Friedman: You know what’s kind of cool? Dictatorship!

posted at 3:36 pm on September 9, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

One normally expects to see paeans to one-party rule and dictatorships in fringe publications sponsored by International ANSWER or World Can’t Wait.  Usually, the New York Times offers those sentiments in more subtle terms than it does in today’s Thomas Friedman column.  Friedman extols the Chinese form of government while deriding the fact that political opposition keeps Obama from imposing the policies Friedman likes:

Watching both the health care and climate/energy debates in Congress, it is hard not to draw the following conclusion: There is only one thing worse than one-party autocracy, and that is one-party democracy, which is what we have in America today.

One-party autocracy certainly has its drawbacks. But when it is led by a reasonably enlightened group of people, as China is today, it can also have great advantages. That one party can just impose the politically difficult but critically important policies needed to move a society forward in the 21st century. It is not an accident that China is committed to overtaking us in electric cars, solar power, energy efficiency, batteries, nuclear power and wind power. China’s leaders understand that in a world of exploding populations and rising emerging-market middle classes, demand for clean power and energy efficiency is going to soar. Beijing wants to make sure that it owns that industry and is ordering the policies to do that, including boosting gasoline prices, from the top down.

Our one-party democracy is worse. The fact is, on both the energy/climate legislation and health care legislation, only the Democrats are really playing. With a few notable exceptions, the Republican Party is standing, arms folded and saying “no.” Many of them just want President Obama to fail. Such a waste. Mr. Obama is not a socialist; he’s a centrist. But if he’s forced to depend entirely on his own party to pass legislation, he will be whipsawed by its different factions.

Oh, those enlightened Chinese government officials!  When they’re not executing people to harvest their organs, and when they’re not forcing women to have abortions to satisfy their one-child policy, and when they’re not tossing people in prison for political dissent, they have a great energy policy … even though they reject Kyoto and any attempt to hamstring themselves on economically-suicidal cap-and-trade policies.

Actually, considering Friedman’s column, perhaps rounding up the opposition is a net plus for the Chinese in his eyes.

Even putting aside Friedman’s longing for fascism (as long as it supports his policies), Friedman’s entire premise is suspect.  We haven’t enacted government-run health care precisely because we’re not a “one-party democracy.”  Constituents have made their opposition plain to it across the nation, and Democrats understand that Republicans will replace many of their colleagues if they support ObamaCare.  Obama’s approval numbers have dropped precipitously as well, because people dissent from the orthodoxy of the Democratic elites.   That’s what has Friedman pining for Beijing.

Saying “no” to very bad ideas is a perfectly legitimate response, especially when the policies impose government control over private industry to the extent Barack Obama and his radical Congress desire.  The opposition has no responsibility to engage on horrible ideas, although contra Friedman, the Republicans have already offered an alternative to ObamaCare, which Henry Waxman refuses to consider.  Saying “no” to rapid expansion of government power is the rational response to radical policies.

What’s next for the New York Times?  A tribute to Benito Mussolini and running the trains on time as a fair exchange for personal and political liberty?  (via The Corner, which has been savaging Friedman all day)


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Bring it. Bring it all. Pile it high on the wagon and just push it through the gates. Come on! Do it! Do it now!

Limerick on September 9, 2009 at 4:18 PM

Better yet, go buy a Hummer H3 or a Chevy Suburban. That’s the real evil in Friedman’s world.

rockmom on September 9, 2009 at 4:11 PM

Yeah about that environmentalism of his I’m glad he’s setting an example for us peons, check out his house. I will not be lectured on environmentalism from the likes of him or any leftist. Buy the gun, the way things are going we’re going to need them.

elduende on September 9, 2009 at 4:18 PM

The desperation of the left is showing. You can almost hear Friedman’s sorrow at the existence of the US Constitution with its inconvenient ideas like freedom of speech and freedom of assembly. If not for the US Constitution then Obama could simply take our money and force us into inferior Obamacare.As for Friedman’s comments about Republicans. Who’s he kidding? Republicans are only needed for political cover so the Dems aren’t left exposed when Obamacare goes south in the coming years.The big problem for the Dems with the stimulus was a lack of Republican co-conspirators and an inability to hide behind George Bush.Should Obamacare pass against the will of the people then the GOP can run on the promise to repeal it next year.

Hera on September 9, 2009 at 4:18 PM

This is nothing new for Friedman, he’s been pitching the “we need a dictator to cram ecogoodness down their throats” nonsense for a while.

He drank the climate-change Kool-Aid and, as the evidence turns against him, he’s doubling down.

I agree with him, though – the Chinese leadership is very pragmatic. Too much so to ever truly believe – whatever they may tell the outside world – any of the nonsense he’d peddling.

JEM on September 9, 2009 at 4:19 PM

I just received a letter with an offer for a free train ride to a special camp in Arizona. Should I go?

faraway on September 9, 2009 at 4:11 PM

You either go voluntarily or we drag you.

DasObamaReich on September 9, 2009 at 4:20 PM

To fully understand where Tom is coming from in this piece you have to go back to Sunday’s Meet the Press, where he and the other Tom were complaining about the lack of oversight (i.e. – control) the big media outlets and politicians have over the new media on the internet and talk radio.

So while people might say Friedman ignores the seedier aspects of China, such as things like Tiananmen Square, Tom doesn’t see that as a major flaw in the system — he just thinks you have to target the proper people (like new media on the internet and talk radio) to silence that type of dissent, so the smart people can get on with telling the rest of the nation what to do and not get sidetracked by things like Van Jones or concerns about government control of health care.

jon1979 on September 9, 2009 at 4:21 PM

Mr. Obama is not a socialist; he’s a centrist.

Oh my.

I am stunned sometimes. Not often. But that is outrageous.

faraway on September 9, 2009 at 4:21 PM

Just goes to what I’ve been saying for a while now – Liberals actually want to live in a third-world dictatorship complete with leader-worship. The problem is, though, is that they don’t want to go there – they want to put it into power here.

Really… the only surprise with this article is that it’s as blatent as it is. This has been their goal for a long time – to “take America down a peg or two” and install a permanent cult-of-personality government.

crazy_legs on September 9, 2009 at 4:21 PM

One-party autocracy certainly has its drawbacks. But when it is led by a reasonably enlightened group of people, as the French Revolution — during “The Enlightenment” — was, it can also have great advantages.

Tom “Doofus” Friedman

Does anyone have a decent, working guillotine they can bring? It’s clearly time to enlighten some of the neanderthals in New York, and all I have is three sharp pitchforks and a few torches.

Jaibones on September 9, 2009 at 4:22 PM

Offspring of super-rich family pines for Communist rule.

Gee, that’s original.

PaddyJ on September 9, 2009 at 4:23 PM

Mr. Obama is not a socialist; he’s a centrist

Wrong again. He’s a FASCIST and a socialist and fits into many other nasty categories too, depending on the subject at hand.

This guy is clearly speaking flatulently through a flabby anal orifice and is stinking up the place.

Flush the toilet already.

Spiritk9 on September 9, 2009 at 4:23 PM

You either go voluntarily or we drag you.

DasObamaReich on September 9, 2009 at 4:20 PM

Thank God the desert is big and a good abrasive biome….that and a little liquid potash and your problems are solved.

sven10077 on September 9, 2009 at 4:23 PM

It’s the Van Jones Withdrawal Syndrome.

They can’t handle the loss of a shiny shieldbearer for their socialistic-fascistic Utopian wetdreams.

Seig Friedman!

Save us, O’ Dear Leader Obama!

Silence the upstart lumpen proletariat!

Barry Uber Alles!

profitsbeard on September 9, 2009 at 4:24 PM

Dictatorship fosters oppression, dictatorship fosters servitude, disctatorship fosters cruelty; even more abominable is the fact that it fosters idiocy.

Tav on September 9, 2009 at 4:24 PM

Just goes to what I’ve been saying for a while now – Liberals actually want to live in a third-world dictatorship complete with leader-worship. The problem is, though, is that they don’t want to go there – they want to put it into power here.

Really… the only surprise with this article is that it’s as blatent as it is. This has been their goal for a long time – to “take America down a peg or two” and install a permanent cult-of-personality government.

crazy_legs on September 9, 2009 at 4:21 PM

we have three options….

1) leave ourselves and make a new shining city on a hill….

I’d say Brazil or Oz

2) fight them tooth and nail

3) give up.

sven10077 on September 9, 2009 at 4:25 PM

Friedman’s an idiot; no doubt about it. However, this isn’t a longing for China (or rather his limited understanding of today’s China). It’s a musing on how autocracies can get things done in a way democracies can’t. Didn’t Bush once joke that it would be a lot easier if he were a dictator? Friedman probably thinks it’s a bit like that. To him, it’s just a launching pad for talking about how Republicans say “no” for “no”‘s sake (a Democratic talking point everyone he knows likely believes) and thus Democrats require a one-party consensus for any bill they pass, since the bills “must” be purely partisan (contrary to candidate Obama’s promises).

But of course it’s more than that. It’s a bit like the people who went to Stalin’s USSR or Kim’s North Korea, then came back and said how wonderful they were. In some senses they were, but you don’t see the full story as a privileged Westerner looking at a few selected parts of the country over years (rather than decades). Granted, Chinese society is orders of magnitude more transparent than Soviet society was, but there’s still the problem of “the bubble,” and Friedman is happily and obliviously in it. Given the right bubble and outlook — and a willingness to abandon basic human principles and loyalties — China looks pretty good right now.

calbear on September 9, 2009 at 4:26 PM

When Republicans take control of the House next year, maybe Tommy Boy will move to China

meanwhile,

I LOVE THE SMELL OF LEFTOID MOONBAT HYPOCRISY IN THE MORNING!!

It smells like…….victory

Janos Hunyadi on September 9, 2009 at 4:26 PM

Van Jones Withdrawal Syndrome.

profitsbeard on September 9, 2009 at 4:24 PM

lol

faraway on September 9, 2009 at 4:26 PM

Mr. Obama is not a socialist; he’s a self-centrist

FIFY

Limerick on September 9, 2009 at 4:27 PM

CNBC had a guest on this morning who is very clearly questioning the economic juggernaut that China claims to be. He didn’t come right out and say it, but he strongly implied that their public economic numbers are cooked.

I don’t know how long that can last, but at some point, if it is true, then there will be a significant reckoning in the international markets and financial worlds. That would be pretty bad news for everyone, unfortunately. But the look on Friedman’s face as he tries to explain what he really meant would almost make it all worth it.

nukemhill on September 9, 2009 at 4:28 PM

This along with his moronic lament over Van Jones on Sunday in which he declares the Internet needs more top-down filtering makes for an everlasting doubleheader of disgrace for Friedman. If this is the what the Left pukes up as a moderate voice, we have a lot to worry about.

“Obama is a centrist”? Does that make Evan Bayh a raving right-winger? This is more of the magical thinking that Michael Barone documents so well.

Western_Civ on September 9, 2009 at 4:28 PM

It’s a low rent l;iberal bozo writer on a sinking ship newspaper, lying to an ever awakening America, who will find a fool like him humorous in a pathetic sort of way.

Jeff from WI on September 9, 2009 at 4:28 PM

When your political spectrum runs from communist to socialist, it’s easy to make Barry look like a centrist.

MarkTheGreat on September 9, 2009 at 4:28 PM

Really… the only surprise with this article is that it’s as blatent as it is. This has been their goal for a long time – to “take America down a peg or two” and install a permanent cult-of-personality government.

crazy_legs on September 9, 2009 at 4:21 PM

Then what? Liberals/Progressives want to “fundamentally change the country” but they fail to see that the ‘change’ they wish for today, is the same ‘change’ that will bite them in the a$$ tomorrow. See Cuba, Honduras, Iran, etc.

TN Mom on September 9, 2009 at 4:28 PM

Wrong again. He’s a FASCIST and a socialist and fits into many other nasty categories too, depending on the subject at hand.

Spiritk9 on September 9, 2009 at 4:23 PM

If it sounds like Karl Marx, acts like Benito Mussolini and stumbles like Bozo the Clown, it’s probably Barack Obama!!!

MB4 on September 9, 2009 at 4:28 PM

Mr. Obama is not a socialist; he’s a centrist

Wrong again. He’s a FASCIST and a socialist and fits into many other nasty categories too, depending on the subject at hand.
Spiritk9 on September 9, 2009 at 4:23 PM

The best word to use is Statist.

And if Obama is a centrist; and not a Statist, we’re in deep do-do.

Fake8 on September 9, 2009 at 4:29 PM

This makes me feel good that my bullshit detectors are working. Someone gave me ‘The World is Flat’ to read last summer and I made it through about 6 pages before giving it back. Psuedo-scientific crap.

SittingDeadRed on September 9, 2009 at 4:29 PM

calbear on September 9, 2009 at 4:26 PM

Bush had a sharp sense of irony–unnoticed by the Brain-Dead Media, who had created their own false image of his as dummy

Comparing what Bush joked about once to what Friedman has been and believed for all of his adult life is…..invalid

Janos Hunyadi on September 9, 2009 at 4:29 PM

Both the monarchy and democracy concepts are seriously flawed.

I think the biggest issue is that the states were made to be so tightly united and are not allowed to secede, so that freedom is always defeated in favor of centralism. If Texans were able to vote to leave, the federal government would have less leverage to go crazy. The states would keep the Feds in check in this way, which they can’t do now.

The Dean on September 9, 2009 at 4:30 PM

There are a lot of people who are going to be very tired of the tyranny of the majority when they vote the public purse opened for thier benefit .

borntoraisehogs on September 9, 2009 at 4:30 PM

One-party autocracy certainly has its drawbacks. But when it is led by a reasonably enlightened group of people, as China is today, it can also have great advantages. That one party can just impose the politically difficult but critically important policies needed to move a society forward in the 21st century.

Thomas Friedman with my emphasis in bold.
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Isn’t it amusing? Tomy Friedman’s Democrats control both the Executive and Congress. POTUS is a far Left radical and so is the Speaker of the House. The Senate Majority leader is pretty far left too. They can pass any bill they wish to. They’ve got a filibuster proof majority in the Senate and a generous majority in the House. MSM are all but devoted lap dogs, and this isn’t good enough for Tommy Friedman! He wants more! He wants a one party Fascist state! How telling this is! Elite media personages like Friedman are not Liberals. They are Neo-Fascists and totalitarian Marxists. They are as bad as I have long feared.
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Yet there is another unexpected rub. Apparently in Friedman’s view, China is currently lead by a reasonably enlightened group of people, unlike the Democrat dominated US Government.

Mike OMalley on September 9, 2009 at 4:31 PM

These mainstream progressive Fascists are feeling mighty empowered to speak the truth about their intentions instead of pretending to be freedom-loving liberals (in the classical sense). They’re going to need psychiatric care in 2010 when they get trounced on Election Day.

Buy Danish on September 9, 2009 at 4:31 PM

Mr. Obama is not a socialist; he’s an occultist

Jeff from WI on September 9, 2009 at 4:31 PM

The way I see it,
Friedman is only upping the invitation to
this Saturday’s bash in Washington, DC.

See ya at Freedom Plaza at 11am, folks.

Lockstein13 on September 9, 2009 at 4:31 PM

So….
America bad.
Commies good.

(Hmmmm. Isn`t this becoming the theme of the Obama administration?)

albill on September 9, 2009 at 4:32 PM

Mr. Obama is not a socialist; he’s a centrist

Then what are the Blue Dogs? And why is Obama having trouble with them?

faraway on September 9, 2009 at 4:33 PM

But if he’s forced to depend entirely on his own party to pass legislation, he will be whipsawed by its different factions.

Now that is worth watching. Time to get some popcorn….

rukiddingme on September 9, 2009 at 4:33 PM

After drinking a potion of his own, Saul Alinsky’s, Jeremiah Wright’s and Tomas Friedman’s creation, Barry is transformed into the cruel, remorseless, evil Herr Hussein, representing the hidden side of Obama’s dual nature brought to the fore. Barry has many friends and has a pleasing personality, but as Herr Hussein he becomes more and more dictatorial, encourages violence and becomes ever more fascist like as time goes by as Herr Hussein grows in dominance. After taking this potion repetitively, he no longer needs to rely upon it to unleash his inner fascist demons.

Sigmund on September 9, 2009 at 4:34 PM

Ya gotta love turds like Friedman. How do you think he’d feel if the “dictator” decided it was time for Friedman’s “end of life counseling?”

Spote the Roman on September 9, 2009 at 4:36 PM

It is not an accident that China is committed to overtaking us in electric cars, solar power, energy efficiency, batteries, nuclear power and wind power.

Umm, they’re also committed to overtaking us in military power and political power. They’re using capitalism to catch up, while we’re using socialism to slow down.

hawksruleva on September 9, 2009 at 4:38 PM

It is scandalous that such a disgusting mind is given a public forum with which to spew this filth. It confirms my perception that the Democrats no longer revere Liberty but love only their religion of Gaia and power. Sweeet sweet power.

ronsfi on September 9, 2009 at 4:39 PM

But if he’s forced to depend entirely on his own party to pass legislation, he will be whipsawed by its different factions.

Ready to Lead?

Friedman’s upset that Obama can’t lead his own party! Boo Hoo. That’s what you get when you vote for a half-term senator, who’s never held a real job, beholden to the special interest (unions), every mistake covered by the network news, and zero experience.

If Obama needs help leading the country, he need only reach out to the GOP.

TN Mom on September 9, 2009 at 4:39 PM

They’re going to need psychiatric care in 2010 when they get trounced on Election Day.

Buy Danish on September 9, 2009 at 4:31 PM

I love it when you talk that way.

Jaibones on September 9, 2009 at 4:39 PM

Yeah, right, the Chinese are into clean energy. They are the worst polluters on the planet.

John the Libertarian on September 9, 2009 at 4:40 PM

But if he’s forced to depend entirely on his own party to pass legislation, he will be whipsawed by its different factions.

Now that is worth watching. Time to get some popcorn….

rukiddingme on September 9, 2009 at 4:33 PM

The network news promised that Obama would part the waters; all I’ve seen him do is a belly-flop.

More popcorn please!

TN Mom on September 9, 2009 at 4:42 PM

Say Tommy Friedman? Any newspaper in China that would dare to publish state intelligence secrets would be closed the following day and its editors and reporters given long hard jail terms after humiliating show trials.
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Moreover, the Chinese one party state has many men as tough as Dick Cheney, except they are in power. And the Chinese use a one bullet policy for domestic terrorism. One bullet in the back of the head of each Islamic terror supporter. And torture?! You can bet your Little Red Book Mr. Friedman, they’ve got torture! And they build nuclear powered and coal fired power plants each year by the dozens …

Mike OMalley on September 9, 2009 at 4:42 PM

A colleague gave me a copy of one of Friedman’s books because in his words it was “transformational”. He was right. I transformed the book into needed support for my wobbly table.

KG in Sask on September 9, 2009 at 4:42 PM

Then what? Liberals/Progressives want to “fundamentally change the country” but they fail to see that the ‘change’ they wish for today, is the same ‘change’ that will bite them in the a$$ tomorrow

See the begining of my post – it’s all about a sick need to live in a leader-worship third-world “utopia.”

According to them, Cuba, North Korea, Iran, Soviet Russia, China are all “model societies” that they, of course, have never lived in or experienced first-hand (of course, if they have even been to any of these places they’ve had handlers who would only show them the bright spots). They need to go actually live there for a while, but even then I don’t think they’d change their minds. There is truly something warped going on in their brains. Maybe it’s a lack of parental upbringing and they feel a need to have control in their chaotic lives (and thus turn to the government). Maybe it’s a dark pit in the human soul – kind of a yin to freedom’s yang. I don’t know, and frankly I don’t want to find out.

crazy_legs on September 9, 2009 at 4:44 PM

Then: Bush is a fascist because he spied on Islamists making phone calls. This must end NOW!!

Now: Fascism is kinda hip don’t you think?

angryed on September 9, 2009 at 4:44 PM

A centralist? Compared to whom? Genghis Khan?

Browncoatone on September 9, 2009 at 4:46 PM

one-party democracy

Isn’t that an oxymoron……from a moron?

GarandFan on September 9, 2009 at 4:48 PM

Comparing what Bush joked about once to what Friedman has been and believed for all of his adult life is…..invalid

I’m not saying Bush wanted dictatorship. I’m saying that both men prefer democracy but saw some of the convenience of dictatorship. In Bush’s case, he used that as a joke, since he knew democracy was far, far better (even if many of his liberal critics claimed not to realize this). In Friedman’s case, it’s less clear that it’s used for humorous effect, but I’m pretty sure it’s used at least for dramatic effect. He’s not saying, “I’d like autocracy, please.” He’s saying it has its benefits. He’s saying it stupidly and it does reveal a lot of negative things about him, but I don’t think thirst for American autocracy is one of them.

Every time someone talks about how wonderful China is, I can’t help but think of what a person I met in the mainland said, that he or she felt a pervading sense of hopelessness there. It took me aback. I never loved the PRC, but I thought at least that the people were doing a lot better than they were a few years ago and that their dynamism reflected an optimism that went beyond the government slogans. But material wealth and economic freedom aren’t everything.

calbear on September 9, 2009 at 4:49 PM

One-party autocracy certainly has its drawbacks. But when it is led by a reasonably enlightened group of people…China’s leaders understand that in a world of exploding populations and rising emerging-market middle classes

Who decides what is ‘reasonably enlightened’? Oh, yeah! Those who consider themselves reasonably enlightened.

And there’s no such thing as a middle class in an autocracy. There are only the ‘haves’ and the ‘have-nots’. Funny, isn’t it, that socialists whine about the have-nots around the world yet the system they endorse and push for makes most people go without.

Only an ‘itellectual’ could be so ignorant.

Liam on September 9, 2009 at 4:50 PM

Limerick, what weaponry are you are recommending for the defense of individual freedome these days?

Jaibones on September 9, 2009 at 4:51 PM

Friedman’s home is mind blowing.
Instead of books that America doesn’t have time to read.
A giant comic book that shows these jerks homes with a two sentence take on their me but not thee, would kill this whole b.s.

Hypocrisy Edition I

545 pics of congress
500 pics of chrissy mathews etc.
Sick of the constant preaching from both sides. Rinos with their bi-partisan blah blah should have their own little supplement to the comic book.

nondhimmie on September 9, 2009 at 4:52 PM

Wow. This is an example of The Modern American Thinker?

What a complete buffoon.

shades_of_gasden on September 9, 2009 at 4:52 PM

ChiCom Tom

Mark30339 on September 9, 2009 at 4:54 PM

Thomas Friedman, what happened to you!?!?

You used to be better than this.

JohnGalt23 on September 9, 2009 at 4:55 PM

Would that someone in Germany have told the Nazis no.

But Hitler restored the economy, redistributed wealth from the rich, built a nationalized automotive industry, promulgated the health of the people, and was particularly concerned with the development of German children into productive members of a new society.

Hmm.

unclesmrgol on September 9, 2009 at 4:59 PM

Thomas Friedman, what happened to you!?!?

You used to be better than this.

JohnGalt23 on September 9, 2009 at 4:55 PM

He’s always been nutty, you just had to read between the lines. Can’t tell you how I appreciate his delight in moving us forward to that eventual day when we will all bow to our chinese master.

anniekc on September 9, 2009 at 5:01 PM

unclesmrgol on September 9, 2009 at 4:59 PM

And Hitler was a vegetarian. The redux is coming full circle at last!

Liam on September 9, 2009 at 5:02 PM

If there is a revolution, this guy just volunteered to water the liberty tree.

jhffmn on September 9, 2009 at 5:06 PM

The inclusion of Van Jones in Friedman’s book looks all the more interesting in this context.

Friedman sounds like a typical intellectual dufus who naturally assumes he will enjoy the vaulted status afforded the intelligencia of a progressively reorganized society. Useful idiot.

Of course, he favors human rights, of course he favors tough environmental protections, he doesn’t favor brutal repression of the PRC’s population or its neighbors (including Tibet)…..obviously he’s been taken out of context if you extrapolate his views…..of course…how uninlightened to think otherwise.

R Square on September 9, 2009 at 5:09 PM

If there is a revolution, this guy just volunteered to water the liberty tree.

jhffmn on September 9, 2009 at 5:06 PM

Quote of the day!

Liam on September 9, 2009 at 5:11 PM

I confess. I’m a ginger lover from way back!

ronsfi on September 9, 2009 at 5:12 PM

crap

ronsfi on September 9, 2009 at 5:12 PM

Obama loves Zelaya and repudiates the Honduran Constitutionally processed Pres. Michelleti.

Pick a dictator, any dictator, and add a feather to Obama’s bffe headdress.

Who is surprised to find that Obatomized fans of this potus also espouse authoritarian dictatorships? They are bringing on dictatorship here and now, each in their own way, subtly or obviously, with or without nuance.

maverick muse on September 9, 2009 at 5:19 PM

Would it be P.C. to call Tom Friedman a dirty,low-down, yellowbelly fascist dog?

pilamaye on September 9, 2009 at 5:21 PM

crap

ronsfi on September 9, 2009 at 5:12 PM

Best comment (intentional or not) on Friedman of the thread.

;^)

profitsbeard on September 9, 2009 at 5:22 PM

Friedman’s home is mind blowing.

nondhimmie on September 9, 2009 at 4:52 PM

Yeah, well, let’s show the people what the carbon footprint of a radical environmentalist looks like. It’s 7.5 acres of landscraped, carbon-spewing, water-sucking, natural resource-destroying, capitalist loveliness. Can you even imagine the fossil fuels destroyed in digging up, cooking, and transporting the brick, stone, and lumber used to build this 11,400 square foot mansion?

LMAO. How about some other enviroscumhypocrites?

Leo DiCaprio’s Estate

Al “Green God” Gore

Jaibones on September 9, 2009 at 5:24 PM

Has anyone noticed the resemblance of Obama and Robespierre?
“Robespierre believed that the Terror was a time of discovering and revealing the enemy within Paris, within France, the enemy that hid in the safety of apparent patriotism. Because he believed that the Revolution was still in progress, and in danger of being sabotaged, he made every attempt to instill in the populace and Convention the urgency of carrying out the Terror. In his Report and others, he brought tales and fears of traitors, monarchists, and saboteurs throughout the Republic and also the Convention itself.

Robespierre expanded the traditional list of the Revolution’s enemies to include moderates and “false revolutionaries”. In Robespierre’s understanding, these were not only ignorant of the dangers facing the Republic, but also in many cases disguised themselves as active contributors to the Revolution, who simply repeated the work of others, or even impeded the progress of the patriots. Anyone not in step with the decrees of Robespierre’s committee is said to have been eventually purged from the Convention, and thoroughly hunted in the general population. While it is debated whether Robespierre targeted moderates to accelerate his own agenda, or out of legitimate concern for France, it is known that his policy led to the execution of many of the Revolution’s original and staunchest advocates”.

Johan Klaus on September 9, 2009 at 5:27 PM

Okay, so did a memo go out saying that all communists can come out of the closet now?

There was a time when being called a communist was an insult.

Forget 2012, if there’s not fighting in the streets for the sake of our republic in 2010 I’ll eat my gardening hat.

Niere on September 9, 2009 at 5:27 PM

about that environmentalism of his I’m glad he’s setting an example for us peons, check out his house. I will not be lectured on environmentalism from the likes of him or any leftist.
elduende on September 9, 2009 at 4:18 PM

Al Gore…eye sore

maverick muse on September 9, 2009 at 5:27 PM

I’m not saying Bush wanted dictatorship. I’m saying that both men prefer democracy but saw some of the convenience of dictatorship. In Bush’s case, he used that as a joke, since he knew democracy was far, far better (even if many of his liberal critics claimed not to realize this). In Friedman’s case, it’s less clear that it’s used for humorous effect, but I’m pretty sure it’s used at least for dramatic effect. He’s not saying, “I’d like autocracy, please.” He’s saying it has its benefits. He’s saying it stupidly and it does reveal a lot of negative things about him, but I don’t think thirst for American autocracy is one of them.

I disagree, and my disagreement is based on Friedman’s writings in the past, the little temper tantrum he threw on the Sunday talk shows over Van Jones’ firing, as well as the increasingly louder drumbeat coming from the left wing echo chamber he so comfortably resides to the effect that any opposition to Obama’s agenda that’s coming from the right is inconsequential and should be shoved aside for the greater good.

I honestly believe that Friedman likens our opposition to flies buzzing around a picnic lunch. Do you politely ask the flies to go somewhere else, or do you try to make a deal with them along the lines of, “If you leave the hamburgers alone, you can have the potato salad!”?

No you don’t – you simply swat them without a second thought.

Which is well and good, as long as you’re not one of the flies.

Gator Country on September 9, 2009 at 5:28 PM

“Mr. Obama is not a socialist; he’s a centrist.”

Only in the liberal rarefied air of the old grey lady, does that sentence have any relevance.

/headdesk

Rachel Miller on September 9, 2009 at 5:28 PM

The worst thing about Tom Friedman is that if still lived in Minnesota he would have voted for Al Franken.

Bruno Strozek on September 9, 2009 at 5:29 PM

unclesmrgol on September 9, 2009 at 4:59 PM

But Hitler was a socialist and Obama is a,a,a, gulp, socialist…….

Johan Klaus on September 9, 2009 at 5:31 PM

Look at the climate/energy bill that came out of the House.Its sponsors had to work twice as hard to produce this breakthrough cap-and-trade legislation. Why? Because with basically no G.O.P. representatives willing to vote for any price on carbon that would stimulate investments in clean energy and energy efficiency, the sponsors had to rely entirely on Democrats — and that meant paying off coal-state and agriculture Democrats with pork……
…..
The only way for us to match them [China] is by legislating a rising carbon price along with efficiency and renewable standards that will stimulate massive private investment in clean-tech. Hard to do with a one-party democracy.

Uhhhh Tom. You do realize that China isn’t worried about Global Warming and isn’t working on “clean energy”? You do realize that what you have written makes no sense at all from a logic standpoint, let alone a basic human decency standpoint.

My God, if this is the way the elites are truly thinking, then they have gone absolutely mad.

Kasper Hauser on September 9, 2009 at 5:33 PM

Yep, any government that forcibly removes bodily organs from followers of a peaceful sect (Falun Gong), operates mobile death squads (domestically), locks up dissenters and censors the internet, not to mention a squillion other infringements of all that is right, definitely gets the nod of approval from wannabee totalitarians everywhere.

How could the idiot write that the CCP leaders are enlightened?

One Against Many on September 9, 2009 at 5:34 PM

Johan Klaus on September 9, 2009 at 5:27 PM

Yes, not only the smearing of any who aren’t of his own particular slant, but the blood letting to purge the population, we see the parallel to this potus.

Just don’t forget how the Clinton Feds already tested public response having bombarded separatists, attacked and wiped out through FBI tank attack and bonfire, burning all people and evidence to ashes, and monopolizing the news story from White House accounts vs. local reporting to smear the victims as unworthy of trial by jury.

maverick muse on September 9, 2009 at 5:35 PM

Al Gore…eye sore

maverick muse on September 9, 2009 at 5:27 PM

The level of hypocrisy is an absolute outrage. Its not just Gore, Friedman, Edwards, these leftist “elites” are out of control. Did you see the Camille Paglia piece she nails them on this.

elduende on September 9, 2009 at 5:38 PM

Strange isn’t it that when the GOP is runnin’ the show, they wrap themselves in the flag and profess “Liberty or die!”, but when the liberals are in driver seat they can’t break out the hammer and sickle fast enough…

Wyznowski on September 9, 2009 at 5:45 PM

No wonder Barry has been reading this guy’s book for 2 years and promoting it every time someone asks.

evergreen on September 9, 2009 at 5:51 PM

but when the liberals are in driver seat they can’t break out the hammer and sickle fast enough…

Wyznowski on September 9, 2009 at 5:45 PM

If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck…….

Johan Klaus on September 9, 2009 at 5:51 PM

TERM LIMITS.

Thank you, Mr. Friedman, for cogently espousing a bed rock argument for returning to the model of the citizen elected to Congress rather than the Congress for life representation we have now.

Limits should be six Terms in the House OR two terms in the Senate OR three terms in the House and one term in the Senate.

Time to limit the damage these Congress Critters do and unfortunately, the good must be limited right along with the incompetent, venal, criminal, witless, weak and unprincipled.

LIMIT ALL AUTHORITY BY TIME AND EXTENT.

LIMITS LIMITS LIMITS !!!!!!!!!!!!

ExpressoBold on September 9, 2009 at 5:54 PM

Somehow I expected, when the NY Times advocated the autocratic takeover of the US Government by the Democrats, the end of voting, and the end of the Representative style of Government (or democracy if you prefer to mislabel it) … that they’d be more subtle about it.

Guess I was wrong.

gekkobear on September 9, 2009 at 5:54 PM

Friedman extols the Chinese form of government while deriding the fact that political opposition keeps Obama from imposing the policies Friedman likes:

And the same person says,

Mr. Obama is not a socialist; he’s a centrist.

One of the most overrated columnists of all time.

tom on September 9, 2009 at 5:54 PM

Showing a picture of the Friedman palace would show the perspective from which Tom proclaims what is good for the proletariat and the burgeoise.

Their home dwarfs anything which existed in the antebellum days in the old South.

At least he won’t need to worry about working for a living when the NYT folds.

What would we do without his patrician pronouncements on the wants and needs of the huddled masses?

molonlabe28 on September 9, 2009 at 5:57 PM

Mr. Obama is not a socialist; he’s a centrist.

I guess that’s true if Mao is your reference point.

RadClown on September 9, 2009 at 6:02 PM

Mr. Obama is not a socialist; he’s a centrist

Wrong again. He’s a FASCIST and a socialist and fits into many other nasty categories too, depending on the subject at hand.
Spiritk9 on September 9, 2009 at 4:23 PM

The best word to use is Statist.

And if Obama is a centrist; and not a Statist, we’re in deep do-do.

Fake8 on September 9, 2009 at 4:29 PM

I hold with Spiritk9 on this. Obama is unquestionably a statist and a socialist, but fascist is more specific and therefore more accurate.

All communists and fascists are totalitarian at heart, because it requires a great deal of force to make people act contrary to their natures. Fascism avoids making the state the nominal owner of all means of production by simply giving the state the control regardless of ownership.

Smiley-face fascism, if you will.

tom on September 9, 2009 at 6:05 PM

The Dreams of Thomas Friedman.

George Orwell on September 9, 2009 at 6:07 PM

If Friedman’s dreams of the dictatorship came true I think could count on being at a reeducation camp, but I don’t think he should count on being there as an instructor.

Nosli W. Nevets on September 9, 2009 at 6:22 PM

The strategy of left wing journalists is to sound so completely insane that Obama will sound reasonable by comparison.

Basilsbest on September 9, 2009 at 6:26 PM

Mr. Obama is not a socialist; he’s a centrist.

This is not all that surprising a statement coming from an Uber left wing journalist in 2009. Imagine if someone Friedman considers a lefty was elected President, …. now that’s a scary thought!

cavman on September 9, 2009 at 6:27 PM

Actually, considering Friedman’s column, perhaps rounding up the opposition is a net plus for the Chinese in his eyes.

RACIST!!! I can read the codewords, Allah.

/sarc

Meryl Yourish on September 9, 2009 at 6:31 PM

Tom Friedman In China – the Musical

TOM (sings, being led to a wall)

But wait! But wait! Strange Fate!

You do not want to shoot me.
I’m a friend of despotic tyranny!

FIRING SQUAD CHIEF

Shut your revanchistic, backsliding trap!
Load your weapons, men, and aim them at his yap!

TOM (obbligato)

If I must die, then let me say it’s true:
Your tough love thrills me, through and through and…

FIRING SQUAD SHOOTS HIM

Tom (collapsing, gasps, in a High C)

…through!

profitsbeard on September 9, 2009 at 6:35 PM

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