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		<title>By: Hyscience</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/12/can-obama-do-math/comment-page-2/#comment-2738356</link>
		<dc:creator>Hyscience</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 20:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;AP SPIN METER: $2 trillion in health savings? Where?...&lt;/strong&gt;

Remember when leaders of the insurance, hospital and other medical industries stood with President Barack Obama at the White House and promised steps to save $2 trillion over the next decade? Well, perhaps it&#039;s best to just put it down as spin, and le...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>AP SPIN METER: $2 trillion in health savings? Where?&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Remember when leaders of the insurance, hospital and other medical industries stood with President Barack Obama at the White House and promised steps to save $2 trillion over the next decade? Well, perhaps it&#8217;s best to just put it down as spin, and le&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Wind Power: Not So Powerful &#124; America Watches Obama</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/12/can-obama-do-math/comment-page-2/#comment-2708205</link>
		<dc:creator>Wind Power: Not So Powerful &#124; America Watches Obama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 06:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] don&#8217;t add up, you just tax or borrow more money. No one has ever said that Barack Obama is a numbers guy; in fact, his ignorance of mathematics is just one facet of his ignorance of business and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] don&#8217;t add up, you just tax or borrow more money. No one has ever said that Barack Obama is a numbers guy; in fact, his ignorance of mathematics is just one facet of his ignorance of business and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Covered &#8211; Monday, September 14 &#124; Dr. Wibb's Discrete Math Page</title>
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		<dc:creator>Covered &#8211; Monday, September 14 &#124; Dr. Wibb's Discrete Math Page</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 05:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Discuss example of Can Obama Do Math [...]</description>
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		<title>By: 4thQTR</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/12/can-obama-do-math/comment-page-2/#comment-2701277</link>
		<dc:creator>4thQTR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 21:35:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well let me correct my previous post.

I made a mistake in my spreadsheet. And I agree with the 30 year number at the difference between 7.1% and 7.2 %.

That does add up to 4 trillion.

Sorry for the confusion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well let me correct my previous post.</p>
<p>I made a mistake in my spreadsheet. And I agree with the 30 year number at the difference between 7.1% and 7.2 %.</p>
<p>That does add up to 4 trillion.</p>
<p>Sorry for the confusion.</p>
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		<title>By: 4thQTR</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/12/can-obama-do-math/comment-page-2/#comment-2701250</link>
		<dc:creator>4thQTR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 21:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this is a really important point that isn&#039;t getting much visibility.

Obama emphasized that by cutting one tenth of one percent we save 4 trillion dollars.  

I sure can&#039;t figure it out.

Help me understand.  It was said above that:

&quot;If the healthcare industry were to grow at 7.2% indefinitely versus 7.1% indefinitely, it would take about 30 years to realize an accumulated $4 trillion difference.&quot;

I did the math and assumed we started with 2402 billion healthcare costs in 2008.

If we go 40 years at 7.1 % versus 7.2% growth, I get a cumulative savings of 437 billion.  That is still ten times less than what Obama was talking about.  So where am I wrong?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is a really important point that isn&#8217;t getting much visibility.</p>
<p>Obama emphasized that by cutting one tenth of one percent we save 4 trillion dollars.  </p>
<p>I sure can&#8217;t figure it out.</p>
<p>Help me understand.  It was said above that:</p>
<p>&#8220;If the healthcare industry were to grow at 7.2% indefinitely versus 7.1% indefinitely, it would take about 30 years to realize an accumulated $4 trillion difference.&#8221;</p>
<p>I did the math and assumed we started with 2402 billion healthcare costs in 2008.</p>
<p>If we go 40 years at 7.1 % versus 7.2% growth, I get a cumulative savings of 437 billion.  That is still ten times less than what Obama was talking about.  So where am I wrong?</p>
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		<title>By: Can Obama do math? &#171; Prayer, News &#38; Action</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/12/can-obama-do-math/comment-page-2/#comment-2701097</link>
		<dc:creator>Can Obama do math? &#171; Prayer, News &#38; Action</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 19:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I’m not asking this to be snarky, or at least not entirely. Barack Obama twice this week made an argument that he can squeeze $4 trillion in deficit reduction “over the long term” from an industry that generates a total of $2.3 trillion a year — by slowing the rate of cost inflation through his overhaul prescription. Put aside for the moment whether ObamaCare will slow the rate of growth at all, and how Obama plans to make that happen without rationing. How can he claim to get $4 trillion out of a $2.3 trillion stone, especially since the government’s portion in that is only somewhere between a third and a half? [...] Read the rest » [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I’m not asking this to be snarky, or at least not entirely. Barack Obama twice this week made an argument that he can squeeze $4 trillion in deficit reduction “over the long term” from an industry that generates a total of $2.3 trillion a year — by slowing the rate of cost inflation through his overhaul prescription. Put aside for the moment whether ObamaCare will slow the rate of growth at all, and how Obama plans to make that happen without rationing. How can he claim to get $4 trillion out of a $2.3 trillion stone, especially since the government’s portion in that is only somewhere between a third and a half? [...] Read the rest » [...]</p>
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		<title>By: mmcnamer1</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 16:14:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course he can&#039;t add or tell the truth for that matter.
&quot;You Lie, Mr. President&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course he can&#8217;t add or tell the truth for that matter.<br />
&#8220;You Lie, Mr. President&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Sunday Morning New Roundup</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/12/can-obama-do-math/comment-page-2/#comment-2700380</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunday Morning New Roundup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 15:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8220;Can Obama Do Math?&#8221; &#8211; Ed Morrissey (Hot Air) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Cybergeezer</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/12/can-obama-do-math/comment-page-2/#comment-2700098</link>
		<dc:creator>Cybergeezer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 13:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama will be worse than Bernie Madoff!</description>
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		<title>By: Cybergeezer</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/12/can-obama-do-math/comment-page-2/#comment-2700092</link>
		<dc:creator>Cybergeezer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 13:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Math is racial profiling!&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Ampleforth</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/12/can-obama-do-math/comment-page-2/#comment-2700021</link>
		<dc:creator>Ampleforth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 12:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Obama was just using fancy Harvard Math - the type us peasants can’t possibly understand.

mjk on September 12, 2009 at 1:35 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

mjk, you have a small error in your list. You need to replace one of the seven with Kenya.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Obama was just using fancy Harvard Math &#8211; the type us peasants can’t possibly understand.</p>
<p>mjk on September 12, 2009 at 1:35 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>mjk, you have a small error in your list. You need to replace one of the seven with Kenya.</p>
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		<title>By: darktood</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/12/can-obama-do-math/comment-page-2/#comment-2699958</link>
		<dc:creator>darktood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 11:33:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whether Obama-nation can do math is immaterial his followers can not, and he lies contently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whether Obama-nation can do math is immaterial his followers can not, and he lies contently.</p>
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		<title>By: IlikedAUH2O</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/12/can-obama-do-math/comment-page-2/#comment-2699288</link>
		<dc:creator>IlikedAUH2O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 02:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P. S. &lt;strong&gt;chris999 on September 12, 2009 at 2:55 PM&lt;/strong&gt;

They &lt;em&gt;really&lt;/em&gt; hated you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P. S. <strong>chris999 on September 12, 2009 at 2:55 PM</strong></p>
<p>They <em>really</em> hated you.</p>
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		<title>By: DKH</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/12/can-obama-do-math/comment-page-2/#comment-2699283</link>
		<dc:creator>DKH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 02:35:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would really like to see the math behind the claim.  Is it just a matter of carrying it out to a long enough term that you can get any number you want?

As far as ignoring compounding, I&#039;m not sure how 33 billion compounds to 220 billion in 10 years, although the cash flow would increase each year as the calculation is carried farther.  However, all that said, it doesn&#039;t appear that there&#039;s any discounting of the cash flow in the calculation above, either.

But the real point is, I want to see Obama&#039;s math.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would really like to see the math behind the claim.  Is it just a matter of carrying it out to a long enough term that you can get any number you want?</p>
<p>As far as ignoring compounding, I&#8217;m not sure how 33 billion compounds to 220 billion in 10 years, although the cash flow would increase each year as the calculation is carried farther.  However, all that said, it doesn&#8217;t appear that there&#8217;s any discounting of the cash flow in the calculation above, either.</p>
<p>But the real point is, I want to see Obama&#8217;s math.</p>
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		<title>By: IlikedAUH2O</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/12/can-obama-do-math/comment-page-2/#comment-2699276</link>
		<dc:creator>IlikedAUH2O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 02:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Other factors?&lt;/strong&gt;

I went over the above with three libs who visited today (ok, I actually caught them at a neighbor&#039;s house and used his computer - true libs don&#039;t generally visit me) and they understood him completely. They said that there were parts that he didn&#039;t introduce since it would confuse us. See? In time, all will be revealed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Other factors?</strong></p>
<p>I went over the above with three libs who visited today (ok, I actually caught them at a neighbor&#8217;s house and used his computer &#8211; true libs don&#8217;t generally visit me) and they understood him completely. They said that there were parts that he didn&#8217;t introduce since it would confuse us. See? In time, all will be revealed.</p>
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		<title>By: unclesmrgol</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/12/can-obama-do-math/comment-page-2/#comment-2699047</link>
		<dc:creator>unclesmrgol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 02:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>save money, that is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>save money, that is.</p>
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		<title>By: unclesmrgol</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/12/can-obama-do-math/comment-page-2/#comment-2699045</link>
		<dc:creator>unclesmrgol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 01:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m wondering why it stops at $4 trillion?  If he thinks America is going to same money, do the saving suddenly stop at some point in the &quot;long term&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m wondering why it stops at $4 trillion?  If he thinks America is going to same money, do the saving suddenly stop at some point in the &#8220;long term&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Griz</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/12/can-obama-do-math/comment-page-2/#comment-2698619</link>
		<dc:creator>Griz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 00:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The maggot-in-chief lies like a dog begging for dinner. He has no problem lying. He actually enjoys lying. Lying makes the maggot-in-chief feel like a real man! Lying makes him feel superior. Lying is all he&#039;s got. Lying is all he&#039;s ever had to offer... the country we love. Lying is his strategy. His agenda. His administration&#039;s only purpose is to sell you a bag of goods. All lies. All the time. The Chicago way. It&#039;s going to be a miracle from God if this loser and his gang of communists leave anything America can work with to resurrect a country worth living in. A miracle from God it will take.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The maggot-in-chief lies like a dog begging for dinner. He has no problem lying. He actually enjoys lying. Lying makes the maggot-in-chief feel like a real man! Lying makes him feel superior. Lying is all he&#8217;s got. Lying is all he&#8217;s ever had to offer&#8230; the country we love. Lying is his strategy. His agenda. His administration&#8217;s only purpose is to sell you a bag of goods. All lies. All the time. The Chicago way. It&#8217;s going to be a miracle from God if this loser and his gang of communists leave anything America can work with to resurrect a country worth living in. A miracle from God it will take.</p>
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		<title>By: MidWestFarmer</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/12/can-obama-do-math/comment-page-2/#comment-2698532</link>
		<dc:creator>MidWestFarmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 23:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama math reminds me of South Part episode 217 where gnomes are stealing underpants.  Their plan is
Step 1: Steal underpants
Step 3: Huge profits

Wait- whats step 2?  Uhh we don&#039;t know but step 3 is huge profits!!

LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama math reminds me of South Part episode 217 where gnomes are stealing underpants.  Their plan is<br />
Step 1: Steal underpants<br />
Step 3: Huge profits</p>
<p>Wait- whats step 2?  Uhh we don&#8217;t know but step 3 is huge profits!!</p>
<p>LOL</p>
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		<title>By: MeAlice</title>
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		<dc:creator>MeAlice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 23:14:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately they don&#039;t teach math at Ivy League schools.</description>
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		<title>By: Spiritk9</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/12/can-obama-do-math/comment-page-2/#comment-2698075</link>
		<dc:creator>Spiritk9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 21:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zero can do math, he just thinks we&#039;re all stupid where stupidity generally hangs out on the fringes of each side of the political scale and ignorance sprinkles the in between.

He&#039;s also the biggest liar we&#039;ve ever had in office I think, and that says a LOT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zero can do math, he just thinks we&#8217;re all stupid where stupidity generally hangs out on the fringes of each side of the political scale and ignorance sprinkles the in between.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s also the biggest liar we&#8217;ve ever had in office I think, and that says a LOT.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry Schell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry Schell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 21:24:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t know much about history.
Don&#039;t know much geography.
Thought math was a bore for the nerdy kids.
All I need is oratory.

May not be quite so easy, Hussein.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t know much about history.<br />
Don&#8217;t know much geography.<br />
Thought math was a bore for the nerdy kids.<br />
All I need is oratory.</p>
<p>May not be quite so easy, Hussein.</p>
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		<title>By: marklmail</title>
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		<dc:creator>marklmail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 19:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Liar in Chief strikes again. With sabotaging friends like Obama, who needs enemies?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liar in Chief strikes again. With sabotaging friends like Obama, who needs enemies?</p>
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		<title>By: Marco</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 19:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It still hasn&#039;t sunk in yet that Obama and his Communists don&#039;t want to tell the truth or solve any problems that we are faced with in America. This is reparations and Racism Straight Up! He wants to redistribute America&#039;s wealth just like he told Joe The Plumber he would. He is trying to take over the government and all profitable institutions with his lying words.  This is much easier for him than an actual military coup. I think Obama has been used to lying through his teeth to the ghetto idiots he &quot;organized&quot; in his previous career. It is a different story trying to deceive literate working Americans. They use real math in their budgets and will not sign on to the lies of this Communist, Kenyan, Muslim, Narcissist, Lying , Treasonous, Traitor! Dealing with the truth about Obama is the beginning of the end for him! He makes perfect sense if one stops trying to see honorable motives to anything he does. Skipping the 9/11 ceremonies in NY sums up all one needs to know about this evil man!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It still hasn&#8217;t sunk in yet that Obama and his Communists don&#8217;t want to tell the truth or solve any problems that we are faced with in America. This is reparations and Racism Straight Up! He wants to redistribute America&#8217;s wealth just like he told Joe The Plumber he would. He is trying to take over the government and all profitable institutions with his lying words.  This is much easier for him than an actual military coup. I think Obama has been used to lying through his teeth to the ghetto idiots he &#8220;organized&#8221; in his previous career. It is a different story trying to deceive literate working Americans. They use real math in their budgets and will not sign on to the lies of this Communist, Kenyan, Muslim, Narcissist, Lying , Treasonous, Traitor! Dealing with the truth about Obama is the beginning of the end for him! He makes perfect sense if one stops trying to see honorable motives to anything he does. Skipping the 9/11 ceremonies in NY sums up all one needs to know about this evil man!</p>
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		<title>By: Black Yoshi</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/12/can-obama-do-math/comment-page-2/#comment-2697428</link>
		<dc:creator>Black Yoshi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 19:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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10,000 pennies guy explains why Obama can’t balance the budget - the hungry baby gorilla will beat us to death LOL!

Dr Evil on September 12, 2009 at 1:54 PM
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That is one of the best videos I&#039;ve ever seen in my life.  Applying common sense is such a novel proposition these days.</description>
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<p>10,000 pennies guy explains why Obama can’t balance the budget &#8211; the hungry baby gorilla will beat us to death LOL!</p>
<p>Dr Evil on September 12, 2009 at 1:54 PM
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<p>That is one of the best videos I&#8217;ve ever seen in my life.  Applying common sense is such a novel proposition these days.</p>
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