White House source: We never asked Van Jones to fill out the vetting questionnaire Update: FBI vetted Jones

posted at 3:27 pm on September 7, 2009 by Allahpundit

I don’t believe them. Or rather, I don’t believe that this is some innocent blind spot in the vetting process.

An administration official said special advisers to the president, or czars, are not required to fill out the questionnaire that runs 7 pages and contains 63 questions.

The entire questionnaire, the official said, is reserved for appointees who must win Senate confirmation

Question 61 reads as follows: “Have you had any association with any person, group or business venture that could be used – even unfairly – to impugn or attack your character and qualifications for government service?”…

An administration official said Jones never hid his controversial associations or remarks from the White House.

“It wouldn’t be fair to characterize him as being dishonest or hiding his comments or his positions,” the official said. “It’s just fair to say that he didn’t go through the most rigorous vetting process.”

This reeks of plausible deniability. If they knew, however vaguely, that he was tainted, why wouldn’t they follow up with a thorough vetting via the questionnaire to find out just how tainted he was? Answer: Because they didn’t want to know, and they certainly didn’t want to create any documents that would prove that they did. Copping to incompetence in the background check is less politically damaging than copping to putting a Truther on the payroll with full knowledge of his past, so that’s how they’re going to spin this. Plain and simple, they’ve been playing dumb about this guy since the moment they hired him.

A former Bush lawyer who spoke to Politico isn’t buying it:

During the Bush Administration any White House staffer with policymaking or public responsibilities would have undergone substantial vetting. At a minimum, the potential hire would have been asked the umbrella question “is there anything in your background that — fairly or unfairly — might be used to cause embarrasment to you or the President.” In, addition, anyone with a West Wing office had to undergo a national security background investigation based on the SF-86 form in order to get a permanent badge. That form includes very detailed questions about associations with anti-government groups. If Jones was asked either set of questions, the information that led to his resignation should have been disclosed…

Van Jones’ issues would probably have been flagged if he had simply been looking for a date on E-Harmony or Match.Com. Here, there was most likely a major gap in the vetting operation, a deliberate deception by Jones, or a conscious decision by someone senior to short circuit the more rigorous vetting process. The smart money would be on the latter two possibilities. This happened once in the Bush Administration with the vetting of Bernie Kerik, with awful consequences.

Not the first time we’ve heard the “short circuit” theory floated. I said this yesterday but it’s important enough to bear repeating: The White House is flatly admitting here that its czars are specially exempt from the sort of scrutiny that cabinet officers receive. But why? The point of a Senate confirmation hearing is to make sure that power isn’t being wielded by officials whom the public would consider unsuitable or irresponsible; if the White House wants to bypass that process, the least it could do is make some sort of cursory inquiry towards the same end. And yet, by their own admission, they’re not. Which means (a) Obama must feel mighty confident that no third party is going to make that inquiry on its own — and rightly so, and (b) there’s potentially an awful lot of skeletons in an awful lot of closets yet to be revealed. Exit question: Will the Jones scandal spark a round of after-the-fact vetting by White House lawyers to make sure this doesn’t happen again? Or will The One double down on his wager that the media won’t bother asking questions no matter how many alarm bells about his team of czars are going off?

Update: Reader Geoff A. points out that at least one Jones acquaintance was interviewed by the FBI as part of their background check on him. I assume that was aimed at finding out if he had any criminal background, not if he was a Truther nut, but note well:

Jones resigned amid a furor over his signature on a 2004 petition questioning the government’s actions around the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

Supporters say the administration surely knew his background when they appointed Jones, the first African American to write a best-selling environmental book, as special adviser for green jobs at the White House Council on Environmental Quality. In fact, agents interviewed at least one of his former supervisors in San Francisco – Eva Paterson – when the FBI vetted his appointment.

For once, his supporters are probably right. And also note this, again via Geoff A. Time magazine, November 18, 2008, just two weeks after the election:

Though over 7,000 jobs are expected to become available in President-elect Barack Obama’s Administration, applying for them is not for the faint of heart — or character. In order to compete for any of the positions, from U.S. coordinator for Afghanistan to staff assistant in the Department of Public Affairs, prospective Obamans need to fill out a grueling seven-page questionnaire created by Obama’s transition team to ensure that all members of the next Administration have had their closets spring-cleaned of any skeletons well in advance.

The questionnaire leaves no stone unturned in its 63-part effort to excavate any personal or professional transgressions in a candidate’s past. Sample indiscretions run the gamut from criminal convictions and tax fraud to text messages or personal diary entries that could be a “possible source of embarrassment” to the President-elect if made public.

This would be the same questionnaire that pointedly wasn’t given to Jones. How come, Barry? Just another false promise of ethics and transparency that quickly fell by the wayside after the inauguration?

Update: Was the FBI check only aimed at criminal history? Omri Ceren e-mails to say he doubts it and points to this passage at the Office of Personnel Management website:

Q. Why are you going to investigate me? I’m only applying for an entry level job and I don’t need a security clearance.

A. The interests of the national security require that all persons privileged to be employed in the departments and agencies of the government shall be reliable, trustworthy, of good conduct and character, and of complete and unswerving loyalty to the United States. This means that the appointment of each civilian employee in any department or agency of the government is subject to investigation. The scope of the investigation will vary, depending on the nature of the position and the degree of harm that an individual in that position could cause.

Jones’s association with STORM should have been a, er, red flag — enough of one, at least, to warrant completing the full seven-page questionnaire. Again, why the free pass?

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WHAT?!?!

Most vetted administration… evah!

/s

Skywise on September 7, 2009 at 3:29 PM

who’s up for some “it’s not the crime, it’s the coverup that gets you” speculation?

cs89 on September 7, 2009 at 3:30 PM

Well we knew who he was, and the 63 part Q+A was mostly for you rubes to chew on….

sven10077 on September 7, 2009 at 3:30 PM

Obama will double down.

aikidoka on September 7, 2009 at 3:31 PM

And why isn’t Valerie Jarrett having her head handed to her?

Ahhhh that’s right…she is a friend of Obama’s.

SmallGovtGuy on September 7, 2009 at 3:31 PM

By the way in all candor AP your broadside on “why are the Tsars exempt when the whole point of confirmation is to look at a person’s credentials and character?” is right on target.

sven10077 on September 7, 2009 at 3:31 PM

Well Duh, this is why the CzarMaster does this crap.
Sorry Bambi, the gig is up. Expect the public to be asking the questions you won’t.

JusDreamin on September 7, 2009 at 3:31 PM

Control of the House in 2010 will fix this.

Can you say congressional hearings?

faraway on September 7, 2009 at 3:31 PM

If only there was some constitutional mechanism of checks and balances to watch out if another branch went off the rails.

pedestrian on September 7, 2009 at 3:31 PM

Obama and his people knew EXACTLY who Van Jones was and is. “We are shocked, shocked!” doesn’t cut it.

ddrintn on September 7, 2009 at 3:32 PM

Barack Knew Jones Blew.

Beat that drum!

They loved this commie weasel race-baiting Troofer punk… until they got caught.

Then it was time to call for the O’Bus.

( Michelle Obama must be no longer proud of her country, again.)

profitsbeard on September 7, 2009 at 3:32 PM

Of course they didn’t ask him . . . they knew exactly what he was and that he was precisely what Obama wanted. This bum was not an accident he was the cornerstone of this administration.

rplat on September 7, 2009 at 3:32 PM

Oh, okay, so the administration is merely incompetent. I feel better, don’t you?

Christien on September 7, 2009 at 3:34 PM

I don’t believe them. Or rather, I don’t believe that this is some innocent blind spot in the vetting process.

Allahpundit, you had better watch out or some may start calling you a vettier.

MB4 on September 7, 2009 at 3:34 PM

If he filled out the questionaire truthfully he would have gotten the job anyway. Feature/bug computer software metaphor, and so forth.

Ted Torgerson on September 7, 2009 at 3:35 PM

If only there was some constitutional mechanism of checks and balances to watch out if another branch went off the rails.

pedestrian on September 7, 2009 at 3:31 PM

There is. It’s simply changed form.
It’s now back where it belongs. In the hands of the people!

katy on September 7, 2009 at 3:35 PM

Truthers, Birthers and now Vettiers! What is this crazy wold coming to!!!???

MB4 on September 7, 2009 at 3:36 PM

Unaccountable “Kitchen cabinet” for his buddies, Senate-confirmation cabinet for his opponents. See also Clinton, Hillary.

Blacksmith on September 7, 2009 at 3:36 PM

You guys are just discriminating against communists.

faraway on September 7, 2009 at 3:36 PM

Can anyone say CULTURE OF CORRUPTION?

Geochelone on September 7, 2009 at 3:37 PM

Half of Obama’s official cabinet hadn’t even paid income taxes (which Democrats refer to as: “other people’s money.”)

What are the odds that even ONE of Obama’s inner circle of avowed Communists have EVER paid ANY taxes?

logis on September 7, 2009 at 3:37 PM

Of course they didn’t ask him . . . they knew exactly what he was and that he was precisely what Obama wanted. This bum was not an accident he was the cornerstone of this administration.

Absolutely! I believe Valerie Jarrett.

R Square on September 7, 2009 at 3:37 PM

Truthers, Birthers and now Vettiers! What is this crazy wold coming to!!!???

MB4 on September 7, 2009 at 3:36 PM

don’t forget us Dualers…

Romeo13 on September 7, 2009 at 3:37 PM

Or will The One double down on his wager that the media won’t bother asking questions no matter how many alarm bells about his team of czars are going off?

That one.

Obama did promise change. Out with the Texan straight talk. In with the Chicago subterfuge.

backwoods conservative on September 7, 2009 at 3:37 PM

“It’s just fair to say that he didn’t go through the most rigorous vetting process.”

So, the Obama administration will let anyone work in the white house without a thorough background check??

This is not only dumb; it is dangerous to the country.

I bet the Senate Democrats are mad as hell!

TN Mom on September 7, 2009 at 3:37 PM

So they are admitting they gave a WH job to a guy they didn’t know much about?

This is a very damaging admission, so they must be attempting to protect whoever recruited and signed off on Jones – probably Jarrett.

The biggest question now should be: did the FBI and/or Secret Service run a background check? If yes, what did they find? If they didn’t run a check, why not? Lastly, if they found anything damaging, who made the decision to override their concerns?

Missy on September 7, 2009 at 3:37 PM

What sort of questionnaire does a guy who belonged to a group called, “Standing Together to Organize a Revolutionary Movement” need to fill out? What do they need to ask someone, whose own supporters at the HuffPo described the group, “(STORM), which sympathized with Maoist-inspired peasant movements throughout the world“, and tried to defend Jones by saying, “Jones, however, left radical politics and made the decision to work within the system, rather than try to overthrow it.“?

I keep saying it, but it is just too descriptive of our present situation:

We are well through the looking glass.

progressoverpeace on September 7, 2009 at 3:38 PM

Barack was tired Van Jones was hired.

Barack conspired Van Jones was fired.

Geochelone on September 7, 2009 at 3:39 PM

The biggest question now should be: did the FBI and/or Secret Service run a background check? If yes, what did they find? If they didn’t run a check, why not? Lastly, if they found anything damaging, who made the decision to override their concerns?

Missy on September 7, 2009 at 3:37 PM

All roads lead to Jarrett and the Obamas

SmallGovtGuy on September 7, 2009 at 3:39 PM

I just hope Glenn, MM, HA, and all the others who have seen this worm gone, will let no stone unturned on the other czars. They ALL need to go!
L

letget on September 7, 2009 at 3:40 PM

So, we don’t get to see Van’s Long Form Questionnaire?

/

Christien on September 7, 2009 at 3:40 PM

No FBI check, no Senate hearings for a “low-level” admin who just happened to be responsible for distributing $30 million in tax dollars? Why is Congress not irate at this unchecked power grab?

publiuspen on September 7, 2009 at 3:40 PM

Judgment.

Bru on September 7, 2009 at 3:40 PM

The point of a Senate confirmation hearing is to make sure that power isn’t being wielded by officials whom the public would consider unsuitable or irresponsible; if the White House wants to bypass that process,

Listen carefully. This is the new talking point coming from the left.
I heard it twice yesterday on the morning shows. Once from Howard Dean and again from Dashle.
They are trying to normalize bypassing the constitutional process by which we maintain our system of checks and balances

“The process is not as important as the policy

Listen for this and bring it to light!!

katy on September 7, 2009 at 3:41 PM

The Constitution is sooo hard to follow! It’s unfair!

SouthernGent on September 7, 2009 at 3:41 PM

I thought he would hang on with VJ, but I was wrong on that one…but I think he’ll double down. If he starts dropping his other lefty loon Czars, the nutroots will have a collective aneurysm.

AUINSC on September 7, 2009 at 3:41 PM

All roads lead to Jarrett and the Obamas

SmallGovtGuy on September 7, 2009 at 3:39 PM

All roads lead to Bill Ayers and the Weather Underground

faraway on September 7, 2009 at 3:41 PM

An administration official said Jones never hid his controversial associations or remarks from the White House.

It’s just fair to say that he didn’t go through the most rigorous vetting process.”

So they didn’t ask and he didn’t tell? Is that the WH DADT policy?

But Valerie Jarrett seemed to know all about him.

katiejane on September 7, 2009 at 3:41 PM

don’t forget us Dualers…

Romeo13 on September 7, 2009 at 3:37 PM

Yes, and Dualers. Truthers, Birthers, Dualers and now Vettiers! It’s a mad house!!!

Aren’t there any sane people who will just let Obama eat his waffles in peace?

MB4 on September 7, 2009 at 3:42 PM

The entire questionnaire, the official said, is reserved for appointees who must win Senate confirmation…

Question: What is the reason for needing a czar?

ladyingray on September 7, 2009 at 3:42 PM

Okay, let’s say that you are an idiot and let’s say you are currently the President of the United States – But I repeat myself.

You are being exposed for what you are Obama. You have a lot of Jones type people in your cabinet. They will be outed.

BobK on September 7, 2009 at 3:42 PM

If members of the administration had been “carefully vetted” (by the standards applied to the majority of administrations), Osama Obama would not be president.

Van Jones is simply another Jeremiah Wright, a loud-mouth believer in the Chicago Jesus’s despicable communist, racist ideology. Obama kew exactly what the hell he had done and chose him anyway.

Time for change: Impeachment.

MrScribbler on September 7, 2009 at 3:42 PM

This reeks of plausible deniability.

You took the words out of my mouth.

Leaving that aside, when was Sgt. Schultz from Hogan’s Heroes installed as the Vetting Czar? Beck needs to go after Sgt. Schultz first because Jones must have been Schultz’s fault, and the rest will fall like dominoes as soon as Schultz is pushed over.

BuckeyeSam on September 7, 2009 at 3:42 PM

And not having VJ fill out the paper work is reassuring how?

rebuzz on September 7, 2009 at 3:43 PM

I don’t believe for one second that Obama and his people were unaware of everything this man was about.

I think they’ve chosen between the two bad choices they have: to claim they didn’t put him through any sort of vetting process, or to admit they knew all about him and thought he was a good choice.

capitalist piglet on September 7, 2009 at 3:43 PM

Using Van Jones as an example of their treatment of the czars, they run the czar thru the Secret Service/FBI check then the President, Vice Pres, or Chief of Staff overrule any flags and the czar is accepted. Next, he’s given responsibility for $30 billion. See how that works?

debg on September 7, 2009 at 3:43 PM

Did he forget to give the questionnaire to Reverend Wright, too?

LibTired on September 7, 2009 at 3:43 PM

No FBI check, no Senate hearings for a “low-level” admin who just happened to be responsible for distributing $30 million in tax dollars? Why is Congress not irate at this unchecked power grab?

publiuspen on September 7, 2009 at 3:40 PM

We need to make sure there is a turnover in the Senate. This is ridiculous.

ladyingray on September 7, 2009 at 3:43 PM

Van Jones wasn’t vetted Barack regretted.

Geochelone on September 7, 2009 at 3:44 PM

No FBI check, no Senate hearings for a “low-level” admin who just happened to be responsible for distributing $30 million BILLION in tax dollars? Why is Congress not irate at this unchecked power grab?

publiuspen on September 7, 2009 at 3:40 PM

FIFA (Fixed It For Accuracy)

profitsbeard on September 7, 2009 at 3:44 PM

Of course he wasn’t – deniability… SNORT

ChalkPerson on September 7, 2009 at 3:44 PM

Missy on September 7, 2009 at 3:37 PM

I’m sure the FBI, and Secret Service, is pulling their hair out… there are sooooo many “strange” people in the Whitehouse right now…

Elected Officials are not even investigated for Security Clearences… because anything found could be used by a political opponent… apparently Staff is now being given the same type of privelege…

Romeo13 on September 7, 2009 at 3:44 PM

So, we don’t get to see Van’s Long Form Questionnaire?

/

Christien on September 7, 2009 at 3:40 PM

You mean the paper napkin on which Jones wrote, “I hate whitey, and whatever is wrong is all whitey’s fault”?

BuckeyeSam on September 7, 2009 at 3:45 PM

Verified: The Vetting Czar has been caught not vetting the vettees.

faraway on September 7, 2009 at 3:45 PM

Exit question- the second one.

BKeyser on September 7, 2009 at 3:45 PM

This is not the vetting process I knew!

Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton blasted the government vetting and clearance process Monday, blaming it for long delays in announcing nominees for key positions in the State Department.

She also criticized the procedure’s intrusiveness for discouraging highly qualified candidates from accepting senior posts.

“The clearance and vetting process is a nightmare, and it takes far longer than any of us would want to see. It is frustrating beyond words,” Mrs. Clinton said. “I mean, it is ridiculous. Some very good people just didn’t want to be vetted.”

The secretary spoke at the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID), where she was asked why an administrator has not been named nearly six months into the new administration.

“Let me say, it’s not for lack of trying,” she said. “I pushed very hard last week when I knew I was coming here to get permission from the White House to be able to tell you that help is on the way and someone will be nominated shortly.”

Administration officials said last week that a nominee would be announced soon. The most likely person is Paul Farmer, a Harvard University professor and physician who is well-known for his aid work in Haiti.

“I was unable,” Mrs. Clinton said. “The message came back: ‘We are not ready.’ ”

Although much of the work on vetting and clearance is done by the FBI, the White House ethics office has been stricter under President Obama than in some previous administrations. White House officials declined comment on the issue.

Mrs. Clinton derided some of the questions applicants are required to answer, searching for each place where each applicant has lived since age 18 and every foreign national he or she knows. She also said that most candidates have to hire lawyers and accountants to help them through the process, and some lack the means to afford such an expense.

Several candidates for high-level positions have declined job offers because of what they consider an overly intrusive vetting process.
(via washingtontimes.com 7.14.09)

TN Mom on September 7, 2009 at 3:46 PM

Yes, and Dualers. Truthers, Birthers, Dualers and now Vettiers! It’s a mad house!!!

Aren’t there any sane people who will just let Obama eat his waffles in peace?

MB4 on September 7, 2009 at 3:42 PM

Wait, wasn’t John Kerry a Waffler? or was that FlipFlopper?

Romeo13 on September 7, 2009 at 3:46 PM

The lying B.S. administration.
Obama’s ego, pushed up by the MSM, allows him to select whomever he wants without the worry of repercussion, and the MSM doesn’t care.
The GOP stayed quiet because they don’t want to be accused of being racist and/or are incredibly lazy. All of a sudden, yesterday Pence wanted an investigation of these czars. Pathetic.

cubachi on September 7, 2009 at 3:46 PM

Here’s the problem, Obama is from Chicago, he doesn’t know anyone that can past the vetting process.

Capitalist Infidel on September 7, 2009 at 3:47 PM

As someone put it, “He wasn’t vetted…he was vouched for. In the circles Obama and his cronies run in, Van Jones is a moderate.

It’s the Chicago way.

jamie gumm on September 7, 2009 at 3:47 PM

The most calamitous adminstration evah.

BuckeyeSam on September 7, 2009 at 3:47 PM

Can we get anything using the Freedom of Information Act?

Does it cover this sort of thing?

.

ms on September 7, 2009 at 3:48 PM

And why isn’t Valerie Jarrett having her head handed to her?

Ahhhh that’s right…she is a friend of Obama’s.

SmallGovtGuy on September 7, 2009 at 3:31 PM

If someone bothers to do a little backround on Valerie she won’t hold up to scruntiny either. AS is so eloquently illustrated in MM’s Culture of Corruption Valerie & Michelle are two peas in the smae cronyism pod. And surely there were laws broken, not to mention the unsavory image, of leaving destsitute families in 30* below temps without heat when she was slumlord Rezko’s property manager.

But for my money, I’m betting that Glenn Beck and the Right-wing blogospere will target Mark Lloyd next. Going after Bambam’s Czars will prove to be a target rich enviroment.

Archimedes on September 7, 2009 at 3:48 PM

Questionair??

Perhaps they assumed he wouldn’t read that before signing it either…

katy on September 7, 2009 at 3:48 PM

Why would Obozo’s friend need to fill out a vetting form and go through the FBI background check. Didn’t everybody already know he would fail?

But why: — The answer to the mystery lies with Hugo Chavez. He does the exact same thing, uses a series of ‘Chavez advisers’ and the same cabinet ministers. The only purpose the cabinet ministers serve is as a public whipping boy when things go wrong. It’s a dual system set up to use a shadow government as the part that gets things done, the visible part takes the blame. And they get fired regularly to make like Chavez is actually punishing someone for their mistakes.

Why are we tolerating the UNCONSTITUTIONAL shadow government? Why is Congress tolerating the usurpation of their rightful oversight power.

tarpon on September 7, 2009 at 3:48 PM

This is what happens when a woman gets a crush on a hot-lookin’ dude: all reason goes out the window and you totally overlook all the flags. You know they’re there. You just don’t care.

I betcha Valerie Jarrett played the Name Comparison game with Van Johnson’s name. She probably thought that even though there weren’t many matching letters, the fact that they both have the same first initials must have meant true love.

VJ and VJ sittin’ in a tree
K-I-S-S-I-N-G

misslizzi on September 7, 2009 at 3:48 PM

Sandy Burglar had the only copy of the questionnaire before Vince Foster ripped it up and put it back in his brief case.

Sloppy.

Geochelone on September 7, 2009 at 3:48 PM

Hey, second exit question:

If Jones wasn’t vetted and this is some kind of issue, then why did he resign as opposed to being fired?

LibTired on September 7, 2009 at 3:48 PM

This is not an “oversight” as damning as that is. This is deliberate. The White House is being staffed by people that are so radical they cannot pass an FBI background investigation.

Take it from Obama’s own political godmother Michelle and Barack’s consigliere and Chicago powerbroker Valerie Jarrett took full credit at the nuttroots dKos blogger conference last month (August 15, 2009) for recruiting him and closely following his career:

JARRETT:. You guys know Van Jones? [Applause. Moderator injects: "This is his house apparently."]

JARRETT: Oooh. Van Jones, alright! So, Van Jones. We were so delighted to be able to recruit him into the White House. We were watching him, uh, really, he’s not that old, for as long as he’s been active out in Oakland. And all the creative ideas he has. And so now, we have captured that. And we have all that energy in the White House.

http://michellemalkin.com/2009/09/03/van-jones-valerie-jarrett-barack-obama-do-it-yourself-vetting/

elduende on September 7, 2009 at 3:49 PM

TN Mom on September 7, 2009 at 3:46 PM

wow… thats classic…

Romeo13 on September 7, 2009 at 3:49 PM

“It’s just fair to say that he didn’t go through the most rigorous vetting process.”

Team Obama set up an elaborate Snitch Central and obtained private emails, but can’t operate a google search?!?!?!

TN Mom on September 7, 2009 at 3:50 PM

I think they’ve chosen between the two bad choices they have: to claim they didn’t put him through any sort of vetting process, or to admit they knew all about him and thought he was a good choice.

capitalist piglet on September 7, 2009 at 3:43 PM

I think you’re right and choice 2 is the truth. But choice 1 is a dangerous limb to climb out on, not least because it invites scrutiny of every other czar in office.

They will do anything to protect Jarrett.

If the MSM would take its job seriously and press them hard for for just a couple days this story would explode.

Missy on September 7, 2009 at 3:50 PM

This isn’t what they said last November – it was supposed to be filled out by every candidate for Cabinet and other high-ranking positions in the incoming administration.

http://speakmymindblog.com/2009/09/06/did-van-jones-fill-out-the-administrations-application-questionnaire/

sherryande on September 7, 2009 at 3:50 PM

I expect the Obamatron to begin scouring the internet for any and all evidence linking other czars’ (in actuality, commissars’) controversial associations or remarks and destroying the evidence immediately.

ROCnPhilly on September 7, 2009 at 3:50 PM

Verified: The Vetting Czar has been caught not vetting the vettees.

faraway on September 7, 2009 at 3:45 PM

Didn’t The Precedent actually try to use that sort of argument back when he was having problems finding cabinet appointments that could make it through the Senate?

progressoverpeace on September 7, 2009 at 3:50 PM

Oh, COME ON. Does anyone really believe this was a vetting problem? He’s a Czar instead of a cabinet appointment BECAUSE they knew his background perfectly.

Daggett on September 7, 2009 at 3:51 PM

Hey, second exit question:

If Jones wasn’t vetted and this is some kind of issue, then why did he resign as opposed to being fired?

LibTired on September 7, 2009 at 3:48 PM

+1000

Daggett on September 7, 2009 at 3:51 PM

The entire questionnaire, the official said, is reserved for appointees who must win Senate confirmation…
Question: What is the reason for needing a czar?

ladyingray on September 7, 2009 at 3:42 PM

Madam, I beleive you just answered your own question.

Archimedes on September 7, 2009 at 3:52 PM

wow… thats classic…

Romeo13 on September 7, 2009 at 3:49 PM

I used yahoo search… guess I’m not gonna be offered a job with team obama!

TN Mom on September 7, 2009 at 3:52 PM

Impeachment? Pfffffft….
The Republicans have barely even lifted their sleeping heads up from the desk. Although the I would like to see the Dems eat their own, it is highly unlikely that they will go into full on cannibalism.

We the people will have to continue taking this fight to them.

Clear house in 2010. All of ‘em.

donkichi on September 7, 2009 at 3:53 PM

This is not an “oversight” as damning as that is. This is deliberate. The White House is being staffed by people that are so radical they cannot pass an FBI background investigation.

elduende on September 7, 2009 at 3:49 PM

Exactly. If they could pass investigative muster, there would be no need for any of them to exist as “czars.”

misslizzi on September 7, 2009 at 3:53 PM

The administration knew full well his background and his rhetoric.

They ignored and thought that they had batted down Palin’s remark, “palling around with radicals.”

She’s had staying power, even in retirement, so he was far too dangerous to keep.

I get all this. Honestly, he could have a lot to offer on green economy. I’m sure not against solutions. I am put off by the racial overtones. People don’t deliberately pollute minority home areas for that motive.

Poor is poor. They tend to live in the least desirable places.

But that’s poor, not racism.

AnninCA on September 7, 2009 at 3:53 PM

All roads lead to Bill Ayers and the Weather Underground

faraway on September 7, 2009 at 3:41 PM

Too true.

Verified: The Vetting Czar has been caught not vetting the vettees.

faraway on September 7, 2009 at 3:45 PM

Obviously the vetting czar wasn’t vetted properly.

Daggett on September 7, 2009 at 3:53 PM

If Jones wasn’t vetted and this is some kind of issue, then why did he resign as opposed to being fired?

LibTired on September 7, 2009 at 3:48 PM

GREAT question.

Missy on September 7, 2009 at 3:54 PM

This isn’t what they said last November – it was supposed to be filled out by every candidate for Cabinet and other high-ranking positions in the incoming administration.

http://speakmymindblog.com/2009/09/06/did-van-jones-fill-out-the-administrations-application-questionnaire/

sherryande on September 7, 2009 at 3:50 PM

Thanks for link.

TN Mom on September 7, 2009 at 3:55 PM

Its interesting this revolution of ours. What’s the tipping point? Are Facebook, Youtube and blogs going to control the message?

I thought the idea was to control the message? If Obama wants to play defense, game on, he’s going to plump the audience for all of talk radio.

Lonetown on September 7, 2009 at 3:55 PM

You would think that Barry would get better Czar mileage, especially for the Green Czar.

Geochelone on September 7, 2009 at 3:55 PM

Red meat.

Philly on September 7, 2009 at 3:56 PM

But I thought the American people could handle the truth….

Seven Percent Solution on September 7, 2009 at 3:56 PM

… because we already knew what would be on it, and were OK with it, and were really hoping that you folks out there couldn’t be bothered to find out…

shaken on September 7, 2009 at 3:56 PM

Just for giggles… from the Atlantic.
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I’m fairly sure that the writer meant to say ‘did not censor his political thoughts…’

A Hundred Ways Of Looking At Van Jones

Van Jones is a man who did censor his political thoughts, did not hesitate to pursue the logical consequences of his beliefs and did not care what others thought of his affiliations. In other words, he is a man who has no business whatsoever serving in government, where such candor knows no quarters — particularly for a man of the left. Mr. Jones resigned on Saturday after it became clear that the White House had no intention of lending its institutional credibility to defend him.

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Freudian slip perhaps?
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There are a few more laughs near the bottom, i.e…
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Is Jones the victim of a racist conspiracy? There is no evidence that racism motivated opposition to Van Jones.

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Actually there is such evidence… that Jones has racist leanings. That label has now become a very strong weapon of the right. Let’s apply it wisely and with great accuracy, least we weaken it’s power… as the left has done by over using it.
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RalphyBoy on September 7, 2009 at 3:57 PM

faraway on September 7, 2009 at 3:45 PM

I was a little off, but I was referencing The Precedent’s babbling from back in June:

SEN. BARACK OBAMA: I am not vetting my VP Search Committee for their mortgages. You’re going to have to direct – it becomes sort of a – this is a game that can be played – everybody, who is tangentially related to our campaign, I think, is going to have a whole host of relationships. I would have to hire the vetter to vet the vetters. I mean at some point, we just asked people to do their assignments. Jim Johnson has a very discrete task, as does Eric Holder, and that is simply to gather up information about potential vice presidential candidates. They’re performing that job well. It’s a volunteer, unpaid position. And they’re giving me information, and I will then exercise judgment in terms of who I want to select as a vice presidential candidate. So these aren’t folks who are working for me, they’re not people who I have assigned to a particular job in a future administration. And ultimately, my assumption is that this is a discrete task that they are going to be performing for me over the next two months.

No one can say The Precedent didn’t telegraph exactly what he was going to be doing, and how shoddily he would do it.

progressoverpeace on September 7, 2009 at 3:57 PM

So I have a question: even if there’s no vetting questionnaire, he must have filled out a questionnaire to get his security clearance and West Wing badge (and, one hopes, to be allowed to get close to the President). How did he answer the question “have you ever been a member of a group dedicated to the violent overthrow of the US Federal Government.”

Did he lie and say “no?” If so is it a legal document such that his lie rises to the level of perjury?

And if he said “yes” did the White House just shrug it off?

omriceren on September 7, 2009 at 3:57 PM

cs89 on September 7, 2009 at 3:30 PM

It will take a Congress that has a bigger pair than the Atomic Force Microscope is currently able to picture.

chemman on September 7, 2009 at 3:58 PM

Here’s the problem, Obama is from Chicago, he doesn’t know anyone that can past the vetting process.

Capitalist Infidel on September 7, 2009 at 3:47 PM

BINGO! Give that man a cupie-doll!

Archimedes on September 7, 2009 at 3:59 PM

Help Wanted:

Obama Administration

Background checks and resume NOT required.

Whisky Tango Foxtrot?

TN Mom on September 7, 2009 at 3:59 PM

An administration official said Jones never hid his controversial associations or remarks from the White House.

They already knew who and what he is. Thats why they hired him.

He’s bozo without the mask.

dogsoldier on September 7, 2009 at 3:59 PM

“short circuit the vetting policy” Very thin ice this. Something we should be pushing with Congress. This loop hole needs to be firmly closed.

jeanie on September 7, 2009 at 4:00 PM

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