Comments on: Dem rep: Time to get rid of the czars http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/09/dem-rep-time-to-get-rid-of-the-czars/ The world’s first, full-service conservative Internet broadcast network Mon, 13 Feb 2012 15:03:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: landlines http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/09/dem-rep-time-to-get-rid-of-the-czars/comment-page-1/#comment-2687012 landlines Thu, 10 Sep 2009 16:34:40 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=65049#comment-2687012 <blockquote>Bush had 4 czars * National Intelligence Czar John D. Negroponte: 4/21/2005 Mike McConnell: 2/13/2007 * Cybersecurity Czar Rod Beckstram: 3/7/2008 * AIDS Czar Scott Evertz: 4/9/2001 Dr. Joseph O’Neill: 7/19/2002 * Drug Czar John Walters: 12/7/2001 Sugarbuzz on September 9, 2009 at 4:32 PM</blockquote> But didn't ALL of these "czars" testify before Congress...numerous times??? There is no real comparison between Bush's use of czars as <em>presidential advisers</em> and the Obama tactic of using "czars" to <em>bypass Congressional oversight.</em> While I have no problem with presidential advisers, unaccountable czars have no place in our government and taxpayers should not have to fund any of them.

Bush had 4 czars

* National Intelligence Czar

John D. Negroponte: 4/21/2005
Mike McConnell: 2/13/2007

* Cybersecurity Czar

Rod Beckstram: 3/7/2008

* AIDS Czar

Scott Evertz: 4/9/2001
Dr. Joseph O’Neill: 7/19/2002

* Drug Czar

John Walters: 12/7/2001

Sugarbuzz on September 9, 2009 at 4:32 PM

But didn’t ALL of these “czars” testify before Congress…numerous times???

There is no real comparison between Bush’s use of czars as presidential advisers and the Obama tactic of using “czars” to bypass Congressional oversight.

While I have no problem with presidential advisers, unaccountable czars have no place in our government and taxpayers should not have to fund any of them.

]]> By: Bill Blizzard http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/09/dem-rep-time-to-get-rid-of-the-czars/comment-page-1/#comment-2684540 Bill Blizzard Thu, 10 Sep 2009 02:55:36 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=65049#comment-2684540 Nixon appointed John Love and then William Simon to be his energy czars. Ben Zimmer reported at “Slate.com” last year that Nixon actually used the phrase “energy czar” when he offered Mr. Simon that job. But despite the fact that Nixon actually used the term, the word “czar” wasn‘t actually in the job title. People who have jobs in the administration that are called “the something-czar” aren‘t actually czars of anything. Czar - sorry to say, it‘s a nickname. The drug czar is actually the Director of the Office of National Drug Control Policy. Poppy Bush created that job in 1989. The intelligence czar is the Director of National Intelligence, created during the George W. Bush administration in 2005. The AIDS czar - that‘s the nickname for the Director of the Office of National AIDS Policy that job created in 2001. The border czar, that‘s another one created by George W. Bush. It‘s the nickname for the Assistant Secretary for International Affairs and Special Representative for Border Affairs in the Department of Homeland Security. The science czar, that‘s the Director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy. The regulatory czar is the nickname for the Head of the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs, which Dave Weigel notes at the “Washington Independent” today is an office that was created back in 1980. So take your pick. Either these are the czars who are turning America into imperialist Russia. Or these are people with specific policy jobs and long awkward job titles. So the press calls them czars even though they‘re not actually 19th century Russian autocrats. Bush and Cheney created administration jobs that were nicknamed the food safety czar, the cybersecurity czar, aforementioned regulatory czar and the AIDS czar. They created a bird flu czar and a manufacturing czar and more. And the right did not freak about those like Bolsheviks in St. Petersburg. But President Obama? Clearly his hiring practices are evidence of him forming a communist-fascist-czarist-Kenyan-Martian shadow government here to take away your guns. Or he‘s doing what American presidents have done without controversy for generations. Nixon appointed John Love and then William Simon to be his energy czars. Ben Zimmer reported at “Slate.com” last year that Nixon actually used the phrase “energy czar” when he offered Mr. Simon that job. But despite the fact that Nixon actually used the term, the word “czar” wasn‘t actually in the job title. People who have jobs in the administration that are called “the something-czar” aren‘t actually czars of anything. Czar – sorry to say, it‘s a nickname.

The drug czar is actually the Director of the Office of National Drug Control Policy. Poppy Bush created that job in 1989.

The intelligence czar is the Director of National Intelligence, created during the George W. Bush administration in 2005.

The AIDS czar – that‘s the nickname for the Director of the Office of National AIDS Policy
that job created in 2001.

The border czar, that‘s another one created by George W. Bush. It‘s the nickname for the Assistant Secretary for International Affairs and Special Representative for Border Affairs in the Department of Homeland Security.

The science czar, that‘s the Director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy.

The regulatory czar is the nickname for the Head of the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs, which Dave Weigel notes at the “Washington Independent” today is an office that was created back in 1980.

So take your pick. Either these are the czars who are turning America into imperialist Russia. Or these are people with specific policy jobs and long awkward job titles.

So the press calls them czars even though they‘re not actually 19th century Russian autocrats. Bush and Cheney created administration jobs that were nicknamed the food safety czar, the cybersecurity czar, aforementioned regulatory czar and the AIDS czar. They created a bird flu czar and a manufacturing czar and more.
And the right did not freak about those like Bolsheviks in St. Petersburg. But President Obama? Clearly his hiring practices are evidence of him forming a communist-fascist-czarist-Kenyan-Martian shadow government here to take away your guns.
Or he‘s doing what American presidents have done without controversy for generations.

]]> By: PhiKapMom http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/09/dem-rep-time-to-get-rid-of-the-czars/comment-page-1/#comment-2683956 PhiKapMom Thu, 10 Sep 2009 02:07:53 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=65049#comment-2683956 You can bet that Rep Boren talked to his Dad, former Senator David Boren, before taking this action. There are rumors floating around OK that he may become a Republican before the next election. Also he refused to endorse Obama. His 2nd district had some of the lowest vote totals in OK for Obama which is a Democrat district and he said recently Obama would not even get that many votes if the election were held today. Obama got 34% of the votes statewide and less in the 2nd district. You can bet that Rep Boren talked to his Dad, former Senator David Boren, before taking this action. There are rumors floating around OK that he may become a Republican before the next election.

Also he refused to endorse Obama. His 2nd district had some of the lowest vote totals in OK for Obama which is a Democrat district and he said recently Obama would not even get that many votes if the election were held today. Obama got 34% of the votes statewide and less in the 2nd district.

]]> By: davidk http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/09/dem-rep-time-to-get-rid-of-the-czars/comment-page-1/#comment-2683709 davidk Thu, 10 Sep 2009 01:52:14 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=65049#comment-2683709 Good luck with that. It would go to the Sumpreme Court. Good luck with that.

It would go to the Sumpreme Court.

]]> By: silvernana http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/09/dem-rep-time-to-get-rid-of-the-czars/comment-page-1/#comment-2681022 silvernana Wed, 09 Sep 2009 23:37:20 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=65049#comment-2681022 <blockquote>Rep. Dan Boren (D-OK), a conservative Democrat I’m guessing an OK conservative Dem is 8X more conservative than a “moderate” Republican from Maine. angryed on September 9, 2009 at 4:47 PM</blockquote> You are exactly right!

Rep. Dan Boren (D-OK), a conservative Democrat
I’m guessing an OK conservative Dem is 8X more conservative than a “moderate” Republican from Maine.

angryed on September 9, 2009 at 4:47 PM

You are exactly right!

]]> By: PappyD61 http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/09/dem-rep-time-to-get-rid-of-the-czars/comment-page-1/#comment-2680850 PappyD61 Wed, 09 Sep 2009 23:08:55 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=65049#comment-2680850 <strong>ALL THE CZARS MUST GO.</strong> Bigger question for HotAir readers: Who will take the fall if OBAMACARE fails? Rahm? SanFranNanGran? Axelnod? <strong></strong> ALL THE CZARS MUST GO.

Bigger question for HotAir readers:

Who will take the fall if OBAMACARE fails?

Rahm? SanFranNanGran? Axelnod?

]]> By: Mojave Mark http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/09/dem-rep-time-to-get-rid-of-the-czars/comment-page-1/#comment-2680769 Mojave Mark Wed, 09 Sep 2009 22:56:23 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=65049#comment-2680769 Leave the Czars for Russia. I want my constitution back. Leave the Czars for Russia. I want my constitution back.

]]> By: onlineanalyst http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/09/dem-rep-time-to-get-rid-of-the-czars/comment-page-1/#comment-2680723 onlineanalyst Wed, 09 Sep 2009 22:47:58 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=65049#comment-2680723 I think that a lot of members of Congress got an earful over their recess because of the outrageous porkulous bill. They may be much less willing to put the nation into unrecoverable debt through another trumped-up crisis. I think that a lot of members of Congress got an earful over their recess because of the outrageous porkulous bill. They may be much less willing to put the nation into unrecoverable debt through another trumped-up crisis.

]]> By: Mary in LA http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/09/dem-rep-time-to-get-rid-of-the-czars/comment-page-1/#comment-2680669 Mary in LA Wed, 09 Sep 2009 22:39:32 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=65049#comment-2680669 I've disliked the whole "czar system" ever since the first one I remember, who was (I think) a drug czar. Dems or Reps, doesn't matter. It's still unConstitutional. I’ve disliked the whole “czar system” ever since the first one I remember, who was (I think) a drug czar. Dems or Reps, doesn’t matter. It’s still unConstitutional.

]]> By: petefrt http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/09/dem-rep-time-to-get-rid-of-the-czars/comment-page-1/#comment-2680598 petefrt Wed, 09 Sep 2009 22:25:47 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=65049#comment-2680598 Other presidents have named czars, but only a few at a time to focus attention on special probems and emergencies. This prez is using them massively and systematically with the intent of constructing a shadow government beyond the reach of Constitutional Congressional review; viz, to evade the Constitution. That's the diff. Other presidents have named czars, but only a few at a time to focus attention on special probems and emergencies. This prez is using them massively and systematically with the intent of constructing a shadow government beyond the reach of Constitutional Congressional review; viz, to evade the Constitution. That’s the diff.

]]> By: petefrt http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/09/dem-rep-time-to-get-rid-of-the-czars/comment-page-1/#comment-2680568 petefrt Wed, 09 Sep 2009 22:20:14 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=65049#comment-2680568 <blockquote>Good news, all. Keep it up!!! Diane on September 9, 2009 at 4:51 PM</blockquote> Yep, this may be the mouth of the river that leads to impeachment.

Good news, all. Keep it up!!!

Diane on September 9, 2009 at 4:51 PM

Yep, this may be the mouth of the river that leads to impeachment.

]]> By: viviliberoomuori http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/09/dem-rep-time-to-get-rid-of-the-czars/comment-page-1/#comment-2680546 viviliberoomuori Wed, 09 Sep 2009 22:15:11 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=65049#comment-2680546 those that point out that BOOOSH had 20+ czars point out something that most of us have been saying... It's not a single party that we're pissed about, it's the way the entire gov't has morphed into something that doesn't even closely resemble the Founding Father's initial designs. This gov't hasn't been for the people since the 30's (with the exception of Reagan, for the most part) from the great society to the new deal, we have sat on our duffs, letting our complacency about our freedoms cause those same freedoms to slowly be stripped from us. I, for one, am PROUD to live in the "LIVE FREE OR DIE" state. However overrun by liberal mass-hole transplants we are in the south, a great many still believe in our state's founding principles. those that point out that BOOOSH had 20+ czars point out something that most of us have been saying…
It’s not a single party that we’re pissed about, it’s the way the entire gov’t has morphed into something that doesn’t even closely resemble the Founding Father’s initial designs. This gov’t hasn’t been for the people since the 30′s (with the exception of Reagan, for the most part)
from the great society to the new deal, we have sat on our duffs, letting our complacency about our freedoms cause those same freedoms to slowly be stripped from us.
I, for one, am PROUD to live in the “LIVE FREE OR DIE” state. However overrun by liberal mass-hole transplants we are in the south, a great many still believe in our state’s founding principles.

]]> By: Bambi http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/09/dem-rep-time-to-get-rid-of-the-czars/comment-page-1/#comment-2680528 Bambi Wed, 09 Sep 2009 22:12:25 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=65049#comment-2680528 Who the heck cares who did it first? It needs to be stopped because we finally see what evil can be wrought when an unscrupulous president puts all these soros people in the white house without accountability! Who the heck cares who did it first? It needs to be stopped because we finally see what evil can be wrought when an unscrupulous president puts all these soros people in the white house without accountability!

]]> By: Ronnie http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/09/dem-rep-time-to-get-rid-of-the-czars/comment-page-1/#comment-2680523 Ronnie Wed, 09 Sep 2009 22:11:09 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=65049#comment-2680523 Wikipedia actually lists the ASSISTANT Secretary of Health And Human Services as a czar. Oh no! Save us from the unaccountable assistants! I think we need a wikipedia czar. Wikipedia actually lists the ASSISTANT Secretary of Health And Human Services as a czar. Oh no! Save us from the unaccountable assistants! I think we need a wikipedia czar.

]]> By: agmartin http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/09/dem-rep-time-to-get-rid-of-the-czars/comment-page-1/#comment-2680514 agmartin Wed, 09 Sep 2009 22:08:54 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=65049#comment-2680514 <blockquote>Boren voted for Porkulus, which is about all thus far identifying him as a Democrat.</blockquote> Come to the dark side Boren We have cookies

Boren voted for Porkulus, which is about all thus far identifying him as a Democrat.

Come to the dark side Boren

We have cookies

]]> By: agmartin http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/09/dem-rep-time-to-get-rid-of-the-czars/comment-page-1/#comment-2680497 agmartin Wed, 09 Sep 2009 22:06:19 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=65049#comment-2680497 <blockquote> Didn’t George W. Bush have like 25+ czars as well? Is that different? Not to excuse Obama’s gang of criminals. The Dean on September 9, 2009 at 4:25 PM Bush had 4 czars * National Intelligence Czar John D. Negroponte: 4/21/2005 Mike McConnell: 2/13/2007 * Cybersecurity Czar Rod Beckstram: 3/7/2008 * AIDS Czar Scott Evertz: 4/9/2001 Dr. Joseph O’Neill: 7/19/2002 * Drug Czar John Walters: 12/7/2001 Sugarbuzz on September 9, 2009 at 4:32 PM</blockquote> You left out Dick Cheney: Everything Czar /lib

Didn’t George W. Bush have like 25+ czars as well? Is that different? Not to excuse Obama’s gang of criminals.
The Dean on September 9, 2009 at 4:25 PM

Bush had 4 czars

* National Intelligence Czar
John D. Negroponte: 4/21/2005
Mike McConnell: 2/13/2007

* Cybersecurity Czar
Rod Beckstram: 3/7/2008

* AIDS Czar
Scott Evertz: 4/9/2001
Dr. Joseph O’Neill: 7/19/2002

* Drug Czar
John Walters: 12/7/2001

Sugarbuzz on September 9, 2009 at 4:32 PM

You left out Dick Cheney:
Everything Czar

/lib

]]> By: JellyToast http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/09/dem-rep-time-to-get-rid-of-the-czars/comment-page-1/#comment-2680425 JellyToast Wed, 09 Sep 2009 21:54:39 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=65049#comment-2680425 Give the man credit! This congress needs to understand it too is in the cross hairs. A shadow government has only one purpose and that is to replace the one it hides from. Give the man credit!
This congress needs to understand it too is in the cross hairs.
A shadow government has only one purpose and that is to replace the one it hides from.

]]> By: Ronnie http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/09/dem-rep-time-to-get-rid-of-the-czars/comment-page-1/#comment-2680400 Ronnie Wed, 09 Sep 2009 21:50:05 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=65049#comment-2680400 <blockquote>I’d rather throw them out, but it’s less likely to happen because Democrats have the opening that they are just following precedent. The Dean on September 9, 2009 at 5:30 PM</blockquote> Repeating your wiki-lie does not make it a fact.

I’d rather throw them out, but it’s less likely to happen because Democrats have the opening that they are just following precedent.

The Dean on September 9, 2009 at 5:30 PM

Repeating your wiki-lie does not make it a fact.

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]]> By: Johan Klaus http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/09/dem-rep-time-to-get-rid-of-the-czars/comment-page-1/#comment-2680391 Johan Klaus Wed, 09 Sep 2009 21:47:52 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=65049#comment-2680391 Fortunately, not all dems are communist/socialist. Fortunately, not all dems are communist/socialist.

]]> By: The Dean http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/09/dem-rep-time-to-get-rid-of-the-czars/comment-page-1/#comment-2680282 The Dean Wed, 09 Sep 2009 21:30:57 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=65049#comment-2680282 <blockquote>Are you saying that czars are good or are bad? If they are bad, better late than never in throwing them out, wouldn’t you say? unclesmrgol on September 9, 2009 at 5:04 PM</blockquote> I'd rather throw them out, but it's less likely to happen because Democrats have the opening that they are just following precedent.

Are you saying that czars are good or are bad? If they are bad, better late than never in throwing them out, wouldn’t you say?

unclesmrgol on September 9, 2009 at 5:04 PM

I’d rather throw them out, but it’s less likely to happen because Democrats have the opening that they are just following precedent.

]]> By: percysunshine http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/09/dem-rep-time-to-get-rid-of-the-czars/comment-page-1/#comment-2680241 percysunshine Wed, 09 Sep 2009 21:23:24 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=65049#comment-2680241 Sour grapes. When the stimulus bill was enacted into law, it gave the executive branch of government the authority to spend the money. The horse is out of the barn. No comebacks allowed. Sour grapes. When the stimulus bill was enacted into law, it gave the executive branch of government the authority to spend the money.

The horse is out of the barn. No comebacks allowed.

]]> By: darwin http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/09/dem-rep-time-to-get-rid-of-the-czars/comment-page-1/#comment-2680224 darwin Wed, 09 Sep 2009 21:19:08 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=65049#comment-2680224 Why is this guy a democrat? Why is this guy a democrat?

]]> By: Filecchio http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/09/dem-rep-time-to-get-rid-of-the-czars/comment-page-1/#comment-2680221 Filecchio Wed, 09 Sep 2009 21:18:03 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=65049#comment-2680221 <blockquote>to ensure that future presidents don’t make themselves into Hugo Chavez-style tinpot dictators. " I'm seriously worried about the <strong>current</strong> President doing exactly that.</blockquote>

to ensure that future presidents don’t make themselves into Hugo Chavez-style tinpot dictators. ”

I’m seriously worried about the current President doing exactly that.

]]> By: HondaV65 http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/09/dem-rep-time-to-get-rid-of-the-czars/comment-page-1/#comment-2680210 HondaV65 Wed, 09 Sep 2009 21:13:35 +0000 http://hotair.com/?p=65049#comment-2680210 <blockquote>Tom_Shipley on September 9, 2009 at 5:07 PM</blockquote> LOL - you're forgiven for questioning our sincerity on this topic - but what about a very prominent Democrat's opinion? Hmmmm .... <blockquote>"As presidential assistants and advisers, these White House staffers are not accountable for their actions to the Congress, to cabinet officials, and to virtually anyone but the president," Byrd wrote. "They rarely testify before congressional committees, and often shield the information and decision-making process behind the assertion of executive privilege. In too many instances, White House staff have been allowed to inhibit openness and transparency, and reduce accountability." The West Virginia Democrat on Wednesday asked Obama to "consider the following: that assertions of executive privilege will be made only by the president, or with the president's specific approval; that senior White House personnel will be limited from exercising authority over any person, any program, and any funding within the statutory responsibility of a Senate-confirmed department or agency head; that the president will be responsible for resolving any disagreement between a Senate-confirmed agency or department head and White House staff; and that the lines of authority and responsibility in the administration will be transparent and open to the American public."</blockquote>

Tom_Shipley on September 9, 2009 at 5:07 PM

LOL – you’re forgiven for questioning our sincerity on this topic – but what about a very prominent Democrat’s opinion? Hmmmm ….

“As presidential assistants and advisers, these White House staffers are not accountable for their actions to the Congress, to cabinet officials, and to virtually anyone but the president,” Byrd wrote. “They rarely testify before congressional committees, and often shield the information and decision-making process behind the assertion of executive privilege. In too many instances, White House staff have been allowed to inhibit openness and transparency, and reduce accountability.”
The West Virginia Democrat on Wednesday asked Obama to “consider the following: that assertions of executive privilege will be made only by the president, or with the president’s specific approval; that senior White House personnel will be limited from exercising authority over any person, any program, and any funding within the statutory responsibility of a Senate-confirmed department or agency head; that the president will be responsible for resolving any disagreement between a Senate-confirmed agency or department head and White House staff; and that the lines of authority and responsibility in the administration will be transparent and open to the American public.”

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