz on September 14, 2009 at 1:49 PM
Really? Well I personally hope Axelrod and the others in the administration keep bashing and ignoring “We the People”. Come election time they may finally get a clue.
4shoes on September 14, 2009 at 1:49 PM
If they actually believed their ridiculous lies, that would be grounds for involuntary commitals in most states. I would guess that 30% of The Precedent’s administration fall into this “truly crazy” category, while the rest are just very bad liars who know it but don’t care.
progressoverpeace on September 14, 2009 at 1:49 PM
“Sprechen sie dick?”
teke184 on September 14, 2009 at 1:49 PM
As a political consultant it’s his job to spin the news in a favorable light to his client. If this is all the better he can do Obama needs a refund.
Tommy_G on September 14, 2009 at 1:50 PM
Translation: We won, STFU and get out of the way.
I’m sorry but it takes a huge amount of arrogance to dismiss a million people showing up on the national mall as in protest as inconsequential to the national debate. Especially when you consider that these were real people, not plants from unions and other special interests.
highhopes on September 14, 2009 at 1:51 PM
Yeah sure, only http://chispan.org/ or SEIU could do that.
Speakup on September 14, 2009 at 1:51 PM
Hey Ed,
Why no mention of today’s Rasmussen poll?
You and Allah love this pollster. Why conveniently ignoring today?
cornfedbubba on September 14, 2009 at 1:52 PM
to quote Matt Hooper: I think that I am familiar with the fact that you are going to ignore this particular problem until it swims up and BITES YOU ON THE ASS!
Tazz 55 on September 14, 2009 at 1:52 PM
Considering how they left no evidence of their presence I’m not surprised.
Orange Doorhinge on September 14, 2009 at 1:52 PM
The 0bama administration spins so much they should hook them up to generators and they could cover all of the nations power needs.
Wolftech on September 14, 2009 at 1:53 PM
Wow, he did that on one breath and 347 eyebrow manipulations. The dude is evil man, fricking evil.
enoughalready on September 14, 2009 at 1:53 PM
We think there may be enough room under the bus for another Axel or tool?
Col.John Wm. Reed on September 14, 2009 at 1:53 PM
The Obama shuck and jive act needs supporting actors…
tarpon on September 14, 2009 at 1:53 PM
We have always been at war with Eastasia.
catmman on September 14, 2009 at 1:54 PM
Eastasia is our ally.
catmman on September 14, 2009 at 1:54 PM
cornfedbubba on September 14, 2009 at 1:52 PM
More on topic: When is the State-Run Media going to admit that Saturday’s Event was Huge?
kingsjester on September 14, 2009 at 1:54 PM
Particularly since this sort of turn out before mid-January by liberals would have been heralded as ‘the will of the people against a failing president’.
gwelf on September 14, 2009 at 1:54 PM
Looks like Axelrod answered the sign “Can you hear us yet?”.
jhffmn on September 14, 2009 at 1:54 PM
Take your panties off of your head and read the headlines. It’s been posted. Moron.
fogw on September 14, 2009 at 1:55 PM
So funny. Hubby walked in on Axelrod on tv the other day and said “Whoa-who’s this guy? He looks just like Hitler!”
NTWR on September 14, 2009 at 1:55 PM
Went from ten sumptin’ to this.
President Obama Job Approval
Polling Data
Poll Date Sample Approve Disapprove Spread
RCP Average 8/29 – 9/13 – 52.0 44.4 +7.6
ABC News/Wash Post 9/10 – 9/12 1007 A 54 43 +11
Rasmussen Reports 9/11 – 9/13 1500 LV 52 48 +4
Gallup 9/11 – 9/13 1547 A 53 40 +13
Associated Press/GfK 9/3 – 9/8 1001 A 50 49 +1
Democracy Corps (D) 8/29 – 9/1 1000 RV 51 42 +9
See All President Obama Job Approval Polling Data
Col.John Wm. Reed on September 14, 2009 at 1:55 PM
AllahPundit thinks so too. Just check his twitter feed on 9/12 pimping articles that smear GB and the entire tea party movement as a bunch of fringe kook wackos that should be purged from the conservative movement.
jjraines on September 14, 2009 at 1:56 PM
Maybe David Axelrod was a plus when Obama was campaigning…I think it’s probably fair to say that Rahm Emanuel is more flexible and can pivot with public sentiment easier. It’s possible that Axelrod has become an albatross hung acround the President’s neck?
Dr Evil on September 14, 2009 at 1:57 PM
cornfedbubba on September 14, 2009 at 1:52 PM
It’s been in the headline for hours bubba. Unlike our liberal pals, we’re not afraid to report the truth.
IrishEi on September 14, 2009 at 1:58 PM
d1carter on September 14, 2009 at 1:58 PM
A massive protest march is totally outweighed by a single poll which shows Obama has barely crept back into a bare majority on an issue that he has polled as not having a majority on for weeks and weeks now?
If polling shows this week or next week that he’s once again doesn’t have a majority will you agree that Obama doesn’t have mainstream support?
gwelf on September 14, 2009 at 1:59 PM
Peaceful constructive town halls in his mind were where the SEIU and Acorn tools were bussed in, given their premade “Dear Leader” signs and were told to sit in the front rows and like the mind numbed Neo-Marxist idiots they are, clap.
One of the beautiful things about all this is that the RACIST accusations are a dull tool now. (Hey, just like liberals!) The word is so frequently applied, now to half thew country that it just has no meaning anymore. And the ability to castigate and try to “demonize” is all the left has. They are a one tool group of tools.
enoughalready on September 14, 2009 at 2:00 PM
Sorry, look here
d1carter on September 14, 2009 at 2:00 PM
You climb high to get into the White House (like Davie boy here) by being a yellow-bellied, Commie, Marxist, Fascist, Lying scum bag – that’s on his resume and The One hired him on the spot!
Cinday Blackburn on September 14, 2009 at 2:00 PM
maintainece casualty, testing, testing, have we got a “hot” keyboard again, over?
Archimedes on September 14, 2009 at 2:00 PM
Yes, and 9-11 Trutherism represents the “mainstream” of American thought – that’s why Van Jones was selected by the Obama White House. Because of his “mainstream” views.
If Axelrod spins any harder, he risks throwing the Earth off its axis.
Good Lt on September 14, 2009 at 2:01 PM
Give Bagdad-Rod a break, after all he does work for a guy named Hussein… not that there’s anything wrong with that.
Michelle Dubois on September 14, 2009 at 2:01 PM
That is me at the :08 to :10 mark in the middle who holds the sign up to the camera!
That is so awesome!
My mom is so proud.
Joe Caps on September 14, 2009 at 2:01 PM
Here it is in case you mised it above
Rasmussen Reports 9/11 – 9/13 1500 LV 52 48 +4
Col.John Wm. Reed on September 14, 2009 at 2:02 PM
Damn! I meant Baghdad.
Michelle Dubois on September 14, 2009 at 2:02 PM
Everytime I see Axelrod I think of 70′s porn. He looks like he stepped right out of Boogie Nights. His last name even has a pornish sound to it. The guy makes my skin crawl.
Redneck Woman on September 14, 2009 at 2:03 PM
Read the headlines you dope.
Joe Caps on September 14, 2009 at 2:04 PM
Axelrod can try and shape the perception in old media all he wants it’s new media that is leading public opinion and Fox News and Talk Radio.
That would be a good poll question has Axelrod become a liability? Is he an Albatross? The Good Ship Obama needs some course correction in some choppy political waters…I don’t think Axelrod is giving the President very good advice…not if this is his reaction to Average American Citizen’s protesting their leadership decisions. They don’t get they are ginning up their opposition every time they criticize Every Day Average Tax Paying American Citizens.
IT doesn’t look good Dave – even the European Press gets it! You all are swimming against the American People’s Will – Current.
Dr Evil on September 14, 2009 at 2:05 PM
Blago, Axelrod, Emanuel, Obama….a thugocracy that went to the top. How do we rid ourselves of these gangsters?
d1carter on September 14, 2009 at 2:07 PM
Whew! Saaaweet! I’m back in!
—-Bannh dalanadant—
“Happy days are here again..
the summer evenings glow,
I got my wine, I got my wild herb,
Ive’ got my woman y’know…
(Led Zep)
I was having HA withdrawals, all is good in the world again. Oh wait….Bambam’s still in ofice! Damn-it!
Well back to work, just glad to see i awsn’t cut from “the team.”
Archimedes on September 14, 2009 at 2:07 PM
David Axelturf is not easy on the eyes.
JammieWearingFool on September 14, 2009 at 2:08 PM
Delusional Ed?
Axelrod knows EXACTLY what and why he is saying it, and it is ANYTHING but delusional. A guy that made a career out of studying how and when to play the race card, certainly isn’t the least bit concerned with truth. Ed, you need to read up on this guy and his past. Delusional couldn’t be more inaccurate a label.
Danzo on September 14, 2009 at 2:08 PM
Who cares what Axelputz says! What a shyster!
MCGIRV on September 14, 2009 at 2:09 PM
If we don’t represent the mainstream view I guess that means the crooks at ACORN and SEIU do.
fourdeucer on September 14, 2009 at 2:10 PM
Hey Ed,
Why no mention of today’s Rasmussen poll?
cornfeddumbass
BigWyo on September 14, 2009 at 2:10 PM
LGF just uncovered the dirty secret that it’s the tea party people who are the -real- socialists. Heart-ache.
Really, CJ? Really?
lorien1973 on September 14, 2009 at 2:11 PM
It’s funny when you think about it.
If the protesters don’t represent mainstream America, and Obama’s policies do, shouldn’t he be able to sell his plan with one speech? Why the heck is he giving a hundred speeches, one a day since God knows when? Why is he running around making speeches at Blue State town hall meetings packed full of his supporters, if mainstream America supports him? If he, and you, are so confident, why hasn’t the congress had the courage to pull the string on taking a vote?
The facts don’t backup what you say Axelrod. They suggest Obama faces a REAL THREAT.
fogw on September 14, 2009 at 2:11 PM
Axelrod s/b Propaganda Minister for Obama.
Schadenfreude on September 14, 2009 at 2:11 PM
But Ed, I read in a DHS report that those who favor state and local governance over a large federal government are right wing extremists.
I also read that those “Don’t tread on me” flags are a sign of right wing extremists too. There were LOTS of them there!
/s
Joe Caps on September 14, 2009 at 2:12 PM
Axelrod is representative of whats main stream..in the Oval Office, which is deny, deny, deny.
Deny the chaos in the Senate, the House and WH.
Deny anybody cares or would even actually protest!
And really and truly deny anything like this could ever happen to them and how guilty they feel for allowing it to happen to the Ascended One, oh the shame of it all, oh the humanity, Oh, the Humanity! go up there and just stink up the joint.
There’s no denial of anything inclusive of the possibility they could be wrong, not because they are but because, that doesn’t matter.
Speakup on September 14, 2009 at 2:13 PM
Axelrod is so much like Rangel I get them confused some times, They must be drinking from the same well
There were enough bogus polls after the speech to satisfy any CNN newscaster. Rasmussen does divide his analysis between likability (Obama gained points, possibly beyond margin of error), and support of the Bill (1 point up both for, and against – i.e. net failure)
I believe most of the reported polls as much as I believe the crowd count reported for the 9-12 protests
The Spinners are flooding the MSM with polls to divert folk from this fact: Obama’s speech was about an imaginary bill he intends to have written. That pie-in-the-sky bill ought to get more bounce than it got.
It is the real Bill we need to poll, but they have to write it first
I am feeling positive about my fellow Americas. I believe the reason Obama did not get a substantive bounce on the Bill itself is because the public knows the mythical Bill does not yet exist and they are withholding judgement
A pretty good day for my side, IMO
entagor on September 14, 2009 at 2:13 PM
No the problem is the right wing obstructionists are just so darn good at spreading lies!
/s
Joe Caps on September 14, 2009 at 2:14 PM
“We polled ACORN offices across the country and they support Obamacare and the ‘performing arts’ by huge majorities! Next question, please.”
mankai on September 14, 2009 at 2:15 PM
Please, somebody’s God, don’t let the Uberleft pay too much attention to what is actually happening. Let them say we are not the mainstream….in the meantime, we need to make sure as many of our kind of people get elected. No necessarily D or R’s after their names.
sharinlite on September 14, 2009 at 2:15 PM
Delusional Ed?
Axelrod knows EXACTLY what and why he is saying it, and it is ANYTHING but delusional. A guy that made a career out of studying how and when to play the race card, certainly isn’t the least bit concerned with truth. Ed, you need to read up on this guy and his past. Delusional couldn’t be more inaccurate a label.
Danzo on September 14, 2009 at 2:08 PM
You’re absolutely right! I seem to remember a piece regarding his firm as being instrumental in assisting far leftists attaining office in S. America prior whats-his-name? Oh yeah Deval Patrick in Mass.
Been meaning to follow that up, thanks for the prompt it is now on the to-do list for tonight.
Archimedes on September 14, 2009 at 2:17 PM
If only we could get the GOP to just as readily dismiss the leftist media in DC as the propagandists and hacks they truly are.
If only….
CurtZHP on September 14, 2009 at 2:18 PM
These are the people Axelrod considers “mainstream”.
Buy Danish on September 14, 2009 at 2:18 PM
So do CNN, NPR, and the BBC, among others. Those others include the PROGRESSIVE Nate Silver.
NathanG on September 14, 2009 at 2:19 PM
Axel looks like a possum,go act like one and play dead axel!
ohiobabe on September 14, 2009 at 2:19 PM
Delusional is right! He’s either delusional or lying. No other alternative.
Oink on September 14, 2009 at 2:19 PM
Obama to the American People:
“Let me be clear about (insert lie here)”
Axlerod:
“Sir, I don’t think they are buying it. We need to step it up a bit.”
Obama to the American People:
“Let me be very clear about (insert lie here)”
Axlerod:
“Nope still not working.”
Obama to the American People:
“Let me be very, very clear about (insert lie here)”
Axlerod:
“Oh yeah, now we are getting somewhere.”
j_galt on September 14, 2009 at 2:20 PM
Let’s see. Nobody organizes and event and 2 million people show up. Obama and Axelrod schedule and event and 15,000 people show up.
Which one is outside the mainstream?
hawksruleva on September 14, 2009 at 2:20 PM
Idea for Obama/Axelrod/Emanuel
Schadenfreude on September 14, 2009 at 2:21 PM
The stench of fear coming off that guy is palatable.
It tastes like schadenfreude.
csdeven on September 14, 2009 at 2:22 PM
Idiots like Axlerash think that all they have to do is repeat their lies with conviction often enough and then they become the truth. This is the way it has always worked for them mainly because the MSM has reinforced the message for them.
What I see happening now, is that this jig is up. NOBODY takes the media seriously anymore. they have been totally descredited and therefore the lies aren’t sticking anymore. People listen to the talking heads of this administration and just assume its a lie. they have zero credability. Axlerash will be heading back to his PR company soon.
exceller on September 14, 2009 at 2:23 PM
hawksruleva on September 14, 2009 at 2:20 PM
Brilliant point. I just wonder how many of them were paid to be there? Ooops never mind, they were all union, they all were paid.
milwife88 on September 14, 2009 at 2:24 PM
The race card is the only card left to play, but geez, I didn’t know they made whole decks with those things.
PrincipledPilgrim on September 14, 2009 at 2:26 PM
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