Durbin: Don’t expect cap-and-trade this year

posted at 2:19 pm on September 10, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

If people think the health-care debate has been contentious, just wait until the Senate takes up cap-and-trade.  That wait may be longer than first thought, as Democrats in the Senate have less unanimity on the climate-change legislation than on ObamaCare.  After a bruising summer of Democratic discontent, Dick Durbin (D-IL), Harry Reid’s chief lieutenant, feels no rush to start an argument that will further fracture the party:

Several U.S. Senate Democrats, including a top leader, on Wednesday questioned whether it would be possible to vote on a climate change bill this year, especially with healthcare reform eating up so much of the lawmakers’ time.

“It’s a difficult schedule” with many members already “anxious” about healthcare reform, Senator Dick Durbin, the second-ranking Democrat, told Reuters when asked about prospects this year for a bill to cap emissions of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases.

President Barack Obama is engaged in the toughest fight of his presidency in trying to win passage of expanded healthcare. Obama also has called on Congress to approve legislation this year to control climate change by reducing pollutants from utilities, oil refineries and factories.

Besides the need to pass the complex healthcare bill this year, which Durbin said was “first in the queue,” he also noted the need to tackle legislation imposing stricter rules on the U.S. financial industry.

Durbin said it was unclear whether the climate bill or financial industry reform would be a higher priority in 2009.

Politically speaking, that should be an easy call.  While Congress itself bears a large part of the responsibility for the economic meltdown due to its deliberate market distortions in housing and lending, the public wants more oversight on Wall Street.  A moderate bill of reasonable belt-tightening could win significant Republican support and provide a low-key legislative victory for the Obama administration.  That’s exactly what the White House needs at the moment — a breath of fresh air and any indication of competence it can trumpet.

Unfortunately, the problem for Durbin and the White House is that passing anything this unpopular in an election year will be a sure ticket to a House minority for the Democrats.  They’re already on the cusp of losing power in the lower chamber now, but passage this year would make the debate in 2010 less urgent.  Putting off cap-and-trade in the Senate for this year would mean that they would have to wait until 2011 to try again, which would necessitate a new effort in the House — likely with a much less sympathetic composition.

That reality will probably force Durbin and the Democrats to take up cap-and-trade towards the end of this year, but there is no good path to passage.  The Democratic caucus in the Senate will crack along both ideological and regional lines, with coal state Senators looking to stop its advance and the destruction of their home-state economies.  That will make the problem worse for Reid and Obama than what they face now on ObamaCare, and Republicans will stand to gain by opposing in unison yet another massive program of government control over private industry, this time in the energy sector.  The costs it will impose on families are even higher and more direct than with ObamaCare.

In short, it’s a political disaster that Durbin and the Senate Democrats would like to forget, but will be forced to debate to the detriment of their careers, thanks to an administration and House leadership that has jumped fully into a radical economic agenda.


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I don’t trust Little Dick Durbin.

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on September 10, 2009 at 2:20 PM

Own it Dems!

Rogue on September 10, 2009 at 2:21 PM

they should just go straight for amnesty. Even though all their constituents hate it, all the DC people love it and are on board. . . both parties.

ThackerAgency on September 10, 2009 at 2:21 PM

“It’s a difficult schedule”

I have an idea for you, take the rest of your term off, with pay.

Turbin’s paycheck is pocket lint compared to the disaster the Barry-Nancy-Harry sandwich would impose on this nation.

NoDonkey on September 10, 2009 at 2:21 PM

This is getting funny. What a bunch of schmucks

ndulik on September 10, 2009 at 2:21 PM

Keep up, liberals – global warming is out, global cooling is back in.

Daggett on September 10, 2009 at 2:22 PM

Dear Durbin,

We don’t want anything Obama and his little communists are offering.

Get Bent

Sincerely,

darwin

darwin on September 10, 2009 at 2:23 PM

They don’t need congress to act to get cap and Trade started.

EPA WILL declare CO2 a pollutant… and then Susten, in his roll as whocko guy in charge of Regulation, will find some way to put Cap and Tax in place.

Expect them to announce on a later Friday Afternoon… right about the time the next international crises hits.

Romeo13 on September 10, 2009 at 2:23 PM

No worries, they’ll just stick it in some other bill and pass it in the middle of the night.

Knucklehead on September 10, 2009 at 2:23 PM

In short, it’s a political disaster that Durbin and the Senate Democrats would like to forget, but will be forced to debate to the detriment of their careers, thanks to an administration and House leadership that has jumped fully into a radical economic agenda.

Runs off to Costco for another ten pound bag of popcorn

rbj on September 10, 2009 at 2:24 PM

I fully support capping the careers of many of the pols, and trading them for someone new.

ICBM on September 10, 2009 at 2:25 PM

They haven’t seen anything yet until they start jacking up our cost of living on some green agenda. I will fight that until the end. They will not be satisfied until we are all living in huts and eating berries. If you want to see something explosive? Try legalizing all the illegal aliens in Texas. That will be the shot heard ’round the world.

TXMomof3 on September 10, 2009 at 2:25 PM

Health Care Reform hasn’t passed yet…

d1carter on September 10, 2009 at 2:26 PM

I don’t trust a word any of these schmucks say. It’s all designed to get your guard down. There’s a reason they want all the attention focused on healthcare reform right now. If it’s not about Cap & Trade, then it’s another czar, Card Check, etc. While the media is busy extolling Obama’s speech and shaming Joe Wilson something else is going down…

texabama on September 10, 2009 at 2:26 PM

Ride the Obama FAIL train.

Fletch54 on September 10, 2009 at 2:26 PM

I say go for it but throw draconian gun control on top, just for fun.

These liberal morons actually believe that the election of a guy who promised to be a centrist means America is ravenous for a far-left agenda. Stupid.

Bishop on September 10, 2009 at 2:26 PM

They need to save whatever they need to get amnesty through next year… along with the many millions of new citizens registered to vote in November

michaelo on September 10, 2009 at 2:27 PM

Anyone know when this douche bag tries to run for re-election?

upinak on September 10, 2009 at 2:27 PM

No worries, they’ll just stick it in some other bill and pass it in the middle of the night.

Knucklehead on September 10, 2009

In fact, why not just attach it to Obamacare? Global warming is driving up health care costs right? Isnt that right?

JonPrichard on September 10, 2009 at 2:27 PM

They don’t need congress to act to get cap and Trade started.

EPA WILL declare CO2 a pollutant… and then Susten, in his roll as whocko guy in charge of Regulation, will find some way to put Cap and Tax in place.

Expect them to announce on a later Friday Afternoon… right about the time the next international crises hits.

Romeo13 on September 10, 2009 at 2:23 PM

BINGO!
They have already confirmed that ‘dust’ is a pollutant. So we in agriculture & in the country will probably be looking at some sort of ‘dust’ tax.
No votes. No nothing-just high-handed bog gov tactics.
And so it will go with cap-&-trade.
Anarchy is coming.

Badger40 on September 10, 2009 at 2:28 PM

These liberal morons actually believe that the election of a guy who promised to be a centrist means America is ravenous for a far-left agenda. Stupid.

Bishop on September 10, 2009 at 2:26 PM

Bishop, WTH are you selling? I just clicked on your name and it took me to Obama merchandise. I am so disappointed in you!

TXMomof3 on September 10, 2009 at 2:29 PM

Did anybody see Dr. Joe Bastardi from Accuweather last night on Bill O’R show. He basically global warming data doesn’t hold up. Greenpeace refused to go on and debate him. That should tell you a lot.

Oil Can on September 10, 2009 at 2:31 PM

Hey Dick: I don’t expect cap and trade, or socialized medicine. I’m forward thinking.

Vashta.Nerada on September 10, 2009 at 2:31 PM

“And the banks – hard to believe in a time when we’re facing a banking crisis that many of the banks created – are still the most powerful lobby on Capitol Hill. And they frankly own the place.” – Illinois Sen. Richard Durbin

Say what you want, he probably knows what he’s talking about.

The Calibur on September 10, 2009 at 2:32 PM

They haven’t seen anything yet until they start jacking up our cost of living on some green agenda. I will fight that until the end. They will not be satisfied until we are all living in huts and eating berries. If you want to see something explosive? Try legalizing all the illegal aliens in Texas. That will be the shot heard ’round the world.

TXMomof3 on September 10, 2009 at 2:25 PM

And I know a certain ranch in South Texas where the first shot will be fired.

TXUS on September 10, 2009 at 2:33 PM

Greenpeace Al Gore refused to go on and debate him. That should tell you a lot.

Oil Can on September 10, 2009 at 2:31 PM

I’m sure that this was another scenario being played out.
Global Warming is oh so out of style!

Badger40 on September 10, 2009 at 2:34 PM

Anyone know when this douche bag tries to run for re-election?

upinak on September 10, 2009 at 2:27 PM

He just re-won his seat in 2008. IL may be ready to throw him out by 2014. We will know if that is possible in 2010 with the governor and senate race in 2010.

WashJeff on September 10, 2009 at 2:34 PM

Maybe I’m stupid, but I don’t understand why they can’t walk and talk at the same time.

They don’t write the bills. They don’t read the bills. What exactly is keeping them so busy that they can’t get any legislation passed/or debated???

bridgetown on September 10, 2009 at 2:34 PM

So glad not to see that Waxman pic so close to lunchtime…

NickelAndDime on September 10, 2009 at 2:35 PM

And I know a certain ranch in South Texas where the first shot will be fired.

TXUS on September 10, 2009 at 2:33 PM

Where are we going? I am so frustrated and scared.

TXMomof3 on September 10, 2009 at 2:35 PM

Oil Can on September 10, 2009 at 2:31 PM

Nope! I turned off BOR in disgust last night after he out-shouted Karl Rove and let Axelrod spin the conversation to bash Rove and the Republicans and then begged the Axelturd for another interview with Barry.

Disgusting.

Knucklehead on September 10, 2009 at 2:35 PM

And I know a certain ranch in South Texas where the first shot will be fired.

TXUS on September 10, 2009 at 2:33 PM

And there’s another ranch in SW ND that will be a close 2nd…

Badger40 on September 10, 2009 at 2:35 PM

You mean Crap-and-Trade

CynicalOptimist on September 10, 2009 at 2:35 PM

I am so worn out by this administration. I have never been so upset for this long with an administration…not even Nixon’s. This is getting to be too much. They need a big time slapdown.

NJ Red on September 10, 2009 at 2:35 PM

Where are we going? I am so frustrated and scared.

TXMomof3 on September 10, 2009 at 2:35 PM

Teach the kids to lock & load. I really am thinking $hit will hit the fan in my lifetime.

Badger40 on September 10, 2009 at 2:36 PM

In short, it’s a political disaster that Durbin and the Senate Democrats would like to forget, but will be forced to debate to the detriment of their careers, thanks to an administration and House leadership that has jumped fully into a radical economic agenda.

Political disaster and Durbin in the same sentence is as commonplace as cheese and crackers or nuts and bolts. Hard to mention one without finding the other.

highhopes on September 10, 2009 at 2:36 PM

You mean Crap-and-Trade

CynicalOptimist on September 10, 2009 at 2:35 PM

Crap & Tax

bridgetown on September 10, 2009 at 2:36 PM

NJ Red on September 10, 2009 at 2:35 PM

You show your age! LOL!
At least Nixon was all that bad.
He did resign rather than tear apart the country even further.

Badger40 on September 10, 2009 at 2:37 PM

At least Nixon wasn’t all that bad.
Badger40 on September 10, 2009 at 2:37 PM

Badger40 on September 10, 2009 at 2:37 PM

Maybe I’m stupid, but I don’t understand why they can’t walk and talk at the same time.

They don’t write the bills. They don’t read the bills. What exactly is keeping them so busy that they can’t get any legislation passed/or debated???

bridgetown on September 10, 2009 at 2:34 PM

Well, it does take a lot of time to negotiate with the Special Interest groups…. all that Bidding for your vote takes time…

Romeo13 on September 10, 2009 at 2:37 PM

I say go for it but throw draconian gun control on top, just for fun.

Bishop on September 10, 2009

Nine million new firearms purchases since the first of this year. Don’t know how many first-time gun buyers are represented in that number but I’d bet it’s a bunch. That’s one industry (along with ammo mfr’s) not suffering through this recession. Even we reloaders are finding shortages of components and powder.

SKYFOX on September 10, 2009 at 2:38 PM

Wonderful Durbin, but you liberal jerks might as well kill all of us immediately with complete and instantaneous fiscal destruction . . . it will save us from a slow, painful extended death.

rplat on September 10, 2009 at 2:38 PM

Where are we going? I am so frustrated and scared.

TXMomof3 on September 10, 2009 at 2:35 PM

To the Liberty Tree. It needs a drink.

Fletch54 on September 10, 2009 at 2:38 PM

Say what you want, he probably knows what he’s talking about.

The Calibur on September 10, 2009 at 2:32 PM

Anyone who blames the banks is ignorant, or lying.

Vashta.Nerada on September 10, 2009 at 2:39 PM

I am so worn out by this administration. I have never been so upset for this long with an administration…not even Nixon’s. This is getting to be too much. They need a big time slapdown.

NJ Red on September 10, 2009 at 2:35 PM

That’s why I couldn’t watch the propaganda last night. I simply am mentally exhausted and physically ill by what is going on in DC. They need a big slapdown and yet a guy is villified for calling out the liar.

highhopes on September 10, 2009 at 2:41 PM

Take as long you need Harry and Dick.

Lou Budvis on September 10, 2009 at 2:42 PM

Where are we going? I am so frustrated and scared.

TXMomof3 on September 10, 2009 at 2:35 PM

We are going to… ultimately win. Period.

We are Americans and we are Texans. And the latter, in particular, makes me a lot less frustrated and scared than if I was living in a lot of other places, for sure.

The revolution has begun…

TXUS on September 10, 2009 at 2:42 PM

I think if cap-and-trade gets passed, that will be the last straw toward secession of Texas and the rest of the red states.

Rebar on September 10, 2009 at 2:44 PM

They don’t write the bills. They don’t read the bills. What exactly is keeping them so busy that they can’t get any legislation passed/or debated???

bridgetown

Don’t you know? They are present day nobles, useless in valor, intellect or cunning. They’re our Last Man.

nyx on September 10, 2009 at 2:44 PM

Why not debate it? Just try to pass it… that’s seems like the modus operandi these days. Write a bill, vote on it, yell about it, then it becomes law. I forgot, LIE about it too. Let’s combine cap and trade with obamacare.–just make it all one big turdball of a bill, just absolutely massive, the hell with the cost–make it a gajillion dollars, or make it google dollars, no one knows nor does congress care anymore. It is all beyond comprehension and they should all be thrown out on their backsides.

ted c on September 10, 2009 at 2:48 PM

Fletch54 on September 10, 2009 at 2:38 PM

it is looking dry….

ted c on September 10, 2009 at 2:49 PM

Forgive the juvenile word-play, but considering the deaf-but-garralous houses of Congress and our Sham-Mao Pitchman-In-Chief, I’d say we’re more likely to get “Slap and Played”.

Doorgunner on September 10, 2009 at 2:51 PM

Rebar on September 10, 2009 at 2:44 PM

My 2 cents. No major legislation will passed during 2010, it’s an election year. Obama Care and Cap and Trade is done/over. Also I think we are in double dip recession, our government’s fiscal policy is pushing us that way, watch the Christmas spending data.

Voters will vote in Republicans (in offices across the country) to balance out Obama and just being PO’ed on the economy.

This Obama revolution is over. His spending decisions in ’09 will take a bad turn in ’10.

Oil Can on September 10, 2009 at 2:52 PM

No problem.

President Toonces can make another agenda saving speech. Just like last night.

Fired Up!

Ready to Go!

SlaveDog on September 10, 2009 at 2:52 PM

So, amnesty is next?

artist on September 10, 2009 at 2:52 PM

Rebar on September 10, 2009 at 2:44 PM

Sorry, I forgot to add. If both these bills get passed, I think you are right.

I have family in Texas (grandmother), I might seek in :)

Oil Can on September 10, 2009 at 2:55 PM

So, amnesty is next?

artist on September 10, 2009 at 2:52 PM

Nice catch….the donk house of cards is wobbly….

unions-no card check

poor-Ogabe Care is wobbly

Sierre Club-no crap’n'trade

Amigos-amnesty?

sven10077 on September 10, 2009 at 2:56 PM

I think if cap-and-trade gets passed, that will be the last straw toward secession of Texas and the rest of the red states.

Rebar on September 10, 2009 at 2:44 PM

Yep, that just might do it, but many of us here have been ready to bolt for about 20 years.

In the meantime, I’m encouraging everyone to save the planet by consuming and enjoying the main source of CO2 — COWS. -_*

TXUS on September 10, 2009 at 2:56 PM

“It’s a difficult schedule” with many members already “anxious” about healthcare reform,

Read as: We’re afraid to flog this through when it might cost even more of us our jobs next election.

mchristian on September 10, 2009 at 2:57 PM

So, amnesty is next?

artist on September 10, 2009 at 2:52 PM

They’ll try and get amnesty passed before Obamacare goes active. That’s how Obama claims there will be no illegals on Obamacare. There won’t be any illegals.

Guardian on September 10, 2009 at 2:57 PM

So, amnesty is next?

artist on September 10, 2009 at 2:52 PM

Gays in the military and sweeping gun restrictions.

Fulfill the trifecta of epic overreach!

John the Libertarian on September 10, 2009 at 2:57 PM

We are going to… ultimately win. Period.

We are Americans and we are Texans. And the latter, in particular, makes me a lot less frustrated and scared than if I was living in a lot of other places, for sure.

The revolution has begun…

TXUS on September 10, 2009 at 2:42 PM

as my Grandpa said as an Ohioan….

“we were here before the United States, and if need be God forbid we’ll be here after.”

sven10077 on September 10, 2009 at 2:57 PM

OT. NASA on fox about to test booster any second

Guardian on September 10, 2009 at 2:59 PM

Cap and Trade.

A fellow poster, whose handle escapes me at the moment, said it best:

CAP in 2010.

TRADE in 2012.

Ain’t nothin’ wrong with that.

TXUS on September 10, 2009 at 3:01 PM

“we were here before the United States, and if need be God forbid we’ll be here after.”

sven10077 on September 10, 2009 at 2:57 PM

Amen, bro.

TXUS on September 10, 2009 at 3:05 PM

Harry Reid’s chief lieutenant, feels no rush to start an argument that will further fracture the party:

Further Fracture? That a laugh, what they are getting very fearful of is a complete wipe out at the midterms. Which I think will happen at this point barring a extreme turn around in the economic conditions and with these clowns in change that isn’t likely to happen.

whbates on September 10, 2009 at 3:05 PM

TXUS on September 10, 2009 at 2:56 PM

I’ll come live on your ranch in south Texas if you don’t mind.

“we were here before the United States, and if need be God forbid we’ll be here after.”

sven10077 on September 10, 2009 at 2:57 PM

I would have loved your grandpa.

TXMomof3 on September 10, 2009 at 3:07 PM

Crap & Charade

GnuBreed on September 10, 2009 at 3:09 PM

TXUS on September 10, 2009 at 2:56 PM
I’ll come live on your ranch in south Texas if you don’t mind.

TXMomof3 on September 10, 2009 at 3:07 PM

Don’t mind at all, Mamacita. How good can you shoot?

TXUS on September 10, 2009 at 3:14 PM

Don’t mind at all, Mamacita. How good can you shoot?

TXUS on September 10, 2009 at 3:14 PM

I was a good shot as a child with a pellet gun. I can be taught.

TXMomof3 on September 10, 2009 at 3:16 PM

I was a good shot as a child with a pellet gun. I can be taught.

TXMomof3 on September 10, 2009 at 3:16 PM

We can fix that in no time, since we got a lot of places with a lot of moving critters around here to practice on.

TXUS on September 10, 2009 at 3:26 PM

We can fix that in no time, since we got a lot of places with a lot of moving critters around here to practice on.

TXUS on September 10, 2009 at 3:26 PM

I might mention that I cannot even step on bugs. Anything fuzzy and cute, I couldn’t shoot. I love steak, I just don’t want to know the cow. To protect my family? I could shoot someone with bad intentions. Will you still take me?

TXMomof3 on September 10, 2009 at 3:31 PM

Climate change is a fact. If you do not believe it, just look at how many people come to Texas, Arizona and Florida every winter.

Johan Klaus on September 10, 2009 at 3:50 PM

I might mention that I cannot even step on bugs. Anything fuzzy and cute, I couldn’t shoot. I love steak, I just don’t want to know the cow. To protect my family? I could shoot someone with bad intentions. Will you still take me?

TXMomof3 on September 10, 2009 at 3:31 PM

First, we don’t shoot any cattle under any circumstances, and generally never name them. Except I recently named a really unruly bull calf and told the hands that he was mine to personally de-huevo this winter; they’ll do all the rest. His name: Obama.

Now, we do have coyotes and feral hogs which are a real pain and need to be shot whenever. And you wouldn’t want them to get hold of your kids, so I guess you wouldn’t mind squeezin’ off a few rounds on them.

Got some deer, too, but I’ll give you a pass there, unless a wild buck starts coming at you — they can be very, very dangerous.

Then, of course, there’s an occasional rattler and other snakes but they stay away from the main hacienda and the casitas.

As to banditos and wet backs, they pretty much leave my spread alone because of the helicopters that patrol the perimeter. Sheriff’s a friend. But, you’ve always gotta be prepared.

So, sure you can still come.

TXUS on September 10, 2009 at 4:01 PM

You have to wonder exactly how people like Pelosi thought this was going to go. I mean, do they know anything about the American people? Do they think this is Europe?

Terrye on September 10, 2009 at 4:11 PM

TXUS on September 10, 2009 at 4:01 PM

We raise APHA and a few AQHA horses. We have lost two foals and it was heatbreaking for me. I get too attached. When I was a kid, my dad used to buy me a bottle calf. You know how that always ended up. Snakes, I could kill in a heart beat. Spiders? I usually hurt myself. I hope you can make it to DC.

TXMomof3 on September 10, 2009 at 4:21 PM

TXMomof3 on September 10, 2009 at 4:21 PM

Horses, thats great. Could always use some help with my lot, mostly workin’ horses but a couple of real nice cutters.

Hoping to go to DC, too. Should be a blast. Depends somewhat on if the runway gets patched and resurfaced by tomorrow night… sometimes it’s hard to get construction help down here that’s worth a damn. Anyway, it’s the pilots’ call, not mine, to make.

TXUS on September 10, 2009 at 4:36 PM

Guess what? I don’t trust these guys.

Cindy Munford on September 10, 2009 at 5:14 PM

A few months ago, talk about secession would bring out the trolls in force.

Now, not a word. Interesting.

Rebar on September 10, 2009 at 6:05 PM