Feingold backing away from cap-and-trade?

posted at 10:10 am on September 12, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

Since the death of Paul Wellstone, no US Senator has as reliable a liberal voting record as Russ Feingold (D-WI).  On health care, for instance, Feingold has advocated for single payer, and at least on one occasion honestly admitted that a public option would serve as a Trojan horse for government-run health care.  The Poole Reports for the 110th and 109th sessions of Congress put Feingold firmly on the left wing of the chamber — although so far this year, Feingold has been one of the most centrist Democrats in the Senate.

What does that say about the prospects of cap-and-trade, one of the most cherished liberal policies on the Barack Obama agenda, when it’s too radical for Russ Feingold?

U.S. Sen. Russ Feingold is returning to Washington after what he called a “lively” round of county listening sessions during his August recess. Although the most high-profile issue has become health care reform, the Senate is under pressure to act on a number of other issues, including financial regulation and energy policy.

On the latter issue, he said the nation must do something to combat climate change, but he isn’t yet ready to commit to energy legislation with a so-called cap and trade provision for carbon emissions.

“I’m not signing onto any bill that rips off Wisconsin,” Feingold declared, arguing the bill’s mandatory caps on greenhouse gas emissions could put the coal-dependent Badger State at an economic disadvantage compared to other regions and nations.

What changed his mind?  Probably some good, old-fashioned “tea partying”:

At the same time, Feingold said he’s “troubled” by some of his constituents’ refusal to accept the principles of global warming, but agreed with some critics who have said the bill could stifle job growth in the industrial sector and increase energy prices.

“Western Wisconsin is particularly strong in being concerned about this because of their reliance on coal,” Feingold said of the bill, which has already passed the House. “There is a real possibility … that it will be unfair to Wisconsin and Wisconsin ratepayers.”

Obama has two separate but overlapping problems in the Senate for his cap-and-trade bill.  He will face the same contingent of Democrats that are skeptical about big-government solutions in health care, whose skepticism will grow for government-dictated energy production caps.  The bill will also get opposed on a regional basis with Senators from coal states.  Some of these overlap, such as Blanche Lincoln and Mark Pryor from Arkansas, Evan Bayh from Indiana, and others.

Feingold, however, shows the threat to the bill from what should presumably be a solid left wing.  No matter how much Feingold likes big government solutions, he understands that his constituents do not, especially when it means big hikes in energy costs and massive layoffs.  Feingold will not be alone in this, either.  Obama can expect opposition from Senators in Pennsylvania, Ohio, and West Virginia.  Robert Byrd already announced his opposition to it.  Even reconciliation won’t save cap-and-trade, because Obama will probably not get 51 votes for it, and certainly can’t possibly get 60.

No wonder Ann Althouse thinks Feingold looked grumpy during Obama’s speech this week.  He’s discovering that Obama’s more radical than he is, and he’s not liking it much.


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No wonder Ann Althouse thinks Feingold looked grumpy during Obama’s speech this week. He’s discovering that Obama’s more radical than he is, and he’s not liking it much.

Obama’s goal is to make Chavez and Castro look like lightweights.

anniekc on September 12, 2009 at 10:15 AM

At the same time, Feingold said he’s “troubled” by some of his constituents’ refusal to accept the principles of global warming,

…………

NOAA: Summer Temperature Below Average for U.S.

September 10, 2009

The average June-August 2009 summer temperature for the contiguous United States was below average – the 34th coolest on record, according to a preliminary analysis by NOAA’s National Climatic Data Center in Asheville, N.C. August was also below the long-term average. The analysis is based on records dating back to 1895.

artist on September 12, 2009 at 10:16 AM

Or this?

Key West Reader on September 12, 2009 at 10:17 AM

I’ve always liked Feingold. Don’t agree with him on much (if anything), but the guy is honest about where he stands. A rare attribute for a Democrat.

angryed on September 12, 2009 at 10:17 AM

Why would anyone not want to destroy our economy, place an unfair tax burden on citizens, and pretend that there is something called green jobs?

Blake on September 12, 2009 at 10:18 AM

Obama’s goal is to make Chavez and Castro look like lightweights.

anniekc on September 12, 2009 at 10:15 AM

That skinny Marxist has got a lot of fried Snickers to eat, then. He’s way behind those two tubs of pig fat.

TMK on September 12, 2009 at 10:20 AM

As a person I really like Feingold. I think he is always trying to do what he thinks is best for us here in Wisconsin. It is nice to know that he is putting jobs in our state before his ideals and party. That is what a Congressman is supposed to do. Good job.

sammypants on September 12, 2009 at 10:23 AM

As a person I really like Feingold. I think he is always trying to do what he thinks is best for us here in Wisconsin. It is nice to know that he is putting jobs in our state before his ideals and party. That is what a Congressman is supposed to do. Good job.

sammypants on September 12, 2009 at 10:23 AM

Blind squirrel….nut….

Esmerelda on September 12, 2009 at 10:26 AM

“I’m not signing onto any bill that rips off Wisconsin,” Feingold declared,

TRANSLATION: If I vote for this, I can kiss re-election goodbye.

GarandFan on September 12, 2009 at 10:27 AM

What does that say about the prospects of cap-and-trade, one of the most cherished liberal policies on the Barack Obama agenda, when it’s too radical for Russ Feingold?

“What, he really meant all that stuff he said over the years? Who knew?” Feingold, like so many others, bought in to the Rorschach test that was the 0bama campaign. They saw what they wanted to see in The Won, and ignored the warnings shouted by those who looked at his actual record and history. Time to wake up and face reality, Russ, I’m glad you’re finally coming around.

iurockhead on September 12, 2009 at 10:27 AM

The problem lefties like Feingold and Obama have is that their radical tax and spend policies might get a yawn during good economic times, but these ain’t good economic times. Americans are squeezing out every last dime they earn to get by, so any new tax, any policy that makes a household bill more expensive (let alone four times more expensive as cap and tax will), is going to be met with absolute outrage.

But these folks do not know how to govern without reaching into our back pockets and robbing us. That is what they do, pure and simple. Now we’re holding on to our wallets tighter and we simply cannot afford any more expenses, so the democrat agenda is kinda screwed.

They’re flailing around trying to figure out how they can rob us without us noticing it, but the new media is making that impossible, too. We cannot afford the democrat agenda, so we don’t want it. It will be economically ruinous, and it will destroy the democrat party for decades. Obama, Feingold, and their fellow travelers are just paralyzed as to how to lead in such an environment, which is why their fascist tendencies keep bubbling to the top. They can’t govern, so they’ll try to control.

Rational Thought on September 12, 2009 at 10:27 AM

Sorry, I don’t think Feingold gives a rats a.. about what’s best for Wisconsin. He cares what’s best for Feingold. Me thinks those town halls may have had a bit of an effect on him….

sandee on September 12, 2009 at 10:28 AM

Cap-and-trade would likely cause the secession of the red states from the union. That’s a cliff sane people want to back away from.

Rebar on September 12, 2009 at 10:29 AM

Sorry, I don’t think Feingold gives a rats a.. about what’s best for Wisconsin. He cares what’s best for Feingold. Me thinks those town halls may have had a bit of an effect on him….

sandee on September 12, 2009 at 10:28 AM

Agreed. +10

iurockhead on September 12, 2009 at 10:30 AM

NOTICE TO DEMOCRATS, (AND RINO’S):

*Crap and Trade

*Nationalized Heath Care

KILL BOTH BILLS OR JOIN THE RANKS OF THE UNEMPLOYED

Rovin on September 12, 2009 at 10:30 AM

What changed his mind? Probably some good, old-fashioned “tea partying”:

Perhaps the fact that Wisconsin was in the midst of a very cool summer during the recess and Feingold isn’t so stupid as to think he can vote for a jobs-killing bill whose purpose is to halt warming.

PackerBronco on September 12, 2009 at 10:32 AM

. He’s discovering that Obama’s more radical than he is, and he’s not liking it much.

All that liberal stuff makes for a great campaign but when Feingold suddenly discovers they are about to actually enact those campaign promises into law he suddenly gets cold feet?

Skandia Recluse on September 12, 2009 at 10:32 AM

Live-stream link to DC crowd.

Looks big and growing.

H/T Dr Dog at BJG.

http://www.trafficland.com/city/WAS/?rsid=weatherbug

artist on September 12, 2009 at 10:33 AM

That skinny Marxist has got a lot of fried Snickers to eat, then. He’s way behind those two tubs of pig fat.

TMK on September 12, 2009 at 10:20 AM

It’s important to have goals.

anniekc on September 12, 2009 at 10:34 AM

No, the energy companies have paid off the black mail tax…

Duke Energy in the midwest pulled out of an energy consortium that was lobbying to block the bill. Duke CEO’s reason? It wasn’t good policy in this dire time of “environmental” need.

Now the insurance companies just have to do the same and we’ll be allowed to keep those rights we have…

Skywise on September 12, 2009 at 10:35 AM

The left exhibits a sign of rationality?

Who would have thunk.

Now, if we can get him and McCain to unwind finance reform, true political discourse may be possible.

percysunshine on September 12, 2009 at 10:36 AM

Feingold is up for reelection in 2010. He will be happy to vote for cap and trade in 2011…

Realist on September 12, 2009 at 10:36 AM

artist on September 12, 2009 at 10:33 AM

Thank you, artist. Amazing crowd. How could the national media not cover this? (rhetorical, I know)

sherry on September 12, 2009 at 10:36 AM

At the same time, Feingold said he’s “troubled” by some of his constituents’ refusal to accept the principles of global warming

Does anyone else here find it gob-smackingly incredible that so many of our elected officials still buy into the Gorish lie of global warming?

disa on September 12, 2009 at 10:40 AM

Always fascinating how job insecurity always trumps true belief.

Skipper50 on September 12, 2009 at 10:41 AM

mikepfs RT michellemalkin RT @brightwing: Great livecam of the march on DC! http://tinyurl.com/dh8ezh #912 #tcot #sgp #teaparty

JiangxiDad on September 12, 2009 at 10:41 AM

artist on September 12, 2009 at 10:33 AM

Wow! Wish I was there today.

truetexan on September 12, 2009 at 10:42 AM

I’ve always liked Feingold. Don’t agree with him on much (if anything), but the guy is honest about where he stands. A rare attribute for a Democrat.

angryed on September 12, 2009 at 10:17 AM

Agreed. I’ve met the guy, and though I disagree with many of his views, he’s a very reasonable and honest person. People in the state get a sense that he’s like that. Yes, he is up for election soon, but as a good politician, he is not going to vote in a way that would be offensive to a large portion of his constituency. It’s too bad other Dems have had such a tin ear on the issue.

BryanS on September 12, 2009 at 10:43 AM

Well, with Feingold pulling off C and T, I guess there’s a chance, just a chance, we’ll get a No vote from McCain and the other worthless RINOs.

TXUS on September 12, 2009 at 10:44 AM

Feingold is up for reelection in 2010. He will be happy to vote for cap and trade in 2011…

Realist on September 12, 2009 at 10:36 AM

Does he have a strong republican challenger?

Rebar on September 12, 2009 at 10:44 AM

Robert Byrd already announced his opposition to it

not likely.

JiangxiDad on September 12, 2009 at 10:46 AM

Someone said MSNBC already reported over 100,000 and it’s still early.

artist on September 12, 2009 at 10:47 AM

Does he have a strong republican challenger?

Rebar on September 12, 2009 at 10:44 AM

No. Not yet. If the failed Presidential candidate–former governor Thompson–gets into the race, Feingold could see a serious challenge.

Paul Ryan would be great, but I think he sees himself in the leadership of the house one day.

BryanS on September 12, 2009 at 10:47 AM

I have a great deal of respect for Feingold. Liberal that he is, he has a great deal of integrity regarding his original campaign promises, and he has no illusions about his position as a public servant. He’s been all over Wisconsin this summer, attending every event he could where people wanted to talk to him, from both sides.

If he really does back off on cap-and-trade, it’s a sign he’s not buckling under Washington pressure. Good man.

MadisonConservative on September 12, 2009 at 10:51 AM

No. Not yet. If the failed Presidential candidate–former governor Thompson–gets into the race, Feingold could see a serious challenge.

Paul Ryan would be great, but I think he sees himself in the leadership of the house one day.

BryanS on September 12, 2009 at 10:47 AM

Ryan has stated often his intention to stay in the House because he believes he can accomplish more there.

I’m more concerned with unseating Kohl. That worthless old coot needs to go.

MadisonConservative on September 12, 2009 at 10:54 AM

Reality check – as I said when I found out about this, “Feingold merely wants to spread the pain of ‘dealing’ with a non-problem around, not remove the pain.” Let’s review the last two paragraphs of that article:

In addition to fixing the bill’s carbon allocations to put the Midwest on better economic footing with the rest of the country, Feingold was among 10 senators to recently raise the possibility of levying tariffs on other nations — including China — that may not practice comparable environmental responsibility.

”Why should we leave ourselves completely exposed while they just get to go forward?” Feingold asked.

If natural gas and oil were punished more severely, and if China and India were also asked to crush their economies, he would be the first one to sign it.

steveegg on September 12, 2009 at 10:57 AM

The smart Democrats will retreat to the side of sanity while their radical contemporaries proceed down the slide with their messiah, Obama.

rplat on September 12, 2009 at 10:57 AM

I’m more concerned with unseating Kohl. That worthless old coot needs to go.

MadisonConservative on September 12, 2009 at 10:54 AM

Bold prediction – If you don’t see the Bucks make a serious run at the NBA playoffs in the 2011-2012 season, or if they are sold, Kohl will not run again.

steveegg on September 12, 2009 at 10:58 AM

The strong propensity Democrats have for screw you legislation…is toast.

Obama has to be wondering, where’s the love?

Speakup on September 12, 2009 at 11:02 AM

Oh, and before everybody starts nominating Feingold for sainthood, ask some Wisconsin political insiders about the 1998 election.

steveegg on September 12, 2009 at 11:02 AM

I’m more concerned with unseating Kohl. That worthless old coot needs to go.

MadisonConservative on September 12, 2009 at 10:54 AM

Most definitely agreed with that!

BryanS on September 12, 2009 at 11:03 AM

Bold prediction – If you don’t see the Bucks make a serious run at the NBA playoffs in the 2011-2012 season, or if they are sold, Kohl will not run again.

steveegg on September 12, 2009 at 10:58 AM

Considering the dude has no personal relationships, and calls that team his “baby”(who the hell replaces family with a purchased sports team), it wouldn’t surprise me. He’s a shallow chump, with NO penned legislation of any note.

MadisonConservative on September 12, 2009 at 11:03 AM

At the same time, Feingold said he’s “troubled” by some of his constituents’ refusal to accept the principles of global warming,

Yeah, and some of us are troubled with Feingold’s refusal to look at the evidence.

drjohn on September 12, 2009 at 11:04 AM

Oh, and before everybody starts nominating Feingold for sainthood, ask some Wisconsin political insiders about the 1998 election.

steveegg on September 12, 2009 at 11:02 AM

Such as? Any links?

MadisonConservative on September 12, 2009 at 11:04 AM

steveegg on September 12, 2009 at 10:57 AM

Feingold is a liberal afterall. It’s good that he’s not a reckless one–the damn the torpedos, full steam ahead type.

BryanS on September 12, 2009 at 11:05 AM

OT:
Go over to the Boss’s site and look at the traffic cam in DC. Wow!

d1carter on September 12, 2009 at 11:05 AM

He’s discovering that Obama’s more radical than he is, and he’s not liking it much.

Let’s have a contest.

whitetop on September 12, 2009 at 11:06 AM

Oh, and before everybody starts nominating Feingold for sainthood, ask some Wisconsin political insiders about the 1998 election.

steveegg on September 12, 2009 at 11:02 AM

You mean the race with “Alfred E.” Neumann? Sorry, but that guy was a nob and deserved to lose. We could field a better candidate than him.

BryanS on September 12, 2009 at 11:08 AM

Such as? Any links?

MadisonConservative on September 12, 2009 at 11:04 AM

I remember a ton of money from third-party groups flooding the media markets non-stop from September right up until the election, most on Feingold’s behalf, even as Feingold championed their banishment via McCain-Feingold. One particularily-nasty anti-Mark Neumann ad early on continued to run for several days after Feingold “pleaded” for it to stop.

I also recall Feingold illegally delaying his last pre-election finance report until enough instate money came into the campaign to bring the out-of-state money down to a previously-mutually-agreed-upon percentage.

steveegg on September 12, 2009 at 11:11 AM

The economy is in shambles thanks to the bass-ackwards CIC and his imbecilic, power-grabbing party.

Just what we need is more debt, HIGHER taxes, harrassing regulations, and the hamstringing of our energy sector.

We need JOBS, and Barry the Childish and his moronic sycophants concentrate on Health Care Reform.

Delusional.

profitsbeard on September 12, 2009 at 11:11 AM

At the same time, Feingold said he’s “troubled” by some of his constituents’ refusal to accept the principles of global warming,

Yeah, and some of us are troubled with Feingold’s refusal to look at the evidence.

drjohn on September 12, 2009 at 11:04 AM

One of the items of evidence Feingold refuses to look at is the record cold month of July 2009 in Madison.

steveegg on September 12, 2009 at 11:13 AM

I wonder if more politicians are not backing down because they see that Obama is going to be a one term president. Or, they are at least seriously hedging their bets.

Blake on September 12, 2009 at 11:14 AM

I remember a ton of money from third-party groups flooding the media markets non-stop from September right up until the election, most on Feingold’s behalf, even as Feingold championed their banishment via McCain-Feingold. One particularily-nasty anti-Mark Neumann ad early on continued to run for several days after Feingold “pleaded” for it to stop.

I also recall Feingold illegally delaying his last pre-election finance report until enough instate money came into the campaign to bring the out-of-state money down to a previously-mutually-agreed-upon percentage.

steveegg on September 12, 2009 at 11:11 AM

The first point I would take issue with. The left really doesn’t give a damn what their candidate thinks about their tactics as long as they win. Might be willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, there.

As to the second point, that is worrying. Was there no investigation or charge brought against him if indeed his campaign did illegally delay it?

MadisonConservative on September 12, 2009 at 11:15 AM

artist on September 12, 2009 at 10:33 AM

BEAUTIFUL! Just beautiful!

ExpressoBold on September 12, 2009 at 11:17 AM

You mean the race with “Alfred E.” Neumann? Sorry, but that guy was a nob and deserved to lose. We could field a better candidate than him.

BryanS on September 12, 2009 at 11:08 AM

Name a good candidate for any major Wisconsin political office from the last 15 years. Thompson was as conservative as McCain. McCallum wasn’t much better. Neumann was a nice guy but also a pushover. Michels had good military creds, but his competition was a car dealer.

I think they usually lost because they were afraid to push conservative ideals, and went for the center. Get a real conservative in there and you will awaken the sleeping dragon.

MadisonConservative on September 12, 2009 at 11:19 AM

finally coming to reality…if cap n tax is implemented then the dairy industry would take a double whammie…..cow breathe (methane)as well as stack pollution….lot of buckaroos in that stack.

hawkman on September 12, 2009 at 11:20 AM

As to the second point, that is worrying. Was there no investigation or charge brought against him if indeed his campaign did illegally delay it?

MadisonConservative on September 12, 2009 at 11:15 AM

Which party ran the FEC in the 1998-1999 time frame? Even if that report had been a month late rather than the 3 days it was, there would have been nothing done about it.

Moreover, had they decided to do something about it, Feingold might have found his conscience and voted to convict Bill Clinton on at least one of the two impeachment charges the Senate took up at the beginning of 1999.

steveegg on September 12, 2009 at 11:20 AM

Which party ran the FEC in the 1998-1999 time frame? Even if that report had been a month late rather than the 3 days it was, there would have been nothing done about it.

Good point.

Moreover, had they decided to do something about it, Feingold might have found his conscience and voted to convict Bill Clinton on at least one of the two impeachment charges the Senate took up at the beginning of 1999.

steveegg on September 12, 2009 at 11:20 AM

Doubtful. You had all of the RINO du jours voting with the president. Russ has a reputation for standing alone on a number of issues, but he would have been outcast if he tried to help take down Slick Willie. Would have made Joe Wilson’s outburst look like small potatoes.

MadisonConservative on September 12, 2009 at 11:25 AM

Having been born and raised here in Wisconsin the biggest embarrassment for me has been McCain-Feingold. I’m sure Russ is getting his ear bent by hard working Wisconsinites.
Hello Democrats….Hello…THERE IS NO MORE MONEY!

psychocyber on September 12, 2009 at 11:26 AM

Name a good candidate for any major Wisconsin political office from the last 15 years. Thompson was as conservative as McCain. McCallum wasn’t much better. Neumann was a nice guy but also a pushover. Michels had good military creds, but his competition was a car dealer.

I think they usually lost because they were afraid to push conservative ideals, and went for the center. Get a real conservative in there and you will awaken the sleeping dragon.

MadisonConservative on September 12, 2009 at 11:19 AM

All true. Too bad, though. We’ve got a Governor and a Senate candidate to come up with. We can only hope the Dems would be stupid enough to nominate Barbara Lawton for their candidate for governor :)

BryanS on September 12, 2009 at 11:27 AM

Name a good candidate for any major Wisconsin political office from the last 15 years. Thompson was as conservative as McCain. McCallum wasn’t much better. Neumann was a nice guy but also a pushover. Michels had good military creds, but his competition was a car dealer.

I think they usually lost because they were afraid to push conservative ideals, and went for the center. Get a real conservative in there and you will awaken the sleeping dragon.

MadisonConservative on September 12, 2009 at 11:19 AM

They lost because the leadership of the RPW at that time (heavily influenced by Thompson) rejected both fiscal and social conservatism:

- While Neumann didn’t have a primary challenger, Thompson made every effort to distance himself and the state party from Neumann.
- Scott McCallum pretty much dug his own political grave by advocating getting rid of shared revenue (something Thompson turned into a huge deal by having the state cover 2/3rds of school costs). In fact, Tommy’s brother Ed got recruited by the gang to run as a “Libertarian” to drive the final nail in McCallum’s political coffin.
- Tim Michels made the mistake of challenging the anointed one, Russ Darrow (another moderate on fiscal and social issues). When Michels won, the RPW (as they did in 1998) abandoned the Senate race, and the NRSC (pointedly unlike 1998) followed their lead.

Since then (actually, after the 2006 elections), the leadership of the RPW has been replaced by those rather tolerant of broad-based conservatives. Of course, there is still the anointed syndrome.

steveegg on September 12, 2009 at 11:37 AM

U.S. Sen. Russ Feingold is returning to Washington after what he called a “lively” round of county listening sessions during his August recess.

Nice. Sounds like he’s responding to what he hears, too. That’s what representation should be all about.

Meantime, I’ve got Sen. Specter (who can barely hear) and Rep. Patrick Murphy (who selectively exposes his ears to his consituents).

misslizzi on September 12, 2009 at 11:43 AM

At the same time, Feingold said he’s “troubled” by some of his constituents’ refusal to accept the principles of global warming

I don’t remember seeing the word “principles” in the same sentence as “global warming” before. Maybe because it looks so silly.

Jim Treacher on September 12, 2009 at 11:56 AM

Doubtful. You had all of the RINO du jours voting with the president. Russ has a reputation for standing alone on a number of issues, but he would have been outcast if he tried to help take down Slick Willie. Would have made Joe Wilson’s outburst look like small potatoes.

MadisonConservative on September 12, 2009 at 11:25 AM

Do not underestimate the willingness of Wisconsin Dems to go after “fellow” Dems for both raw power and revenge. For the not-in-Wisconsin folks I’ll point you to the Dem-on-Dem part of the Legislative Caucus “scandals”:

- In the middle of a Madison Dem takeover of the Democratic Party of Wisconsin, Democratic Dane County DA Brian Blanchard, who had legal jurisdiction over the Legislature, was shocked, SHOCKED to find that all four of the caucuses (the Assembly Democrat and Republican caucuses, and the Senate Democrat and Republican caucuses) were using state caucus employees for campaign work. Never mind that they had been doing so for decades.

- Because Blanchard had a close working relationship with Senate Democratic leader Chuck Chvala (also from Madison, and the engineer behind the takeover), he sent the Senate Dem case to fellow Dem Milwaukee County DA E. Michael McCann, who had a long history of cutting “stay out of jail free” deals.

- McCann had his own conflict of interest with Milwaukee Dem Brian Burke, who was on the all-powerful Joint Finance Committe and gearing up for a run for Attorney General, so his case went back to Blanchard.

- Blanchard, who dropped the investigation into the Assembly Democrats after they agreed to replace the leadership with Madison-area Dems, issued a lengthy indictment against Burke, which caused Burke to abandon his AG run and depart the Senate. Of note, that was the first indictment to come out of the “scandal” investigation.

- In response, McCann filed a lengthier indictment against Chvala, which led to his retirement.

Both Burke and Chvala, after they retired from public elected office, did eventually cut deals that wiped out almost all the charges.

steveegg on September 12, 2009 at 11:59 AM

He’s discovering that Obama’s more radical than he is, and he’s not liking it much.

Given Obama’s nearly complete lack of background in elected office, it’s as though we elected a President out of academia or out of space…but I repeat myself.

The only group that he is beholden to is the Chicago political/financial street gang that pulls his strings. So he can talk about public policy with absolutely no idea of the consequences and no care, really, just like a professor. Even a flaming moonbat like Feingold eventually has to answer to his constituents.

Jaibones on September 12, 2009 at 12:06 PM

I don’t remember seeing the word “principles” in the same sentence as “global warming” before. Maybe because it looks so silly.

Jim Treacher on September 12, 2009 at 11:56 AM

Heh. Now that you have said it, it really, really look silly.

Jaibones on September 12, 2009 at 12:10 PM

Look, I live there. Wisconsin power is probably 80%, or more, coal-drived. But, this is a state that by two-thirds majority voted -in ’96, ibelieve- to amend the state constitution to include a provision for the right to keep and bear arms. And still, these clowns -I’m looking at you, cheeseheads- continually re-elect Herb Khol to the Senate, a closeted homosexual who lives in Wyoming when not in D.C. or campaigning (that’s about three months every six years) and who has never missed an opportunity to vote for an ant-gun measure.
So I don’t know what the hell Russ is afraid of.

Doorgunner on September 12, 2009 at 12:16 PM

I don’t remember seeing the word “principles” in the same sentence as “global warming” before. Maybe because it looks so silly.

Jim Treacher on September 12, 2009 at 11:56 AM

We have a thread winner.

BTW, sorry about the Inside Wisconsin Politics thread hijack.

steveegg on September 12, 2009 at 12:16 PM

Doorgunner on September 12, 2009 at 12:16 PM

Four phrases on why Nobody’s Senator keeps on getting re-elected:

- Kohl’s Department Stores (which, like the now-defunct Kohl’s Food Stores, Herb had almost nothing to do with except getting a lot of the cash from the sale of both)
- Milwaukee Bucks, specifically their 1-year-in-6 NBA playoff march timed with the re-election cycle
- UW-Madison’s Kohl Center (which, ironically, proves that Kohl is craven in demanding almost-total public financing for a new Bucks’ arena)
- The cheapest milk at the Wisconsin State Fair

steveegg on September 12, 2009 at 12:21 PM

steveegg on September 12, 2009 at 12:21 PM

Oh, I know- but it doesn’t help keep the vomit down.

Doorgunner on September 12, 2009 at 12:23 PM

steveegg on September 12, 2009 at 12:21 PM

Somewhere, I still have his letter politely telling me to ‘shove it’ when I asked him to not vote against
Ashcroft.

Doorgunner on September 12, 2009 at 12:25 PM

And McCain supported this boodogle.

Unbelievable.

aquaviva on September 12, 2009 at 12:38 PM

This piece of $hit legislation must die. I was in a financial meeting at my company yesterday discussing the downturn in our business, (which is tied to hydrocarbon processing) and one of our marketing guys told us what was going to happen to our customers (and us) if cap and trade passed.

We have already seen about a 20% reduction in refiners in the US this year, due to market forces and the low costs of refined products. Cap and trade will cause a shutdown of about another 70% of refining in the US, all of our refined products will end up being imported from countries that are not burdened by the cap and trade regulations. ie. Mexico, Venezuela, China, Russia to name a few.

His take was that what we really need is a super record breaking cold winter this year. (I know some of you don’t want to hear that) That will drive up the cost of refined products and make people get as excited about defeating cap and trade as they have been about ObamaCare.

Personally, waiting for that first freeze!

conservnut on September 12, 2009 at 12:45 PM

Reality check part 2 – Despite the same tea party pressure on health care, Feingold remains a leading voice for the public “option”.

steveegg on September 12, 2009 at 12:54 PM

Since the death of Paul Wellstone, no US Senator has as reliable a liberal voting record as Russ Feingold (D-WI) … except Obama (D-IL).

There, fixed it.

clark smith on September 12, 2009 at 1:06 PM

Feingold is a steaming pile of excerement, as is his partner in crime Herbie “I’ll do nothing in Washington but take up a seat since you sent me here” Kohl. Not to sound anti-Semitic but there’s like 8 people who are Jews in Wisconsin and two of them are U.S. Senators.

Jeff from WI on September 12, 2009 at 1:49 PM

Cap-and-trade would likely cause the secession of the red states from the union. That’s a cliff sane people want to back away from.

Rebar on September 12, 2009 at 10:29 AM

Lemmings. Cliff.

trapeze on September 12, 2009 at 2:41 PM

According to wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coal_in_the_United_States

Twenty-seven states produce coal. The major coal-producing states are (in descending order as of 2000, with annual production in thousands of short tons):

Wyoming (338,900).
West Virginia (158,257)
Kentucky (130,688)
Pennsylvania (74,619)
Texas (49,498)
Montana (38,352)
Illinois (33,444)
Virginia (32,834)
North Dakota (31,270)
Colorado (29,137)
Indiana (27,965)
New Mexico (27,323)
Utah (26,656)
Ohio (22,269)
Alabama (19,324)
Arizona (13,111)

Total United States: 1,437,174

Let me see, 27 states with two Senators each = ???

Yea, let’s see how cap and trade really does in a up and down vote.

patch on September 12, 2009 at 7:12 PM

She’s dead Jim, killed by sol.

tarpon on September 12, 2009 at 7:31 PM

If and when he gets around to denouncing campaign finance reform, wake me. That would be worth paying attention to.

If he brings Juan McLame along on C&T, at least he’d be doing something productive.

darwin-t on September 12, 2009 at 10:04 PM

As a person I really like Feingold. I think he is always trying to do what he thinks is best for us here in Wisconsin. It is nice to know that he is putting jobs in our state before his ideals and party. That is what a Congressman is supposed to do. Good job.

sammypants on September 12, 2009 at 10:23 AM

Feingold can just read the tea leaves. In the past two elections, he never won re-election by any wide margin. Given the current climate, I think he may be strongly looking at how hard he will have to run just to save his seat.

He is every bit of a weasel as other Democrats, and just as liberal as others. He’s just much better at APPEARING centrist.

91Veteran on September 12, 2009 at 10:45 PM

Considering the dude has no personal relationships, and calls that team his “baby”(who the hell replaces family with a purchased sports team), it wouldn’t surprise me. He’s a shallow chump, with NO penned legislation of any note.

MadisonConservative on September 12, 2009 at 11:03 AM

Kohl is another weasel who manages to get away with being rather liberal, because no media here in Wisconsin reports on what he does in Washington…or they report very little.

He has been a stealth Senator since his first election purchase of his seat.

I thought he was toast years ago when just after the Lewinsky affair, I saw him on TV at some event sitting beside Clinton…patting Clinton’s leg as if they were old buds.

…but then if the local media refuse to hold him (or Feingold) accountable, who here in Wisconsin would know of their actions?

All they do is take a couple actions, or make a couple statements to suggest they are just like fellow Wisconsinites, then go back to being sneaky libs.

91Veteran on September 12, 2009 at 11:07 PM

Having been born and raised here in Wisconsin the biggest embarrassment for me has been McCain-Feingold. I’m sure Russ is getting his ear bent by hard working Wisconsinites.
Hello Democrats….Hello…THERE IS NO MORE MONEY!

psychocyber on September 12, 2009 at 11:26 AM

I’m hoping several bent his ear on that stupid piece of legislation, and how it does nothing to stop the kind of coordination with groups like SEIU, UAW, ACORN, and many, many others with the Democrats.

Those groups actions since ObamAcorn was elected shows how asinine and useless that legislation was.

91Veteran on September 12, 2009 at 11:15 PM

Obama’s goal is to make Chavez and Castro look like lightweights.

anniekc on September 12, 2009 at 10:15 AM

Obama-nation wishes to be the brown Mao Say Dung.

darktood on September 13, 2009 at 7:22 AM