Rudy: 9/11 “part of our present,” not our past

posted at 12:15 pm on September 11, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

Fox News in New York City talks to the man who stood tall on 9/11 in the Big Apple, Rudy Giuliani, who shares his memories and talks about the lessons of the awful day eight years ago. Giuliani warned that a lot of people have forgotten the lessons of the terrorist attacks that killed almost 3,000 people — not the military and first responders, but ordinary people and more than a few politicians. He hits the nail on the head when he tells Fox that 9/11 is not part of our history, but very much part of the present, and that a failure to understand that could result in another terrorist attack:

Regardless of how one sees Giuliani from a policy perspective, and there’s plenty of room for disagreement with him there, he represents the kind of gut-check leadership most people crave from their politicians. Rudy became America’s Mayor in the aftermath of the attacks because he acted; he got to the ground and took command. He gave us our first sense that things were not going to be all right — no one could possibly have thought that — but that someone had arrived to put a stop to things getting much, much worse.

Regardless of party or policy, America needed that sense of command, of response, and of fight on September 11, 2001. No matter what else Rudy Giuliani may do in his career, I will always say a prayer of thanks that he was there when we needed him. Like the commentators on Fox, I’m pretty sure that voters will look for that kind of catastrophe-tested leadership at some level in the future.

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Cheerleader claims an ‘imminent threat’ of WMDs. Cheerleader invades wrong country. Bad guys that carried out 9-11 get away. $1 Trillion squandered. Here we are 8 years later. The end.

simplesimon on September 11, 2009 at 12:53 PM

Khalid Sheik Mohammed is in Gitmo and gave up the secrets of Al Qaeda so that we have not been attacked again. But your guys think he should have been given tea and crumpets and the guys who broke him sent to jail.

rockmom on September 11, 2009 at 12:55 PM

I would be more inclined to believe a man who smokes crack cocaine with a gigolo in a limo and marries Mandingo Michelle is gay. But that’s just me. ;)

alliebobbitt on September 11, 2009 at 12:54 PM

Mandingo?? Easy there, race fan! Save it for your big teabagger party tomorrow. Be sure to wear a flag shirt – you’ll stick out!

simplesimon on September 11, 2009 at 12:56 PM

Well, I think everyone here has spent a liiiiitle too much time thinking about what happened 8 years ago and wasting precious service energy. Now, go find a helpful volunteer to give you your service detail. Yes, right, they’re the ones in the red tshirts with the white nut outline on the front. They’ll tell you what to do.

Chop Chop!

Diane on September 11, 2009 at 12:56 PM

simplesimon on September 11, 2009 at 12:53 PM

More babbling from the product of bestiality and incest.

atheling on September 11, 2009 at 12:56 PM

maverick muse on September 11, 2009 at 12:54 PM

True. Billy Jeff wanted OBL alive, but murdered all those children in Waco, TX.

alliebobbitt on September 11, 2009 at 12:57 PM

I wasnt talking about his speech to the kids..i was speaking in generalities.
becki51758 on September 11, 2009 at 12:52 PM

Free association on my part, you see.

maverick muse on September 11, 2009 at 12:57 PM

Which he’ll interrupt only long enough to assure the terrorists that America only wants to be their friend and we hold no ill will that they’ve killed Americans. It’s the way the filthy liar in the White House rolls.

highhopes on September 11, 2009 at 12:55 PM

Then he’ll use it to illustrate why we need national health care.

rockmom on September 11, 2009 at 12:57 PM

I lived in NYC when Giuliani was mayor. He was a belligerent, aggressive politician determined to have his way. While he turned the city around with lower crime rates, improved city services and a better economy, He antagonized so many people that had he left office on September 10, 2001 he would have been quickly forgotten.

What a difference a day makes. On 9/11 he was the city and the nation’s source of strength. When all was madness and chaos, he offered hope. He was prepared to tell it like it was when he said the casualties would be “more than any of us could bear.” I remember seeing news footage of him in subsequent days walking the streets cheered by almost everyone. And so he remains to me: the hero of the day.

KillerKane on September 11, 2009 at 12:58 PM

True. Billy Jeff wanted OBL alive, but murdered all those children in Waco, TX.

alliebobbitt on September 11, 2009 at 12:57 PM

So true, race fan. A fellow conservative named Tim McVeigh thought the same thing, you know…

simplesimon on September 11, 2009 at 12:58 PM

simple343 on September 11, 2009 at 12:36 PM

getalife.

Del Dolemonte on September 11, 2009 at 12:58 PM

dedalus on September 11, 2009 at 12:55 PM

Yes, there was Koch but he was Dem like JFK. The Little Flower probably would have sent the NYPD to destroy AQ. And they’d have done it, too, I like to imagine.

Wouldn’t that be a sight, huh?

Liam on September 11, 2009 at 12:58 PM

simplesimon on September 11, 2009 at 12:56 PM

Don’t hurt yourself trying to think of a snappy comeback.

alliebobbitt on September 11, 2009 at 12:59 PM

9/11 remembrance: Nothing on the front page of my paper this morning. Buried inside, a single AP article about the museum, and an AP article about muslims still fearing unspecified “backlash” on this day.

The quote that caught my eye was: “I get a sick feeling in my stomach every year”, said Nancy Rokayak, 45 of Charlotte, N.C., who covers her hair in public. “I feel on 9/11 others look at me and blame me for the events that took place.”

Events that took place. Sheesh. They were attacks. Attacks by muslim terrorists.

Note that she doesn’t get “a sick feeling” because she knows that it was her co-relionists who, in the name of her religion, deliberately murdered those innocents and forever befouled her religion. No. It because us “others” might look at her funny. And, with no proof whatsoever, thinks that those “looks” mean these “others” blame her, personally, for those “events”. Unreal.

Well, I get a sick feeling thinking that there are muslim terrorists out there, hiding behind her skirts, plotting to kill people like me for no reason other than that we are the “other”.

Also, nothing on the Google page again this year.

starboardhelm on September 11, 2009 at 1:00 PM

simplesimon on September 11, 2009 at 12:58 PM

So was it a donkey or a cow your mother/sister mated with?

atheling on September 11, 2009 at 1:00 PM

did you eat lead paint chips as a child?

upinak on September 11, 2009 at 12:42 PM

Retrograde inversion. That corrupt soul feeds the lead to the kiddies.

maverick muse on September 11, 2009 at 1:00 PM

So was it a donkey or a cow your mother/sister mated with?

atheling on September 11, 2009 at 1:00 PM

His daaaad is Billy Goat.

thomasaur on September 11, 2009 at 1:01 PM

So was it a donkey or a cow your mother/sister mated with?

atheling on September 11, 2009 at 1:00 PM

Whoa, pardner. Pull you pants up – i’m not going to indulge your sick countrified fantasies.

simplesimon on September 11, 2009 at 1:01 PM

Cheerleader claims an ‘imminent threat’ of WMDs. Cheerleader invades wrong country. Bad guys that carried out 9-11 get away. $1 Trillion squandered. Here we are 8 years later. The end.

simplesimon on September 11, 2009 at 12:53 PM

For God’s sake if you are going to be a liberal tool these days at least get the order of events correct:

GWB launched Operations in Afghanistan to take out the Taliban.

GWB works with a coalition to remove the preceived threat of WMD in Iraq.

Many bad guys locked up in Gitmo until the filthy liar in the White House decided to free them and set them up in beachfront luxury at taxpayer expense.

After eight years of dilligent concern about the threat of terrorism, we have an idiot President who doesn’t have a clue about national seicurity matters. America is very close to another massive terrorist attack as a result. The end- at least I’m through with you, go away.

highhopes on September 11, 2009 at 1:01 PM

simplesimon on September 11, 2009 at 12:58 PM

Thought what, having-sex-with-a-pie-man? That burning kids alive would be nifty? Your retort then is that Bubba was like Timothy McVeigh? So that makes him a centrist in your addled thinking, I guess.

alliebobbitt on September 11, 2009 at 1:02 PM

Are you like 12 or something, or are you just one of those pink haired anarchists phoning it in from a ratty Starbucks in Seattle?

NathanG on September 11, 2009 at 12:50 PM

Leave Simon alone. If you distract him, it will just take him longer to make my latte.

Laura in Maryland on September 11, 2009 at 1:02 PM

What’s convenient? Are you some kind of Truther who thinks Bush scheduled the reading so he would look surprised? You probably are that sick, since you think being a male cheerleader means you’re gay. alliebobbitt on September 11, 2009 at 12:54 PM

Yet another contingent that would kick his ass: Aggie Yell Leaders. They’d have him for lunch. Then the Corps, then….hell, George H.W. Bush.

NathanG on September 11, 2009 at 1:02 PM

KillerKane on September 11, 2009 at 12:58 PM

I think Rudy would have been remembered for all the achievements you listed, sans 9/11. He did lower crime, improve NYC’s economy and city services.

He did a lot of cleaning up after Stinkin’ Dinkins.

atheling on September 11, 2009 at 1:02 PM

His daaaad is Billy Goat.

thomasaur on September 11, 2009 at 1:01 PM

Ah, no wonder he brought up My Pet Goat. He is obsessed with that book, apparently.

atheling on September 11, 2009 at 1:03 PM

Ran the worst campaign ever. What’s with that?

ndulik on September 11, 2009 at 12:19 PM
He listened to “Republican Stategists.”

WashJeff on September 11, 2009 at 12:25 PM

Rudy’s goose was cooked when the Christian wing of the party turned on him, en masse and in unison, in Fall 07. It was ‘anybody but Rudy.’ Once that happened, he was stuck taking a long shot on that stupid FL strategy. So, instead of a real leader, we ended up with Huckleberry, Plastic Romneycare and McVain…and Chairman Maobama.

Think Rudy would choked and floundered when the market cratered in Sept, like the nominee did? Think he would have refused to talk about Maobama’s radicalism, like the nominee did? Think he would have been unable to articulate his economic message, as was the nominee?

Missed opportunity for us.

james23 on September 11, 2009 at 1:03 PM

If Bastard Clinton had targeted America’s enemies instead of the Branch Davidians, bin Laden would have burned despite the “swingset spotted by satellite imagery” beside his hide-out that “excused” procrastinating POTUS “permission” to take him out, rather than burning to death all those children and parents outside of Waco, TX.

maverick muse on September 11, 2009 at 12:54 PM

Madeline Albright didn’t think we had legal authority to seize Bin Laden when Sudan offered him up on a platter. We could have had him before he even went to Afghanistan. Jamie Gorelick told the lawyers at DOJ that CIA information could not be shared with the FBI or U.S. Attorneys. We could have arrested most of the hijackers that had been tracked by the CIA.

The lawyers in the Clinton Administration are responsible for 9/11.

rockmom on September 11, 2009 at 1:03 PM

Rudy…shares his memories and talks about the lessons of the awful day eight years ago.

Obama can’t get halfway through his message today before putting the spotlight on himself: http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2009/09/11/2009-09-11_obamas_message_on_911.html

Says a lot about these two men. Of course, You gotta feel sorry for the Kenyan. I sure it’s hard to make people understand how hard it was for him that day.

I mean, helping uh… consultants get their um… home loans was a very important way of helping young foreign national uh… dependents integrate themselves into community service… Amerika.

ROCnPhilly on September 11, 2009 at 1:03 PM

Cheerleader 1998-Bill Clinton claims an ‘imminent threat’ of WMDs.

Cheerleader 1998-Bill Clinton cites a working relationship between Iraq and al Qaeda.

2002: Democrats approve Bush’s plan and he invades wrong country. One year later, Clinton-appointed Federal Judge rules that Iraq played a role in 9/11 attacks.

simple343 on September 11, 2009 at 12:53 PM

Fixed it for you, kid. By adding some facts.

Del Dolemonte on September 11, 2009 at 1:04 PM

ThackerAgency on September 11, 2009 at 12:44 PM

He’s not trying that again. And like you, I agree that we should rally around good Republican politicians who love America, and get off the tightrope of demanding absolute perfection.

maverick muse on September 11, 2009 at 1:04 PM

He is obsessed with that book, apparently.

atheling on September 11, 2009 at 1:03 PM

It’s his Family Album.

thomasaur on September 11, 2009 at 1:04 PM

He is obsessed with that book, apparently.

atheling on September 11, 2009 at 1:03 PM
It’s his Family Album.

thomasaur on September 11, 2009 at 1:04 PM

LOL! I bet he makes GrowFins read it to him every night!

atheling on September 11, 2009 at 1:05 PM

I’m still not sure how Timothy McVeigh is a conservative, either. He was a white separatist, but that would make him a Pat Buchanan or Ron Paul “paleocon” nut.

alliebobbitt on September 11, 2009 at 1:05 PM

LASue on September 11, 2009 at 12:45 PM

THANK YOU. Again, I call myself on the carpet for missing RedState on a daily routine.

maverick muse on September 11, 2009 at 1:05 PM

Chop Chop!

Diane on September 11, 2009 at 12:56 PM

I’m tutoring underage Salvadoran hookers performance artists here in Baltimore. What’s your contribution?

Laura in Maryland on September 11, 2009 at 1:06 PM

Rudy’s goose was cooked when the Christian wing of the party turned on him, en masse and in unison, in Fall 07. It was ‘anybody but Rudy.’ Once that happened, he was stuck taking a long shot on that stupid FL strategy. So, instead of a real leader, we ended up with Huckleberry, Plastic Romneycare and McVain…and Chairman Maobama.

Think Rudy would choked and floundered when the market cratered in Sept, like the nominee did? Think he would have refused to talk about Maobama’s radicalism, like the nominee did? Think he would have been unable to articulate his economic message, as was the nominee?

Missed opportunity for us.

james23 on September 11, 2009 at 1:03 PM

Hillary’s people made sure the information about Giuliani’s then-girlfriend being driven around by the NYPD became public. That was a hit job. Rudy’s support among conservatives tanked after that.

Too bad Hillary’s people weren’t as afraid of Barack Obama in 2007.

rockmom on September 11, 2009 at 1:06 PM

I’m still not sure how Timothy McVeigh is a conservative, either. He was a white separatist, but that would make him a Pat Buchanan or Ron Paul “paleocon” nut.

alliebobbitt on September 11, 2009 at 1:05 PM

Registered Republican, lifelong NRA member. He’s yours. Admit it, he’s a conservative hero!

simplesimon on September 11, 2009 at 1:06 PM

The lawyers in the Clinton Administration are responsible for 9/11.

rockmom on September 11, 2009 at 1:03 PM

Tha attacks were in fact supposed to happen on Clinton’s watch.

Del Dolemonte on September 11, 2009 at 1:06 PM

His daaaad is Billy Goat.

thomasaur on September 11, 2009 at 1:01 PM

Ah, no wonder he brought up My Pet Goat. He is obsessed with that book, apparently.

atheling on September 11, 2009 at 1:03 PM

Dreams of My Faaaaather

alliebobbitt on September 11, 2009 at 1:08 PM

james23 on September 11, 2009 at 1:03 PM

Hey, I’m part of that “Christian Wing” and I like Rudy.

Like I said, I disagree with him on social issues, but I trusted him when he said he would leave abortion and gay marriage to the states, which is fine by me.

I would have preferred him to McCain, Romney or Huckabee.

Can you imagine a ticket with him and Sarah Palin? WOW!

atheling on September 11, 2009 at 1:08 PM

I’m tutoring underage Salvadoran hookers performance artists here in Baltimore. What’s your contribution?

Laura in Maryland on September 11, 2009 at 1:06 PM

Front desk receptionist at the broth….er…………..Sandwich Shop. um…

Diane on September 11, 2009 at 1:08 PM

Well said. Continuing to Read My Pet Goat for 7 minutes after being notified of the attacks shows the cowardice and helplessness of the former male cheerleader.

simplesimon on September 11, 2009 at 12:36 PM

I can’t wait until your hero is put to the test over American lives and see what your reaction is when he does nothing. OH wait, the Somali pirates proved my point already. Never mind.
FYI – Bush ain’t President anymore. Perhaps you should focus on the here and now instead of on your “days of glory gone by.”

mjk on September 11, 2009 at 1:09 PM

Registered Republican, lifelong NRA member. He’s yours. Admit it, he’s a conservative hero!

simplesimon on September 11, 2009 at 1:06 PM

Well, you said he was like Bill Clinton, so that would make him an Independent.

alliebobbitt on September 11, 2009 at 1:10 PM

simplesimon on September 11, 2009 at 1:06 PM

Does your mother/sister sleep with goats only, or is she an equal opportunity bestialist?

atheling on September 11, 2009 at 1:10 PM

Registered Republican, lifelong NRA member. He’s yours. Admit it, he’s a conservative hero!

simple343 on September 11, 2009 at 1:06 PM

He was registered as a Republican when he lived in Buffalo. But then he changed his registration and became a Libertarian.

And according to wiki he was only a member of the NRA when he was in the service.

Del Dolemonte on September 11, 2009 at 1:10 PM

Better example – A Sarah Palin rally. Some of those ‘Real Americans’ are ssscary!
September 11, 2009 at 12:50 PM

Acknowledged, authoritarian fascists and leftist progressives are scared of Sarah Palin.

God Bless Palin

maverick muse on September 11, 2009 at 1:10 PM

simplesimon on September 11, 2009 at 12:36 PM

Today is not the day for your crap,troll boy.

katy the mean old lady on September 11, 2009 at 1:11 PM

Cheerleader claims an ‘imminent threat’ of WMDs. Cheerleader invades wrong country. Bad guys that carried out 9-11 get away. $1 Trillion squandered. Here we are 8 years later. The end.

simplesimon on September 11, 2009 at 12:53 PM

Afghanistan was the wrong country to invade?

jcrue on September 11, 2009 at 1:11 PM

rockmom on September 11, 2009 at 12:50 PM

Some things never change, stupidly stuck on stupid.

maverick muse on September 11, 2009 at 1:12 PM

simplesemen:

Do you like it when people insult your mother/sister? I hope so. Because every time you open your pie hole, I’m gonna throw crap in it about your slut mother/sister.

atheling on September 11, 2009 at 1:12 PM

Well said. Continuing to Read My Pet Goat for 7 minutes after being notified of the attacks shows the cowardice and helplessness of the former male cheerleader.

simplesimon on September 11, 2009 at 12:36 PM

Wow, what a terrible, terrible man not to scare those poor little kids in that class. Unlike your hero that terrorized the city of New York by buzzing them with Air Force One and attending military jets. For a F**KING PHOTO OP!!!!!!

Cindy Munford on September 11, 2009 at 1:12 PM

simplesimon on September 11, 2009 at 1:06 PM

No hero to us and you know it. He’s a mass murderer like your boys Che, Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot, Uncle Ho, Lenin, Stalin, and Mussolini–to name a few.

My only regret about McVeigh is that he wasn’t killed before he murdered all those babies and other people. You know that, too, about me and the rest of us here.

You’re the demented one, and you don’t even know the depth of your insanity. This is so fun, but fun time is over. You get off being noticed and I’ve done you that favor. So, kiss my ass and make this all a love story.

Liam on September 11, 2009 at 1:12 PM

He was registered as a Republican when he lived in Buffalo. But then he changed his registration and became a Libertarian.

And according to wiki he was only a member of the NRA when he was in the service.

Del Dolemonte on September 11, 2009 at 1:10 PM

Never show facts to Howard Zinn, Jr. over there. He don’t need no stinkin’ facts. Just really bad jokes.

NathanG on September 11, 2009 at 1:13 PM

Today is not the day for your crap,troll boy.

katy the mean old lady on September 11, 2009 at 1:11 PM

Oh just you wait until Yom Hashoah comes back around. He and The Deaner will spend the entire day debating whether Hitler did bad things or not.

Respect for the murdered of 9/11 is not something our little man is capable of.

mjk on September 11, 2009 at 1:13 PM

So, kiss my ass and make this all a love story.

Liam on September 11, 2009 at 1:12 PM

He thinks My Pet Goat is a love story.

atheling on September 11, 2009 at 1:13 PM

Bad guys that carried out 9-11 get away.

Um, last I checked there, Einstein, the “bad guys that carried out 9/11″ were on the f**king planes. Unless, they’re like Superman or something.

mjk on September 11, 2009 at 1:14 PM

FYI – Bush ain’t President anymore. Perhaps you should focus on the here and now instead of on your “days of glory gone by.”

mjk on September 11, 2009 at 1:09 PM

It’s how brainwashed pinko commie liberals celebrate 9/11. By trashing Bush or anything else that might define America as a strong nation.

kirkill on September 11, 2009 at 1:15 PM

Well said. Continuing to Read My Pet Goat for 7 minutes after being notified of the attacks shows the cowardice and helplessness of the former male cheerleader.

simplesimon on September 11, 2009 at 12:36 PM

Wow, what a terrible, terrible man not to scare those poor little kids in that class. Unlike your hero that terrorized the city of New York by buzzing them with Air Force One and attending military jets. For a F**KING PHOTO OP!!!!!!

Cindy Munford on September 11, 2009 at 1:12 PM

Had it all happened today, it would have been My Pet Goat, but Das Kapital.

jcrue on September 11, 2009 at 1:16 PM

I think Rudy would have been remembered for all the achievements you listed, sans 9/11. He did lower crime, improve NYC’s economy and city services.

He did a lot of cleaning up after Stinkin’ Dinkins.

atheling on September 11, 2009 at 1:02 PM

Rudy Giuliani was the first Mayor of New York to reduce taxes in 50 years.

He reformed welfare and the city’s welfare rolls shrank for the first time EVER. The program was a model for the federal welfare reform bill in 1996 that has been so successful in getting millions off welfare.

He protested federal funding for “art” that offended millions of Christians, and closed the Brooklyn Museum of Art when it displayed such “art.”

He refused a $10 million check from a Saudi prince after 9/11, and refused to meet with Yasser Arafat every time he came to New York for a UN shindig.

He refused to be bullied or mau-maued by charlatans like Rev. Al Sharpton. He defended Korean businesses being attacked by Sharpton and his mobs.

Giuliani’s administration as Mayor was a model of successful conservative governance. It’s a shame that conservatives let their feelings about his personal life and his stance on abortion blind them to his adherence to conservative governing principles. I’d rather have a pro-choice philanderer in the White House who understands how jobs are created and how America should be defended than a tax-raising, job-killing, America-hating socialist.

rockmom on September 11, 2009 at 1:16 PM

….it would have NOT been My Pet Goat…

jcrue on September 11, 2009 at 1:16 PM

atheling on September 11, 2009 at 1:13 PM

I bet he has a favorite sister/daughter

Liam on September 11, 2009 at 1:17 PM

Liberal terrorists include The Sons of Liberty, John Brown, IWW, Joe Hill, SLA, UMW, the Weather Underground, the Manson Family, the KKK (Robert C. Byrd was a member!), Oswald, Sirhan Sirhan, James Earl Ray, killer of Medgar Evars.

alliebobbitt on September 11, 2009 at 1:17 PM

The lawyers in the Clinton Administration are responsible for 9/11.

rockmom on September 11, 2009 at 1:03 PM

Yes. The lawyers in the Clinton Administration include Billy Jeff. And yes, I’m aware that during Clinton’s tenure, there were at least 10 opportunities the CIA reportedly had to take out bin Laden that failed to get immediate clearance from the Oval Office.

maverick muse on September 11, 2009 at 1:17 PM

Registered Republican, lifelong NRA member. He’s yours. Admit it, he’s a conservative hero!

simplesimon on September 11, 2009 at 1:06 PM

People convicted of murder who were registered to vote are almost entirely Democrats. Admit it, they’re liberal heros!

same invalid argument…..

Janos Hunyadi on September 11, 2009 at 1:19 PM

What a difference a day makes. On 9/11 he was the city and the nation’s source of strength. When all was madness and chaos, he offered hope. He was prepared to tell it like it was when he said the casualties would be “more than any of us could bear.” I remember seeing news footage of him in subsequent days walking the streets cheered by almost everyone. And so he remains to me: the hero of the day.

KillerKane on September 11, 2009 at 12:58 PM

Well said.

As a New Yorker, I also felt comfort that Rudy was there in the aftermath. He’s a polarizing figure (and certainly irascible), but he came through during a devastating national crisis. I’d be happy to support him if he choses to run for Governor.

anXdem on September 11, 2009 at 1:20 PM

I bet he has a favorite sister/daughter

Liam on September 11, 2009 at 1:17 PM

Oh dear God. You’re probably right. What a disgusting piece of filth.

atheling on September 11, 2009 at 1:20 PM

I’d rather have a pro-choice philanderer in the White House who understands how jobs are created and how America should be defended than a tax-raising, job-killing, America-hating socialist.

rockmom on September 11, 2009 at 1:16 PM

Well, since they’re both pro choice I’d take Rudy anyday. But as I said before, he would have left the abortion issue up to the states, which is okay by me. But if it were between a pro life candidate with the same record, I’d take that person over Rudy.

However, I trust Rudy to do what’s good for America in terms of national security, period.

atheling on September 11, 2009 at 1:23 PM

atheling on September 11, 2009 at 1:20 PM

I figure that, were he a rapist with a gun to a woman’s head, she’d rather take the bullet.

Liam on September 11, 2009 at 1:23 PM

I figure that, were he a rapist with a gun to a woman’s head, she’d rather take the bullet.

Liam on September 11, 2009 at 1:23 PM

I know I would.

But it’s moot point, since he obviously prefers animals to humans. Blech.

atheling on September 11, 2009 at 1:24 PM

is every 9/11 thread today going to turn into a comment trainwreck?

MadisonConservative on September 11, 2009 at 12:55 PM

I’m afraid it probably will. Trolling on a day like today is unforgivable, but as they know no shame and have no decency days like today are the PERFECT time for them to spew their bile.

And on such a day, not “feeding” them is going to take an iron will. There are people who are so decent here that some believe the trolls can be taught, helped, even saved, if they only logically explain to the troll where they are going wrong. There are others who are just (rightfully) mad as hell that people would troll today and about such topics and can’t help themselves from blasting them.

Frankly, I think Ed &/or Allah should break out the banhammer for this and trolls on the other thread(s). They have banned people over less (in my opinion).

Regardless, Rudy did a wonderful job, he cleaned up NYC making it a significantly safer place to live and work in, and sadly isn’t called Mr. President today. Hopefully, I can at least call him Gov. Guliani soon.

Bless all of you and yours and remember those who have fallen, and those who fight to keep us safe.

DrAllecon on September 11, 2009 at 1:25 PM

jcrue on September 11, 2009 at 1:16 PM

No telling what The Won would think was appropriate reading material to primary students. Of course I could have been less kind and go with the theory of a joy ride for large campaign contributors then the lame excuse the White House used. Photo Op my Aunt Agnes.

Cindy Munford on September 11, 2009 at 1:25 PM

Hey goat boy simon—-Did it ever occur to your pathetic, evil minded little brain that maybe Bush took a few minutes to assess the situation rather than running around flapping his arms like your hero wee wee Herman would do.

arnold ziffel on September 11, 2009 at 1:25 PM

Somewhat related:

Texas governor sends Rangers to Mexico border

Sugarbuzz on September 11, 2009 at 1:27 PM

Frankly, I think Ed &/or Allah should break out the banhammer for this and trolls on the other thread(s). They have banned people over less (in my opinion).

DrAllecon on September 11, 2009 at 1:25 PM

Amen! This day, of all days, should be one where we have zero tolerance for ugly trolls spewing their vicious lies.
Do it for the victims of 9/11, Hot Air!

atheling on September 11, 2009 at 1:27 PM

atheling on September 11, 2009 at 1:24 PM

Not really. Simplesimon chose his moniker for a reason. That alone tells of him before he even posted here. Seriously, what person chooses a moniker that people will mock? Among us, we use either our names or handles that basically tell our characters.

Simplesimon is too easy to profile. He gets off being a dick, he gets into being mocked by the things he posts. Were he a true Marxist, he’d be making his case according to Marx. I’ve seen true Marxists, and they speak with conviction. Simmie has no convictions.

I have toyed with him for fun, but I’ve run out my lot. If we can’t get him banned, ignoring him in the fullest no matter how angry he makes us, will eventually get him to go away.

Liam on September 11, 2009 at 1:31 PM

Liam on September 11, 2009 at 1:31 PM

Brilliant evaluation!

alliebobbitt on September 11, 2009 at 1:35 PM

alliebobbitt on September 11, 2009 at 1:35 PM

Thank you so much!

He and others like him are so easy to profile they should be ashamed of themselves.

Liam on September 11, 2009 at 1:36 PM

Rudy like always is right when it comes to national security. Too bad that a few nuts in the GOP didn’t support him b/c he wasn’t pro life, I’m pro life but was willing to give Rudy a shot instead we ended up with McCain a lot weaker choice than Rudy.

lavell12 on September 11, 2009 at 1:38 PM

Do you like it when people insult your mother/sister? I hope so. Because every time you open your pie hole, I’m gonna throw crap in it about your slut mother/sister.

atheling on September 11, 2009 at 1:12 PM

You wound me, race fan! In the words of the former male cheerleader – Bring em On!

simplesimon on September 11, 2009 at 1:39 PM

Liam on September 11, 2009 at 1:31 PM

Last night I accused him of having an old sctick (if you get my drift). I never got a response which I of course took to mean that it’s true.

I too am bored with him. I’m sick of reading his idiotic garbage. If he can’t even turn it off for 9/11, then he’s dead to me.

mjk on September 11, 2009 at 1:39 PM

mjk on September 11, 2009 at 1:39 PM

He’s dead to himself, actually. So, he needs to kill others in a figurative way to be able to feel somehow alive. It’s his stock-in-trade, with a bit of masochism in his mix. He can’t help himself; he’s the type who would complain at the Second Coming tho Jesus returns to save the world from final destruction.

Liam on September 11, 2009 at 1:45 PM

I have a question, maybe rhetorical at best: Why are all of you liberals who want to squash the freedom of speech and religion and press of those who don’t hold your same ideologies posting here when you should be out doing your “Acts of Service”? Don’t you want to find favor with your Obamamessiah and get into Obamaheaven?? Please go do something constructive like pick up trash along your local turnpike or do a FOD walk on an active runway or paint the Golden Gate Bridge without scaffolding and a harness (Here’s hoping it’s extremely windy in SF!). I mean, please. If you are a true believer, (forgive the Capitalist pig lingo) put your money where your gaping maw is. (gaping maw translates to big mouth. thought the translation was needed for the trolls.)

Remember, remember, remember. Pray, pray, pray. God Bless Israel, God Bless America, and God protect us and our freedoms from the over-abundance of idiots we have in elected office.

Obama, “You Lie!” God Bless you Congressman Joe Wilson. Mr. Guiliani, you were the right leader in place at the right time. Good job.

Driefromseattle on September 11, 2009 at 1:45 PM

Cheerleader claims an ‘imminent threat’ of WMDs. Cheerleader invades wrong country. Bad guys that carried out 9-11 get away. $1 Trillion squandered. Here we are 8 years later. The end.

Bah, you’re right. What we should have done is ignored all those UN resolutions that Saddam had violated and kicked the can down the road…all the while, costing us maybe $3 trillion in personnel, weapon replacement and repair, continued surveillance, and not to mention increased security costs due to any potential risk that Saddam might contribute following 9/11, up to and including additional attacks on US soil. I mean, after all, Bin Laden and Saddam had nothing in common, right? …Right?

Oh, and that $1 Trillion was just frivolously spent. I mean, ACORN >>>> National Defense, right? Let’s not spend a single tax payer dollar on something we need (such as protecting our citizens) but blow it on something we don’t (like National Healthcare for citizens who could, you know…actually afford it but choose not to).

Yep, you’re absolutely right. We should have just ignored Saddam altogether. /facepalm

…The End.

CatsGodot on September 11, 2009 at 1:47 PM

Liam on September 11, 2009 at 1:31 PM
Last night I accused him of having an old sctick (if you get my drift). I never got a response which I of course took to mean that it’s true

He doesn’t have an old stick. Judging from his emotional maturity, I’d say he’s about 19.

NathanG on September 11, 2009 at 1:49 PM

Why are all of you liberals who want to squash the freedom of speech and religion and press of those who don’t hold your same ideologies posting here when you should be out doing your “Acts of Service”?

Because talk is cheap. And liberals don’t like spending a dollar–they force us hard-working (typically conservative or independent) folks pay for them.

Same rule applies for action. Don’t you remember how Clinton (and Obama) wanted “forced volunteerism”? ….So…that. Yeah.

CatsGodot on September 11, 2009 at 1:50 PM

NathanG on September 11, 2009 at 1:49 PM

I think he’s older, actually, in years. As for emotional maturity, I’d put him 16 or so. What I’ve noticed is that people who take up pot, coke, alcohol, what-have-you stop emotionally developing at the age they got hooked. I can’t say for sure Simmie has done that, but something is seriously wrong in his head.

He’s basically a destroyer, a ravenous lion looking for something to devour. Being him has to be a horrible experience.

I may not have everything right, as it were, but at least I can WHY I hold the beliefs and treasures I do. Simmie can’t do that. He finds self-esteem by attention and, terribly, the more negative it is the happier he feels.

Liam on September 11, 2009 at 1:58 PM

Ralph Peters is correct, we learned nothing from 9/11. America Wake the Fuck UP.

lavell12 on September 11, 2009 at 2:02 PM

“Obama Announces Recommendations of ’9/10 Commission’ to Restore Pre-9/11 Mentality” http://optoons.blogspot.com/2009/04/obama-announces-recommendations-of-910_25.html

Mervis Winter on September 11, 2009 at 2:03 PM

Rudy is great. He should have been President. Hopefully he will run for Governor of NY! And I will keep my fingers crossed for the very remote possibility of 2012.

athenanyc on September 11, 2009 at 2:04 PM

Fred Thompson asks Obama,

Is ‘win’ no longer a word in our vocabulary?”

Fred and Jerry are conducting some very interesting conversations with others now.

Hour 1: Andy McCarthy – Senior Fellow at the National Review Institute & Contributing Editor at National Review
Hour 2: Cliff May – President of the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies

maverick muse on September 11, 2009 at 2:09 PM

I will never forget Rudy Giuliani’s heroism on 9/11…My prayers and thanks go out to him today.

djn on September 11, 2009 at 2:11 PM

…. Bad guys that carried out 9-11 get away…

simplesimon on September 11, 2009 at 12:53 PM

I’m pretty sure the guys who carried it out ended up in tiny pieces on 5th avenue.

Vashta.Nerada on September 11, 2009 at 2:12 PM

Obama’s “National Day of Service”
On Sept. 11, 2001 Al Qaeda did this country a great service.

Electrongod on September 11, 2009 at 2:16 PM

One thing that must be done as the years go by is we must educate those who were too young to understand what happened and we must educate those who don’t understand why it happened.

The best documentary I’ve seen on 9/11 and how it came to be is National Geographic’s Inside 9/11. It’s available on DVD and is shown once in a while on NatGeo TV.

This show goes WAY back in time to look at how we came to be attacked. This did NOT start under the Bush administration (either Bush) and while our situation was worsened by the non-action of the Clinton administration, the birth of what would eventually be the 9/11 attacks came a long time before.

This documentary takes the viewer back to, I believe, the Carter administration and draws a very compelling, easy-to-understand path that leads right up to that horrible day.

9/11 happened as a result of years and years of people looking the other way and ignoring warnings and other attacks because they did not want to deal with the hard, cold truth that is terrorism.

If we do not educate ourselves and those around us, we are going to see this happen again. Please, let’s do what it takes, whatever it takes, to make sure that doesn’t occur.

Get Inside 9/11, watch it, learn from it and pass it on so someone else can. It’s one of the few documentaries that is willing to look beyond the partisan BS and into what really caused this to happen.

Mad Mad Monica on September 11, 2009 at 2:18 PM

Sugarbuzz,

Thanks for that link. I hadn’t heard. Glad to know. The kidnappings, murders and thieving from Mexican drug cartels along the border are so far out of hand! Obama go to hell holding Kay Bailey in your handbasket, ignoring the security of Americans, particularly in Texas.

Perry said the effort also would focus on remote areas where farmers and ranchers have complained of being overrun by smugglers and gangs from Mexico in numbers that also overwhelm local law enforcement and border patrol officers.

“Washington is shortchanging them, not giving them the support they need,” Perry said. “As a result, we’re having to dedicate our resources to deal with the challenges we have along the Texas-Mexico border and ensuing issues that porous border has created all across state of Texas.”

He said the state would pick up the tab of $110 million, allocated by the Legislature in the past two sessions.

Perry’s announcement drew immediate criticism from U.S. Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison, who is running against the two-term incumbent in the March GOP primary.

Even Clinton set up failure for our law enforcement in Texas when he ordered the armed force rookies from elsewhere, all hyped up, trained for warfare, to enforce border control, killing a goat herding boy.

Border Patrol and Texas Rangers know the score on the border, and don’t target an American citizen lone boy herding goats.

Damn Hutchison’s sell-out.

maverick muse on September 11, 2009 at 2:28 PM

Well said. Continuing to Read My Pet Goat for 7 minutes after being notified of the attacks shows the cowardice and helplessness of the former male cheerleader.

simplesimon on September 11, 2009 at 12:36 PM

If you’re going to be a giant, gaping a$$hole, at least be an accurate one, it was exactly five minutes, not seven. Had he jumped up and panicked like you would have, he would have terrified those kids for no reason and you’d be complaining about his lack of ‘cool’ now. You suck.

Monica on September 11, 2009 at 2:28 PM

lavell12

Nice song.

Where were you when the world stopped turning? – 9-11 tribute

maverick muse on September 11, 2009 at 2:34 PM

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