Pelosi and Reid to Obama: We’ve got the votes to pass ObamaCare; Update: Snowe iffy?

posted at 8:21 pm on September 8, 2009 by Allahpundit

Didn’t Madam Speaker tell us this six weeks ago, shortly before the plug was pulled?

I’m skeptical.

The president told House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., that it is important for them to pass health care reform bills soon, the sources said.

Both leaders told the president that despite the difficult rough and tumble of the legislative process in the last few weeks, they are optimistic that both the House and Senate can pass health care reform legislation.

So they had a private meeting, on the eve of Obama’s big speech, at which no one really knows what was said … and came out afterwards preaching victory? Quite a bombshell. One minor detail that’s omitted: Which proposals, precisely, do they have enough votes to pass? The public option? A “trigger” for the public option? Health-care co-ops? A mandate to buy coverage? The One might have lowered his demands to the point where only the barest bones reform plan is still on the table; assuming that they do have the votes, the fact that he wants something passed immediately only proves how fragile the coalition must be. Indeed, one of the top Blue Dogs called the public option a “dealbreaker” yesterday — right around the same time that lefty Obama supporters were threatening to abandon The One entirely if he doesn’t cram the public option down America’s throat.

I think this is a bluff, but it’s serious enough that now might be a good time to phone your representatives. Exit question: Is The One going to turn it all around tomorrow night? Hmmmmm.

Update: Is even the RINO-iest RINO having second thoughts?

I met with the Senator personally during the August recess back here in Maine when she spoke with dozens of Maine folks in a series of health care talks throughout the state. Here is what I learned: She is worried about costs and the impact on the deficit, the public option plan is “off the table”, she wants more private insurance companies in Maine (we have 3), and she doesn’t support higher taxes – especially during a recession.

Those concerns and opinions were not from “unnamed sources,” they were straight from Senator Snowe…

So, my suggestion to the White House: put away your shovels, there is no Snowe in the forecast.

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sven10077 on September 8, 2009 at 9:08 PM

I’ll fight at your side any time, anywhere.

Liam on September 8, 2009 at 9:21 PM

Time to cue the Saving Private Ryan music. You guys should hook up and hold hands or something.

simplesimon on September 8, 2009 at 9:32 PM

I’m not one for advocating banning anyone…especially for simply having an alternate political philosophy…nor do I throw out the term “troll” lightly.

But this simon fool is the prime example of TROLL.

Where’s the hammer…

JetBoy on September 8, 2009 at 9:32 PM

A recall!? How quaint! Why not start work on a Constititional Convention while you’re at it!

simplesimon on September 8, 2009 at 8:43 PM

I want Drywall back, at least he was somewhat of an adult simplesimon, notsomuch..oh and it`s spelled Constitutional

NY Conservative on September 8, 2009 at 9:32 PM

Ah, but we still have Medicare and SS pretty much in their original form…and how many years later? It’s the seduction of liberalism that prevents the undoing of the programs.

I understand that. But the $ simply isn’t there. The economy isn’t growing (and won’t), and the debts are too high to contemplate even more deficit spending. Even if we wanted to do it, we can’t. One day, relatively soon, a politician, very possibly President Obama, will tell the Am. people that there are limits to the ability of the gov’t to fix and provide things, and that the limits have been reached. He may have this talk with us after someone in China or Japan has a talk with him. Obama’s timing isn’t so hot after all. This communism thing is mighty expensive, and we just don’t have the money right now :)

JiangxiDad on September 8, 2009 at 9:32 PM

Ah, but we still have Medicare and SS pretty much in their original form…and how many years later? It’s the seduction of liberalism that prevents the undoing of the programs. These things take time to fail to the point of their undoing. By the time things are undone to the point of failure, too many people are dependent on the government to simply let the program go away. Then we will be fighting about how to ‘fix’ socialized medicine much like the Tories in Britian or conservatives in Canada.

BryanS on September 8, 2009 at 9:28 PM

we have the “advantage” of being on our way to second tier status far more quickly than it took the rest of the anglosphere….comes from our buying their defense needs the last 60 years….

“great buy”

sven10077 on September 8, 2009 at 9:33 PM

A recall!? How quaint! Why not start work on a Constititional Convention while you’re at it!

simplesimon on September 8, 2009 at 8:43 PM

Dang you are stupid

CWforFreedom on September 8, 2009 at 9:33 PM

Initiating recalls is an action with teeth,,, especially in a state where a Dem or RINO has 2 or more years left before the next election. Imagine what it would be like to see a recall effort take off in 5, 10 12 or more states. So what if it failed. People have to try. It’s something. It’s legal. It’s real!

JellyToast on September 8, 2009 at 8:45 PM

There is nothing in the Constitution about recalls…it is a non starter..

JIMV on September 8, 2009 at 9:33 PM

Bring it Pelosi, you stupid, arrogant bitc#.

Just what do these extreme Leftist socialists think we Conservatives will do should a version of Obamacare pass?

Do they think we’ll just resign ourselves to our defeat and indentured servitude? Do they think we’ll just forget the Constitution and all the Founders fought for? Do they think we’ll just willingly submit to Big Brother?

Any “victory” will be temporary and Pyrrhic.

DerKrieger on September 8, 2009 at 9:33 PM

…But I’m not going to worry about them. I’m dreaming the hardest.”
.
Marilyn Monroe

ronsfi on September 8, 2009 at 9:34 PM

simplesimon on September 8, 2009 at 9:32 PM

I was thinking more in terms of Band of Brothers.

Liam on September 8, 2009 at 9:34 PM

Let’s have a contest!

HOW MANY TIMES WILL NANCY JUMP UP AND CLAP DURING TOMORROWS SPEECH BY THE ONE?

GarandFan on September 8, 2009 at 9:34 PM

I understand that. But the $ simply isn’t there. The economy isn’t growing (and won’t), and the debts are too high to contemplate even more deficit spending. Even if we wanted to do it, we can’t. One day, relatively soon, a politician, very possibly President Obama, will tell the Am. people that there are limits to the ability of the gov’t to fix and provide things, and that the limits have been reached. He may have this talk with us after someone in China or Japan has a talk with him. Obama’s timing isn’t so hot after all. This communism thing is mighty expensive, and we just don’t have the money right now :)

JiangxiDad on September 8, 2009 at 9:32 PM

+1….

Russia had massive natural resources and no religion against exploiting them like we do….

China killed tens of millions of comrades to make it “work” as did Russia….

no we’ll either go bankrupt or the government or the electorate will have blood on their hands….

frankly I am hoping there is near secession when the butcher’s bills come due.

sven10077 on September 8, 2009 at 9:35 PM

F

*ck you, you sniveling little communist puke. Nobody here gives a sh*t what you think about anything, you freedom-hating freak.

Dave R. on September 8, 2009 at 9:10 PM

Settle down, Dave. BHO wants to help you too!

simplesimon on September 8, 2009 at 9:36 PM

JIMV:

Unless she is honestly concerned about her political future. I don’t know if Snowe is in that position or not.

Terrye on September 8, 2009 at 9:28 PM

Maine is commie…she has no fear of losing her job so…she will do whatever will get her the best press and cocktail party invites…

JIMV on September 8, 2009 at 9:36 PM

Obama’s job is to convince them (the holdouts/ the Bluedogs) that he ‘has their back’ and will be in their districts in 10/2010 fundraising and sending out ACORN on their behalf.

Do you really think that an appearance by Obamao (or ACORN) in Bluedog districts would have an impact? My understanding is that these are conservative areas.

onlineanalyst on September 8, 2009 at 9:37 PM

Heard McCain on the radio today and I detest Senator McCain, but the man did say and I paraphrase, find the real quote its’ out there:

Public option, government option COOPS or call it Bananas it doesn’t matter it is still a a massive intrusion into citizens private lives and a road to governement take over of healthcare and I cannot support it.

Now if he can walk that back and vote for even a COOP I will have lost the last infatismal shred of respect I hold for the man which by the way comes from his actions in Nam and not a thing he has done since becoming Senator.
I wish I had heard the same from my senator Grassley.

When her nation needs her the most the real patriot steps fearlessly into the breach and preempts the Lyin Commander In Chiefs “Lyin to Idiots” speech by very effectively throwin everything he plans to lie about under the very crowded Pinnochio Presidente bus.

Follow that purple lips, your only hope is to ram it and lose your party in 2012.
I don’t think you can ram it through the Senate anyway, but if you do your last two years in office will be the most miserable time in your very miserable life.

Thankyou Sarah we need a few more Patriots like you, your timing is impeccable.

Wait till Rush does his take on the Sarahcuda tomorrow!

Good that Pinnochio warmed up on school kids today cause
tomorrow he has to adress the Class Clowns!
Maybe he’ll tell us WHY if this fantasy is such a great idea it doesn’t go into effect until 2013.

dhunter on September 8, 2009 at 9:37 PM

HOW MANY TIMES WILL NANCY JUMP UP AND CLAP DURING TOMORROWS SPEECH BY THE ONE?

GarandFan on September 8, 2009 at 9:34 PM

I don’t know…but I’m sure it’s equally proportionate to the number of times she blinks.

JetBoy on September 8, 2009 at 9:37 PM

Any “victory” will be temporary and Pyrrhic.

DerKrieger on September 8, 2009 at 9:33 PM

That’s what I think about his 2008 electoral win. His is the Pyrrhic Presidency. The realization of that must leave him with a bitter taste in his mouth. In fact, the reaction by the left to the opposition against Obama could be described as bitter. Look at SS here. He won, and he’s bitter. They all are. President Pyrrhic.

JiangxiDad on September 8, 2009 at 9:38 PM

Maine is commie…she has no fear of losing her job so…she will do whatever will get her the best press and cocktail party invites…

JIMV on September 8, 2009 at 9:36 PM

Commie?? Ever think that, after being confronted by an angry ‘Real American’ such as yourself, Ms. Snowe simply said whatever she had to in order for you to go away?

simplesimon on September 8, 2009 at 9:38 PM

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2009/09/08/2009-09-08_president_obama_says_sin_tax_on_sodas_is_food_for_thought.html

Obama acknowledged that the idea could lead to charges that Uncle Sam is trying to dictate personal diets, but he hinted the trade-off may be worth it.

“Look, people’s attitude is that they don’t necessarily want Big Brother telling them what to eat or drink, and I understand that,” Obama said.

“It is true, though, that if you wanted to make a big impact on people’s health in this country, reducing things like soda consumption would be helpful.”

I hope he fails.

DrStock on September 8, 2009 at 9:38 PM

JiangxiDad on September 8, 2009 at 9:32 PM

Don’t have the money? That’s what taxes are for, right? All we need to do is take that 1/6 of all our earnings and just hand it over to the government to run that part of the economy for us. Money problem solved…

“great buy”

sven10077 on September 8, 2009 at 9:33 PM

I hear ya. Can we finally be done defending those whiny, entitled, sniveling socialists. WWII and the cold war is over, I hear. Would be about time they paid their own way.

BryanS on September 8, 2009 at 9:39 PM

Awww. SimplySemen is dribbling all over the thread. Whatsa matter little fella? Can’t stand the thought of watching Obummer being horsewhipped and hogtied by Caribou Barbie? Bwahahaha

Guardian on September 8, 2009 at 9:40 PM

*ck you, you sniveling little communist puke. Nobody here gives a sh*t what you think about anything, you freedom-hating freak.
Dave R. on September 8, 2009 at 9:10 PM

Settle down, Dave. BHO wants to help you too!

simplesimon on September 8, 2009 at 9:36 PM

SIMPLETON is a commie tampon puke – FIFY

Ris4victory on September 8, 2009 at 9:40 PM

The fact is that any group of government bureaucrats that makes decisions affecting life or death is essentially a “death panel.” The work of Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel, President Obama’s health policy advisor and the brother of his chief of staff, is particularly disturbing on this score. Dr. Emanuel has written extensively on the topic of rationed health care, describing a “Complete Lives System” for allotting medical care based on “a priority curve on which individuals aged between roughly 15 and 40 years get the most chance, whereas the youngest and oldest people get chances that are attenuated.”[12]

He also has written that some medical services should not be guaranteed to those “who are irreversibly prevented from being or becoming participating citizens…. An obvious example is not guaranteeing health services to patients with dementia.”

I’m not kidding, I really, really want to have her puppies, even though that means a species transplant, some weird azzed genetics research and a whole lot of other crazy stuff.
Man oh man, she kicked his tushie all the way to Oklahoma!
Go Sarah!

Chewy the Lab on September 8, 2009 at 9:41 PM

Pelosi and Reid to Obama: We’ve got the votes to pass ObamaCare

A pacemaker may delay your meeting your maker
But the reaper is cheaper.

MB4 on September 8, 2009 at 9:41 PM

SIMPLETON is a commie tampon puke – FIFY

Ris4victory on September 8, 2009 at 9:40 PM

Well said, ‘victor’. You are what makes America great.

simplesimon on September 8, 2009 at 9:42 PM

no we’ll either go bankrupt or the government or the electorate will have blood on their hands….

I tend to think these are the options he faces too. Quite a pickle for our youngish, untested President. I don’t envy him. Pretty soon, I bet you won’t be able to find too many people who want to be him. After that, it’ll be hard to find anyone who voted for him.

JiangxiDad on September 8, 2009 at 9:43 PM

simplesimon:

Speaking of angry, the handful of Obamabots I know think that this means free health care. They think they will get some shiny little card or something and go to the doctor every freaking day and get their meds and none of it will cost them anything…just like the French and the Canadians and all that crap.

When they find out they actually have to pay premiums for this, or that it is mandatory, or that there will be limits to care or anything other than 100% free..it won’t be the right that has the monopoly on angry..

Suckers.

Terrye on September 8, 2009 at 9:43 PM

Obummer is getting his a$$ handed to him by a girl with nothing but a facebook page. Hilarious.

Guardian on September 8, 2009 at 9:44 PM

I hope he fails.

DrStock on September 8, 2009 at 9:38 PM

Once the government is in charge of health care, they will want to manage the lifestyle choices that add to the cost of care. Instead of creating cures for atherosclerosis, for instance, the government will find it easier to just modify behaviors by taxing ‘bad’ life choices and incentivizing ‘good’ choices.

BryanS on September 8, 2009 at 9:44 PM

(Blushing) thanks tampon!!

Ris4victory on September 8, 2009 at 9:45 PM

He won, and he’s bitter. They all are. President Pyrrhic.

JiangxiDad on September 8, 2009 at 9:38 PM

Its a reaction bourne of cowardice and laziness. To realize that they will have to use force to achieve their plans after so easily walking into power is a bitter pill to swallow. So close but yet so far.

elduende on September 8, 2009 at 9:45 PM

simplesimon on September 8, 2009 at 9:32 PM

Let me explain something to you…

You live your life in opposition. You can’t do anything else. If your lady want to share a Sundae, you’d complain there weren’t enough bananas. Or about something else.

You oppose; that’s all you do. You have limited ability, if any at all, to hold affinity to a god, another person man or woman, or to an ideal. You oppose all, and attack. Worse, you establish NO basis for what you say or believe. Your wants are your base, changeable as you need for the moment.

That is not a well person.

You can be fixed, as it were, any time you like. You can adhere to Marx all you want, and on HA that will be fully accepted by we Conservatives you appear to hate with such venom.

But you don’t want the fix, you don’t want to commit. I respect true Marxists because of their commitment tho I have a different system of values. My best professor in college the first time was an avowed Marxists, but the man was honest about himself and what he held dear.

You can’t do that, you can’t espouse your core values. Why?

Because you like trying to upset people, to ‘gain’ some small level of power where, in your reality, you have none.

Hurt is all you have. Of conviction, you’re incapable of having any except in your own limited way of selfishness.

Liam on September 8, 2009 at 9:46 PM

Obummer is getting his a$$ handed to him by a girl with nothing but a facebook page. Hilarious.

Guardian on September 8, 2009 at 9:44 PM

Only the dregs of the GOP think that she has any credibility. The foolish woman couldn’t even make it 2 years as governor of an arctic wilderness.

simplesimon on September 8, 2009 at 9:46 PM

Even the WSJ bows to our girl Sarah and gives her the stage. That has to hurt the little lefties feelings.

Guardian on September 8, 2009 at 9:47 PM

That’s what I think about his 2008 electoral win. His is the Pyrrhic Presidency. The realization of that must leave him with a bitter taste in his mouth. In fact, the reaction by the left to the opposition against Obama could be described as bitter. Look at SS here. He won, and he’s bitter. They all are. President Pyrrhic.

JiangxiDad on September 8, 2009 at 9:38 PM

Yeah….Barry can play his games but he will be the last Emperor whether he gets one term or “for life” added in….

we won’t use our natural resources, we refuse to properly valuate our labor so we deserve whatever games Chairman Mini-Mao can play until he wakes us up and we can start rebuilding as a people….

there is a DEEP rot in our culture and it comes from the notion we have Scrooge McDuck’s safe in a corner.

sven10077 on September 8, 2009 at 9:47 PM

Don’t have the money? That’s what taxes are for, right? All we need to do is take that 1/6 of all our earnings and just hand it over to the government to run that part of the economy for us. Money problem solved…

Don’t believe that’s correct. Few people pay federal taxes. I read somewhere that even if you took 1/2 of all their wealth, it wouldn’t be enough to solve the country’s financial problems. People will not work if the tax rates become confiscatory. That will make the system implode even faster. I don’t think there is any way to solve the money problems except to spend much less on gov’t and gov’t services, repay our debts, and live small for as long as it takes to do so.

Anyway, enjoyed talking to you madison. I live in a “madison” also. It helps to go out when it’s dark :) later.

JiangxiDad on September 8, 2009 at 9:47 PM

Speaking of angry, the handful of Obamabots I know think that this means free health care. They think they will get some shiny little card or something and go to the doctor every freaking day and get their meds and none of it will cost them anything…

Terrye on September 8, 2009 at 9:43 PM

Oh Lord Obama, won’t you at least buy me a Mercedes Benz ?
The uptown folks drive Porsches, they must make amends.
Worked hard watching Oprah most of my lifetime, no help from my friends,
So Lord Obama, won’t you at least buy me a Mercedes Benz ?

Oh Lord Obama, won’t you buy me a health care plan?
Working to pay for it myself is too hard on me.
I want to get prescription drugs and a doctor for free,
So Lord Obama, won’t you buy me a health care plan ?

Oh Lord Obama, won’t you buy me a retirement on the town ?
Prove that you’ll take care of me and buy my next round.
Oh Lord Obama, won’t you buy me that big house down the block that I found?
I’m counting on you, Lord Obama, please don’t let me down.

MB4 on September 8, 2009 at 9:48 PM

Only the dregs of the GOP think that she has any credibility. The foolish woman couldn’t even make it 2 years as governor of an arctic wilderness.

simplesimon on September 8, 2009 at 9:46 PM

Barry Soetoro is less popular than she was in the Tundra and he managed to fall a minimum of 11 points in what eleven fortnights?

sven10077 on September 8, 2009 at 9:48 PM

Only the dregs of the GOP think that she has any credibility. The foolish woman couldn’t even make it 2 years as governor of an arctic wilderness.

simplysemen on September 8, 2009 at 9:46 PM

Yet there she is, whooping commie a$$ and hurting the lefts little feelings.

Guardian on September 8, 2009 at 9:48 PM

NB4:

Hey, that is pretty damn clever.

Terrye on September 8, 2009 at 9:49 PM

Speaking of angry, the handful of Obamabots I know think that this means free health care. They think they will get some shiny little card or something and go to the doctor every freaking day and get their meds and none of it will cost them anything…just like the French and the Canadians and all that crap.

When they find out they actually have to pay premiums for this, or that it is mandatory, or that there will be limits to care or anything other than 100% free..it won’t be the right that has the monopoly on angry..

Suckers.

Terrye on September 8, 2009 at 9:43 PM

Barack Obama DDS, “so American taxpayer you say you have a pain in your molar…let me get my tool.”

*Barry grabs chainsaw and cuts off patient’s leg…..

patient “what the hell”

“Dr. Obama”-there all fixed….now buy your damn insurance or I’ll fine you a thousand bucks.

sven10077 on September 8, 2009 at 9:39 PM

sven10077 on September 8, 2009 at 9:49 PM

simplesimon on September 8, 2009 at 9:46 PM

Simple Simon met a pieman going to the fair;
Said Simple Simon to the pieman “Let me taste your ware”
Said the pieman to Simple Simon “Show me first your penny”
Said Simple Simon to the pieman “Sir, I have not any!”

Simple Simon went a-fishing for to catch a whale;
All the water he had got was in his mother’s pail.
Simple Simon went to look if plums grew on a thistle;
He pricked his fingers very much which made poor Simon whistle.
He went for water in a sieve but soon it all fell through;
And now poor Simple Simon bids you all “Adieu”

LEBA on September 8, 2009 at 9:49 PM

I’m not going to watch the joint session tomorrow night but I’ll be curious if to know if Nanzi Pelosi gets all spastic
with the jumping jacks like she did at the State of the Union setting behind the Joker and inhaling all that BS. If she does I hope something tears loose and they have to cart her out. That would bring the biggest standing ovation I can think of. I just wanted to share that with the few simpleton trolls still around at this late hour.

bluegrass on September 8, 2009 at 9:49 PM

Obama’s job is to convince them (the holdouts/ the Bluedogs) that he ‘has their back’ and will be in their districts in 10/2010 fundraising and sending out ACORN on their behalf.
Do you really think that an appearance by Obamao (or ACORN) in Bluedog districts would have an impact? My understanding is that these are conservative areas.

onlineanalyst on September 8, 2009 at 9:37 PM

Maybe, maybe not, but if Obama convinces them that they are safe, they will vote for it…once he gets all this crap passed within the next 6 months, it won’t matter who has Congress for the rest of the term…the job will have been completed.

tatersalad on September 8, 2009 at 9:49 PM

Its a reaction bourne of cowardice and laziness. To realize that they will have to use force to achieve their plans after so easily walking into power is a bitter pill to swallow. So close but yet so far.

elduende on September 8, 2009 at 9:45 PM

It’s the paradox of the left. So they have to oppress ‘the people’ so that they can create policies that re in ‘the people’s’ best interests. They cannot understand why people don’t just accept the policies that the leftist politicians know are best for them. I’m always reminded of Reagan’s saying for situations like this:

“The problem with our liberal friends isn’t that they are ignorant; it’s just that they know so much that isn’t so”

BryanS on September 8, 2009 at 9:50 PM

Y

et there she is, whooping commie a$$ and hurting the lefts little feelings.

Guardian on September 8, 2009 at 9:48 PM

That dopey woman is a sideshow attraction. The sordid details of her personal life are the only reason she gets coverage.

simplesimon on September 8, 2009 at 9:51 PM

simplesimon:

Oh, I don’t know, I would say that Palin has influence with more people than Nancy Pelosi does right now. Pelosi is the most hated woman in America right now, and that is saying something.

Terrye on September 8, 2009 at 9:51 PM

Obummer is getting his a$$ handed to him by a girl with nothing but a facebook page. Hilarious.

Guardian on September 8, 2009 at 9:44 PM
Only the dregs of the GOP think that she has any credibility. The foolish woman couldn’t even make it 2 years as governor of an arctic wilderness.

simplesimon on September 8, 2009 at 9:46 PM

Which makes the fact that she’s handing your asses to you even more puzzling, eh?

ddrintn on September 8, 2009 at 9:51 PM

Only the dregs of the GOP think that she has any credibility. The foolish woman couldn’t even make it 2 years as governor of an arctic wilderness.

simplesimon on September 8, 2009 at 9:46 PM

Try to focus (can a tampon focus?) – Palin is a private citizen, so your pansy insults have lost their innocuous sting. Obambi is large and in charge and running the country off the proverbial cliff & all you got is a palin insult? Back your boy up!! He WON – be a good little bot & help w/this mess – WE GOT A BLEEDER!!

Ris4victory on September 8, 2009 at 9:51 PM

A great deal of attention was given to my use of the phrase “death panel” in discussing such rationing.[7] Despite repeated attempts by many in the media to dismiss this phrase as a “myth”, its accuracy has been vindicated.

Cuda

My favorite paragraph. Stick it to em girl.

Geochelone on September 8, 2009 at 9:51 PM

That dopey woman is a sideshow attraction. The sordid details of her personal life are the only reason she gets coverage.

simplesimon on September 8, 2009 at 9:51 PM

That won’t get rid of the “death panel” meme. Keep trying.

ddrintn on September 8, 2009 at 9:52 PM

simplesimon on September 8, 2009 at 8:41 PM

And you would know about being “impotent” wouldn’t you?

lovingmyUSA on September 8, 2009 at 9:52 PM

Communism has failed every time it’s been tried. Even the Chinese are capitalists now. Why do we still have all these complete idiots thinking that a 19th century political philosopher came up with THE answer?

Once the US economy goes all the wealth that they like to redistribute goes too. They whined about the speed at which New Orleans was helped by the feds. Just wait, when that happens again there will be no help. There will be no aid to Africa, no AIDS research, no assisting Tsunami victims, no protecting 3rd world communist dictators, no english as a second language, no head start, no nothing. All available resources will have to go to feeding and enslaving the masses. Good job you little left wing pricks, you may have destroyed the greatest good that the world has ever seen all because you are jealous of the unnamed “rich”.

Haunches on September 8, 2009 at 9:52 PM

HOW MANY TIMES WILL NANCY JUMP UP AND CLAP DURING TOMORROWS SPEECH BY THE ONE?

GarandFan on September 8, 2009 at 9:34 PM
I don’t know…but I’m sure it’s equally proportionate to the number of times she blinks.

OK, who wants to help establish rules for the drinking game?

My suggestion is that the trigger words (so much more meaningful in this context!)can’t include “I” (As in , “As I’ve said many times before)”, “Let me be clear,” or, Look, if itttt ittt, ah…”

to make it really fair and challenging, it needs to be at least two consecutive words.
My nomination: “We inherited.”

Chewy the Lab on September 8, 2009 at 9:52 PM

simplesimon:

Sordid my ass. The media could not be bothered to cover Obama and his freak of a pastor or his commie czars or Rangel and his crimes or any number of real Democratic scandals, but somehow or other I am supposed to think that the details of Sarah Palin’s life are sordid? What a hoot.

Terrye on September 8, 2009 at 9:53 PM

Hahaha. It’s sad that the dregs are counting on Sarah Palin to save them from teh King of Kenya. Good luck with that, race fans!

simplesimon on September 8, 2009 at 9:53 PM

simplesimon on September 8, 2009 at 9:46 PM

Simple Simon met a pieman going to the fair;
Said Simple Simon to the pieman “Let me taste your ware”
Said the pieman to Simple Simon “Show me first your penny”
Said Simple Simon to the pieman “Sir, I have not any!”

Simple Simon went a-fishing for to catch a whale;
All the water he had got was in his mother’s pail.
Simple Simon went to look if plums grew on a thistle;
He pricked his fingers very much which made poor Simon whistle.
He went for water in a sieve but soon it all fell through;
And now poor Simple Simon bids you all “Adieu”

LEBA on September 8, 2009 at 9:54 PM

Don’t believe that’s correct. Few people pay federal taxes. I read somewhere that even if you took 1/2 of all their wealth, it wouldn’t be enough to solve the country’s financial problems. People will not work if the tax rates become confiscatory. That will make the system implode even faster. I don’t think there is any way to solve the money problems except to spend much less on gov’t and gov’t services, repay our debts, and live small for as long as it takes to do so.

Anyway, enjoyed talking to you madison. I live in a “madison” also. It helps to go out when it’s dark :) later.

JiangxiDad on September 8, 2009 at 9:47 PM

Nice chatting with you as well. Agreed on the taxation thing–but logic and facts don’t always get in the way of the leftists’ plans. They don’t understand economics to start with, so they come up with schemes that are ruinous at best.

BryanS on September 8, 2009 at 9:54 PM

“The problem with our liberal friends isn’t that they are ignorant; it’s just that they know so much that isn’t so”

BryanS on September 8, 2009 at 9:50 PM

Smart man. He must be turning over in his grave at the thought of what’s happened to both political parties.

elduende on September 8, 2009 at 9:55 PM

Hahaha. It’s sad that the dregs are counting on Sarah Palin to save them from teh King of Kenya. Good luck with that, race fans!

simplesimon on September 8, 2009 at 9:53 PM

Oh yeah, babayyyy! Teh One is still at 98% approval, NASCAR bubbas!

Baghdad Bob. Your goofy messiah’s takin’ ya down, and you don’t even have half a brain to figure it out. Lovely.

ddrintn on September 8, 2009 at 9:55 PM

simplesimon:

Sordid my ass. The media could not be bothered to cover Obama and his freak of a pastor or his commie czars or Rangel and his crimes or any number of real Democratic scandals, but somehow or other I am supposed to think that the details of Sarah Palin’s life are sordid? What a hoot.

Terrye on September 8, 2009 at 9:53 PM

They’re trashy. Very trashy…

simplesimon on September 8, 2009 at 9:55 PM

simplesimon on September 8, 2009 at 8:45 PM

Hmm, definition of “impotent” here…

lovingmyUSA on September 8, 2009 at 9:55 PM

Even the WSJ bows to our girl Sarah and gives her the stage. That has to hurt the little lefties feelings.

Guardian on September 8, 2009 at 9:47 PM

Especially Peggy NOONAN. In your WSJ face Peggy.

Cryin Rino alert.

Geochelone on September 8, 2009 at 9:56 PM

to make it really fair and challenging, it needs to be at least two consecutive words.
My nomination: “We inherited.”

Chewy the Lab on September 8, 2009 at 9:52 PM

How about “choice and competition” or “deficit neutral.”

highhopes on September 8, 2009 at 9:56 PM

That dopey woman is a sideshow attraction. The sordid details of her personal life are the only reason she gets coverage.

simplysemen on September 8, 2009 at 9:51 PM

You keep telling yourself that my sticky little friend. It won’t change anything but don’t let that stop you.

Guardian on September 8, 2009 at 9:56 PM

They’re trashy. Very trashy…

simplesimon on September 8, 2009 at 9:55 PM

Not as much as Michelle O’s wardrobe.

ddrintn on September 8, 2009 at 9:56 PM

He went for water in a sieve but soon it all fell through; And now poor Simple Simon bids you all ‘Adieu’

LEBA on September 8, 2009 at 9:57 PM

Yeah, well when it comes to trashy, you oughta know.

Terrye on September 8, 2009 at 9:57 PM

Lots of “ink” being wasted on simplesimon here tonight people. Leave it alone.

DerKrieger on September 8, 2009 at 9:57 PM

Not as much as Michelle O’s wardrobe.

ddrintn on September 8, 2009 at 9:56 PM

Did she steal it like that klassy woman did?

simplesimon on September 8, 2009 at 9:57 PM

“I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence (OBAMACARE – mine), the money of their constituents.” – James Madison

DerKrieger on September 8, 2009 at 9:58 PM

HOW MANY TIMES WILL NANCY JUMP UP AND CLAP DURING TOMORROWS SPEECH BY THE ONE?

I am sure that the jackass-in-the-box will be busy.

ICBM on September 8, 2009 at 9:58 PM

simplesimon on September 8, 2009 at 9:53 PM

So, like–you’re birther who says Obama wasn’t born in Hawaii?

Liam on September 8, 2009 at 9:58 PM

Sorry for the double post…my dsl is running super slow..

LEBA on September 8, 2009 at 9:58 PM

Not as much as Michelle O’s wardrobe.

ddrintn on September 8, 2009 at 9:56 PM

And then there is Barry’s brother living in a hut and his aunt living in subsidized housing. Just love the way Barry spreads the wealth around.

Terrye on September 8, 2009 at 9:58 PM

Not as much as Michelle O’s wardrobe.

ddrintn on September 8, 2009 at 9:56 PM
Did she steal it like that klassy woman did?

simplesimon on September 8, 2009 at 9:57 PM

Every friggin’ thing they have is stolen, dontcha know. They’ve been on the public dime most of their lives, from what I can tell.

ddrintn on September 8, 2009 at 9:59 PM

Obama acknowledged that the idea could correctly lead to charges that Uncle Sam is he and his ilk are trying to dictate Dictate personal diets, but he hinted the trade-off may be worth it.

“Look, people’s attitude is that they don’t necessarily want Big F’in Brother telling them what to eat, or drink, do or think and I don’t understand that,” Obama said.

“It is true, though, that if you wanted to steal individual Americans’ liberties make a big impact on people’s health in this country, reducing controlling seemingly minor things like soda consumption would be helpful a sneaky way to get your foot in the door.”

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Notice he didn’t use the “I” word… Push the blame off on Uncle Sam, “Big Brother”… Scum.
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RalphyBoy on September 8, 2009 at 9:59 PM

Let me explain something to you…

You live your life in opposition. You can’t do anything else. If your lady want to share a Sundae, you’d complain there weren’t enough bananas. Or about something else.

You oppose; that’s all you do. You have limited ability, if any at all, to hold affinity to a god, another person man or woman, or to an ideal. You oppose all, and attack. Worse, you establish NO basis for what you say or believe. Your wants are your base, changeable as you need for the moment.

That is not a well person.

You can be fixed, as it were, any time you like. You can adhere to Marx all you want, and on HA that will be fully accepted by we Conservatives you appear to hate with such venom.

But you don’t want the fix, you don’t want to commit. I respect true Marxists because of their commitment tho I have a different system of values. My best professor in college the first time was an avowed Marxists, but the man was honest about himself and what he held dear.

You can’t do that, you can’t espouse your core values. Why?

Because you like trying to upset people, to ‘gain’ some small level of power where, in your reality, you have none.

Hurt is all you have. Of conviction, you’re incapable of having any except in your own limited way of selfishness.

Liam on September 8, 2009 at 9:46 PM

Standing ovation!

NathanG on September 8, 2009 at 9:59 PM

Haha. Some idiot woman who took 6 years to get through college and can’t last 2 years as governor has “opinions”. The Iquitorod is politically irrelevant – she’s just a trashy tabloid curiosity.

simplesimon on September 8, 2009 at 8:49 PM

We can always tell when you’re typing one-handed, while your other hand is occupied. Stop drooling–it’s unbecoming. We know your fantasies…The twitching should start soon.

lovingmyUSA on September 8, 2009 at 10:00 PM

Oh my goodness the elitist snob said, Did Sarah Palin’s daughter have a baby?? Shocking and oh so trashy…Why when my angel got knocked up by my second husband I just made sure the little slut got an abortion.

Terrye on September 8, 2009 at 10:00 PM

BTW, has Obama ever released his transcripts? I don’t think so…

Terrye on September 8, 2009 at 10:01 PM

Oh my goodness the elitist snob said, Did Sarah Palin’s daughter have a baby?? Shocking and oh so trashy…Why when my angel got knocked up by my second husband I just made sure the little slut got an abortion.

Terrye on September 8, 2009 at 10:00 PM

Yeah, and who’s that illegal immigrant for an aunt Obama’s got, Zatooty or something. Oh, so trashy. Very trashy.

ddrintn on September 8, 2009 at 10:02 PM

Via Instapundit, looks like Obama “doubling down” on socialized medicine.

Booooo!!!

BryanS on September 8, 2009 at 10:03 PM

Sarah Palin has withstood the best the leftards have to offer. Cut and paste gotcha interviews, late night comedic low blows, personal attacks on family and friends and endless, baseless lawsuits and still she intuitively knows when the time is right and now in the time and place of her choosing Sarah the Hunted becomes Sarah the Hunter and steps into the breech and preempts the Pinnochio Presidente on the eve of his attempt to salavage any shred of crediblity, or any hope of regaining control over his EPIC FAILURE of a presidency.
That right there is PRICELESS and why Sarah is the AntiObama and why the Libtards are deathly afraid of Sarahcuda!

dhunter on September 8, 2009 at 10:04 PM

ddrintn:

Well and then there is Reverend Wright living in a mansion while he fleeces the po’ people and deflowers the secretary.

Terrye on September 8, 2009 at 10:04 PM

Notice how the Simple idiot gives a pass to the Queen of Camelot?

Simple you are a slave. How does it feel? You are owned..pretty sad…..

you know down deep I am right on target. you cannot think for yourself and your material is simply recycled.

CWforFreedom on September 8, 2009 at 10:04 PM

The Dems want to spend us to death and you are playing your same tired games. I question your patriotism.

CWforFreedom on September 8, 2009 at 8:50 PM
it is dancing to the old set of music…

sven10077 on September 8, 2009 at 8:51 PM

Can we say Richard Simmons? A obvious personal favorite of Simple’s.

lovingmyUSA on September 8, 2009 at 10:05 PM

Via Instapundit, looks like Obama “doubling down” on socialized medicine.

Booooo!!!

BryanS on September 8, 2009 at 10:03 PM

Brilliant. That’ll knock about 10-20 points more off support for the public option.

ddrintn on September 8, 2009 at 10:09 PM

Liam on September 8, 2009 at 9:46 PM

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I thought you were addressing Obama?
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RalphyBoy on September 8, 2009 at 10:09 PM

Via Instapundit, looks like Obama “doubling down” on socialized medicine.

BryanS on September 8, 2009 at 10:03 PM

Not a whole lot of substance in that. The filthy liar has always been for the single-payer option so he’s not going to dump that as a component but will give himself a way out should Congress not deliver. He’ll do what Clinton did with welfare reform- whine and bitch and make it clear he is signing the legislation under duress but it is more important to take a step at reform than kill the whole bill for lack of socialized medicine.

highhopes on September 8, 2009 at 10:10 PM

I’m not an expert parliamentarian, but it seems to me that the whole “pass this sh*t sandwich now, because even if the Dems lose the house there won’t be enough margin to overturn a veto” misses one very important point.

What if every bill, for every purpose, had an amendment repealing this travesty? What’s Obama going to do, veto everything?

cthulhu on September 8, 2009 at 10:10 PM

How many seconds in the speech do you think it will be before the filthy liar mentions Teddy Kennedy? I’m going for 3 seconds in.

highhopes on September 8, 2009 at 10:12 PM

T

hat right there is PRICELESS and why Sarah is the AntiObama and why the Libtards are deathly afraid of Sarahcuda!

dhunter on September 8, 2009 at 10:04 PM

Settle down, Real American. If that idiot woman is your best hope it’s time to hang it up.

simplesimon on September 8, 2009 at 10:13 PM

you know down deep I am right on target. you cannot think for yourself and your material is simply recycled.

CWforFreedom on September 8, 2009 at 10:04 PM

Whaaaaaat? You mean calling people “race fans” over and over isn’t original? Or funny. Another thing that is consistent is that he’s a bigot and an elitist.

NathanG on September 8, 2009 at 10:14 PM

Settle down, Real American. If that idiot woman is your best hope it’s time to hang it up.

simplesimon on September 8, 2009 at 10:13 PM

You’re in far worse shape with Obama as your best hope. He’s sinking.

ddrintn on September 8, 2009 at 10:16 PM

NathanG on September 8, 2009 at 10:14 PM

Or saying settle down over and over and over

CWforFreedom on September 8, 2009 at 10:16 PM

Notice how the Simple idiot gives a pass to the Queen of Camelot?

Simple you are a slave. How does it feel? You are owned..pretty sad…..

you know down deep I am right on target. you cannot think for yourself and your material is simply recycled.

CWforFreedom on September 8, 2009 at 10:04 PM

He/she/tran is no Marxist. I’ll use the common usage of ‘he’ for this.

SS has no core values, he’s not a real Marxist or any other kind of -ist there is. He’s typical of those damaged people who often post here. If he had any sense of self-worth, he’d be quoting Marx out the ass less often than being on Kos or Huff.

He wants attention, demanding it without returning substance. There’s really nothing to him.

Conversely, AnninCA at least tries making points, having a basis for herself. That’s more valuable than SS.

In conversations at the water cooler at work, how many libs know what they’re talking about?

SS is just another at the water cooler, but he hasn’t realized the cooler ran out of water an hour ago.

Liam on September 8, 2009 at 10:16 PM

According to Rasmussens, Republicans are picking up more support:

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey shows that while 44% trust Republicans more on [health care], the identical number (44%) have more faith in the Democrats.

Republicans still lead Democrats on seven out of 10 key electoral issues, including the top issue of the economy.

Terrye on September 8, 2009 at 10:16 PM

Eh. It’s supposed to be simply-semen but he’s a real bad speller.

Guardian on September 8, 2009 at 9:18 PM

Could you be any more unfunny?

simplesimon on September 8, 2009 at 9:21 PM

Think you hit a nerve, from now on It’s name shall be simplesemen

lovingmyUSA on September 8, 2009 at 10:16 PM

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