Video: Kilroy wasn’t here

posted at 9:30 am on September 8, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

Ohioans got a surprise visit from Rep. Mary Jo Kilroy (D) on Labor Day — although it turned out to be darned few Ohioans. Hourglass1941 wanted to document the Facts Not Fear rally held by ObamaCare advocates in Goodale Park in Columbus, and to her surprise, Kilroy made an unannounced visit to exhort the troops to victory. Laughably, considering the sparse crowd, Kilroy argued that vast majorities of Americans supported the ObamaCare effort and that she had the answers to the questions. Afterward, though, she seemed very uninterested in sharing them:

There’s been a lot of noise, and there’s been a lot of fear tactics. We also can see that when you really poll the people of this country, when they hear what this bill is, people are for it in large majorities. But we gotta keep getting the word out. We gotta make sure that the truth about the bill is not distorted, and that a lot of people who do because of all the noise, because of all the misstatements of fact, are getting confused about things, uh, that they are able to have their questions asked and answered, so that they can get the truth about the health-care bill.

Try diagramming that last sentence. The gist of her statement comes through, however, which is that people need to get their questions answered. Kilroy got the chance to demonstrate that after her appearance at the rally, as Hourglass1941 asked her questions. Does Kilroy engage her constituent and offer to answer her questions? Or does she do a Forrest Gump impersonation and try to get the hell away from the camera?

Kilroy attempts to toss a couple of quick answers over her shoulder, and those should be addressed. First, Kilroy was accurate, but not right, to claim that the bill excludes illegal immigrants from receiving health-care coverage; it’s in Section 246. However, the Congressional Research Service says that HR3200 has absolutely no enforcement capability to prevent it, and that Democrats defeated an amendment in committee that would have fixed that problem. Maybe Kilroy should have done a little more studying on that topic.

Second, section 152 is oddly written, and Kilroy’s answer on making discrimination illegal on “personal characteristics” is completely inadequate. Statutes that protect against gender discrimination explicitly mention gender — they don’t use the ambiguous “personal characteristics” phrase seen here:

SEC. 152. PROHIBITING DISCRIMINATION IN HEALTH CARE.

(a) In General- Except as otherwise explicitly permitted by this Act and by subsequent regulations consistent with this Act, all health care and related services (including insurance coverage and public health activities) covered by this Act shall be provided without regard to personal characteristics extraneous to the provision of high quality health care or related services.

What else could be “personal characteristics”? Obesity? Bad breath? A curious habit of not paying one’s bills? Cowardice while facing a constituent asking questions? The bill does not define the parameters of “personal characteristics,” which means that courts will give that the widest possible meaning, making the clause an absurdity.

Kilroy should run, all right — to the bill, to read it more thoroughly. After all, if she wants to set herself up as the font of enlightenment, she’d better be prepared to answer specific questions about this very bad bill.


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It is all so confusing. This should clarify the Dems position on health care!

sonnyspats1 on September 8, 2009 at 12:22 PM

Well, since she’s an elitist, she should be allowed to spoon feed anything to any of her idiot constituents, and they’re just supposed to make their minds a blank, open wide, and swallow it.

After all…we’re all complete morons, and of course, the only ones with any brains, are in D.C. *sigh*

capejasmine on September 8, 2009 at 12:28 PM

Whoever runs against this pathetic clown next year should use this as a campaign commercial. BillyGoatGruff on September 8, 2009 at 10:12 AM

Steve Stivers is going to run again. He lost, literally, by a few hundred votes last time around. The vote was hottly contested several months after the election. His chances are looking pretty damn good for next year.

flyawaybird on September 8, 2009 at 12:29 PM

As a teen I know always says…. ‘How Rude’

bbordwell on September 8, 2009 at 12:33 PM

You continue to make the same mistake regarding the coverage of illegal aliens in the bill.

Section 246 only prohibits illegal aliens from getting affordability credits. Read the language of the Bill: Section 246 only applies to this subtitle. This prohibition only applies to Subtitle C of Title II. Subtitle C only covers Affordability Credits. However, there is no verification method for determining whether someone is lawfully present. That was what the Heller Amendment would have done, but it was defeated along party lines. This was the CRS part that discussed “no enforcement provision.”

However, you are ignoring the other part of the CRS Report which states that illegal aliens will be covered under the Public Option. This fact is clear from the language of HR 3200. Subtitle B of Title II covers the Public Option. Nothing under Subtitle B prohibits coverage from illegal aliens. The Section 246 prohibition once again does not cover Subtitle B. It only applies to Subtitle C.

The fact that this mistake is made by a lot of people shows the ridiculous complexity of this bill. However, this is standard statutory interpretation, once again illustrating that attorneys wrote this bill in a way that would allow proponents to claim that illegal aliens would not be covered, while at the same time knowing full well that they would be covered.

Conservative in NOVA on September 8, 2009 at 12:36 PM

She won the last election by fewer than 2000 votes. Now she thinks she’ll be elected again with the help of

Presented by the Federal Election Commission
Committees Who Gave To This Candidate
KILROY, MARY JO

http://query.nictusa.com/cgi-bin/can_give/2009_H6OH15104

poplicola on September 8, 2009 at 12:39 PM

..wow! There have been IAAF T&F championship 200 meter heats with slower times than that sprint!

VoyskaPVO on September 8, 2009 at 12:40 PM

First, Kilroy was accurate, but not right, to claim that the bill excludes illegal immigrants from receiving health-care coverage; it’s in Section 246.

No, Kilroy was not accurate: Section 246 does NOT exclude illegal immigrants or anyone else from receiving health-care coverage!!!

The subject of Section 246 is “tax credits” (NOT “health-care coverage”), and illegal immigrants do not need “tax credits” because they do not pay taxes!!!! They are specifically exempted (Section 401) from health care taxes. So this section, complete with its phony title, is just a feint and a diversion by the leftists who wrote HR 3200.

There is absolutely NOTHING in HR3200 which prevents illegal aliens from receiving health care coverage. In fact, Section 152 prohibits considering their illegal status and requires that they be covered. And why do you suppose that all of the amendments offered to fix this have been defeated?

landlines on September 8, 2009 at 12:43 PM

My wife asks me to add that Kilroy squeaked into office on the coattails of Obama, voted in by all the stinky hippy students who voted straight ticket D. The recount dragged on for a long time too. She barely made it.

poplicola on September 8, 2009 at 12:49 PM

My wife asks me to add that Kilroy squeaked into office on the coattails of Obama, voted in by all the stinky hippy students who voted straight ticket D. The recount dragged on for a long time too. She barely made it.

poplicola on September 8, 2009 at 12:49 PM

Yeah, it’s usually Union and Madison Counties as well as Dublin and Hilliard that puts the 15th district rep into office, but you had people in the Columbus part of the district that may have come out to vote simply because of Obama and I’m sure ACORN was out and about because of the demographics of West Columbus (not black, but mainly poorer whites and latinos).

MobileVideoEngineer on September 8, 2009 at 1:02 PM

We also can see that when you really poll the people of this country, when they hear what this bill is, people are for it in large majorities.

Liar.

Mallard T. Drake on September 8, 2009 at 1:03 PM

Mary Jo Kilroy is my congresswoman (OH-15), and I can tell you that Steve Stivers will definetely beat her in 2010. I hope to help that effort by volunteering on his campaign. This is the same congresswoman who was too afraid to have a townhall, so she held a meeting over the telephone with her constituents, at least the several that could actually call in, as some (many) seemed to have technical problems (were republicans).

OhioBuckeye7 on September 8, 2009 at 1:15 PM

but you had people in the Columbus part of the district that may have come out to vote simply because of Obama and I’m sure ACORN was out and about because of the demographics of West Columbus (not black, but mainly poorer whites and latinos).

Judging by how close she she came in our fair 15th district last year, and based on the state of things now, I don’t expect her luck to continue next year.

flyawaybird on September 8, 2009 at 1:22 PM

OhioBuckeye7 on September 8, 2009 at 1:15 PM

Vote her out OhioBuckeye7…Mary Jo’s got to go!!!

yoda on September 8, 2009 at 1:33 PM

Yeah, run like the wind, you silly heifer.

Good Lord.

surrounded on September 8, 2009 at 1:33 PM

God, she’s stone ugly.

And every bit as stupid as she is ugly.

Not to mention that her political career is going to be over with the next election.

Ya kinda gotta feel sorry for her….. NOT!

UltimateBob on September 8, 2009 at 1:33 PM

She is a woman out standing in her field. All alone.

Steve Z on September 8, 2009 at 1:35 PM

Yet another example of why we need to throw out virtually everyone in Washington. These elitists pieces of shiite don’t remember who they work for.

TERM LIMITS NOW, PEOPLE!!!

RightWinged on September 8, 2009 at 1:57 PM

With the broad spectrum of elected idiots from Ohio making the news lately, I’ve come to the conclusion the state’s citizens shouldn’t be allowed to vote at all, along with the citizens of California, Illinois, Massachusetts, New York, Connecticut and Maine. That would cut the number of idiots in office by half. Maybe more.

bradley11 on September 8, 2009 at 9:35 AM

Got that right, Bradley. I live in Ohio and never vote for the idiot Dems who are currently in Washington, but obviously I’m in the minority.

GrannyDee on September 8, 2009 at 1:58 PM

I was trying to hear exactly what she said at 2:20. It sounded like she said “I’m not really interested in…” and then accused the reporter of not wanting to listen. She got asked by Video News reporter how she will pay for the ObamaCare at her Townhall meeting. Her answer was an embarrsingly unintelligible response. At one point she glances to an Aide for assistance, but is still unable to string together a complete coherent sentence.—> watch

Dollayo on September 8, 2009 at 2:06 PM

Striking resemblance to Cindy Sheehan.

Hening on September 8, 2009 at 2:22 PM

Methinks Mary Jo might benefit from a 12 step program.

Potfry on September 8, 2009 at 2:42 PM

I live in Rep. Kilroy’s District. I call her office and ask questions but never receive any real answers. The individuals who work in her office are as inept as she is. I can’t wait to go to the polls and cast a vote for her opposition. She must be voted out of office!!

ice princess on September 8, 2009 at 3:06 PM

What a pathetic piece of garbage.
Vote someone in who doesn’t think she is “above” the American people, and someone who actually knows what they are talking about and can voice it to their constituents.

Sterling Holobyte on September 8, 2009 at 3:34 PM

all, if she wants to set herself up as the font of enlightenment

Unfortunately, that’s my representative right there (I voted against her twice though). I know firsthand that the last thing you’ll ever mistaken Mary Jo Kilroy for is a font of enlightenment, well so long as you have any common sense.

jarodea on September 8, 2009 at 3:49 PM

Worthless.

Get rid of her.

Notice how Democrats in Ohio are abbreviated to D-OH

Black Adam on September 8, 2009 at 4:11 PM

So what?

Ohio gets absolutely ZERO SYMPATHY from me. They voted her in, and I don’t see her being submitted by name for recall, so obviously they like her. Just like when I hear one of these liberal clowns in my neck of the woods whine about “Governess Granholm”: same reaction. “You’re the jackass that voted for her, so you get to feel the misery too, dumbass.”

Virus-X on September 8, 2009 at 4:34 PM

We also can see that when you really poll the people of this country, when they hear what this bill is, people are for it in large majorities.

Hmm…sounds familiar.

“They’re not even within 100 miles of Baghdad. They are not in any place. They hold no place in Iraq. This is an illusion … they are trying to sell to the others an illusion.”

James on September 8, 2009 at 4:44 PM

With the broad spectrum of elected idiots from Ohio making the news lately, I’ve come to the conclusion the state’s citizens shouldn’t be allowed to vote at all, along with the citizens of California, Illinois, Massachusetts, New York, Connecticut and Maine. That would cut the number of idiots in office by half. Maybe more.

bradley11 on September 8, 2009 at 9:35 AM

I’m still torn over which state’s citizens are the dumbest–OH or PA? I think you’ve gotta toss MN in the running too because of the Franken debacle, sadly.

funky chicken on September 8, 2009 at 5:08 PM

If we can’t defeat this numbskull in 2010 we DESERVE the gulag.

Sapwolf on September 8, 2009 at 7:30 PM

Another Ohio politician pawned here..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9R7kQZkOKug

Ozprey on September 8, 2009 at 9:25 PM

I’m still torn over which state’s citizens are the dumbest–OH or PA? I think you’ve gotta toss MN in the running too because of the Franken debacle, sadly.

funky chicken on September 8, 2009 at 5:08 PM

Any state that you reside in is the dumbest. I can’t believe you still post here after all your $h*t talk about the place and people. Creep.

Blake on October 2, 2009 at 4:41 PM