Video: Tea partiers chant “Glenn Beck” during CNN live shot
posted at 3:37 pm on September 12, 2009 by Allahpundit
Revenge for the now legendary Susan Roesgen incident via TV Newser. Watch to the end or else you’ll miss the crowd reaction when she asks about Joe Wilson.
Update: To the great surprise of exactly no one, Wilson has now outraised opponent Rob Miller since Wednesday night’s ourburst.
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He’s getting them all wee-weed up.
Daggett on September 12, 2009 at 5:47 PM
There is no evidence that CNN, in their coverage of this protest, painted the supports as fanatics.
Please show me otherwise. CNN had no control over how the supporters reacted when the reporter brought up Wilson or when the camera started rolling.
ckoeber on September 12, 2009 at 5:47 PM
You always rally your base first. Its what you need motivated to win.
Then you need to democralize the oppositions base. You want them to stay home on election day.
The independants will swing to the party that does the first two steps the best. It has always worked that way.
William Amos on September 12, 2009 at 5:48 PM
Yeah and it puts a face on the conservatives too! People like winners not a bunch of whiners and weiners
sonnyspats1 on September 12, 2009 at 5:48 PM
OK. A lot of people were there.
Who says anyone will? Who cares? Democrat “ideas” aren’t such great shakes electorally these days.
ddrintn on September 12, 2009 at 5:50 PM
Sorry that should have read “you need to demoralize the opposition’s base so they dont vote”
William Amos on September 12, 2009 at 5:51 PM
Miller started with a 400k campaign debt so whatever the MSM reports you need to subtract 450k to get his net gain of contributions, As reported by Rushmo on Yesterday.
sonnyspats1 on September 12, 2009 at 5:51 PM
Update: From the Trib story: “The office said Kelly died of salicylate intoxication. According to medical reference guides, salicylates are used in anti-inflammatory and pain relief medications. An autopsy is scheduled for Sunday.”
as AllahPundit would say, Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
elduende on September 12, 2009 at 5:51 PM
450k to relpace 400k *
sonnyspats1 on September 12, 2009 at 5:52 PM
That was a rather impressive show of popular concern…at least a million or perhaps more, folks made their way to the mall!
I have to compliment Glen and the worldwide presence of the Fox News Network for working their special kinda magic!
“Coo Duos”… gals and guys…!
Especially you Glen!
Keep on keepin’… ON…!
Geezer on September 12, 2009 at 5:52 PM
WTF? So just a campaign that says “Elect me, the other side sucks?”
Let’s face it. Obama bashed Bush and McCain but he did present ideas. Plenty of them you didn’t like but they were there.
ckoeber on September 12, 2009 at 5:53 PM
Okay, Allahpundit, I sometimes get really irked with you, but that was, well, awesome!!
texanpride on September 12, 2009 at 5:53 PM
Yeah, except all of Obama’s ideas were lies.
texanpride on September 12, 2009 at 5:54 PM
I love the smell of wee-wee in the afternoon. It smells like…victory.
bikermailman on September 12, 2009 at 5:55 PM
I’m a Yankee Doodle Dandy
Yankee Doodle do or die
A real outspoken nephew of my Uncle Sam
I didn’t come to Washington just to sit and hear Obama lie
I’ve got a Yankee doodle disposition
Exposing Obama and his cronies is a real joy
Yankee doodle came to Washington to expose all the donkey baloney
Say, I am a Yankee Doodle Boy
MB4 on September 12, 2009 at 5:56 PM
Wilson show go to the floor of the House and say:
“I’m sorry I shouted out the truth during a nakedly partisan speech which was a compact of lies, half-truths, calculated invective, and intentional distortions. I know how this can disrupt the orderly flow of disinformation and derail the Delusion Express that the majority of the Congress and this Administration are now suffering under. Next time I’ll wait until the farce has concluded before I comment on the outrageous level of prevarication that we had to endure from this math- and truth-challenged Chief Executive. Thank you.”
I’ll send him a grand if he even comes close.
profitsbeard on September 12, 2009 at 5:57 PM
Energize your base with “NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO!“?
C’mon. That is what you can sum up the current state of affairs with this opposition.
How about rallying around the Flat Tax or something SUPER SIMPLE but powerful?
Independants won’t come onboard with people who offer nothing new.
What new ideas are being presented?
ckoeber on September 12, 2009 at 5:57 PM
You mean he’s firing his supporters, right?
Van Jones, Yosi Sergant, ACORN
ROCnPhilly on September 12, 2009 at 5:58 PM
When I saw the update, the first thing that popped into my mind was that you just KNOW that other congress critters, from both sides of the isle now wish they had said it!
Joe Wilson, best known House Rep in the country at the moment.
Jim708 on September 12, 2009 at 5:59 PM
I’d agree here. What happens if Healthcare reform passes?
Imagine all of the people showing up to protest but the bill passes anyway.
That’d be a downer.
ckoeber on September 12, 2009 at 6:00 PM
shhh or anonynous will come after you too.
sonnyspats1 on September 12, 2009 at 6:00 PM
Yep!
Just like CNN would have “no control” over the reaction if a reporter brought up George W. Bush at a Lib anti-war rally.
Yeah, “no control” at all.
David2.0 on September 12, 2009 at 6:00 PM
Update: From the Trib story: “The office said Kelly died of salicylate intoxication. According to medical reference guides, salicylates are used in anti-inflammatory and pain relief medications. An autopsy is scheduled for Sunday.”
as AllahPundit would say, Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
elduende on September 12, 2009 at 5:51 PM
Aspirin ! Heh!
Flying 50 Star US
Caststeel on September 12, 2009 at 6:01 PM
If burning down my house is the current plan, then not burning down my house is the best first plan.
ROCnPhilly on September 12, 2009 at 6:01 PM
I travel a lot, I have to go through airports. Why must I have to watch CNN (not that I do)? I assume if you take away their airport ratings their numbers would fall precipitiously. This is something has has really bothered me and I’ve written to airport commissions and others, but no one answers. Anyone know?
hip shot on September 12, 2009 at 6:03 PM
Ain’t it great how GOP has the good Joes? First Joe Wurzelbacher then Joe Wilson.
Adding to the metaphor is Joe Biden on the other side.
Flying 50 Star US
Caststeel on September 12, 2009 at 6:07 PM
Hold tight, the Democrat’s party’s almost over
Hold tight till then the nation’s in for even nastier weather
There has got to be some better way
Burning down their own party’s house
Here’s their ticket, they can pack their bags, time to throw them overboard
New transportation to Cuba is coming near
Close enough but not too far, maybe they don’t even know anymore where they are
Fightin fire with fire
All wet
Hey Obama, you might need a fireman’s coat
Meltdown
Your dreams fading in broad daylight
Three hun-dred six-ty five de-grees
Burning down their own party’s house
It was once upon a time most listened to them
Now they’re gonna come in no place
The Democrats are on their way to Hell, what did they expect
Gonna burst into flame
Democrat party
No longer distinguishable from a third world ordinary
That’s right
They don’t want to offend some leftest nobody
Some things sure can knock them dead on their feet
Burning down their own party’s house
MB4 on September 12, 2009 at 6:07 PM
I just got back from a long day away from the ‘net (but watched the wall-to-wall Beck coverage, so If I’m repeating something, I apologize, but didn’t see it in this thread.):
We are direct witnesses to history. Serially. If, if this thing ends up turning around, it is absolutely going to go down as the movement that saved the United States of America. If it doesn’t (and I weep when I think it could be so), I believe future civilizations will mark it as the moment in history when the citizenry of the USA tried to take their country back, but were defeated by a corrupt and immoral gob’ment. (The phrase Nero fiddled while Rome burned has been running through my mind for some time…Thank God we are not “fiddlin”!)
God bless those Patriots (capitalized on purpose) for attending the rallies, be they in D.C. or elsewhere. Wish I could have attended, and said prayers for their safety.
Anyway…because it is historic, regardless of which way it turns out, it is but another example of the complete corruption, in fact criminality of the MSM for not covering it. At least CNN gave it lip service, but I promise you they think this coverage shored up their point, not the other way around. And that there’s funny, I don’t care who you are!
Chewy the Lab on September 12, 2009 at 6:07 PM
You’re a cretin.
angryed on September 12, 2009 at 6:08 PM
NO is the best response to the idiocy Obama’s been proposing. Your precious polls have been bearing this out, too.
ddrintn on September 12, 2009 at 6:08 PM
What is an independant? I thought all you libs were mensa members. But you can’t spell a word that is in the news about 1000 times a day.
Once again…you’re a cretin.
angryed on September 12, 2009 at 6:10 PM
Hmm, downer? Nah.
Infuriating motivation beyond what we’re witnessing today? Hell yes.
Midas on September 12, 2009 at 6:13 PM
Don’t forget acorn! They offer free head of the line status at the welfare office plus your choice of underage el salvadorean or mexican prostitutes ! Just praise the massa and mark the yes box on whatever he says.
flyoverboy on September 12, 2009 at 6:13 PM
No, Barry presented platitudes with no specifics. He allowed you to fill in the blanks. 5 people could hear the same speech and come away believing Barry was fulfilling the wishes of 5 different people.
I’m going to ‘fix’ the economy so this won’t happen again.
I’m going to roll back the deficit.
I’m going to ‘fix’ the health care system.
I’m not going to raise taxes.
NOT HEARD IN THE DIN:
I’m for $4 gallon gasoline.
I’m for skyrocketing electrical rates (think green).
I’m for amnesty.
I’m for traditional marriage.
GarandFan on September 12, 2009 at 6:15 PM
Just curious as to why you are defending CNN here. Are you Wolfman Blitzer’s brother or something?
Remember that this sad excuse for a “news organization” falsely accused the US of nerve-gassing civilians in Laos, covered up Saddam Hussein’s atrocities for a decade, and then had its CEO resign in disgrace after he falsely accused the US military of murdering Iraqi journalists.
Del Dolemonte on September 12, 2009 at 6:16 PM
Yeh gotta be more specific, “shooter’…!
Geezer on September 12, 2009 at 6:17 PM
Hate to be a spoil sport, I really, really try to be positive, but you do know that Soros etal are going to make it official “bid-ness” to defeat Wilson.
Whatever amount of money Joe raises, his opponent can sit back and do nothing and get much more $. So, it has to be about ideas, and I think it will be. The right ideas are the only thing that can stop this. On that, Beck is so very right.
Speaking of Beck, he talked about finding re-formers to take back the country and quarantine D.C. to root out the corruption. Funny, I’ve often thought that ALL of US: the millions of people who are being very, very vocal are playing the role of “re-framers”.
I’ll betcha for every Madison, Franklin, Hancock, et al, there were legions of anonymous (now)Patriots whose names have been long forgotten.
The prestige isn’t what it is about. Think about it, maybe this is one of the reasons we have been put on this Earth. Now, if that sounds narcissistic, I don’t mean for it too. My great grandchildren could give a rats rearend what I thought about or cared about or stood for. But if I can help change one person’s mind, or get one signature on something that might get a legislator to vote against usurpation of our freedom, then man, that makes me proud!
I’m happy to have other, braver, more articulate people be the one’s that are remembered. But I’m tickled to death to be a witness to history.
Guess that’s really corny.
Chewy the Lab on September 12, 2009 at 6:21 PM
Why is limiting government and telling people to work harder and creating new jobs via industry and commerce considered a lack of ideas ? Its a very valid idea and concept that seems to be alien to anyone on the left.
I agree the right is allowing it’s message to be written by the other side but to say that those ideas arent really ideas is the height of ignorance.
William Amos on September 12, 2009 at 6:24 PM
FIFY
Chewy the Lab on September 12, 2009 at 6:24 PM
You’ll have to excuse Chris, he’s just jealous of all the comments AP and Ed get here. I just went to his blog, and he actually had a post trying to question Ed’s logic. His reference source? wiki.
BYW, not all libs are Mensa members. Many are Densa members-O’bama did after all win a record percentage of the high school dropout vote (70%).
Del Dolemonte on September 12, 2009 at 6:26 PM
Was nationalenquirer.com down?
angryed on September 12, 2009 at 6:29 PM
This fund raising for Wilson is great. But I doubt this will be much of a race in 2010. If things continue to slide into hell – and I don’t think anyone doubt they will – Wilson will win in a landslide without spending a dime. He is the incumbent after all, he won in 2008 by a faily comfortable margin. And if as a Republican you won in 2008, well shit, you’ll win just about any election from now on. Hopefully he will send that $1M over to candidates like Harry Reid’s opponent and other big game hunters.
angryed on September 12, 2009 at 6:32 PM
‘profits…’
Some might say …”There’s a “bit of a hitch in Joe’s git-a-long”…?
Wadda yeh thunk…?
Geezer on September 12, 2009 at 6:34 PM
CNN was having a lot of time devoted to Wilson’s opponent and how he raised so much money. TJ is such a piece of work and obviously an arrogant sob, needs to look for a job with ACORN. He would fit right in.
wepeople on September 12, 2009 at 6:36 PM
Again, watching the video where are you getting the “fanatic” vibe?
I simply stated that CNN brought up Joe Wilson and people cheered. I never even suggested that the protesters are fanatics.
You want to spin this and say that CNN portrayed them as bad people/fanatics/crazy. There isn’t any evidence of that.
ckoeber on September 12, 2009 at 6:43 PM
More “not family friendly viewing”.
vcferlita on September 12, 2009 at 6:44 PM
Actually – I have to say – I liked that particular CNN reporter.
HondaV65 on September 12, 2009 at 6:45 PM
OK, but why not have your cake and eat it two?
Why not offer some solutions with the “NO! NO! NO!”?
The conservatives here had (and still have) plenty of time to say how they propose to fix the current problems, On top of that, there is plenty of time to wrap it into a consistant message that people outside the base can get.
ckoeber on September 12, 2009 at 6:48 PM
Question might be…?
Is Rob Miller gonna sit on his hands with more than a million bucks under his belt?
What’s your evaluation of a “Marine’s” perseverance…?
Geezer on September 12, 2009 at 6:50 PM
Update: From the Trib story: “The office said Kelly died of salicylate intoxication. According to medical reference guides, salicylates are used in anti-inflammatory and pain relief medications. An autopsy is scheduled for Sunday.”
as AllahPundit would say, Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
elduende on September 12, 2009
salicylates? AKA acetylsalicylic , AKA Aspirin?
Died from Aspirin?
Was the Aspirin formed into a .38 cal bullet?
How TF does someone die from Aspirin?
DSchoen on September 12, 2009 at 6:51 PM
Can’t you at least pick an insult that has more punch? Who uses cretin to insult people? Why not just say idiot?
I’ll let you take a few minutes to come up with a better insult.
ckoeber on September 12, 2009 at 6:51 PM
SWEET!
conservnut on September 12, 2009 at 6:52 PM
What does consistant mean? Is that like an independant but different?
Again, you are a cretin.
angryed on September 12, 2009 at 6:55 PM
Yes. NO, No, NO, NO, to SOCIALISM! Why can’t you Libs understand that!?
How about we rally around smaller government, return to capitalism, and respect for the U.S. Constitution? Oh, that’s right, we ARE rallying around those things.
You know what? Screw the Independents! Those spineless cowards will vote whichever way the wind is blowing. It was Independents that put Obama in office DESPITE all the evidence that he was a Marxist who really doesn’t like America all that much.
The Dem’s aren’t listening to Republican proposals of any kind! Are you dense? What wonderful “new ideas” did the Democrats bring forward when they were the minority party?
End the war? Anyone but Bush?
Stop being so disingenuous.
David2.0 on September 12, 2009 at 6:55 PM
You’re not a cretin. You’re not an idiot either.
You’re just a gnat; they have tiny brains.
Schadenfreude on September 12, 2009 at 6:56 PM
I wouldn’t expect a cretin to understand the meaning of the word cretin.
Ok you’re like totally dumb and stuff. More on your level.
angryed on September 12, 2009 at 6:56 PM
Plenty of them you didn’t like but they were there.
ckoeber on September 12,
Such as?
Or more to the point, ideas, promises that he has kept?
DSchoen on September 12, 2009 at 6:57 PM
LOL. So, your entire strategy is to focus on spelling errors.
Why not make fun of my name while you’re at it?
Same strategy.
ckoeber on September 12, 2009 at 7:00 PM
Lisa seemed perplexed by the cheering for Joe Wilson.
Why do I think that she shacks up with a bearded, pot smoking guy who’s been in college for five years and not really sure what he’s going to major in?
Maybe she should get out more or something. Go home and visit the folks and get a nice home cooked meal and sit on the porch a spell with normal people and talk about this stuff.
Dr. ZhivBlago on September 12, 2009 at 7:01 PM
I find this so funny. This whole ongoing thread was to say that (1) CNN didn’t report the supporters as fanatics and (2) present ideas while you are protesting.
Instead of actually finding things to support or refute those points, angryed decided to become my spellchecker and Del Dolemonte decides to criticize an article I wrote.
Keep going guys; you are doing great.
ckoeber on September 12, 2009 at 7:04 PM
Yep, that’s how you show someone who’s boss.
Dude, if you didn’t have anything to add other than spellcheck or call people names why did you join the discussion?
ckoeber on September 12, 2009 at 7:06 PM
Errrrrrrrrrr what?
Obama has adopted Bush policies
The Obama Justice Department Adopts the George W. Bush …
Mar 7, 2009 … The Obama Justice Department has adopted a legal stance … By the way, those Bush documents are Office of Legal Counsel memos, not policy
Charles Krauthammer – Obama Adopts the Bush Approach to the War on…
Within 125 days, Obama has adopted with only minor modifications huge … is accompanied by the usual Obama three-step: (a) excoriate the Bush policy,
Bush Validation? Check Obama’s Policies — Courant.com
Within 125 days, Obama has adopted with only minor modifications huge swaths … The Bush policies in the war on terror won’t have to await vindication by …
DSchoen on September 12, 2009 at 7:08 PM
We’re not the party of “NO”.
We’re the party of “HELL NO”.
And you Libbies who don’t like it – here’s a cryin’ towel because – it’s working for us. Make all the allegations you want.
Any fool watching the protests today could easily surmise that a train is leaving the station and … the lefties are missing it.
But don’t worry – it’s coming back around to hit ‘em next year.
I want these fools to be in deep denial – I want them to continue to think they have a mandate. I want them pushing down this socialist road as hard as they can. Why? Because for the first time in my life – I think we can eliminate these bastards and put the Democratic party in the dog house for a few generations.
Let them do their worst.
HondaV65 on September 12, 2009 at 7:13 PM
Yah, but Rob’s gotta ah million bucks he didn’t have in 2006…!
Problem fer Joe…?
Geezer on September 12, 2009 at 7:14 PM
No … it’s not a problem for two reasons …
1. Rob has a 1.3 Million dollar debt to pay off from the last failed campaign. None of his current contributions are going to contribute to his next campaign – unless he wants an even larger debt at the end of it.
2. That district is scarlett red. Rob could get a Trillion – and it would not matter in that district.
HondaV65 on September 12, 2009 at 7:17 PM
Oh … I forgot to add a third reason.
Joe Wilson is now a hero to the voters in that district.
HondaV65 on September 12, 2009 at 7:18 PM
The D’s went more liberal with ideas and worked in all fifty states. The “Howard Dean Fifty State“.
The GOP is at a crossroads. On one hand the base wants to end ‘socialism’ but on the other much of the base is on social security and Medicare. Look at the crowds showing up. Many of the are in their fifties and older.
As for “screwing the independents”, well, there you go. That’s your ticket back…
ckoeber on September 12, 2009 at 7:22 PM
The update that Wilson has outraised Miller was incorrect. There is an update in the POLITICO story to this effect.
rjl1999 on September 12, 2009 at 7:27 PM
Ending “socialism” doesn’t have to mean that all elderly people drawing Medicare and Social Security get cut off.
The idea would be to “phase out” those programs once we’ve put in place private sector solutions to retirement income and care.
There is no Republican now, or ever – who has called for an immediate end to SS or Medicare.
If you’re going to argue here – you need to know a little bit about what we stand for.
HondaV65 on September 12, 2009 at 7:28 PM
So 46% blue, in a hot red district is “leftovers”…?
…and Rob Miller isn’t a “Marine Hero” to everyone in that South Carolina District…?
Olde soldier sends…!
Geezer on September 12, 2009 at 7:29 PM
It really doesn’t matter – Miller ran and lost by 10 points in an election where all Democrats had the benefit of BHO’s coat tails.
And now Wilson is a hero – and he’s in a scarlet red district. Let the libbies throw all the $$ they can at Miller – won’t make a difference.
Money doesn’t really make that much difference in Congressional Representative races. Districts aren’t that big – a good guy or gal can knock on enough doors to make up for lack of cash.
But – cash is really not a problem for Wilson – and he’s still getting money coming in. And will continue to.
There’s really nothing to see in that race except a lot of liberals flushing money down the toilet – which is hilarious I’ll admit … but not unusual. In this case – it just happens to be THEIR money and not ours. That’s the unusual part.
HondaV65 on September 12, 2009 at 7:33 PM
Here is where your strategy worked. You managed to create confusion over what is happening and to blur all of the different proposals on the table together.
But to now claim vitory on this is premature. You don’t have any indication of this being representative of America.
It is a nice thought but most of the people protesting were nstaunch Republicans anyway.
ckoeber on September 12, 2009 at 7:34 PM
Geezer – how many terrorists has miller killed since the 2008 election to make him any more of a hero in 2010?
I would submit none. He did alright with being a vet and riding on Obama’s coat tails – but the pulse of the nation has changed – and Democrats are not going to have the Obama “boost” in 2010 – in fact – quite the opposite.
He lost by ten points mate – and that was in a year when Democrats swept everything.
Nothing to see here.
HondaV65 on September 12, 2009 at 7:35 PM
So exactly why would a reporter make a report in a crowd of hundreds of thousands and be surprised there would be noise.
CNN just doesn’t get it and they never will.
truegrits on September 12, 2009 at 7:37 PM
I disagree – look at the polls – they all show Obama and the Democrats in a tremendous free fall. You should not ignore this fact.
And something else …
As unpopular as Bush was – the left never organized anything close to 500,000 people marching on D.C. – much less a million.
Every where you look is a sign that says dems are in for a train wreck.
HondaV65 on September 12, 2009 at 7:37 PM
How many people marched on DC?
rjl1999 on September 12, 2009 at 7:38 PM
Estimates range from 300K to 2M.
Regardless – it was an overwhelming success.
HondaV65 on September 12, 2009 at 7:42 PM
Hah! You think a majority of the people who are retired or close to retirement will support something like that?
They feel that is something they EARNED.
But, let’s actually get to the policy merit of that proposal. Explain how that would work out.
ckoeber on September 12, 2009 at 7:42 PM
There wasn’t 500,000 people protesting today! I live about five blocks from the capitol (in Capitol Hill for those familiar). If there were that many people the streets would be swamped for a ten/fifteen block radius.
There was probably 100,000 MAXIMUM protesters today. Impressive, mind you, but not 500,000.
As for the anit-war/anti-Bush protests, the left mustered 300,000 in 2003 without the help of something like Fox News.
As for the polls, Obama isn’t in a freefall. Obama normalized at 50% approval which is where most Presidents hang for a while until they get a success.
ckoeber on September 12, 2009 at 7:49 PM
I resemble that remark…and second it!
Slightly OT: has anyone heard of any SEIU, ACORN or other astroturfers harrassing those gathered at these protests? I’m encouraged that there–thus far–has been no spin about “violence.”
Any thoughts that they may be re-directing (not calling off mind you)the dogs because this tactic failed miserably???
Would love to hear from any of you that were either at the event, or heard from someone who was there what there was in the way of opposition.
All I’m hearing right now is…crickets.
Chewy the Lab on September 12, 2009 at 7:51 PM
HV65… before you jump on “Marine Rob Miller’s” bonafides…
Yah just might wanna check Congressman [Joe] Addison Graves Wilson Sr’s,voting record…!
Or not…?
Geezer on September 12, 2009 at 7:53 PM
There is some truth to this, despite ckoeber’s overall idiocy.
If conservatives and Republicans are truly ready to return to limited government and the Constitution, then welfare, Social Security, Medicare/Medicaid, Department of Education, etc. all need to go. And I’m not so sure how many people in this movement are willing to go that far.
As I’ve said before, the vast majority of the people in this country, on both the right and the left, are fine with socialism. The disagreement is more over how far that socialism should go. The mainstream conservative crowd wants it stopped, while the left-liberals want a whole lot more of it.
Does this present conservative uprising really care about the Constitution? Do they really care about ending socialism? Or is this primarily about something else, something to do with stopping socialism where it is and cutting down on corruption? I’m confident in the latter, but as far as the former goes I have yet to be convinced.
2Brave2Bscared on September 12, 2009 at 7:54 PM
Honda, I’m fine with such a strategy. I hate those unconstitutional socialist programs, but I know they can’t be demolished overnight, especially when you have so many people dependent on them.
But are people within mainstream conservatism really willing to do this? Are Republican politicians willing to “phase out” Social Security? It’s been a long time since I’ve heard a mainstream Republican politician talk about doing such “radical” reform.
2Brave2Bscared on September 12, 2009 at 7:59 PM
LOL. It’s OK to say someone is right once in a while.I didn’t call anyone names or belittle anyone here.
ckoeber on September 12, 2009 at 7:59 PM
Bwahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!11!1!1
Thanks ck. I needed a good laugh today. Obama bashed Bush? You don’t say! And I thought he got elected because everyone loved Bush, they just loved Obama a little bit more. You know, because he presented ideas that everyone loved so much. Like all those folks in Washington today…
Onus on September 12, 2009 at 8:01 PM
And, as for the actual sentiment expressed, the answer is no.
Republicans will do what they always do. Rant and rail about the government, get elected, and then spend on the military (as if that isn’t the government) while deregulating for big business and doing nothing for anything else.
The famous example of this, besides Bush, is Ronald Reagan. Talked shit about the government but tripled the national deficit.
ckoeber on September 12, 2009 at 8:04 PM
OK, so you agree. You could have said that.
ckoeber on September 12, 2009 at 8:07 PM
Like you said…
Like I said…
Like I said again…
Don’t let that big arse bike fall over on you, and burn yer leg…!
Geezer on September 12, 2009 at 8:07 PM
I hope you’re wrong, but I fear you’re right. We’ll see.
2Brave2Bscared on September 12, 2009 at 8:10 PM
Bwahahahaha!!!!!eleventy!!11!!1!11
Again! Stop…stop…can’t…breath…
I love it! 300K people just happen to show up at the same time for the same thing without any advertisement or coordination. Beautiful!
It’s like that Monty Python skit about the four Yorkshiremen:
FOURTH YORKSHIREMAN:
Who’d have thought thirty year ago we’d all be sittin’ here [in the Whitehouse (ed.)] drinking Château de Chasselas, eh?
FIRST YORKSHIREMAN:
In them days we was glad to have the price of a cup o’ tea.
SECOND YORKSHIREMAN:
A cup o’ cold tea.
FOURTH YORKSHIREMAN:
Without milk or sugar.
THIRD YORKSHIREMAN:
Or tea.
FIRST YORKSHIREMAN:
In a cracked cup, an’ all.
FOURTH YORKSHIREMAN:
Oh, we never had a cup. We used to have to drink out of a rolled up newspaper.
SECOND YORKSHIREMAN:
The best we could manage was to suck on a piece of damp cloth.
Onus on September 12, 2009 at 8:13 PM
I never said they didn’t coordinate. What I said was that they didn’t have Fox News (meaning a major news organization) announcing day in and day out that they were going to protest on said day.
They organized themselves.
ckoeber on September 12, 2009 at 8:19 PM
That was a great video, I thought that CNN handled it better than the April fiasco, can CNN learn objectivity not taking sides?
Dr Evil on September 12, 2009 at 8:36 PM
I just noticed that you were afraid to respond to the question I asked you in my prior post-why are you defending CNN?.
Only reason I can think of is that you don’t feel that the CNN journalistic ethics breaches I cited were bad?
Del Dolemonte on September 12, 2009 at 8:42 PM
Dude…major buzzkill. You had to bring in grown-up logic and fact-based truth. Personally I don’t watch any news channels so I didn’t know about today until yesterday. (sorry for the crazily worded sentence) I’m sure I read about it, but it didn’t stick with me. In any case, to folks to believe that ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, NPR, and yes, even FOX didn’t mention the protests in Jan/Feb 2003 is a bit of a stretch. With 2 Google searches I found announcements on both FOX and CNN (complete with dates, times, rally points, etc). Stopped at that point because it already disproved your assertion that no-one covered the build-up.
Onus on September 12, 2009 at 8:45 PM
I would rail against CNN when they suck. They normally do. But I won’t do what most people are doing here and create stupid outrage over something that doesn’t exist.
CNN didn’t set them up so that they would be seen as fanatics. Supporters, yes. Fanatics? NO.
ckoeber on September 12, 2009 at 8:51 PM
I agree Doc. When I checked CNN earlier their first instinct was that the protest was ‘filled with anger’ – complete with a leading image of one of the signs with a swastika on it, which they later toned down when the crowds started getting big. If they could overcome that initial instinct they could become an honest news organization again.
Kinda like that Seinfeld episode where George decides that every instinct he has is wrong so he decides to do the opposite. All of a sudden everything starts going his way.
Onus on September 12, 2009 at 8:52 PM
Please reread my sentence:
Announcing something is going to happen is different than PROMOTING something day in and day out.
ckoeber on September 12, 2009 at 8:54 PM
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