White House to Palin: Your ideas are “scary and risky”; Palin to White House: Quit making things up
posted at 7:22 pm on September 9, 2009 by Allahpundit
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I love the smell of easy traffic in the morning. Team Barry was grumpy over her Journal op-ed last night so they tossed this grenade at her in their daily talking points:
On Gov. Palin’s Attacks
Every non partisan organization that has looked at her claims say they are false. And the ideas in her op-ed are both scary and risky. Eliminating Medicare and giving our seniors vouchers instead is a bad idea that we shouldn’t adopt.
To which Palin, within the last hour, posted this reply/prebuttal of tonight’s speech:
I’m pleased that the White House is finally responding to Republican health care ideas instead of pretending they don’t exist.[1] But in doing so President Obama should follow his own sound advice and avoid making “wild misrepresentations”.[2] Medicare vouchers would give everyone on Medicare the chance to decide for themselves which health plan to use, rather than leave that decision to government bureaucrats. Such proposals are the kind of health care reform that Republicans stand for: market-oriented, patient-centered, and result-driven.
The White House talking points leave the rest of my arguments unanswered. They don’t respond to the idea that all individuals should get the same tax benefits received by those who get coverage through their employers; that we must reform our tort laws; and that we should allow Americans to buy insurance across state lines. The White House also fails to respond to the Nyce/Schieber study indicating that wages will fall if the government expands coverage without reducing health care inflation rates.
One last thing: after President Obama’s speech tonight, listen for which pundits use the words “false”, “scary”, and “risky” in describing the proposals I put forward. That’s how you’ll be able to tell who the White House counted as “allies” worthy of receiving its talking points.
First out of the gate with the scary/risky rhetoric, to no one’s surprise: The DNC. Ace is right that the White House probably thinks making her the face of the opposition will discredit it, a la their “Limbaugh’s the head of the Republican Party” jazz six months ago. And he’s also right that it won’t work in this case because the “death panels” rhetoric tapped into public fears about rationing. Every time they mention her, they dredge that back up and it hurts them; they’re just too deeply in thrall to Palinphobia to see it. If I were a GOP bigwig, I would have finagled her an invite to the speech and seated her in the gallery as a visual reminder — preferably with this article in hand. At the very least, having her star power in the same room with him would create a media circus and steal part of his spotlight, which is the entire reason he’s holding this dronefest. And when he inevitably whines in his speech about Republican fearmongering while looking her way, she’ll be right there to hammer him with the tu quoque for the media’s benefit. Missed opportunity, Michael Steele.
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I think Obama, by staunchly championing Romney’s mandatory insurance boondoggle, has pretty much driven him off the 2012 ticket.
Chris_Balsz on September 9, 2009 at 7:57 PM
I forgot to thank Allah for this- we got two days in a row of Sarah- and without the winking pix. Are you leaving the dark side and coming toward the light AP?
theenforser on September 9, 2009 at 7:57 PM
Mark Ambinder must feel like super chump right now.
Carrying all that water and spinning like a draedel for the Administration.
What a sucker!
victor82 on September 9, 2009 at 7:57 PM
Same here. I give monthly to SarahPAC, and I hope everyone praising her in these threads are doing the same.
David2.0 on September 9, 2009 at 7:57 PM
RIIIIIIIIIIIGHT!
The big story here is that Obama has lost the independents…the people that left McCain, thanks in large part to Sarah Palin, and went to Obama.
Yeah, lets make sure the independents go back to the dems.
Genius. Pure genius.
Do you even know how to read polls?? The independents STILL dont like here…only the base…the less, uh, brilliant part of the base if you will.
In The Flesh on September 9, 2009 at 7:58 PM
IMO she is playing it perfectly. She is doing more damage from the sidelines than all the limp d*** GOP men put together. Besides the power brokers in the party aren’t quite ready to embrace her.
HoustonRight on September 9, 2009 at 7:58 PM
AP, i think you should get in touch with mr. steele and offer him your services.
homesickamerican on September 9, 2009 at 7:59 PM
The Republican Hierarchy is just as afraid of Sarah as Pinnochios’ party remember what she did in Alaska?
She tore the corrupt Republican house down before she took after the dims. Establishment politicians know she is the anti D.C. the end to their livin large off the hard workin citizens!
They would prefer to run Mccain, Graham, or another inside the beltway player than one who would wreck their fun.
dhunter on September 9, 2009 at 7:59 PM
ITF, we do not want a majority that rejects conservative ideals, whatever letter of the alphabet it wears. We’ve had about 20 years of that.
Chris_Balsz on September 9, 2009 at 8:00 PM
You got it wrong. It’s Michael “missed opportunity” Steele.
rrpjr on September 9, 2009 at 8:00 PM
I wish you would clue as in on the original song when you do that — some times its obscure, and it isn’t really interesting if we can’t sing along.
Count to 10 on September 9, 2009 at 8:00 PM
Does anybody know if Sarah Palin will be in DC on 09/12 ??
That would be delicious.
bridgetown on September 9, 2009 at 8:00 PM
Good point. She’s in a better position like this. I am now convinced that her resigation was an act of genius.
theenforser on September 9, 2009 at 8:01 PM
Sarah doesn’t have to be there or give the rebuttal, remember she isn’t the typical politician. She will watch it, study it, and when she decides she will trash it.
fourdeucer on September 9, 2009 at 7:53 PM
about midnight eastern time facebook will see a major spike in traffic
unseen on September 9, 2009 at 8:01 PM
You are delusional. Romney’s plan was 1) never intended as a national plan, he believes in state plans, like all good conservatives and 2) he had no public option, and it worked until the dems came in and drew up the costs.
I live in New Hampshire so I am not ignorant about this. Romney would never be part of a national health takeover like this one.
In The Flesh on September 9, 2009 at 8:01 PM
the people that left McCain, thanks in large part to Sarah Palin, and went to Obama.
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NOT!!!
shomegirl on September 9, 2009 at 8:01 PM
I just love this woman! She has the most gentle and pleasing way of kicking some ass!
joedoe on September 9, 2009 at 8:02 PM
Sarah Palin can see Obama’s communism from her house. She is also destroying him from her front porch.
Not laughing NOW are you Tina Fey?
portlandon on September 9, 2009 at 8:02 PM
Sarah levels the field for our weak kneed GOP to play on.
fourdeucer on September 9, 2009 at 8:02 PM
Mr. Pundit, your idea was truly awesome, it’s too bad that all of this happened to late in the day to make it happen. I am enjoying the imagined visual.
Cindy Munford on September 9, 2009 at 8:02 PM
+++
the_nile on September 9, 2009 at 8:03 PM
I did, had to save for the PCS move my wife had to make….but we will.
I want the moderates asking Sarah for money not Steele.
sven10077 on September 9, 2009 at 8:03 PM
Team Obama just continually underestimates Sarah – they haven’t a clue that she’s got Trust behind her and The One is NOT trusted by America.
Cinday Blackburn on September 9, 2009 at 8:03 PM
The big story here is that Obama has lost the independents…the people that left McCain, thanks in large part to Sarah Palin, and went to Obama.
Yeah, lets make sure the independents go back to the dems.
Genius. Pure genius.
Do you even know how to read polls?? The independents STILL dont like here…only the base…the less, uh, brilliant part of the base if you will.
In The Flesh on September 9, 2009 at 7:58 PM
idiot. the independents left McCain because he suspended his campaign. got trashed in all three debates. Palin was what brought them to look at MCain in the first place. after McCain showed them they were right not to support him they left again.
Read the polls. Before the Palin big Mccain was down about where he lost. after Palin pick Mcain was up 7 pts. after wall street, tarp McCain was again back to the before Palin numbers.
If not for Palin MCain would have lost with carter Numbers
unseen on September 9, 2009 at 8:04 PM
Note that any alternative idea to a Dem plan is called an ‘attack’.
Same old, same old. No wonder they keep losing the support of moderates and independents.
Liam on September 9, 2009 at 8:05 PM
No plenty did….
I have an in-law that said something to the effect of, “well yeah I am a Republican but I just couldn’t stand the thought of someone as inexperienced as Sarah Palin being near the office.”
I held my tongue as her father was dying….
I did say in idle conversation as she was bitching up a storm about BarryCare covering illegals….
“boy we sure dodged a bullet with that Sarah Palin”….
Barry is losing those voters fast.
sven10077 on September 9, 2009 at 8:05 PM
every tv in my house is off right now. i just can’t stand to listen to his lies and sibilant “SSSSSS’s”.
only thing worse than that is seeing nancy and nimrod smile like they just won the lottery.
sandlin71 on September 9, 2009 at 8:05 PM
You sound like Joe Biden in the V.P. debate.
Just throw anything out there as if it were fact.
Hilarious.
David2.0 on September 9, 2009 at 8:06 PM
In response to a post about “seating Sarah in the Gallery…”
I agree: Look at the strategy she’s employing as a function of the time left before both the 2010 midterms, and 2012. She has been more like a huntress, carefully positioning herself for an effective stalk. Put another way:
Be extremely subtle, even to the point of formlessness. Be extremely mysterious, even to the point of soundlessness. Thereby you can be the director of the opponent’s fate.
-Sun Tzu
massrighty on September 9, 2009 at 8:07 PM
The ones the White House is saying are “scary and risky”.
Itchee Dryback on September 9, 2009 at 8:07 PM
Palin is being smart by limiting her appearances until 2010. The supply of every other politician (Mitt, Huck and even Obama) exceeds the demand. With Sarah, the demand far exceeds the supply. She needs to keep it that way.
bw222 on September 9, 2009 at 8:07 PM
Another Romney troll. No wonder.
promachus on September 9, 2009 at 8:08 PM
Therein is the problem. We should have NO public plan for this reason. The wrong party takes power and instantly screws everything up. At least in the free market, there are some semblences of checks and balances.
stenwin77 on September 9, 2009 at 8:08 PM
A Concern Troll. How nice.
Patrick S on September 9, 2009 at 8:09 PM
Hello? What the hell do you think the WH was responding to? She wrote an article for the WSJ yesterday, you moron.
If you got your news from credible sources instead of Jon Stewart and SNL, you might have a clue!
atheling on September 9, 2009 at 8:09 PM
Steam rising from a freshly-excreted turd?
jay12 on September 9, 2009 at 8:09 PM
By the way, the blonde on “Married with Children” (TV land) is more educational than BO tonight. That’s where I wil be.
stenwin77 on September 9, 2009 at 8:09 PM
On Gov. Palin’s Attacks
Every non partisan organization that has looked at her claims say they are false. And the ideas in her op-ed are both scary and risky. Eliminating Medicare and giving our seniors vouchers instead is a bad idea that we shouldn’t adopt.
If the White House calls them her ideas, who are you to argue?
Cindy Munford on September 9, 2009 at 8:10 PM
Concern troll
onlineanalyst on September 9, 2009 at 8:10 PM
Would we (the less brilliant) be the ones that can’t punctuate? or frame a coherent sentence?
Oops – that looks like your base, not ours.
massrighty on September 9, 2009 at 8:10 PM
Ms Palin is a knock-down, take-no-prisoners type of fighter. She will respond to Obama’s speech, and take out a few more chunks.
We need more like Ms Palin!
csThor on September 9, 2009 at 8:10 PM
The GOP has yet to grow a pair.
Blake on September 9, 2009 at 8:10 PM
The Wall Street Journal can.
massrighty on September 9, 2009 at 8:11 PM
Later
fourdeucer on September 9, 2009 at 8:12 PM
What has been missed by many people is that Sarah’s tacit support for Glenn Beck’s expose on Van Jones on August 26th may have also caused deep anger and resentment to have mounted in the Obama administration.
technopeasant on September 9, 2009 at 8:13 PM
as can Gibbs and Axelturfer….
that you lapdogs to the marxists can’t be bothered to read the GOP proposals doesn’t mean they are not there….
just because Axelturf says “the sky is red and taupe” does not mean the sky is scarlet and bad green….it means you are being lied to.
sven10077 on September 9, 2009 at 8:13 PM
it was a jink by her to get inside Barry’s OODA loop….
she is controlling Barry not the other way around.
sven10077 on September 9, 2009 at 8:14 PM
I FREAKIN LOVE THIS WOMAN! Excellent commentary Allah.
royzer on September 9, 2009 at 8:14 PM
That explains a lot.
bw222 on September 9, 2009 at 8:15 PM
Where are all the purported conservative Palinbashers?
atheling on September 9, 2009 at 8:15 PM
Think she’ll another commentary post speech?
Blake on September 9, 2009 at 8:16 PM
Got that right Blake, seems like parakeet testes. For Gods sake, go for the jugular sometimes. To hell with the “High Ground”. To catch rats, you gotta get in the sewer. Play the same F-F game that they play.
Sam_I_Am on September 9, 2009 at 8:17 PM
she’ll do another commentary…
When even our resident rino is more aggressive, the gop definitely has a problem.
Blake on September 9, 2009 at 8:19 PM
can I ask how the heck is tort reform and being able to buy insurance across state lines risky?
deidre on September 9, 2009 at 8:19 PM
Could she be planning to start a third party? What does she have to lose? If so then stepping out of Alaska governor was a brilliant move. And the timing seems right. She’s awesome enough to make a go of it. She gets 20 percent (indies and Rs) and it could be real. Interesting. Might make me join a party again. For a while.
curved space on September 9, 2009 at 8:20 PM
I notice that nobody has yet told me what proposals she has put forward. Instead, you seem to direct me to the WSJ article…from which I quoted.
Aint too bright, are we?
The fact you cant answer my question….answers my question.
Thank you.
In The Flesh on September 9, 2009 at 8:21 PM
She has nothing to lose. But the American people will be stuck with 4 more years of Obama….a frightful thought.
In The Flesh on September 9, 2009 at 8:22 PM
I hear that 3 different Republican Congressmen will show up tonight with their respective plans in tow. They say they will show Obama their plans since he keeps saying they don’t have any.
Terrye on September 9, 2009 at 8:23 PM
So, Obama is just going to give us antedotes (sp)????
Empty words.
It shant work.
In The Flesh on September 9, 2009 at 8:23 PM
It looks like the WH is starting to believe… Sarah’s opinion and comments are MEGA relevant.
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And they all said she was finished when she walked away from the Governors job… Pshaw.
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Hell… She’s just getting her sights adjusted.
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RalphyBoy on September 9, 2009 at 8:23 PM
Originally not a Palin fan, but I’m hooked. I can’t remember any politician as gutsy as this woman in the Republican Party. She is a fighter, and she has a big megaphone! Proud to call myself Republican again.
csThor on September 9, 2009 at 8:24 PM
Interesting. Everyone always says that we’re a 2 party country and a third can’t win- what happened to the decade where we learned to “think outside of the box” and “change our paradigms?”
I’m pretty much done with the GOP, and like others here I only donate to SarahPAC. If there was ever a time in history to form a strong 3rd party, this is it people. So many Americans are disgusted with the politicans in both parties. I could see a third party evolving and winning elections.
theenforser on September 9, 2009 at 8:24 PM
In the Flesh:
Sarah Palin is a Republican. I don’t think she will turn on the party that way. After all, she was the VP on the last ticket running for the White House. Despite the complaints from some folks in punditry etc, I have never gotten the impression that Republican rank and file and even most Republican office holders do not like and respect her.
I doubt very much if she wants to be the next Ross Perot.
Terrye on September 9, 2009 at 8:25 PM
In The Flesh on September 9, 2009 at 8:21 PM
Is Mitt hiding in your basement?
bw222 on September 9, 2009 at 8:25 PM
theenforser:
A third party is political suicide.
Terrye on September 9, 2009 at 8:26 PM
FIFY
atheling on September 9, 2009 at 8:26 PM
I hope you are right, my friend.
If she is anything like some of the posters on this site and others, she is out for herself. But, I hope you are right.
In The Flesh on September 9, 2009 at 8:27 PM
Wow. That was weak.
But, I dont blame you. Obama is speaking…so, stupidity is in the air. :)
In The Flesh on September 9, 2009 at 8:28 PM
In The Flesh=Roger Waters=Pink Floyd=whatever other stupid unoriginal names this character has come up with.
Serial troll bot…
daesleeper on September 9, 2009 at 8:28 PM
How can any woman not repect and luv this woman.
She was raised like a man but woman through and through.
She is HE-Woman, Woman-He.
I AM WOMAN AND HEAR ME ROAR.
I AM WOMAN AND HEAR ME ROAR.
Make no mistake
I am woman and hear me roar.
oldyeller on September 9, 2009 at 8:28 PM
If we “ain’t too bright”, you’re dumber than hammered sh!t, Spanky.
Patrick S on September 9, 2009 at 8:28 PM
What??!?!?!?!
I am lost.
In The Flesh on September 9, 2009 at 8:29 PM
You know, you’re an arrogant POS.
You come here and insult the intelligence of everyone here while you can’t spell, can’t compose a proper sentence, and fail to comprehend an article published in a newspaper.
Go pound sand, you moron.
atheling on September 9, 2009 at 8:29 PM
SSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!
Obama is lying.
In The Flesh on September 9, 2009 at 8:30 PM
This is not fair. The GOP has not gone along with anything Obama wanted. They have come up with plans of their own. The idea that somehow they were lacking in guts because they did not get Palin to come to some snooze fest Democratic freak show is just ridiculous. How do you know she even wanted to be there?
The truth is the Republicans are doing a lot better than I thought they would and I would rather give them some positive reinforcement than partake in the usual grumbling.
Terrye on September 9, 2009 at 8:30 PM
“Don’t Fear the ‘Cuda” ……..
I have a fever and the only prescription is more cowbell.
Give me more cowbell Sarah!!!!!!!! LOVE IT!
Rndguy on September 9, 2009 at 8:30 PM
Well, truth be told, she was finished — as in finished with the work she had set out to do when she ran. The rest of her term would have been just a bonus, and she wasn’t greedy.
Count to 10 on September 9, 2009 at 8:31 PM
That’s for damned sure.
atheling on September 9, 2009 at 8:31 PM
wow, I mustve touched a nerve.
Name calling. tsk tsk.
Name calling means nothing when you are speaking when the courage of being hidden in the internet.
You have no argument, obviously.
Spell check this for me too. Thanks!!
In The Flesh on September 9, 2009 at 8:32 PM
In The Flesh on September 9, 2009 at 8:21 PM
She Put the Proposals forward,(That is what you do when you debate). she did not create the proposals nor did she stake a claim to that affect.
Amadeus on September 9, 2009 at 8:33 PM
word
In The Flesh on September 9, 2009 at 8:33 PM
Don’t flatter yourself, dimwit. But you’re such an easy target and I felt like plinking.
atheling on September 9, 2009 at 8:33 PM
In the Flesh:
I think Sarah Palin is a natural when it comes to politics. However, I do think there are people who will never like her or warm to her. But she speaks for a lot of people and I think she takes that responsibility seriously.
Terrye on September 9, 2009 at 8:34 PM
But, he is from New Englamd, so he must be smarter than us stupid rubes who get excited because (for the first time in 20 years) we see a true conservative who is willing to fight for her country.
Do you have an Ivy League school in your state? I don’t.
bw222 on September 9, 2009 at 8:34 PM
word? I am sorry, I fail to understand the meaning of that. I think people like Mike Pence are doing a pretty damn good job and I would not say he is needs to grow anything.
Terrye on September 9, 2009 at 8:35 PM
Obama just called young people “irresponsible” for not having health insurance. What gives him the right to call any 25 year old man or woman “irresponsible”? Oh, I forgot he is the Messiah, isn’t he?
technopeasant on September 9, 2009 at 8:36 PM
AP for RNC chair!
aikidoka on September 9, 2009 at 8:37 PM
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Very true… Works out kinda like having someone of lesser talent and training close after a rather difficult surgery… Like the heart transplant she performed in the Alaska government.
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And now she’s working on a new brain, heart and soul for DC… Not a minute too soon either.
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RalphyBoy on September 9, 2009 at 8:38 PM
I think she is a charismatic natural…and a great speaker. A very likeable person.
I think an example of why she doesnt work for most people is demonstrated by how she quit her first and only term as governor with the most convuluted, pathetic, absurd reasoning in the history of the world (slight exaggeration).
She said she was quitting to avoid politics as usual and that politicians with only a short time left in their term are worthless. Thankfully, George Washington and Ronald Reagan and other heroes didnt see it that way.
In The Flesh on September 9, 2009 at 8:40 PM
There he went, just called Palin’s “death panels” a cynical, irresponsible lie. She got in the speech.
Also, denies that the plan covers illegal immigrants.
Brian1972 on September 9, 2009 at 8:41 PM
You really shouldn’t talk about things you know nothing about.
It makes you look even stupider. If that’s possible.
atheling on September 9, 2009 at 8:41 PM
Yep. Obsessive Mittbot.
ddrintn on September 9, 2009 at 8:42 PM
Nowhere near as absurd as RomneyCare-as-conservatism, or “I was pro-choice until it became cooler to be pro-life”.
ddrintn on September 9, 2009 at 8:43 PM
Again, may I point out that the Obama White House is referring to Gov. Palin’s WSJ article as risky positions and ideas. If you don’t think the ideas are hers then your argument is with the WH, not the people on this thread.
Cindy Munford on September 9, 2009 at 8:44 PM
You are ignoring all the unique circumstances of that situation, I am sure intentionally.
If I were to try and inform you of those circumstances, you would dismiss it all out of hand, so I won’t bother.
Brian1972 on September 9, 2009 at 8:44 PM
Wise move.
ddrintn on September 9, 2009 at 8:45 PM
I am picking up deep disturbances in the force.
Jedi beginning to rise up against evil emporer it appears.
Ojugears is scared to death of Sarah Palin. People are starting to wake up and realize what a crock of crud the lamestream media fed them. People like Rush, Hannity, Beck and Boortz would probably not have the leadership instincts. however, a certain alaskan might.
bullseye on September 9, 2009 at 8:46 PM
I wonder if she has his balls mounted on the wall next to her moose’s head?
NoLeftTurn on September 9, 2009 at 8:47 PM
Funny how these Communists insist on telling the American people that we’re in the Midst of the Black Plague with unburied bodies lying around, and the constant pall of smoke in our nostrils for those lucky enough to be immolated because we’re not paying even more through the nose so Uncle Sam can do their nationwide HMO thing.
Wonder what the next ‘crisis’ that really isn’t a crisis going to be?
Dr. ZhivBlago on September 9, 2009 at 8:49 PM
No. Learn to read and comprehend:
Now tell us what Mitt has had to say on the subject.
ddrintn on September 9, 2009 at 8:50 PM
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