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posted at 5:50 pm on September 10, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
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Barack Obama and the Democrats like to offer the rhetorical formulation of, “No American should have to choose between health care and [blank],” where the second option is usually rent or food.  However, at the income levels Democrats use to set federal subsidies, the choices for discretionary spending go far beyond the essentials — unless one has a skewed definition of essentialsReason.tv offers a video lesson in American entitlement thinking and prioritization that adds some odd items to that definition:

Essentials in the Age of Obama:

  • Protein powder
  • Jeans with white stitching
  • 40s

Best line in the entire clip? “Why do I not have health insurance?  Because I live in America.”  The expectation of this young man (and I use that word advisedly) is that everyone else should pay for the health insurance he chooses not to buy, so that he can continue contributing to society by … getting drunk.

Life is about choices and responsibility.  Failure to make wise choices and exercise responsibility should not encumber us with the burden of indemnifying stupidity.  They want to take the risk and offload the consequences to everyone else.  That’s exactly what this program will do for those people who can afford insurance but can’t be bothered to buy it.

Nick Gillespie expands another issue of individual involvement in a more serious vein:

Here’s a more basic question when it comes to controlling costs: The easiest way to do this is to make the person doing the buying actually pay the price. You haggle more when the change is coming out of your own pocket. Or, alternatively, you splurge because you’re worth it. Earlier this year, my coverage changed from a conventional network preferred-provider plan with a standard co-pay for prescription drugs to a high-dollar deductible plan in which I essentially pay the first $2,000 dollars of medical care I consume in a year (any unused money rolls over in a Medical Savings Account that I can use in the following year). As my doctor prescribed me a brand-name drug, I thought about the cost and whether there were any possible alternatives. For the first time I can recall, I actually had a conversation with my doctor—right there, in the examination room—about medical costs. We settled on a generic alternative, saving me roughly $75 on that particular transaction. More recently, we had a similar conversation, in which he didn’t know the costs of a name-brand drug and a generic alternative—a sign that the medical system has a long way to go in terms of customer service. Imagine going into an auto shop and the mechanic not being able to quote you the price difference between a new and refurbished part.

Yet exchanges such as the ones above are small examples of price signals being injected into a system that has consciously erected a series of mufflers, walls, and funhouse mirrors precisely to make it impossible for consumers to even know what they are paying, much less how to evaluate alternative plans of action. The blame here is shared by government policymakers, insurance bureaucrats, and medical providers, all of whom have some stake in a status quo that serves them tolerably well. Any reform that doesn’t explicitly and transparently harness the same basic market forces that have driven down prices and improved quality throughout the economy over the past several decades simply will not work at containing costs and thus, expanding access (cheaper, better goods and services, whether we’re talking about automobiles or plane tickets or gourmet coffee, have a way of leaching out into every level of society).

Or, alternatively, we could just encourage everyone to buy 40s and get drunk rather than think rationally about health care.


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No American should have to choose between health care and liberty.

Liam on September 10, 2009 at 5:52 PM

40’s? The kid obviously has never seen a growler.

But either way. He doesn’t want healthcare either LOL.

upinak on September 10, 2009 at 5:53 PM

Life is full of choices. No american should have to have their government make them.

Scrappy on September 10, 2009 at 5:56 PM

Was that Manny???

PappaMac on September 10, 2009 at 5:57 PM

hahaha I got drunk instead. That was great.

becki51758 on September 10, 2009 at 5:57 PM

Failure to make wise choices and exercise responsibility should not encumber us with the burden of indemnifying stupidity.

You are on fire with wordy goodness today, Mr. Morrissey.

myrenovations on September 10, 2009 at 5:57 PM

This stuff resonates!

clorensen on September 10, 2009 at 5:58 PM

No American should have to choose between health care and a fine.

JusDreamin on September 10, 2009 at 5:58 PM

No American should have to choose between health care and …

A Pony!!

Zam88 on September 10, 2009 at 5:59 PM

Imagine going into an auto shop and the mechanic not being able to quote you the price difference between a new and refurbished part.

Being in the collision repair business I can say that is built into the estimating software we employ. The tricky part is that some insurance companies tell us to use non-OEM parts. In order to not loose the insurance business, we need to keep our yapper shut unless the customer asks…then we can put pressure on the insurance company.

WashJeff on September 10, 2009 at 5:59 PM

No American should have to choose between health care and an iPhone.

Hening on September 10, 2009 at 6:00 PM

No American should have to choose between government run public option health care and co-opt health insurance (same thing). Stay outta’ my life and my wallet, Obama.

Fletch54 on September 10, 2009 at 6:00 PM

Why should I have to get a job, make money, and do hard work? I can just hold my hand out and the Democrats will give it all to me.

No American should have to choose between living and fun–we should just be entitled to the living part while we live the fun!

Enoxo on September 10, 2009 at 6:01 PM

Because no American should have to choose between health care and some really cool stuff.

Wonder why none of these heart rending examples were offered last evening?

oh, /sacr off

gonegaltinstl on September 10, 2009 at 6:01 PM

No American should have to choose between health care and …
A Pony!! A unicorn

Zam88 on September 10, 2009 at 5:59 PM

modest hopey correction.

gonegaltinstl on September 10, 2009 at 6:03 PM

Live hard, die young, leave a good looking corpse.

portlandon on September 10, 2009 at 6:05 PM

This video could be foreshadowing two possibilities:

1) That a 40 will be a better health-coverage choice than Obamacare (this takes competition to a whole new level), or…

2) Obamacare rationing will provide the sick and dying with their choice of one low-priced 40 (ex: Milwaukee’s Best)

It can’t get better than this, can it?

Constewardtive on September 10, 2009 at 6:06 PM

No American should have to choose between health care and their $4,500 credit for a BRAND NEW CAR!!!

stldave on September 10, 2009 at 6:06 PM

I may have to give up my big screen and iPhone to buy insurance? That is ripping me off.

seven on September 10, 2009 at 6:07 PM

just keep shortening it and it becomes “No American should have to choose….”

we should already have the choice made for them….

I’m from the government and I’m here to help…

ted c on September 10, 2009 at 6:08 PM

Live hard, die young, leave a good looking corpse.

portlandon on September 10, 2009 at 6:05 PM

He can’t donate the organs either. ;)

upinak on September 10, 2009 at 6:09 PM

No American should have to choose between health care and their $4,500 credit for a BRAND NEW CAR!!!

stldave on September 10, 2009 at 6:06 PM

you havbe to pay taxes on the 4500. Don’t foget that.

upinak on September 10, 2009 at 6:09 PM

This American chooses the constitution over mandated health care.

fourdeucer on September 10, 2009 at 6:09 PM

This American chooses the constitution over mandated health care.

fourdeucer on September 10, 2009 at 6:09 PM

+1

Liam on September 10, 2009 at 6:11 PM

Winner!

No American should have to choose between health care and liberty.

Liam on September 10, 2009 at 5:52 PM

Not only the first post, but slam on right.

TXUS on September 10, 2009 at 6:13 PM

Solution! Booze Stamps!

ronsfi on September 10, 2009 at 6:14 PM

Live hard, die young, leave a good looking corpse.

portlandon on September 10, 2009 at 6:05 PM

He can’t donate the organs either. ;)

upinak on September 10, 2009 at 6:09 PM

I thought they were all for going Green? A green liver is bad? LOL!

portlandon on September 10, 2009 at 6:17 PM

TXUS on September 10, 2009 at 6:13 PM

Thanks! If TX secedes, I’m moving there.

Liam on September 10, 2009 at 6:17 PM

…liberty.

Jim Treacher on September 10, 2009 at 6:20 PM

Sex.

Cicero43 on September 10, 2009 at 6:20 PM

OT: Guess who’s going to be on 60 minutes this Sunday?

You get two chances to answer, and your first one doesn’t count. The answer is below backwards.

amabO .A

Enoxo on September 10, 2009 at 6:21 PM

No American should have to choose between health care and Deez Nutz.

5u93rm4n on September 10, 2009 at 6:22 PM

Solution! Booze Stamps!

ronsfi on September 10, 2009 at 6:14 PM

lol

On second thought, that’ll probably be up on the agenda soon, wasn’t alcohol a big part of how the Soviet’s kept the masses in line for so long?

Mulligan on September 10, 2009 at 6:26 PM

40’s? The kid obviously has never seen a growler.

But either way. He doesn’t want healthcare either LOL.

upinak on September 10, 2009 at 5:53 PM

Haven’t hear that in years. Only the “biggies” could run the growler.

katy the mean old lady on September 10, 2009 at 6:28 PM

Solution! Booze Stamps!

ronsfi on September 10, 2009 at 6:14 PM

Actually, the choices between treating a addict and a sick child will become blurred. Just get in line, I’ve got twenty minutes left in my shift and Juanita will take care of you.

whbates on September 10, 2009 at 6:29 PM

whbates on September 10, 2009 at 6:29 PM

Want to save Obama money? Save the kids unless the mom wants an abortion, and shoot the addicts first.

Then do the abortions.

Frugality in action, the Obama way.

Liam on September 10, 2009 at 6:32 PM

This was weak. The only people who would agree with the premise of this video are people who are against Obama’s plan anyway.

I fail to see how people who are either currently supporting the plan or who haven’t decided will be against Obama’s plan after this video.

This just makes reform seem unnecessary but if you really want to change minds give the alternative instead of making unclear jibes against the current plan on the table.

ckoeber on September 10, 2009 at 6:36 PM

Here’s a “health care” plan idea: How about a whole lot of folks get off their fat butts, get to a gym every day and stop eating crap? Your need for “health care” (which is really “sick care”) will decrease substantially while your confidence and self-sufficiency grows!

If we want government involvement, we could taxpayer-fund gym memberships with personal trainers for every willing American, with super-low insurance rates as the carrot. Maybe we could actually develop a nation of strong, independent people instead of the government-clinging-weenies we have now!

MochaLite on September 10, 2009 at 6:39 PM

I love the HSA system that is now in place, yet this insurance, which is both affordable and provides solid coverage will not be allowed under Obama care because it doesn’t provide without costs a number of items.

Why is it more affordable? Because it offloads a bit of the risk to the individual, thus providing enough of a reason for the individual to become more cost consious, but knowing they have a ‘catastrophe stop’ so to speak.

For once, I wish they just look at the cost drivers for the medical field and maybe then, they might find the real culprit of the cost spiral.

TKSnider on September 10, 2009 at 6:48 PM

Here’s a “health care” plan idea: How about a whole lot of folks get off their fat butts, get a job, get to a gym every day after work and stop eating crap? Your need for “health care” (which is really “sick care”) will decrease substantially while your confidence and self-sufficiency grows!

If we want government involvement, we could taxpayer-fund gym memberships with personal trainers for every willing American, with super-low insurance rates as the carrot. Maybe we could actually develop a nation of strong, independent people instead of the government-clinging-weenies we have now!

MochaLite on September 10, 2009 at 6:39 PM

FIFY

CC

CapedConservative on September 10, 2009 at 6:49 PM

Show of hands, how many people pay more for their cable/internet/cell phone service per month than they do for their portion of their insurance premium?

cadams on September 10, 2009 at 6:49 PM

Thanks! If TX secedes, I’m moving there.

Liam on September 10, 2009 at 6:17 PM

We got plenty of room now. But if we secede, rest assured there will have to be a rather large border fence to our North, East, and West.

As to our South, not too worried. Been there, done that.

TXUS on September 10, 2009 at 7:01 PM

No American should have a choice, period! — The Precedent

ya2daup on September 10, 2009 at 7:23 PM

If I’m going to be paying for their health care, then I demand the right to control what and how much they drink. It’s only fair, given the fact that drinking can increase health care costs.

malclave on September 10, 2009 at 7:25 PM

Show of hands, how many people pay more for their cable/internet/cell phone service per month than they do for their portion of their insurance premium?

cadams on September 10, 2009 at 6:49 PM

No hand here. Don’t have cable. Cell is $35/mo which is less than the premium.

Don’t buy no 40s, stitched jeans, lottery tickets or iPhones neither.

But I have my…

FREEEEDDDOMMMMM!!

/priceless

inviolet on September 10, 2009 at 7:31 PM

CapedConservative – good fix!

MochaLite on September 10, 2009 at 7:32 PM

This video could be foreshadowing two possibilities:

1) That a 40 will be a better health-coverage choice than Obamacare (this takes competition to a whole new level), or…

2) Obamacare rationing will provide the sick and dying with their choice of one low-priced 40 (ex: Milwaukee’s Best)

It can’t get better than this, can it?

Constewardtive on September 10, 2009 at 6:06 PM

Sheeeeeeet..evree budee noze dat yaw ain’t gonna git yoe sum Milwaukee’s Bes..yoe gittin’ sum Schlitz Malt or Olde Enlesh 800, fur reel dude

Jeff from WI on September 10, 2009 at 7:39 PM

I’d git mee sum dat inshurance but I gotz ta git me new skeakars to pimp ma ride homey

Jeff from WI on September 10, 2009 at 7:41 PM

I gotz me five mamas wit ma kidz an da wefair gibs dem plentee ov monee an fude stampz and ifen day needz tago to da doktar, da wefair paez fur dat to

Jeff from WI on September 10, 2009 at 7:43 PM

Or, alternatively, we could just encourage everyone to buy 40s and get drunk rather than think rationally about health care.

I drink bourbon but otherwise I agree with you. Getting drunk is far superior to “thinking” about stuff.

Big E on September 10, 2009 at 7:50 PM

I once had a 2 hour argument with a young female in a pub when ClintonCare© was shot down. She bemoaned the fact that she, a single woman in her early 20’s, could not afford to have a baby without the government paying for her expenses. I incredulously asked her why she would be so selfish as to want to bring a baby in the world when she had done nothing to prepare to be a fit parent. Beginning with being married to a suitable partner to help care for the child. And why I should help pay for her irresponsibility?

Somehow, she has not kept in touch with me over the years.

MoCoM on September 10, 2009 at 7:58 PM

Civil War…it’s time to take out the garbage….

jwp1964 on September 10, 2009 at 8:08 PM

I heard a lady on the radio make an interesting observation. She noted that if you want to know who takes nice vacations talk to waitresses and waiters. They don’t have insurance normally but they take nice holidays.

CWforFreedom on September 10, 2009 at 8:23 PM

For once, I wish they just look at the cost drivers for the medical field and maybe then, they might find the real culprit of the cost spiral.

TKSnider on September 10, 2009 at 6:48 PM

I keep coming back to “innovation” as a key cost driver, which is actually a good thing. Think about it, it’s not aspirin or antibiotics that are driving prices up. Those things have been around for years and are commodities, which means there are plenty of substitutable manufacturers and you have to compete at least partially on price. It’s the new drugs and treatments that are expensive, because the companies are trying to recoup their R&D costs and make a profit while their patent is in force.

But, you’re right, I’d like to see a pie chart that breaks down the % cost increase year-over-year from different cost categories. If “innovation” is driving most of the cost increase, and individuals want to save money on their health care, use “last year’s” treatments.

venividivici on September 10, 2009 at 9:01 PM

No American should have to choose between health care and liberty.

Liam on September 10, 2009 at 5:52 PM

I concur.

Cr4sh Dummy on September 10, 2009 at 11:32 PM

No one chooses between health care and —-. Just go to your county hospital emergency room for care.
It’s health insurance.

conservativegrandma on September 11, 2009 at 12:18 AM

off subject here, but Ed where is your usual Steelers post?

disillusioned on September 11, 2009 at 1:42 AM

…liberty.

Jim Treacher on September 10, 2009 at 6:20 PM

Heh.

RD on September 11, 2009 at 5:53 AM

NO AMERICAN SHOULD HAVE TO CHOOSE BETWEEN HEALTHCARE AND COMMUNISM….GO TO A CASH SYSTEM-START BEING A CAPITALIST COUNTRY INSTEAD OF A PSUEDO COMMUNIST STATE…

adamsmith on September 11, 2009 at 6:59 AM

The cost at hospitals for doctors visits in ridiculous. When my father was there for a serious condition a few years back, a specialist stuck his head in Dad’s room and asked how he felt. He may have read Dad chart at the nurse’s station, regardless he charged $350 on the bill. This is some of the crap that needs to stop.

amr on September 11, 2009 at 7:28 AM

Hey TXUS, if Texas secedes Oklahoma will be coming with you. You’ll need some brains to go with all that brawn. ;)

JackOkie on September 11, 2009 at 9:14 AM

This is the end result of President Lyndon B. Johnsons great society.

TrickyDick on September 11, 2009 at 1:49 PM

Show of hands, how many people pay more for their cable/internet/cell phone service per month than they do for their portion of their insurance premium?

cadams on September 10, 2009 at 6:49 PM

Cable+Home Phone+Internet = $145
Cell Phones for Me, Wife and 2 Kids=$90
Total = $235
My cost for health insurance per month (family plan) = $425

Getting to make my own choices about health care coverage:
PRICELESS!

MidWestFarmer on September 11, 2009 at 2:09 PM

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