Obama: National dialogue “coarsening”
posted at 1:41 pm on September 13, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
Barack Obama is concerned about the “coarsening” of our national debate:
President Barack Obama said in an interview to be aired Sunday night on “60 Minutes” that he sees “a coarsening of our political dialogue.”
“The truth of the matter is that there has been, I think, a coarsening of our political dialogue,” Obama told Steve Kroft in an interview taped at the White House on Friday evening.
“I will also say that in the era of 24-hour cable news cycles, that the loudest, shrillest voices get the most attention. And so one of the things that I’m trying to figure out is: How can we make sure that civility is interesting?”
Bob Schieffer, who played the clip on CBS’s “Face the Nation,” said Kroft had asked the president what he thought of all the anger that had erupted over the summer.
Coarse dialogue bothers the president? Is it safe to say he’s getting “all wee-wee’d up” over it?
Or, perhaps, it’s the scare tactics that bother him?
Or maybe when Nancy Pelosi and Steny Hoyer called town-hall feedback “un-American”? Or perhaps this moment when John Dingell compared the protesters to the KKK?
I’d say “Physician, heal thyself,” but Obama would probably propose a new bureaucracy for that. Disdain, indeed.
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Yeah, pretty clever – since they have a largely captive media, they can frame the terms of almost any debate, and put the other team (that’s us) on defense.
Plus, they have done everything they can to rile us up; shutting Republicans out of the process of government as much as posible, spurning and mocking conservative grass-roots efforts, and a ton of name calling.
Now, they’re surprised that we’re energized, and maybe a little angry?
massrighty on September 13, 2009 at 2:17 PM
Good point… he is like a door to door salesman who won’t go away.
it started with a Polite… “no”.. and he did not listen…
Then a bit more empahtic “no”… but still no one listened…
Now we are at the “Hell No!” stage… but his foot is in the way of closing the door… and he’s saying “no need to get nasty”….
Soon it will “F-NO!”… and if that does not work…
Well… the 2nd Amendment WAS put in there for a very good reason…
Romeo13 on September 13, 2009 at 2:17 PM
Obama = NPD, baby. Look it up in the DSM.
George Orwell on September 13, 2009 at 2:18 PM
He’s getting easier and easier to tune out.
yogi41 on September 13, 2009 at 2:19 PM
George: He’d read it and still utter…. I Won..
ted c on September 13, 2009 at 2:19 PM
Jeremiah Wright … now, there was a paragon of refined, civil language.
bitsy on September 13, 2009 at 2:19 PM
There’s always a bump, after a big speech.
How fast it craters, then falls, will be the real test.
massrighty on September 13, 2009 at 2:20 PM
Is it safe to say he’s getting “all wee-wee’d up” over it?
Nope, but he will be. He’ll wee-wee up his pants when the results of the next election come in. We should send him a box of Depends for that moment.
Bootleghooch on September 13, 2009 at 2:20 PM
I’d say he’s a sack of sh*t, but that’s at least useful for fertilizer.
johnsteele on September 13, 2009 at 2:20 PM
Glad to see the folks are waking up to this clown and his ilk.
larvcom on September 13, 2009 at 2:20 PM
President Obama,
Please stay the coarse….right back to Illinois
Rovin on September 13, 2009 at 2:21 PM
I felt the same way but I found solace in the fact that he wet his pants all the way to Minnesota. He is a bully with no core. They truly scare easily.
sherry on September 13, 2009 at 2:21 PM
“They can’t stop us,” Barack Obama says yesterday as hundreds of thousands march on Washington.
Really??? Who is “they?” (rhetorical question) This is the kind of “coarse speech” usually reserved for an enemy or an opponent. Barack Obama has just called out at least half of America as his enemy to be defeated. A coarsening of our political dialogue, indeed!
texgal on September 13, 2009 at 2:21 PM
sHe told us to shut up and she does not put a stop to the race card. Screw hym.
CWforFreedom on September 13, 2009 at 2:22 PM
COWARD will not engage in meaningful exchange of ideas.
COWARD temporarily in public housing at 1600 Penn Ave.
He can cram it to us but in the end it will be the German solution,DO NOT GET ANGRY,GET EVEN!
Col.John Wm. Reed on September 13, 2009 at 2:22 PM
It must be great to never be wrong, regardless of how wrong you are.
Cindy Munford on September 13, 2009 at 2:23 PM
Narcissists are the least likely of the mentally ill to seek help or receive when it’s offered. Arrogance is a pillar of narcissism…an entrenched confidence that one (the narcissist, himself) has the only valued (or existing) reference point.
Narcissists are incapable of compromise because they refuse (or are unable) to elevate any other option to the level of plausible. BO’s meme of being one who seeks consensus is a farce. He is verbally gifted and uses his wiles to dominate the will of the opposition. The wider the circle of those who must me convinced, the more likely he will encounter a Joe Wilson, who is willing to risk embarrassment to state the obvious: the emperor has no clothes.
Barack Obama has no choice but to belittle and marginalize the opposition because he is unable to force his will on them, like he can in person by virtue of his office. Which is why, I believe, we are seeing more and more of his frustration leaking through…referring to the opposition as, ‘they’, for example, and using harsh scare tactics. He admonishes the opposition for coarseness because it’s all he has left…to be coarse.
The only way to deal with a narcissist is to refuse to play. Ironically, Alinsky’s methods might actually work on him!
IMHO
LEBA on September 13, 2009 at 2:23 PM
Cass Sunstein and Mark Lloyd will be sure to bring a more moderate tone of speech. Sure!!!
fourdeucer on September 13, 2009 at 2:24 PM
President Obama: “The peasants are revolting.”
Steve Kroft: “So you did see the protest Saturday?”
Mr Michael on September 13, 2009 at 2:24 PM
People who don’t ride silver unicorns across lollypop rainbows to the magic land of Pixieville.
TMK on September 13, 2009 at 2:24 PM
those who must
mebe convinced,ooops.
LEBA on September 13, 2009 at 2:24 PM
That is stunning to me because I thought his speech was incredibly offensive; How low does your self esteem have to be to accept being spoken to by the likes of him?
anniekc on September 13, 2009 at 2:24 PM
I can’t believe he’s going to be on tv again. I really don’t want to see him again, but I know everytime he opens his mouth, he loses more credibiblity. Have at it, Hussein.
JackofNoTrades on September 13, 2009 at 2:25 PM
Oh,OBama listened carefully to Jeremiah Wright for those twenty years. He acts and sounds just like the twisted preacher man.
mobydutch on September 13, 2009 at 2:25 PM
Question for youse guys… We can give Barry the benefit of the doubt that he truly believes in his vast project to, at the least, push the nation far closer to European socialism than anyone since FDR. It is a sincere belief. But we also know Barry Rainbowshanks is deeply in love with his image and legacy. So the question is… Will Barry’s desire to leave his indelible, reeking leftist mark on the nation override his own considerations for the electoral prospects of the Democrats? In other words, will he try every available unilateral method at the disposal of the Executive Branch to ram socialism down our throats, even if it means the Demotards will suffer mightily in electoral retribution?
George Orwell on September 13, 2009 at 2:25 PM
I received a call from a Gallup pollster yesterday. Question #1 – Are you pleased or displeased with the way Obama is handling his job? That was an easy one. Several questions focused on my personal health habits. Then came some odd questions about banks/the financials, and my satisfaction/feelings about them. After this call, I have a feeling that the Marxists are about to target and coarsen the discussion about individual Americans and our personal health habits….and… get ready for more Big Government involvement in the banks and financial industry.
redwhiteblue on September 13, 2009 at 2:26 PM
Is he calling us out?
d1carter on September 13, 2009 at 2:26 PM
That made no sense. Sorry. Barry gets me all wee’ wee’d up and really pissy sometimes!
anniekc on September 13, 2009 at 2:27 PM
Where did you find that quote? Is it a press release?
Amazing–20 people who favor abortion show up in a counter-protest against 20,000 opposed, and the 20 are the ‘national mood’.
I have yet to understand how libs fall for the nonsense the MSM puts out, I wonder where lefties find true genuine balance and truth to fact. They accept ‘samples’ that are tilted toward a desired poll result, accepting as fact a hundred people ‘polled’ represents the will of the people. A hundred? Or a thousand? We’re 300 million and counting, and a thousand polled somehow represents us though the ‘sample’ is tilted?
Obama and the Left have no knowledge of Statistics, let alone how to govern a free people made up of every race, religion, orientation, marital status, etc.
Hardest for me to grasp is that so-called educated people don’t see this sham for what it is.
Liam on September 13, 2009 at 2:27 PM
If they’d focus on their own yards…alas…the big flappers see only world peace, a one-world-everything and socialism/communism über alles. May they drown in their own caca.
Schadenfreude on September 13, 2009 at 2:28 PM
So,the Left is getting a bit upset that
their own rules from their playbook are
being used against them!!
canopfor on September 13, 2009 at 2:30 PM
Ras says the gains are all among liberals, who were wanting 0bama to get rough and tough with us. Yep, the same choads who would have been celebrating in the streets if someone shot Bush are talking about us as coarsening the political dialogue.
Sekhmet on September 13, 2009 at 2:30 PM
Also, the White House was “unaware” of yesterday’s protest on the front lawn.
Chutzpah
Key West Reader on September 13, 2009 at 2:31 PM
If the dialogue is coarsening its because Americans have a clue that the people they elect are representatives not princes or kings.
When the Senate, the House and the President listens to the voting public instead of threatening, scaremongering or calling us all racists, the debate gains civility.
If civility and honest open debate is important, you first Mr. President, you first.
BTW a protest of a million or more is too big to ignore, can you hear us now?
Speakup on September 13, 2009 at 2:31 PM
Is prompterbama that dumb? He must be!
Prompterbama sides with Chavez & Castro. Calls what happened in Honduras a Military Coup, when it was their Supreme Court who asked the military to take their president, who was attempting to usurping their constitution, and arrest him.
Obama is “transforming America” into something that the majority does not want.” So everyone who loves freedom and liberty are suppose to sit back and watch this nutball destroy out country. he ran as a moderate and became the furthest left liberal to occupy the White House and we’re suppose to sit back and let it happen?
The tea partiers are tired of the debt and the takeover of every major industry this country has to offer. I’m so sorry you can’t handle the truth. YOU ARE DIVIDING THIS COUNTRY WITH YOUR RADICAL LEFTIST DIATRIBE. YOU’RE A LIAR! ENOUGH SAID.
Atlanta Media Guy on September 13, 2009 at 2:32 PM
If that lying speech to Congress has tightened the polls as Rasmussen has reported, I fear the American people are ready for Socialism or better yet, Communism. What nitwit could have been swayed by such hate and arrogance?
mobydutch on September 13, 2009 at 2:32 PM
Coarsening? As opposed to what, the civil and respectful discourse that the left has given us over the last 40 years? The flag-burning, hanging-in-effigy, invective-filled ‘dialogue’ of the Bush years?
The left is getting worried. From the patchouli-drenched Seattle wannabe-hippie all the way on up to B.O. himself, they know it’s “on” now, and they’re worried. A conservative uprising was not part of the plan.
-Cnation
Cnation on September 13, 2009 at 2:32 PM
Funny. He’ll respond directly to Sarah Palin in a speech to congress, but he won’t respond to 1 million people on his front lawn.
LEBA on September 13, 2009 at 2:34 PM
I’m not sure since apparently ANYTHING not praising him is considered racist. As for me, I don’t consider the color of his skin either way when evaluating his outrageous trainwreck of spending and corruption, but I do have a problem with the thickness of it.
I’m not sure how his “call them out” and “get in their faces” and “we won’t let them stop us” comments are civil, but I guess I’m too much of an angry mobster to get it?
hollygolightly on September 13, 2009 at 2:35 PM
Let’s name Bozo’s ONE TERM in office in terms of a reality show. Perhaps, “Dancing with the Marxists”, “So You Think You Can Be Coarse”, “Big Brother”, “The Apprentice”, “Project My Way”, “Top Chump”, “Extreme Makeover, White House Edition”, “America’s Next Top A$$hole”, “American Putz”, “The Biggest Loser”, “Pimp my Acorn”, “The Surreal World”.
txag92 on September 13, 2009 at 2:35 PM
These matters seem unlikely to end with a mere coarsening of the national “dialogue.” I’m inclined to an opinion that there will be destitution, ruin, and murders. I confess that I don’t know how to save myself or what I love.
Kralizec on September 13, 2009 at 2:37 PM
The thing is… the more Obama tries to inject himself into the spotlight and keep us all calm by wowing us with his Hopus Changus, the more irrelevant he seems to become… Keep talking Barry… Keep talking.
Upstater85 on September 13, 2009 at 2:37 PM
By definition, 1/2 of Adults are of below Average intelligence…
Romeo13 on September 13, 2009 at 2:37 PM
Toward this end, I have appointed Mark Lloyd as Diversity Czar at the FCC…
petefrt on September 13, 2009 at 2:37 PM
What do you call Obama when he gives the middle finger to both McCain and Hillary? I call him, off the charts, coarse, crass and crude.
betsyz on September 13, 2009 at 2:40 PM
I have no intention of knocking one of the most interesting and accomplished women in history but Helen Keller would have been aware of yesterday’s protest.
sherry on September 13, 2009 at 2:40 PM
No one was swayed . . . this is just more conjured up poll results by the state owned media who are also the propaganda arm of the Obama regime. Believe nothing Obama says and even less of what the media says.
rplat on September 13, 2009 at 2:41 PM
Project My Way:
And now, the end is near;
And so I face the final curtain.
My friend, I’ll say it clear,
I’ll state my case, of which I’m certain.
I’ve lived a life that’s sketchy.
I’ve traveled each and ev’ry ACORN;
And more, much more than this,
I did it my way.
Regrets, Ive had a none;
But then again, none to mention.
I did what I wanted to do
And saw it through without exemption.
I planned each charted takeover;
Each sloppy step along the byway,
But more, much more than this,
I did it my way.
Yes, there were times, I’m sure you knew
When I bit off more than I could chew.
But through it all, when there was doubt,
I blamed it on Bush.
I faced it all and I stood tall;
And did it my way.
I’ve loved, I’ve laughed and cried – a lot.
I’ve had my fill; my share of
losingstealing.And now, as tears subside,
I find it all so amusing.
To think I did all that;
And may I say – not in a shy way,
No, oh no not me,
I did it my way.
For what is a man/woman/womyn/it, what has he got?
If not himself, then he has naught.
To say the things he truly feels;
And not the words of one who kneels to Saudis.
The record shows Bush took the blows -
And I did it my way!
Upstater85 on September 13, 2009 at 2:44 PM
even if it means the Demotards will suffer mightily in electoral retribution?
George Orwell on September 13, 2009 at 2:25 PM
George Orwell: If the Liberals don’t come out of their Kool
Aid stupor real soon,then the entire party
will go down!
Thats going to be some sacrifice,for one guy
I might add!:)
canopfor on September 13, 2009 at 2:44 PM
Wait. Wasn’t he the one who said to “get in their face”? And now he’s complaining because the discussion has gotten coarse? That’s like a bully coming up and punching you in the face and then crying to the principal because you punched back. Get a clue!
UnderstandingisPower on September 13, 2009 at 2:45 PM
“They can’t stop us.”
Please get in front of the bus, pal. Pretty, pretty please?
Lincoln Cadillac on September 13, 2009 at 2:45 PM
Did Kroft follow up by saying, “But aren’t you the worst offender Mr. President”?
Pfffft.
fogw on September 13, 2009 at 2:47 PM
Also, the White House was “unaware” of yesterday’s protest on the front lawn.
Chutzpah
Key West Reader on September 13, 2009 at 2:31 PM
Key West Reader: Baghdad Bob moment!!:)
canopfor on September 13, 2009 at 2:48 PM
“I will also say that in the era of 24-hour cable news cycles, that the loudest, shrillest voices get the most attention. And so one of the things that I’m trying to figure out is: How can we make sure that civility is interesting?”
This is Obama telling us that his FCC CZAR will be shutting up any voice that doesn’t agree with him!!!!
bratkatz13 on September 13, 2009 at 2:49 PM
If it was a CNN poll I’d agree. But according to Ras, support for ObamaCare has gone up quite a bit over the past week as has THE ONE’s support. Once again the idiocy of America comes thorough.
angryed on September 13, 2009 at 2:50 PM
Every 24-hour cycle brings with it more insanity from Bambi. This lunatic is a legend in his own mind. Every time I hear him speak or read what he’s said or done, I think about Hank Hill (King of the Hill) saying about Bobby Hill, “That boy ain’t right.”
In all of my years I have had the great misfortune of knowing two certifiable sociopathic, narcissistic personalities. And now I see the same behavior in the leader of the free world.
Whatever happened in O-blah-blah’s childhood (of which we know some, but not all) had to be of such soul-damaging and spirit-breaking magnitude that it created this evil monster who is now in the White House.
Obama is a pathetic, lying, delusional, malcontent, spoiled brat. I have never, ever disliked a president the way I dislike him.
I just hope and pray our country is strong enough and can hold together for the next 3-1/2 years.
GrannyDee on September 13, 2009 at 2:50 PM
Interesting postulate…
I have no clue what went on behind the scenes these years he’s been groomed for the Left’s president, but I find he has no skills a true leader needs to be successful. He’s passionate but he doesn’t persuade those who sit on the fence or are in opposition. Hitler did better, really–Hitler managed to win complacency among Germans who opposed him; they figured he would burn out in a short time. Hitler appealed to the masses, where Obama preaches only to his own choir. If he gets a lift, and the numbers will tell, it’s more likely from among his own.
Yes, he’s egotistical out the ass but he also knows he has backing from those who have money and have anointed him. Like he’s trying to sell us a bill of goods, he’s been sold the same thing. What is now being ignored is that, according to the Left years ago, Bill Clinton was the first black president. In effect, according to the law of unintended consequences by the Left, Obama rides on Bill’s coattails like Hillary has done for decades.
Obama is being played to be a player. He knows this, but he’s been soothed so his ego leads him to believe he’ll go down in history. He;s a puppet, to be sure, but his ego is so large he’ll take actions on his own over and above hiding how much of a puppet he really is.
When things get beyond him, he’ll lash out. He already called his opposition liars before a choir of Dems who call us racists and such. He’ll be advised, but at some point his ego will cause him to throw that away. Then he’ll lash out for sure, with all his venom.
In the end, Obama will let the Dem Party collapse if he can’t have the golden fleece, like Hitler did. Hitler wrote that if he has to go down he’s taking all Germany with him.
Obama can be expected to do the same, if his numbers seriously tank. Right now that’s not an available option, for the MSM still has a measure of authority.
Yes, he’ll sink them with all venom. I believe he was promised things that can’t be guaranteed. If all that doesn’t come to pass, he’ll turn on the Dems and rip them to shreds.
Apologies to all for being so wordy. This was my ‘short’ version.
Liam on September 13, 2009 at 2:51 PM
The guy who flipped Hillary the bird during the primaries is worried about a “coarsening” of the political dialogue?
Funny.
AZCoyote on September 13, 2009 at 2:51 PM
methinks you may be right!
becki51758 on September 13, 2009 at 2:52 PM
A question I wish would get asked of the President;
Respond, if you’d like, in the style of the President (since this will never be asked.)
massrighty on September 13, 2009 at 2:53 PM
Upstater85 on September 13, 2009 at 2:44 PM
Excellant
fourdeucer on September 13, 2009 at 2:54 PM
canopfor on September 13, 2009 at 2:15 PM
methinks you may be right!
becki51758 on September 13, 2009 at 2:52 PM
becki51758:)
canopfor on September 13, 2009 at 2:59 PM
Rules? In a knife fight?
Kenosha Kid on September 13, 2009 at 3:01 PM
That’s what I heard too. Loud and clear.
petefrt on September 13, 2009 at 3:03 PM
Key question then becomes…
Is Obama a DEMOCRAT? ie… does he care about the future of the Democrat Party?
Or, is he a Progresive Socialist who is USING the Democrat Parties apparatus to gain power, to complete his real aims…
Romeo13 on September 13, 2009 at 3:06 PM
That was my first thought. Obama sat in a “We hate whitey” church for 20 years, and Obama recently responded to spending protesters by telling a Dem group that non-supporters should shut up and get out of the way?
Sorry, pal. You’re a d*ck.
BuckeyeSam on September 13, 2009 at 3:06 PM
That song will be playing in my head come the next presidential election…
Upstater85 on September 13, 2009 at 3:06 PM
YES!
Rule 1: Bring a gun…
Romeo13 on September 13, 2009 at 3:07 PM
With 400 million guns in private American hands, that’s going to be impossible.
Liam on September 13, 2009 at 3:07 PM
Obama, trained 20 years at the feet of the Rev ‘God D-mn America’ Wright, is hardly the One to decry a ‘coarsening of our political dialogue’
entagor on September 13, 2009 at 3:07 PM
He’s like Eddie Haskell.
Mark1971 on September 13, 2009 at 3:09 PM
Isn’t that rather like an arsonist saying he is concerned about fires?
MB4 on September 13, 2009 at 3:10 PM
Wow, this is so new. A coarsening of our political dialogue never happened when republicans controled congress and the Presidentcy. Only now that democrats control everything do we need some civility. In other words, we must shut up and go along with liberal plans. Ha ha, sorry Barack, you can’t have it both ways. Stop being a total hypocrite and expecting us not to notice.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Wk8glIse9s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hi-V_ilJu0w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5KJFfrMB3M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sOlaso_7Z8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5H2S30IyvI
Dollayo on September 13, 2009 at 3:11 PM
The Dem Party fits his values, and no one can aspire to political office without being identified as a Party member on either of the two main sides.
Obama is in this much for himself, but he’s torn by need to be ‘identified’ as part of a group. But if the ‘group’ doesn’t give the backing he desires, he’ll turn on them like a lead wolf will against any threats. Right now the Right is threat, an enemy of the group to which he belongs. But when he bombs and his own group turns on him, he’ll burn his own home to save it, as it were.
In reference, note how the Left turned on Cindy Sheehan. The Left is always willing to consume its own when it feels need.
Liam on September 13, 2009 at 3:12 PM
If President Obama wants to improve the language in the health care debate, then he should stop calling millions of Americans “liars” every time he gives a speech on health care reform. Especially if he continues to make factually challenged comments himself.
Ordinary American on September 13, 2009 at 3:13 PM
Changing the subject a bit but how’s Cass Sunstein going to fit into Obama’s $100/LB whitehouse dinners?
larvcom on September 13, 2009 at 3:14 PM
Hmmm. Maybe he needs to appoint a Civility Czar. Snort.
He’d have a smidgeon of credibility if he himself didn’t go around calling anyone who points out any of the myriad fallacies, fabulations, flaws and falsehoods in his own rhetoric a liar.
starboardhelm on September 13, 2009 at 3:17 PM
After drinking a potion of his own, Saul Alinsky’s and Jeremiah Wright’s creation, Barry is transformed into the cruel, remorseless, evil Herr Hussein, representing the hidden side of Obama’s dual nature brought to the fore. Barry has many friends and has a pleasing personality, but as Herr Hussein he becomes more and more dictatorial, encourages violence and becomes ever more fascist like as time goes by as Herr Hussein grows in dominance. After taking this potion repetitively, he will no longer need to rely upon it to unleash all his inner fascist demons.
Sigmund on September 13, 2009 at 3:20 PM
FIFY, there, Bucko.
bluelightbrigade on September 13, 2009 at 3:21 PM
+++ :-)
starboardhelm on September 13, 2009 at 3:21 PM
Translation: I can speak anyway I want about the Proletariat, but they have no right to criticize anything I do or call me on it when I lie.
kingsjester on September 13, 2009 at 3:23 PM
Obama: (Slying flipping you the bird while pretending to think about the question.) Let me be clear. Uh, I don’t have all the facts yet, but you must be a raaacist liar.
starboardhelm on September 13, 2009 at 3:24 PM
Divider, not uniter
Schadenfreude on September 13, 2009 at 3:27 PM
I don’t think Barry Hussein transformed anywhere. He started with a premise in his own head tears ago and sought places to justify himself. What he largely says is fake; the ‘real’ him slips out now and again. No one can fully avoid being what they are.
A lot out there is going to influence his future reactions. Poll results, the Dem Party, and all those he holds close. We have limited effect. The one who will influence his future actions will be from among those nearest him. We’re a sideline, the target right now.
Only time will tell what Hussein does, depending on how bad he ‘disappoints’ the Left.
Liam on September 13, 2009 at 3:28 PM
He’d reply, in general language, that we all had said somethings that were misunderstood, and we all had to do better.
Me, I’d just ask “Mr. President, haven’t you lied enough?”
I’d have thought the Secret Service would make a point of tracking such things…
Chris_Balsz on September 13, 2009 at 3:30 PM
Interesting thoughts…
Just trying to figure this out for meself… but…
The VAST majority of Republicans are Fiscal Conservatives… wanting smaller government… yet the Bush Admin and Republican controlled Congress went the other direction… ie… they were out of “tune” with much of their base.
I wonder if the Democrats are not going though the same identity crises, but this time with the Progresives/Socialists suddenly in power, leaving much of their base behind….
I know of a LOT of people who are basicly Social Moderates or Libertarians, who self identify and vote Democrat… but these people are NOT far Left like the Reid/Pelosi/Obama cabal… yet that is the agenda that is being shoved down their throat as well….
Romeo13 on September 13, 2009 at 3:30 PM
Hey, Barry:
If you’re so opposed to “coarse dialogue”, tell us again how you spent 20 years in Jeremiah’s “church”? Aren’t you pals with Bernadine “Dig it” Dorhn? Didn’t Jodie “Code Pink” Evans bundle oodles of campaign cash for you and then go on to use coarse tactics to disrupt the GOP convention?
Maybe you think we were born yesterday, but we know that you weren’t. You’re a man with a past and for all your sanctimonious, honey-tongued speechifying, “coarse” doesn’t begin to describe it.
Buy Danish on September 13, 2009 at 3:31 PM
Coarsening because governance is worsening.
shaken on September 13, 2009 at 3:33 PM
The USSR has come and gone; the Soviet rule of East Berlin has come and gone; anyone with the stomach to do so can poke through the rubble of post-Communist Russia and Germany, read released segments of KGB and STASI archives, talk to people who lived in that world and hear what their wretched lives were like: see their 3-room walkup apartments and look at their 2-cylinder cars and their plastic shoes and clothing, and learn about their medical and dental care and their diet and the grim, grey, grimy world they inhabited.
For a half-century of Cold War, we in the U.S. taxed ourselves trillions of dollars for defense, and accepted tens of thousands of our people killed and injured, in a war that eventually freed the Berliners, among others, from Communism.
But a few months ago, with the entire bloody history of the 20th century as background, today’s Commies rioted, as usual, on May Day in Red Berlin.
But BY GOD I’d love to see the Lefties’ beloved Communism re-instituted! I’d love to see it shoved up the Lefties ALL the way to the hilt — and broken off. I’d love to see every Leftie who swoons at the glories of Socialism compelled to LIVE under it for two centuries, since most of one century evidently wasn’t long enough to give them a clue.
Stick it in slowly and covertly, Obama-Socialist fashion, if necessary. Or stick it in openly and briskly, euro-Socialist style, if possible. Whatever the tactics, I say GIVE people the Socialism they so deeply crave. I’ll leave the world a smiling, happy man if I can see that justice done.
HalJordan on September 13, 2009 at 3:34 PM
… we know the drill that defines his leadership, for better and worse. When trouble lurks, No Drama Obama stays calm as everyone around him goes ballistic. Then he waits — and waits …
This is Presidential leadership ? We might as well have Chance Gardner as President.
J_Crater on September 13, 2009 at 3:35 PM
For me, the Republican Party hasn’t represented me for 20 years. I consider them Democrat Lite. And, if you give them too much power right now, they’ll be the same thing.
Dems have no identity crisis near as I can tell. They know what they want and they’re going for it.
Years ago, in the 90s, I watched the Socialist Party state its platform. It was exactly the Dem platform, to a tee!
They know what they’re doing. The RNC has no clue. It’s a contest to see who can empty the Treasury first, while also claiming ‘family’ or ‘social’ values.
Total wastes of time–I’m Conservative so I don’t want any Party telling me what’s best for my family as we choose to believe in our own house.
I say to screw political parties but that’s not realistic; they exist and won’t be going away. So, I try talking details based on the Constitution and leave people to vote as they will.
A pain of representative democracy, but the beauty is that we can affect change later.
Liam on September 13, 2009 at 3:40 PM
What dialogue?
“Shut up. I won!”
Connie on September 13, 2009 at 3:50 PM
Obama’s fantastic hypocrisy will naturally be craftfully ignored by 60 minutes. It just turns the stomach…
Danzo on September 13, 2009 at 3:52 PM
..is it just me, or is this naton going into “Obama Overload”? Last week he played “Dear Leader” on Tuesday to all the school kiddies througout the nation. Then on Wednesday, he held forth with the scare tactics in front of both houses of congress. Friday, he gave an uninspired address on the occasion of 9/11 and Saturday he was in Minnesota talkign about this health care plan.
On Monday, he will be giving a talk to the nation on the one-year anniversry of the finncial collapse (that propelled him into offcie, by the way). And now we find out that this clown is going to YET AGAIN appear on 60 minutes.
So, how many times has the Pantload-in-Chief appered on the cover of Time and Newseek?
Hell, even if this clod was a charismatic, conservative president, I would be sick of him. Now, he is beyond tedious and I feel like he’s already been in office for about 14 yers.
..wake me when it’s 2013, please.
VoyskaPVO on September 13, 2009 at 3:52 PM
Yep, as others have said, when you’ve got mainstream media and hollyweird on your side it’s pretty easy to get away with anything. The 0ne is using every advantage, to get away with his personal agenda, not help the country.
4shoes on September 13, 2009 at 3:53 PM
I sympathize completely, but you’ve got to get up earlier than that to vote him out!!!!
4shoes on September 13, 2009 at 3:56 PM
The One sees a “a coarsening of our political dialogue?” He must be looking in the teleprompter.
Blackacre on September 13, 2009 at 3:58 PM
Now he’s on 60 Minutes this week too?
Gotta hand it to the guy. He just keeps on keepin’ on, overexposure be damned.
Hawkins1701 on September 13, 2009 at 4:02 PM
At the rate in which Obama keeps demonizing the Right,
and keeps up with the labelling,its only a matter of
time before the Republican Party stops talking to the
Left!
So is that by design!
Is that the Liberals Partys end game!!
canopfor on September 13, 2009 at 4:10 PM
I cant quite put my finger on it,but I think there is a poignant truth in this quote.
canditaylor68 on September 13, 2009 at 4:13 PM
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