Drudge source: House Dems don’t have the votes for ObamaCare
posted at 6:25 pm on September 9, 2009 by Allahpundit
Pelosi says she does, Drudge does a head count and says she doesn’t. They might both be right: There’s not enough support to pass one of the current House bills, but maybe Madam Speaker thinks she’s got the numbers to get something with a “trigger” for the public option through. Then again, if 40+ Blue Dogs are ready to walk one way and 50+ progressives are ready to walk the other, the trigger would have to appeal to sizable contingents of both groups. How likely is that?
As we near zero hour, a little something from Boehner via CNS to meditate on. Actually, there won’t be much lipstick on this pig — in some passages, it’s practically a verbatim rehash of prior O oratory — but to the extent that there is, the shade is Hypocritical Blue.
Update: “We’ve got a plan and we’re ready to show it to him — literally.”
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it’s come to be a beautiful word – “Waterloo”…
TWG78 on September 9, 2009 at 6:27 PM
I just read that on Drudge… this is going to be fun.
d1carter on September 9, 2009 at 6:28 PM
Liberal and rational thinking brain are orthogonal concepts.
tarpon on September 9, 2009 at 6:28 PM
Show him the plan, then throw your shoes at him!
TWG78 on September 9, 2009 at 6:30 PM
Why did they tip their hands?! Now Barry the chickenship will cut that from his speech!
anniekc on September 9, 2009 at 6:31 PM
Make sure to mention the plans tonight during the GOP response and have them easily available for people to go find.
Oh my gosh – the GOP found their gonads. I might watch on mute after all
gophergirl on September 9, 2009 at 6:31 PM
I read it on Drudge also but I don’t think anything about this is fun. As a small business partener with my wife, I hopen/pray all of this gets defeated.
GADinSB on September 9, 2009 at 6:32 PM
Eh, they’ll probably have the votes back tomorrow and it will all be because Obama gave the most wonderful speech ever.
myrenovations on September 9, 2009 at 6:32 PM
Bottom line, Pelosi needs to go!
Not now!
YESTERDAY!
pilamaye on September 9, 2009 at 6:32 PM
They didn’t have the votes before the recess and now all of the sudden after they’ve been handed their asses in the townhalls they “have the votes”. Yeah ok.
elduende on September 9, 2009 at 6:32 PM
I wish they had been quiet about it too…just spring it on him out of the blue and see if he freaks.
AUINSC on September 9, 2009 at 6:32 PM
I’d rather throw tampons at him….more appropriate.
HornetSting on September 9, 2009 at 6:33 PM
If they don’t get what they want this time around they’re just going to keep wasting time and wasting time till they’re thrown out of office.
The liberal scumbags don’t want any real reform, they want socialism and the destruction and bankruptcy of our country.
I think 9/12 should be served with torches and pitchforks until not one brick rests atop another. Maybe they’ll get the message then.
Spiritk9 on September 9, 2009 at 6:33 PM
Excerpts of President Obama’s speech indicate he’ll say he’s open to all serious ideas:
The Republicans need to present their plan every. single. chance. they get, and rub the fact that they haven’t been invited to the White House to talk options since April in his face.
BadgerHawk on September 9, 2009 at 6:33 PM
“trigger”? Hmmm….
Chainsaw56 on September 9, 2009 at 6:34 PM
“new” ones?
FontanaConservative on September 9, 2009 at 6:34 PM
Wow! Good for Drudge in doing all that background. I love the New Media.
Weight of Glory on September 9, 2009 at 6:34 PM
I’ll have to wear my disco platform shoes for that! Got some good heft to ‘em.
Battlecruiser-operational on September 9, 2009 at 6:35 PM
Breitbart is reporting the following:
Looks like B.O. is playing the Fear Card yet again!
pilamaye on September 9, 2009 at 6:35 PM
not sure they’d go the distance. kinda like throwing a cotton ball…just saying.
oh, and that’s offensive.
TWG78 on September 9, 2009 at 6:35 PM
Amen sista! I’ll be applauding if I see the GOP Sen. standing up with our version of healthcare reform! On mute also due to not wanting my ears to squirt out blood at the sound of the One’s voice spewing forth lies.
Wileygrl3 on September 9, 2009 at 6:35 PM
Oh man, Hornetsting that was wicked!!!
I think they shouldn’t have tipped their hand. Obambi is clever enough to negate the gesture.
catlady on September 9, 2009 at 6:35 PM
Are the republican plans much better? Again, I do not want mandatory anything and I do not want to give up my privacy to the feds.
Blake on September 9, 2009 at 6:36 PM
BadgerHawk on September 9, 2009 at 6:33 PM
Amen to that. Loudly and OFTEN!!
catlady on September 9, 2009 at 6:37 PM
I never figured that angle….racist. Good show.
Alright, I’ll lob a shoe at him.
HornetSting on September 9, 2009 at 6:37 PM
“Sir, I fear Wellington has us on one flank, and Von Blucher has cut us off on our other…”
Heh.
Bruno Strozek on September 9, 2009 at 6:37 PM
The Donkey party is ironically living out the story of the jacka$$ caught between two bales…each looks appetizing so it looks back and forth getting neither.
sven10077 on September 9, 2009 at 6:38 PM
:)
HornetSting on September 9, 2009 at 6:38 PM
I am not yet convinced that the Repubs have any balls left. I think that most of them left ‘em at my spay/neuter clinic…
Is it medically possible to grow new balls?
catlady on September 9, 2009 at 6:38 PM
shoes are made by little brown skinned child slaves….
RACIST
sven10077 on September 9, 2009 at 6:38 PM
Please walk out, Republicans!
SouthernGent on September 9, 2009 at 6:38 PM
It’s like I said yesterday. If they had the votes, they would have passed it.
Yesterday.
Dave R. on September 9, 2009 at 6:38 PM
I love ABBA :)
FontanaConservative on September 9, 2009 at 6:38 PM
Drudge adds, “And people will die.”
Wethal on September 9, 2009 at 6:39 PM
If you are going to throw shoes, make them stiletto heels… just sayin’
catlady on September 9, 2009 at 6:39 PM
Part of a John Boehner commentary….
“Republicans believe we can achieve real health care reform without destroying jobs and undermining ERISA. In the House, we’ve outlined a plan to strengthen the employer-provided health care system. Our proposal establishes small-business health plans, which allow smaller firms to band together through associations and purchase quality health care — even across state lines — at a more affordable cost.
It provides small businesses tax credits to defray the administrative costs of providing health coverage for their employees. It gives states incentives to reform their insurance markets so insurance companies are able to compete and increase employers’ and employees’ purchasing power. And it reins in junk lawsuits that lead to defensive medicine and higher premiums.
To expand access to quality care, our proposal includes tax credits so those who are uninsured can purchase plans that work for them. It promotes health savings accounts that give employees more control over their own health care decisions. And it ends the bias many insurance companies have shown against those with pre-existing conditions, while focusing on innovative preventive care and wellness programs.”
Wileygrl3 on September 9, 2009 at 6:40 PM
Well, yeah, but we are now concerned with trajectory and the ‘cotton’ factor….
Didn’t someone say one of our trolls was a ‘tampon’? Let’s just deliver him in a small box with a few holes at the top. That would be offensive enough.
HornetSting on September 9, 2009 at 6:40 PM
Tampons, triggers and balls, oh my!
Chainsaw56 on September 9, 2009 at 6:40 PM
I’ve been waiting for a sign of life since the election was over. I think it’s been here and there but if they do this I will be impressed
gophergirl on September 9, 2009 at 6:40 PM
What was that you said, Barry? You can’t put lipstick on a….wait….what’s the difference between a hockey mom and a pit bull again?
ElectricPhase on September 9, 2009 at 6:40 PM
Indeed it would have allowed President History to be the first to sign a bill not a war declaration in an ad hoc joint session of Congress….
very imperial….very Shicklegruber.
sven10077 on September 9, 2009 at 6:41 PM
Yeah, well, people are dying every day of some kind of medical condition. Obambi is trying to create a sense of crisis.
catlady on September 9, 2009 at 6:41 PM
If Barack Ogabe doesn’t give another speech people will die….
sven10077 on September 9, 2009 at 6:41 PM
All a big fake.
Lucy to Charlie Brown…..let’s do the “trigger”
nondhimmie on September 9, 2009 at 6:42 PM
Like they were if it wasn’t passed before the August recess? LOL he’s becoming a bad party joke
gophergirl on September 9, 2009 at 6:42 PM
If it’s shoes, throw these.
FontanaConservative on September 9, 2009 at 6:42 PM
Damn. Hostess cupcakes, nope, racist.
Hey, how about Hot Dogs…they’re all American and they are made from lips and a$$holes…..uh, no, wait. THey would have to be all beef due to the pork factor…..
This is going to be tough.
HornetSting on September 9, 2009 at 6:42 PM
They need Mark Levin to do the GOP rebuttal.
Blake on September 9, 2009 at 6:42 PM
Every time the Dems stand up to clap, the GOP should sit and hold up their plan.
Wethal on September 9, 2009 at 6:42 PM
PUBLICE SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT – THE WHITEHOUSE
If at any time leading up to tonight’s speech, during the speech or during the afterglow of the speech, you experience a tingle running up your leg lasting longer than four hours seek immediate medical attention.
- rightside
MB4 on September 9, 2009 at 6:42 PM
Good Lord now Uhbama’s saying people are going to die if we don’t pass his plan. What a dimwit.
iceman1960 on September 9, 2009 at 6:42 PM
This could be the mother of all set-ups. Leaks of division. Deathcare seems like a hopeless dream. Zero makes a speech. Inspired Dims unify and pass this disaster. I mean, the Dim’s effort on this matter has been so awful that I can’t believe that they’re claiming victory when there’s really nothing of the sort in sight. As much as I despise who they are and what the stand for, I’m still having a problem beiieving that any group can be this uncoordinated and…well, just plain lame.
joejm65 on September 9, 2009 at 6:43 PM
Rumor has it a squadron of flying Unicorns (emblazened with the Obama “O”) are on standby preparing to fly around the Capitol after his speech.
Rainbows are awaiting their signal from The One as well.
darwin on September 9, 2009 at 6:43 PM
Love it. Some were saying earlier today that the GOP should walk out during the speech, but I think that would be childish and self-defeating as far as the media coverage goes.
This, however, is just about perfect.
BadgerHawk on September 9, 2009 at 6:43 PM
Only if they give them to me, like all the other welfare rats that would wear them. I could not in good conscience pay for them to throw at the won.
HornetSting on September 9, 2009 at 6:43 PM
Either way, just remember that the Republicans are “obstructionists.”
Jim Treacher on September 9, 2009 at 6:43 PM
Ouch!
Sarah Palin: Response to the White House
Sarah Palin’s Notes
Response to the White House
Today at 2:55pm
I’m pleased that the White House is finally responding to Republican health care ideas instead of pretending they don’t exist.[1] But in doing so President Obama should follow his own sound advice and avoid making “wild misrepresentations”.[2] Medicare vouchers would give everyone on Medicare the chance to decide for themselves which health plan to use, rather than leave that decision to government bureaucrats. Such proposals are the kind of health care reform that Republicans stand for: market-oriented, patient-centered, and result-driven.
The White House talking points leave the rest of my arguments unanswered. They don’t respond to the idea that all individuals should get the same tax benefits received by those who get coverage through their employers; that we must reform our tort laws; and that we should allow Americans to buy insurance across state lines. The White House also fails to respond to the Nyce/Schieber study indicating that wages will fall if the government expands coverage without reducing health care inflation rates.
One last thing: after President Obama’s speech tonight, listen for which pundits use the words “false”, “scary”, and “risky” in describing the proposals I put forward. That’s how you’ll be able to tell who the White House counted as “allies” worthy of receiving its talking points.
-Sarah Palin
[1] See http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0909/White_House_talking_points_blast_Palin.html.
[2] See http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/16/opinion/16obama.html.
Blake on September 9, 2009 at 6:44 PM
link: Buridan’s ass
Geochelone on September 9, 2009 at 6:44 PM
We’re all gonna die! We’re all gonna die! Save us, Glorious Leader!!!
What a tool.
John the Libertarian on September 9, 2009 at 6:44 PM
Tonight, tonsils,feet,foreskin,& fingers cringe in fear at Obama’s yearning for their destruction.
portlandon on September 9, 2009 at 6:44 PM
I just read the quotes on Drudge. The man is desperate – not good for the leader of the free world.
If he acts like this over health care – Heaven help us if there is another terrorist attack
gophergirl on September 9, 2009 at 6:44 PM
I’d rather have Glenn Beck do it. He’s eons ahead on the dismantling of the obama admin.
HornetSting on September 9, 2009 at 6:45 PM
That’s a pretty small deck: Race card, Crisis card, Fear card.
Chainsaw56 on September 9, 2009 at 6:45 PM
Democrats are handing the Republicans all the ammo they will ever need to shoot their ideas full of so many holes that they will think they are a target at a shooting range.
The only question that still remains – will the Republicans take advantage of the opportunity given them, or will they, as usual, take the “bi-partisan” road of a McCain or a Michael Steele?
When I see them fight for us like men who have a cause, then I’ll believe we have a chance to expose this Marxist Administration. Until then, it’s just a lot of talk.
Joe Pyne on September 9, 2009 at 6:45 PM
Race Card by Milton Bradley is a hard game….unless you are the dealer.
sven10077 on September 9, 2009 at 6:45 PM
O/T
Does anyone have any info on the Sunstein (Not in the mood for spellcheck) vote?
FontanaConservative on September 9, 2009 at 6:46 PM
Thanks for this! Wow… she is taking no prisoners.
John the Libertarian on September 9, 2009 at 6:46 PM
Oh noes! People are gonna die!
/facepalm
BakerAllie on September 9, 2009 at 6:46 PM
Man she is a fighter. She has already co-opted some of his talking points and code words. Barry is probably having his speech re-written again.
Geochelone on September 9, 2009 at 6:46 PM
oejm65 on September 9, 2009 at 6:43 PM
Yeah, I am kinda worried too…. I haven’t been too optimistic since last November. But – we must still fight the good fight, and VOTE in 2010!
catlady on September 9, 2009 at 6:47 PM
Hmmmm…I may consider watching it for the drama factor.
Naw, I’m not watching. But is there going to be a live thread?
conservative pilgrim on September 9, 2009 at 6:47 PM
Don’t forget the joker.
Geochelone on September 9, 2009 at 6:47 PM
It would be unhotairian to be without one.
FontanaConservative on September 9, 2009 at 6:48 PM
LOL. Yes, it is.
Dave R. on September 9, 2009 at 6:49 PM
DAAAAAMMMMMMNNNNNNN. Thats gonna leave a mark. Right across Barry’s face.
portlandon on September 9, 2009 at 6:49 PM
What time is the sales pitch starting?
conservative pilgrim on September 9, 2009 at 6:49 PM
I agree Palin it not taking Obambi’s crap. What is really stupid is how the POTUS is lowering the dignity of the office by taking potshots at a private citizen. So stupid….
catlady on September 9, 2009 at 6:49 PM
Cloture passed. 63 to something.
Blake on September 9, 2009 at 6:50 PM
Yeah we need a live thread so we can guess which HA commenter is drinking while watching.
catlady on September 9, 2009 at 6:50 PM
She keeps saying it and it keeps not being true…no wonder Obama loves her.
AUINSC on September 9, 2009 at 6:50 PM
And sounding like dare I say it – the leader of our party
gophergirl on September 9, 2009 at 6:50 PM
Barack Obama: Listen to me, everybody! I’m your new leader! I’m gonna save your lives! I’m gonna tell you what to do!
Jim Treacher: Don’t listen to that pipsqueak. The sky isn’t falling.
Barack Obama: I tell ya it is too falling!
Jim Treacher: And I tell you it isn’t.
Barack Obama: Is too!
Jim Treacher: All right, if the sky is falling why doesn’t it hit me in the head?
[Rahm Emanuel hits Jim Treacher on the head with a piece of wood]
Sheeple: Barack Obama is right! What do we do? Oh, Barack Obama, you’ve got to help us!
MB4 on September 9, 2009 at 6:50 PM
Wow! You race fans sound like you’ve ‘won’ something. Sadly, flag-wavers, you have not. Check back in 2016. Until then, Mission Accomplished!!
simplesimon on September 9, 2009 at 6:50 PM
Yes, there’s probably a King in there somewhere.
Chainsaw56 on September 9, 2009 at 6:50 PM
HornetSting on September 9, 2009 at 6:50 PM
Let me be perfectly clear, 7:00 pm central.
Knucklehead on September 9, 2009 at 6:50 PM
This is a health-care bill, guys: throw bed pans – preferably full.
Rod on September 9, 2009 at 6:51 PM
Sarah Palin is a fighter, and that’s what we need, more fighters!!
These leftists count on the opposition backing down, and when we refuse to back down, they get exposed for the cowardly vermin they are.
Joe Pyne on September 9, 2009 at 6:51 PM
Flop sweat time for the Donks. They fear and loathe her.
Bruno Strozek on September 9, 2009 at 6:51 PM
Oh wow. Palin has some panache. Bring it on!
conservative pilgrim on September 9, 2009 at 6:51 PM
Maybe, I’m imagining this but I get the distinct feeling she is enjoying all of this.
Blake on September 9, 2009 at 6:51 PM
What really showed his jackassery was during his AFL CIO speech when he mocked at least 1/3 of the nation saying we didn’t have any ideas.
TWG78 on September 9, 2009 at 6:51 PM
And now she targets the pundits who get the WH proleFeed.
I don’t ever recall anyone using this tactic in quite this way. Do you guys know?
She has pin-pointed the close relationship that the media has to the WH. It should not be so cozy.
Geochelone on September 9, 2009 at 6:52 PM
“Lipstick on a pig??” Isn’t that what Obama said to deride Palin? Turnabout is a bit*h! LOL.
JiangxiDad on September 9, 2009 at 6:52 PM
A lot of BS from Pelosi, as usual.
cubachi on September 9, 2009 at 6:52 PM
Okay, bed pans is more topic appropriate…
catlady on September 9, 2009 at 6:52 PM
Filibuster broken, 63-35 on cloture. The Rs to vote for cloture: Bennett, Gregg, Hatch, Lugar, Snowe.
Scary stuff.
BardMan on September 9, 2009 at 6:52 PM
bed pans ARE… geez I cannot believe I wrote that…
catlady on September 9, 2009 at 6:53 PM
Public enemies……it is time to destroy them.
HornetSting on September 9, 2009 at 6:54 PM
The same way Bobby Fisher toyed with the mind of his opponents; before crushing their very psyche.
Geochelone on September 9, 2009 at 6:54 PM
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