AP: 52% disapprove of Obama on health care; Update: More from poll internals
posted at 12:55 pm on September 9, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
Barack Obama will address a joint session of Congress this evening in an attempt to rescue his health-care overhaul, but he will face a much more skeptical audience with the voters. After all, Democrats have wide majorities in Congress, but Obama now has a majority of the electorate opposing him on health care, according to the AP:
Public disapproval of President Barack Obama’s handling of health care has jumped to 52 percent, according to an Associated Press-GfK poll released hours before he makes his case for overhaul in a prime-time address to Congress.
With his health revamp moving slowly and unemployment edging ever higher, Obama’s overall approval rating has also suffered a blow. The survey showed that 49 percent now disapprove of how he is handling his job as president, up from 42 percent who disapproved in July.
The grade people give Obama on health care also has worsened since July, when just 43 percent disapproved of his work on the issue.
But what about the proposals already in Congress? Voters oppose them as well, by a wide margin:
Forty-nine percent say they oppose the health overhaul plans being considered by Congress, compared to just 34 percent who favor them.
That’s not the limit of the bad news, either. Obama’s marks on the economy and on the deficit have suffered big blows, with majorities of 52% and 56% disapproving, respectively. On taxes, 52% disapprove as well, perhaps setting the stage for a real meltdown when cap-and-trade hits the Senate floor later this month.
Worst of all, the AP survey took place among American adults, not registered or likely voters. That sampling technique usually produces the most sympathy for liberal policies and politicians. If American adults have majorities opposed to Obama on these issues, the more predictive surveys of registered and likely voters will show more erosion and greater political danger for Democrats.
It’s safe to say the honeymoon is over, and that Americans have begun realizing that Obama is both more radical and far less competent than his presidential campaign projected.
Update: Interesting internals from the AP poll, including overall approval rating among adults being at 50%, with 49% disapproving. Strongly disapproving beats strongly approving by 11 points, 35%-24%. Obama has lost five points in six weeks on the overall approval number, and the gap closed from 13 points (55%-42%) to one point in that time.
Congressional disapproval has jumped six points to 69% in the last six weeks, and 14 points since the end of May, when ObamaCare became a priority. Only 28% approve, and only 3% strongly approve.
Obama’s internals on issues look very bad indeed. On economics, Obama’s disapproval is 52% over 44% approval — but those strongly disapproving are at 41%, compared to 20% strongly approving. That is a 12-point shift in six weeks, with the overall gap sinking 14 points in that period. On health care, it’s even worse. Obama has lost 19 points in the last six weeks on the overall approval gap.
On taxes, Obama now trails by a whopping 22 points, 50% disapproving against only 38% approving.
This is a meltdown, which makes the speech tonight a Hail Mary. His presidency is collapsing in terms of mandate, and this is among adults, not registered or likely voters. (via Geoff A)
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And let’s not forget the overwhelming applause from 1/2 the room as The One raises his head and sticks out his chin, that should convince the unwashed masses.
NickelAndDime on September 9, 2009 at 1:34 PM
That’s insane. If he really goes out there and regurgitates the same talking points, he’s driving the final nail in the coffin of his one-term Presidency.
This is not the 2008 campaign where he can go from one stop to the next and read the same words off a teleprompter to adoring crowds. If he wants Americans to side with him on a government takeover of 1/6 of the economy, he better have damn good reasons why. And making false promises won’t work after the failure of Porkulus.
Doughboy on September 9, 2009 at 1:34 PM
I have no interest in what this guy has to say because nothing he says means a damn thing.
The guy ran on being post-partisan, while he lied about and slandered President Bush, which he’s continued to this day.
His White House and his Democrat Party continually slander and lie about people who don’t agree with health care policies and he does nothing to stop him.
He ran on being a fiscal conservative and maintains that he is to this day, yet rammed through a trillion dollar “stimulus” package which by any reasonable measure, has completely crapped the bed and should be repealed.
He continually uses carefully chosen weasel words to make his arguments, which leave him enough wiggle room to do a 180 at any given point and still say he hasn’t changed position.
Barack Obama is a fraud and his speeches are an insult to our intelligence.
Once a man has established himself as counterfeit, what’s the point of listening to a word he says?
NoDonkey on September 9, 2009 at 1:35 PM
Did Ellison threaten to beat you harder than he beat his wife?
Bishop on September 9, 2009 at 1:36 PM
Racist!
/s
scalleywag on September 9, 2009 at 1:31 PM
HAHA, I am not a racist….I dislike everyone equally. :)
milwife88 on September 9, 2009 at 1:36 PM
The mainstream media (The Washington Post, The New York Times, MSNBC, CNN, ABC, CBS, etc.etc.) are pathetically reporting with Obama optimism. They are valiantly pulling on their “dead horse” and trying to drag it across the finish line. Poor, pitiful media dolts.
rplat on September 9, 2009 at 1:37 PM
Over-Under on Pelosi jumping up and down to clap:
745 times.
Odie1941 on September 9, 2009 at 1:37 PM
HomeoftheBrave at 1:06:
Agree completely with your first 5 points. Your point 6 depends on our remaining steadfast in our opposition for another 14 months. We are likely to see the radical left spend like never before to prevent your point 6 from happening. Also during those 14 months we are likely to see the Obama radicals in the FCC take administrative steps toward silencing right side radio. We are headed into a major storm.
GaltBlvnAtty on September 9, 2009 at 1:38 PM
No he basically lectured me that I don’t know what’s good for me. Did that on Cap and Trade too.
Haaaaate him but it is going to take a freaking millionaire to saturate the airwaves to get him dislodged. Did I mention haaaaate.
gophergirl on September 9, 2009 at 1:38 PM
It all depends on 2010. If we get a GOP Congress who will listen to us and repeal the bills, we still have a chance.
If not, then yes, secession is the next step.
atheling on September 9, 2009 at 1:41 PM
And San Fran Nan acting like a jacka$$ sitting right in back of him bouncing up and down in her seat.
I can’t wait/
Knucklehead on September 9, 2009 at 1:42 PM
Knucklehead on September 9, 2009 at 1:42 PM
We need to replace Pelosi with a bobble-head doll, that’s all this dingbat jackass geriatric hippie does, nod to any stupid leftwing idea that comes down the pike.
NoDonkey on September 9, 2009 at 1:44 PM
It wasn’t the polarizing hideously deformed Speaker of the House, it was the method. She essentially shut the GOP out of the negotions and sat down with Waxman and other radicals to codify decades of leftist frustration at not getting single-payer healthcare instituted. The result was and is an over-reaching proposal that completely ignores such concerns of conservatives and moderated. For example the Waxman bill provides for federally funded abortions (bypassing the Hyde Amendment by a convoluted manner that co-mingles public and private dollars). The public option is present in some form even if it is called co-ops or other euphamisms. Most importantly it is not possible to acheive without higher taxes and/or less services to the vast number of Americans who are happy with the coverage they are getting now.
Bottom line, HR3200 is irresponsible legislation that only a socialist could love or support. If the filthy liar in the White House is serious about reform, he needs to toss out the proposals on the table and go back to square one- this time making the effort bipartisan, reasonable in scope, realistic in costs, and inclusive of tort reform.
highhopes on September 9, 2009 at 1:45 PM
Even if the GOP got majorities in House and Senate (not going to happen, but even if), bills to repeal this junk would just be vetoed by the Traitor-in-Chief. Sadly, once this stuff is passed, that’s it.
Keep in mind, it might not even have to be a willful secession, as these policies will probably lead to the disintegration of the federal government, anyway. Without strong economic growth, this government is doomed, and the dems are working to kill growth while building up huge obligations. That will not go on for very long, at all.
progressoverpeace on September 9, 2009 at 1:49 PM
To Barry, this is just more proof of how desperately his “leadership” is needed, in convincing the majority that they actually want something that they really don’t.
One Against Many on September 9, 2009 at 1:50 PM
I’ve just been subjected to this on my facebook page:
“Dennis Kucinich, 1 of only 2 congressman not on the take, wants to establish health care as a civil right. HR676 would provide us the same coverage that the rest of the top 40 industrial countries have. Petition is here: http://healthcare.kucinich.us…/petition Read the details for yourself. A single payor system woud save 60% on what’s currently spent on health care in the US.”
MUST.RESIST.URGE.TO.EVEN.BOTHER.
hollygolightly on September 9, 2009 at 1:51 PM
I love this.
DrStock on September 9, 2009 at 1:52 PM
I’m not sure I would declare him down and out if he does the predictable tonight but he isn’t going to win the day by doing so. He’s acting as if the public doesn’t understand his message when they do in greater detail than he does! He can’t get away with claiming that the whole thing is deficit neutral paid for by “eliminating inefficiencies” because the public knows this is a bunch of hokum (not even the idiot Obama shills here defend that claim).
If the whole purpose of tonight’s speech is to sway the public, the filthy liar in the White House cannot do so with the same old talking points that have not convinced the public to date. Exhorting the Congress to pass his scheme or thinking that his speech will cause the public to rise up and demand that Congress immediately seize healthcare from the evil private insurance companies are pipe dreams from whatever Robert Gibbs is smoking.
The only effective way is for the filthy liar to get up and declare the debate hopelessly gone awry to the point it is time to hit the reset button.
highhopes on September 9, 2009 at 1:54 PM
Bbbbbbbuttttt…..Cheney, Halliburton, Fox News, Rupert Murdoch, Illegal War, Booooooooooossssssssssshhhhhhhhhh…
matt126 on September 9, 2009 at 1:55 PM
You may be way off here Odie. I’m hoping Pelosi will sit there steaming in her own pot of radical stew brewed by her left-wing nutcases looking to change the word “affordable” to another government entitlement paid for by taxpayers.
My guess is she may stand up maybe five times if Obama exits
hisher public option plan.Rovin on September 9, 2009 at 1:55 PM
Over-Under on Pelosi jumping up and down to clap:
745 times.
Odie1941 on September 9, 2009 at 1:37 PM
she will be jumping up and clapping like a trained seal.
matt126 on September 9, 2009 at 1:56 PM
Leave it to the socialist gnome to be even more radical than the filthy liar in the White House at a time when moderation is the only thing that will succeed. Whose the other honest Congressman? Bernie Sanders?
highhopes on September 9, 2009 at 1:56 PM
I’ll be on HULU tonight catching up with shows I’ve missed this past year. I have no interest in what Jimmy Carter II has to say.
jbh45 on September 9, 2009 at 2:00 PM
d1c – Keemo from Montana posted a petition on the weekend for a recall on Max Baucus. Have you seen it?
yoda on September 9, 2009 at 2:01 PM
Methinks there may be an error. 50 – 38 = 12, not 22. Could we clarify this, please?
Steve Z on September 9, 2009 at 2:02 PM
sink baby sink!!!
moonbatkiller on September 9, 2009 at 2:06 PM
Obama to announce new “public toilets” option tonight
faraway on September 9, 2009 at 2:07 PM
I wanted to ask, but didn’t want to get into it. I think I may have to ask who the other one is though just b/c I’m too curious not to.
hollygolightly on September 9, 2009 at 2:07 PM
At your service. Get em while their hot!!!
Knucklehead on September 9, 2009 at 2:08 PM
Knucklehead on September 9, 2009 at 2:08 PM
That bobble head doll looks more like an actual human being than Nancy girl does.
It would also make a better Speaker of the House.
Elect the doll, reject the gall.
NoDonkey on September 9, 2009 at 2:11 PM
A real Hail Mary, because who is going to waste their time watching this speech who is unconvinced?
How many of these speeches of his have people watched in the last eighteen months?
Now that they’re finally figuring out that nothing he says really means anything, why would they waste more time watching Barry read off of a teleprompter?
NoDonkey on September 9, 2009 at 2:14 PM
I am beginning to really wonder if BO is creating chaos on purpose so as to declare martial law.
I can think of no other reason why anyone would want to cripple our economy even further.
I am just-WOW.
Badger40 on September 9, 2009 at 2:17 PM
Why do people slow down to stare at gory auto accidents?
This is one of those situations where the filthy liar in the White House had better “bring it” if he wants to change the course of the debate, which is working against him. That means having something new to say instead of telling us the lie that if we like our doctor there is nothing that will change that.
My guess is that he will have nothing new to say.
highhopes on September 9, 2009 at 2:24 PM
I bet barry will find a great way to blame bush for his bad poll numbers.
This presidency is in utter collapse and the saving grace is that we can get a new president. Hell, I could do that job.
cut taxes
close the borders
protect our interests
get government out of the way of the people
then–vacation
ted c on September 9, 2009 at 2:24 PM
Jimma Carter on steroids.
farright on September 9, 2009 at 2:24 PM
Rush was reading the max baucus version.DANGEROUS!
ohiobabe on September 9, 2009 at 2:25 PM
Because those involved are strangers.
I don’t need to watch a slow motion collision involving my country.
I knew this guy was a disaster on wheels long before he became president, it gives me no pleasure watching the inevitable ensuing carnage.
My “Hail Mary” hope is that he’s seen the light and uses tonight’s forum to resign his office.
NoDonkey on September 9, 2009 at 2:27 PM
Pure incompetence comes to mind but what I think it is really the normal socialist playbook tactic of worrying about fixing the damage after you’ve destroyed that which stands in your way. The filthy liar in the White House doesn’t want healthcare reform. He wants to seize the portion of the economy represented by that industry and “for our own good” reapportion the resources for his radical agenda. There will be no more room to fight against embryonic stem cell research, or federally funded abortions, or death panels once the government controls the dollars behind such efforts. HR3200 is simply a means to the real goal of replacing healthcare with single-payer deathcare.
highhopes on September 9, 2009 at 2:29 PM
I’d settle for TOTUS getting cranky and displaying his propaganda in Japanese.
highhopes on September 9, 2009 at 2:30 PM
I agree. His arrogant narcissim coupled with his disdain for the American people, combine to give him the idea that all he needs is more face time to sell this turd sandwich and everything will work out fine.
NoDonkey on September 9, 2009 at 2:31 PM
Then just like the old vaudeville routines, the hook comes out from the side stage and drags him away.
NoDonkey on September 9, 2009 at 2:33 PM
Be prepared.The media will be praising him up the wazzu after this farce of a speech which astounds me b/cause they are going to get hit if this passes too but of course they think they are excluded.
ohiobabe on September 9, 2009 at 2:34 PM
Since Obama’s speech is to Congress, not to the American people who might not agree with him, within the Capitol building Obama will get rousing applause from liberal Democrats, while Republicans will probably “respect the office of the President” and simply not applaud, without booing or interrupting, as people at townhall meetings did.
A well-delivered speech in a relatively friendly hall might sway a few Blue Dogs who may be wavering, if the memory of angry protesters at home has faded from their minds, or they hid from their electorate and never held a townhall meeting. No doubt that the TOTUS will be resplendent in all its glory, expertly handled by Obam-ochhio’s puppetmaster, further adding to the feel-good atmosphere in the Capitol, far from the crowds of protesters in flyover country.
ObamaCare isn’t “toast” YET. The true test will come in the next few weeks, after Obama’s leg-tingling voice has left the Capitol, and wavering Dems are contemplating a vote for or against, comparing their memories of one magical evening in the Capitol with those angry people whose votes they will need in 2010, trying to answer the question, “Whom do you serve?”
Tonight’s speech will be like that of Saruman in the Lord of the Rings, whose voice charmed the ignorant masses to follow evil, from the tower of Orthanc.
In the Lord of the Rings, his power was overthrown by the words of greater wisdom from Gandalf, who gave strength to the doddering king of Rohan to resist Saruman’s threats and charms.
We don’t have a wizard like Gandalf to lead us, so that the people of America, like that of Rohan, must raise themselves in fierce resistance. Gird your loins, the Battle of Helm’s Deep is upon us.
Steve Z on September 9, 2009 at 2:37 PM
ccording to Jake Tapper, there is nothing new in Obama’s speech.
If this is true… Obama is toast. Healthcare reform will die. Cap-n-Tax will die. Everything will die and he is officially relegated to being a Jimmy Carter.
Enoxo on September 9, 2009 at 12:59 PM
I wonder if this is the speech he will use or there is another.
ohiobabe on September 9, 2009 at 2:44 PM
Math is hard.
/jk Ed
SittingDeadRed on September 9, 2009 at 2:45 PM
Mary Matalin
Schadenfreude on September 9, 2009 at 2:51 PM
I’m waiting for the anti-Sally Field moment of clarity: You hate me, you really hate me!
There really will be a point when this creature understands that the world is not standing rapt in adoration at whatever he reads off of TOTUS. It will be a humbling experience for a man with no humility and a bruising blow to his ego.
highhopes on September 9, 2009 at 2:55 PM
Knew I shouldn’t have asked, here’s the response:
“That would be cosponsor john conyers. Lol ok he may b on the take elsewhere idk but not frm the medical lobby. Take a look at whose been stalling all the healthcare bill so far, theyr all on the lobbyists payroll, big-time. But no matter cos HR676 is the only bill that shldv ever been written! Seriously, read it…”
Isn’t Conyers the one who’s pushing for reparations and whose wife just pleaded guilty on federal bribery charges? And didn’t ole Denny claim to see a UFO while at the same time questioning Bush’s mental health?
hollygolightly on September 9, 2009 at 2:55 PM
Congress is a “Chernobyl on the Potomac,” with The Won in charge of managing the meltdown, and we can’t hit the SCRAM button for another year yet. Great. Just, great.
A tip to the Republicans: The ObamaCare bill is set to start demanding payment into it in 2011, and isn’t set to start paying out until 2013 (and gee, why do you think they picked those dates? If you sorry lot in the RNC can’t figure it out then you’re not worth voting for!). I suggest that if ObamaCare does somehow manage to pass and get signed into law, you run in 2010 on a platform of repealing it, as swiftly as possible. And returning the money taken in taxes for it to those who paid for it, while you’re at it!
Blacksmith on September 9, 2009 at 3:01 PM
I don’t think his “leg tingling” oratory gifts will work this time. The bloom is off the rose. I think a lot of independents and even some gullible Republicans have learned a valuable lesson about supporting a politician simply because he delivers a great speech and looks good on TV. The far left radical policies aren’t winning him any fans either.
If he doesn’t deliver some substance tonight, Obamacare is finished.
Doughboy on September 9, 2009 at 3:03 PM
I saw one analysis that said much of this will be forgotten and the poll numbers will rise if the filthy liar in the White House is able to sign something called “healthcare reform” which is still probable before the end of the year. I’m not so sure that this is an accurate assessment.
The negative poll numbers and the anger is not limited to just healthcare reform. It goes well beyond that and ramming through yet another trillion dollar IOU on a strictly party line vote is not going to help close the divide that has developed. This isn’t just about healthcare or the economy. It is a much bigger discontent with government.
As an aside, the absolute quote of the day I saw was somebody who claimed that all this anti-healthcare opposition was really nothing more than whites still upset that a black man is President! Really.
highhopes on September 9, 2009 at 3:04 PM
The one and the same (and not too far off my guess of Bernie Sanders).
highhopes on September 9, 2009 at 3:06 PM
Why does he still need TOTUS?
He should have memorized his (speech)lies by this time.
dragondrop on September 9, 2009 at 3:09 PM
I truly luv to listen to Rush…
Fer instances; today he was into his total, “Sid Vicious”, beagle bugle and with a plaintive, yet resonant, cry..!
Yah just gotta luv Rush…!
He managed to diss the President in every conceivable, imaginable, shape, situation, manner and form.
He called Obama every kinda liar and “bee-esser” in the book; over and over, infinitum…!
Yah really, really… gotta luv the guy when he gets on a roll like that…!
You ‘dah babe’…
We luv yah…!
Geezer on September 9, 2009 at 3:17 PM
It’s so weird to call it the “public option” when so much of the public is against it.
Bright lights they’re not.
Schadenfreude on September 9, 2009 at 3:20 PM
All your bill are belong to us.
You have no chance to survive make your time.
Ha ha ha ha ha!
Mary in LA on September 9, 2009 at 3:24 PM
Schadenfreude on September 9, 2009 at 3:32 PM
Schadenfreude at 3:32
I sure hope you are correct. Obama and Rahm may still think that this is a crisis that will work in their favor. Let’s see if Obama claims tonight that Obamacare will help fix our economy. Someone will have to write about it, however, since I cannot stand to watch or listen to him.
GaltBlvnAtty on September 9, 2009 at 3:39 PM
Yes, “public option” really means “government”, and the public is against it. This is just another of their lies and intentional mislabelling.
GaltBlvnAtty on September 9, 2009 at 3:41 PM
So there is some hope…?
Let’s hope…we won’t be additionally burdened by socialized medicine[s] like Medi-Care for the masses and VA care for the Veterans…?
Yah just gotta hope…!
“HOPE and PRAY”…!
Not…“hope and change”…!
KEEP the Faith…!
Geezer on September 9, 2009 at 3:43 PM
The Great Hussein is going down in flames.
Pass the marshmallows.
HornetSting on September 9, 2009 at 4:01 PM
HornetSting on September 9, 2009 at 4:01 PM
Pass the popcorn, Gorgeous. I hope we’re going to have a live thread tonight.
kingsjester on September 9, 2009 at 4:04 PM
Yeah, I might need to rearrange my sock drawer…. :)
HornetSting on September 9, 2009 at 4:07 PM
“Whom the gods would destroy they first make proud.”
The gods did a helluva job with this one.
NoDonkey on September 9, 2009 at 4:07 PM
Now I might actually support that! With ACORN recruits to keep them sparkling clean…
Rosmerta on September 9, 2009 at 4:17 PM
I refuse to watch this charade tonight. I don’t think there is anything he can say at this point that will matter all that much. People just do not trust the man.
Terrye on September 9, 2009 at 4:23 PM
TOTAL FAILURE!
This guy should sit in the Oval Office and speak directly to Americans. Not to a Congress that have the lowest approval ratings ever! This man is so arrogant and he has to have an audience to stand up and cheer etc..
Most Americans watching will hear… BLAH BLAH BLAH…
Much of the same.
I’ll be watching a 17 year old play Tennis on ESPN 2.
Atlanta Media Guy on September 9, 2009 at 4:29 PM
Good point. The last thing I want to see is that idiot grin of Skeletarette Pelosi and Night of the Living Dead Reid, in the background.
And really, I have better things to do tonight besides screaming “liar!” at my TV.
NoDonkey on September 9, 2009 at 4:33 PM
AMG at 4:29
You are right about what Obama should do, if he really cared what the people think. Obama believes that it is all about the politicians who will be in the room with him tonight. He just needs their votes. He does not care what the American people want.
GaltBlvnAtty on September 9, 2009 at 4:34 PM
Be sure to say THANKS to those old people in your family & neighborhood that voted for Dear Leader.Be sure to also say good bye to them because they’ll get SQUAT in health care due to age, the MORONS.
How’s thje HOPE & CHANGE working for you grandma!
Jeff from WI on September 9, 2009 at 4:38 PM
I wish someone would ask Obama in front of cameras if he thinks the people who are against his obamacare are doing it because they are racist. I can here it now “Uh um”. A “yes” would be so sweet. And a “no” would step on the MSM narrative.
Greed on September 9, 2009 at 4:40 PM
This level of disapproval now guarantees losses. People will not forget. The longer the Congressional level of approval remains in the 30′s or lower, the greater the certainty that the liberals will be completely swept from power in both the House and the Senate.
We must continue to focus on what unites us on the right and what the overwhelming majority of Americans dislike about liberal ideologues in Congress and those that go along with them.
Please keep your eyes on the prize. It’s not 2012 and defeating Obama. It’s 2010 and retaking Congress. That comes first. A successful national campaign in 2010, district by district, state by state, is the first step of our journey to seeing Morning in America again.
Loxodonta on September 9, 2009 at 4:49 PM
Cherry-picking polls doesn’t work here. Especially when you don’t provide a cite for your poll claim.
The most recent Gallup poll I found (done 6 days ago) showed only 37% of those responding said the war was a mistake.
Del Dolemonte on September 9, 2009 at 4:51 PM
BTW the demos on this poll are very interesting…in January, al-AP was sampling 20% more Democrats than Republicans. Now it’s only a 6% gap.
Del Dolemonte on September 9, 2009 at 4:52 PM
From: morningbell@heritage.org: ObamaScare;
Been saying this for months.
Cybergeezer on September 9, 2009 at 4:53 PM
If this were a private speech in the Rose Garden or the Oval Office, I’d be a little more worried. Obama still has plenty of shills who will fall over his every word.
But he will face thunderous applause tonight, and it will inflame his ego no matter what the polls show. The chin will jut up. He will get that ‘savior’ look on his face, and half the country will start gagging. Game over. In other words:
It’s the hubris, stupid.
Grace_is_sufficient on September 9, 2009 at 5:02 PM
Qtrs—Sep 09—C Wozniacki—M Oudin 7:00 PM ET
WOW… that [17 year olde] Ms Oudin [from Atlanta] is somethin’ else…!
Geezer on September 9, 2009 at 5:02 PM
From Waterloo to Lame Duck.
TN Mom on September 9, 2009 at 5:03 PM
He’s too inexperienced to go it alone; Obama requires the stage setting, as he has from the beginning (Greek Collums) and the President-Elect sign he carried around right up until inauguration.
Oh, and I hear he will talk about letters he receives from sick people who have insurance problems, wonder if he will read any letters from people who oppose his healthcare reform??
TN Mom on September 9, 2009 at 5:10 PM
By “forcefully” does he mean “I plan to call out the national guard and SEIU thugs to make sure it gets passed?”
Daggett on September 9, 2009 at 5:38 PM
“One lady in Connecticut, New Jersey, the great 53rd state of the union, wrote in to tell me she went to the doctor for an acne problem. The doctor could have given her some pimple cream. Instead, he knocked her out with a breathalyzer and then amputated everything except her left big toe, just so he could collect $15 million from the insurance company.”
Daggett on September 9, 2009 at 5:42 PM
You dah babe…!
Exactly…!
Keep listenin’ to Rush too!
He’s got the “right handle” on this whole revoltin’ situation…!
Geezer on September 9, 2009 at 5:43 PM
I have been trying to think of what the Big O could possibly say that would be new, different, credible, convincing, hopey-changey… Can’t think of a single thing.
Is he putting himself center stage to look ineffective and incompetent? Making a big production in order to say the same old stuff with minor word changes seems more risk than it’s worth, from his perspective. I’d anticipate lots of Dems who are perplexed by recent events to watch, hoping for reassurance. After all this, how can he pull them together with rhetoric? Is there any other result that would seem like a positive outcome that he could expect? Why do this at all?
jodetoad on September 9, 2009 at 5:53 PM
Does anyone else think that there’ll be some little kid with cancer sitting next to Michelle Nobama during this charade? There’s no way the Dims can make their case on healthcare with out using a prop. I’m guessing….Jimmy. Six years old. Bald from chemo. Worried single mom sitting next to him. Doesn’t have health insurance. Do it for him. Please. Clap clap clap…
joejm65 on September 9, 2009 at 6:00 PM
+99.999999
Geochelone on September 9, 2009 at 6:02 PM
Daggett on September 9, 2009 at 5:42 PM
Yea! And he sold all the vital organs to Iran!
Cybergeezer on September 9, 2009 at 6:04 PM
Well, yah, my thoughts also. Everything the man is doing will create damage and come level of chaos. I cannot buy he and his cadre are so dumb all this poop is due to ineptitude. NOBODY can be this inept without trying.
Creating total chaos is a long-used tactic of spreading La Revolucion. It’s what Che was supposed to do in South America, what the VC were doing in South Vietnam….Germany was in chaos when Adolf stepped in and brought order.
Will we be stronger when things get really crazy? I dunno. People are polarizing and getting beyond the talking stages. It isn’t just conservatives buying guns and ammo, I suspect.
Harry Schell on September 9, 2009 at 6:05 PM
Luv yah Jode…
Hey Jode…you weren’t the babe that hooked my babe when I was absent… were yeh…?
As the lyric song goes…
Geezer on September 9, 2009 at 6:08 PM
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Geochelone on September 9, 2009 at 6:11 PM
Hey all I said was…
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Geochelone on September 9, 2009 at 6:12 PM
Have you closed this fun thread…?
Geezer on September 9, 2009 at 6:33 PM
AfroLosers hair must be standing straight right now
CWforFreedom on September 9, 2009 at 6:43 PM
Are we havin’ any fun yet…?
Yah keep up yer hopes “swabbie”…!
Olde “green doggie” sends…!
Geezer on September 9, 2009 at 6:58 PM
I’ve been saying this for weeks… This is a bipartisan bill… Dumocrats & Republican hate this garbage that is being stuffed down our throats.
vulcannomad on September 9, 2009 at 7:05 PM
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