Quotes of the day

posted at 10:05 pm on September 7, 2009 by Allahpundit

“The obvious rejoinder to these points is that Jones supposedly brought this on himself by long ago making a mistake and signing a misguided petition about 9/11. Obviously, he made a mistake – and he admitted that. But even if you don’t accept that apology or admission of fault, the idea that him signing that petition means he’s worthy of removal is just a pathetic argument that highlights the most damning hypocrisies of all. For instance, are we really expected to believe that Jones signing one random petition is a bigger problem than, say, Geithner accepting free room and board for the industry he is supposed to be regulating?…

Hence, we can be assured the original targeting of Jones was a calculated move with race in mind – a move designed to fit the criticism into a larger racial backlash framework first perfected in the 1980s. That framework has created a simple reality: In America, governmental advancement is wide open for right-wing movement players, and you can even vaguely hope for a seat at the political table if you are a white progressive former hippe-turned-yuppie liberal. But if you are a black person with any enduring loyalty to progressive movement or social justice activism, the loud and clear message from politicians and the media is that you are not welcome anywhere near the halls of power, because you will be billed as some nefarious combination of Al Sharpton, Huey Newton, Malcolm X, Stokely Carmichael and Willie Horton.”

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“Now, thanks to Glenn Beck, we’ve got that voice back. No longer tied to his desk with a sock in his mouth, Van is now freed to do what he does best: inspire and energize groups around the country…

I despise 9/11 ‘truther’ conspiracies. Indeed, one of the guidelines for bloggers on HuffPost is a ban on posts putting forth those kinds of theories. And it was stupid of Van to put his name on a very stupid ’9/11 Truth Statement.’ I’ve spoken to Van. He doesn’t believe that the Bush administration orchestrated the 9/11 attacks or allowed the attacks to happen in a cold-hearted attempt to gin up support. The 9/11 ‘Truthers’ are fringe-dwellers and Van was completely wrong to allow himself to be associated with them…

Isn’t it time we acknowledge that no human being with any passion and deeply held beliefs ever emerged flawless into the world? And that if every mistake, misstep, boneheaded decision, or error in judgment becomes an automatic disqualifier for public service, then we’re going to be left with a political landscape filled with nothing but wrinkle-free, foible-free, passionless automatons who have never made a mistake because they never took the risk of having an original thought.”


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It takes a special type of stupid to believe 9/11 theories

blatantblue on September 7, 2009 at 10:07 PM

By the way, his first name isn’t Van. It’s Anthony. He changed it – probably for “street cred.”

Wethal on September 7, 2009 at 10:07 PM

Um, ok.

artist on September 7, 2009 at 10:08 PM

Van committed one to many thoughtcrimes. Another victim of the right’s PC police.

crr6 on September 7, 2009 at 10:08 PM

crr6 on September 7, 2009 at 10:08 PM

lol haha
oh trolly

blatantblue on September 7, 2009 at 10:10 PM

Incredible. I really thought this guy was indefensible. They proved me wrong.

Also, what’s the big freaking deal with protecting this guy</em? Can’t they get another Green Jobs Czar who’s equally radical but doesn’t come with the kind of baggage Beck can easily dig into? There has to be SOMEONE out there willing to tax companies over carbon dioxide until they bow to his will other than the almight Saint Van.

Sheesh.

jimmy the notable on September 7, 2009 at 10:11 PM

crr6 on September 7, 2009 at 10:08 PM

Projection is best done in a theater.

daesleeper on September 7, 2009 at 10:11 PM

For instance, are we really expected to believe that Jones signing one random petition is a bigger problem than, say, Geithner accepting free room and board for the industry he is supposed to be regulating?…

You’ve got me there leftie. Let’s kick Timmy out of the Obama Administration too!

18-1 on September 7, 2009 at 10:12 PM

And that if every mistake, misstep, boneheaded decision, or error in judgment becomes an automatic disqualifier for public service

Now that right there is a very special kind of hypocrisy…Can you imagine her writing that in defense of Bush, Cheney, Palin, etc?

JAM on September 7, 2009 at 10:12 PM

The only question that is unanswered…who in the White House received his FBI report and who overruled it?

d1carter on September 7, 2009 at 10:12 PM

I think this is a better HuffyPo quote:

The real Obama turns out to be very different from the Obama imagined by so many who projected their own hopes and needs onto a neophyte whose courage on issues never matched his audacity in pursuing personal ambition. That is as much the fault of naïve admirers as it is his. This concocted Messiah has neither message nor mission. A close look at what he says, resisting the dazzling rhetorical flourishes, should have revealed that early on. He is very much a man of his times: weak or absent convictions, dispassion about even grievous wrongs, incapacity for moral outrage, a ready assimilation of fads and fashions……Obama the self-serving egoist needs the votes of progressive and simply decent, responsible people to enjoy the personal gratification of being president for eight rather than only four years.

Kool aid has worn off.

pearson on September 7, 2009 at 10:12 PM

I saw Sirota on CNN today. What a flaming commie/progressive.

If they hate the US so much why the hell don’t they pack it up and split!

katy on September 7, 2009 at 10:13 PM

Van Jones claims to speak for immigrants.

Well, my family is a family of immigrants, and he doesn’t speak for us. In the 1960′s, many members of my family were rotting in communist gulags. We cam to this country to ESCAPE communism. Jones and his fellow travelers want to enslave us all over again. Thanks a lot, a–hole.

bitsy on September 7, 2009 at 10:13 PM

crr6 on September 7, 2009 at 10:08 PM

Then he’s not the committed man you were deceived into believing he was. I’m sad for you. Maybe you guys will find some worthy leaders someday. Until then, pansies like him who can’t take the heat will just have continue to play victims to the all powerful minority party, and the wrath of McConnell and Snowe.

Weight of Glory on September 7, 2009 at 10:13 PM

I have been away over the weekend…Has CJ fell on his sword yet?

d1carter on September 7, 2009 at 10:13 PM

Can’t they get another Green Jobs Czar who’s equally radical but doesn’t come with the kind of baggage Beck can easily dig into? There has to be SOMEONE out there willing to tax companies over carbon dioxide until they bow to his will other than the almight Saint Van.

Well, two things.

1) The Obama Administration presumed that the State Media wouldn’t publicize their little troofer problem, and in this they were correct, but Mr Beck forced their hand.

2) Trooferism and communism aren’t that uncommon on the left anymore. Yes, leftist politicians get good at hiding their real beliefs in this regard, but Van Jones isn’t much of a politician.

18-1 on September 7, 2009 at 10:14 PM

Of course being an avowed communist has nothing to do with any of this. It’s just racism huh?

conservnut on September 7, 2009 at 10:14 PM

Van committed one to many thoughtcrimes. Another victim of the right’s PC police.

crr6 on September 7, 2009 at 10:08 PM

Of course, you are OK with his radical, communist beliefs. Most Americans are not.

hillbillyjim on September 7, 2009 at 10:14 PM

And how about the forum he sponsored on the same subject?

Vashta.Nerada on September 7, 2009 at 10:14 PM

This issue with Van Jones has always been about SO MUCH MORE than a signature on a petition. This is how the progressives like to trivialize this story.

pjean on September 7, 2009 at 10:15 PM

He’s freaking admitted Communist and racist! He does not believe the Truther conspiracy espoused by the organization whose petition he signed? Then he’s a stupid Communist to boot!

enoughalready on September 7, 2009 at 10:15 PM

Cry babies on the left. Wee, wee! With 9-11 coming do you really want to have a 9-11 Truther in a prominently position at the White House?

milemarker2020 on September 7, 2009 at 10:15 PM

Full disclosure: Van and I have been good friends for many years. We’ve worked together on a number of projects, I’ve written about his efforts to fight abuses in the criminal justice system, he’s blogged on HuffPost since soon after we launched, and I’ve watched him hold an audience spellbound at a wide range of events — from progressive gatherings to the World Economic Forum.

And I’ve never failed to be impressed by Van. He is a remarkable man. One of the things I’ve always found so impressive about him — and something completely lost in the partisan mudslinging — is his ability to build coalitions and create unlikely alliances.

–Arianna Huffington

Once you go Van, you never go back?

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on September 7, 2009 at 10:15 PM

How to Defeat the Left

http://frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=36189

….This why the only argument that leftists have in their public encounters with others is not an argument at all but an indictment: racist, sexist, homophobe, Islamophobe. In the religion of leftists — in the fevered universe of the virus — the world is an endless plain of battle in which forces of Good (leftists) are ranged against the forces of Evil (the rest of us). At stake is the redemption of the world — or as the environmental totalitarians like to put it, the survival of the planet. No wonder they are deaf to any fact or argument that would bring them back to earth.

The only way to defeat the left — and I have failed in twenty years of arguing this to persuade conservatives — is to turn the table around and attack their moral self-image. Leftists are in fact the enemies and oppressors of women, children, gays, minorities and the poor, and conservatives should never confront them without reminding them of this fact. If Naomi Wolf and her radical friends had their way, America would be disarmed and radical Islam would be triumphant and women would be back in the Middle Ages, and the rest of us along with them.

izoneguy on September 7, 2009 at 10:15 PM

Van committed one to many thoughtcrimes. Another victim of the right’s PC police.

crr6 on September 7, 2009 at 10:08 PM

back under your rock libturd

bill30097 on September 7, 2009 at 10:16 PM

Uhh, but if he didn’t do anything wriong, why’d he quit? Remember what the left said about Palin? Quiter.

Besides, what he did and the things he said were not mistakes. They were accurate reflections of who he is and what he thinks. Signing the petetion on 9/11 only became a mistkae after it became an issue. Had it gone unnoticed, it would have been something he would have bragged about later.

MikeA on September 7, 2009 at 10:16 PM

Isn’t it time we acknowledge that no human being with any passion and deeply held beliefs ever emerged flawless into the world? And that if every mistake, misstep, boneheaded decision, or error in judgment becomes an automatic disqualifier for public service, then we’re going to be left with a political landscape filled with nothing but wrinkle-free, foible-free, passionless automatons who have never made a mistake because they never took the risk of having an original thought.”

Suddenly she developes compassion and understanding for “errors in judgment”. Political perspective is a funny thing.

surrounded on September 7, 2009 at 10:16 PM

Once you go Van, you never go back?

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on September 7, 2009 at 10:15 PM

She is a commie also – what do you expect?

izoneguy on September 7, 2009 at 10:16 PM

If VJ was so defendable they would have defended him when he still had a job, not when the only thing left was a martyr’s eulogy.

Hippy-crites

Mr Snuggle Bunny on September 7, 2009 at 10:17 PM

There has to be SOMEONE out there willing to tax companies over carbon dioxide until they bow to his will other than the almight Saint Van.

Sheesh.

jimmy the notable on September 7, 2009 at 10:11 PM

Because that is the role of government, and will pull us out of the slump, for sure.
/

Vashta.Nerada on September 7, 2009 at 10:17 PM

Regardless of political ideology I believe most Americans can come to an agreement that you don’t have conspiracy theorists in high places of government.

If he believes things like the government being “in” on murdering its own citizens, which would have had to factor in thousands of different government officials’ complacency, then he would be prone to essentially take the jack-hammer on many institutions and policies under the same rubric of thought.

Needless to say, very dangerous.

ckoeber on September 7, 2009 at 10:18 PM

Oh puhleeze. It wasn’t just the truther petition, i.e. just a single instance. It was ties to communist organizations, and numerous other things that established his radical anti-American viewpoint that should disqualify him from serving in the government he has worked to destroy.

Those of us in the real world who work in sensitive industries are required to fill out forms that ask the question, ‘are you now, or have you ever been an officer or official [used to say "a member of"] any organization that promotes the violent [this used to be omitted] overthrow of the United States government?’ Van could not answer that question in the negative.

Color? His color has nothing to do with this.

Tim Geitner? Baaad example there Huffpo. Those of us on the right vehemently opposed the nomination and openly ridiculed the fact that someone who couldn’t file their own taxes was now going to oversee the agency in charge of making sure we filed our own. We had insufficient voice to stop the nomination.

You see, we don’t look at the color of a man’s skin, we look at the evil that is in their hearts as evidenced by their past activities. So far, the majority of the Obama administration fail this scrutiny.

AZfederalist on September 7, 2009 at 10:18 PM

Van committed one to many thoughtcrimes. Another victim of the right’s PC police.

crr6 on September 7, 2009 at 10:08 PM

The real police aren’t too pleased wtih him, as he supports Mumia, who has been on death row in PA for years for shooting a cop in the back. Mumia, byt he way, has had appeal after appeal, and the conviction has been upheld. Now the death sentence appeal is still pending. But Mumia is guilty. You’d think an Ivy League lawyer would figure that out.

Wethal on September 7, 2009 at 10:19 PM

vI despise 9/11 ‘truther’ conspiracies. Indeed, one of the guidelines for bloggers on HuffPost is a ban on posts putting forth those kinds of theories.

Wasn’t it HuffPoo that was last week defending Van, Anthony, whaddevahhisnameis, saying that he was ‘just saying what %35 of the Democrat Party believes’?

/just sayin’

bikermailman on September 7, 2009 at 10:19 PM

How in the world can they ignore all of the other things he has said. My personal favorite was that white people and white environmentalists are polluting minority neighborhoods. Isn’t that sticking it in the eye of what would probably be his most enthusiastic constituencies? It is not going to be pretty to watch the Left make a martyr out of Mr. Jones by ignoring what is in front of their face.

Cindy Munford on September 7, 2009 at 10:19 PM

Good Lord, Allah? Two quotes from Puff Ho? I know it was a slow news day, but…

sondiehl on September 7, 2009 at 10:19 PM

Van committed one to many thoughtcrimes. Another victim of the right’s PC police.

crr6 on September 7, 2009 at 10:08 PM

Thought crimes are the Alinsky play for controlling stupid liberals. As a Communist, Van Jones’ commissions in the Federal Government were treasonous, not just that he is stupid and a liar. A Communist is an enemy of the State and of course not compatible with the United States Constitution.

enoughalready on September 7, 2009 at 10:20 PM

But if you are a black person with any enduring loyalty to progressive movement or social justice activism, the loud and clear message from politicians and the media is that you are not welcome anywhere near the halls of power

Answer me why a republican administration would want an openly liberal person of any color working for them?

Again, it`s not the color of ones skin, but the content of the character.

ThePrez on September 7, 2009 at 10:20 PM

“Now, thanks to Glenn Beck, we’ve got that voice back. No longer tied to his desk with a sock in his mouth, Van is now freed to do what he does best: inspire and energize groups around the country…

Sounds like a threat, and may well be. Hey HA fans, let us follow up the midnight resignation with:

1. What was his Title
2. His Salary and Budget
3. How many jobs did he create in his short tenure

That’s all I really want to know.

seesalrun on September 7, 2009 at 10:20 PM

We now know that the MSM is officially dead…but could someone ask Valerie Jarrett what she knew of Van Jones and what conversations she had about his acceptance on the White House team?

d1carter on September 7, 2009 at 10:21 PM

Van committed one to many thoughtcrimes. Another victim of the right’s PC police.

crr343 on September 7, 2009 at 10:08 PM

LOL! “Victim”? He was busted by his own words and actions.

Besides, the adults are in charge now. How could the right take him down?

getalife.

Del Dolemonte on September 7, 2009 at 10:21 PM

News flash……………………………….

This is it folks… the real deal certified and documented…

American reporter risks it all-files affidavit and Obama’s Kenyan birth certificate in federal court

A legal affidavit that declares Lucas Smith (American from Iowa) to be of sound mind and judgment. Lucas can go to jail if he lied on this affidavit. The document filed is a (Certified COPY of Obama Kenyan Birth Certificate) you see here, once it is validated by the court, is pretty much the proverbial “smoking gun.”
Flash Back: remember the birthers wanted a copy of Certificate of Live Birth that had the attending physician listed, raised seal, and maybe an infants foot print.

Here’s one that was filed in federal court and the procurer has put his life on the line swearing its authentic and if not he could be send to jail for perjury.

See high res affidavit and birth certificate here.

The birthers’ suit claims that Obama is a citizen of Indonesia and “possibly still citizen of Kenya, usurping the position of the President of the United States of America and the Commander-in-Chief.”

The Department of Justice lawyers (the tax payers) are picking up Obama’s tab on legal fees. Ironically all this is going on because Obama won’t release a copy (image, picture) of is original Certificate of Live Birth.) Americans aren’t stupid and we know your hiding something. No normal, legitimate American would not hesitate to show his original COLB Instead our President won’t release the supposed Hawaiian original and uses pathetic rhetoric to defend his illogical actions.

The Kenyan COLB has a legitimate Doctor who was practicing at the time, a REAL hospital and an infant’s footprint

doriangrey on September 7, 2009 at 10:21 PM

At least Ariana, unlike the NYT, knows what truthers are. Too bad he “allowed” himself to be associated for him, for political gain. BO said judge him by the people he appoints. Too bad he “allowed” himself to be associated with VJ.

Spirit of 1776 on September 7, 2009 at 10:21 PM

Cry babies on the left. Wee, wee! With 9-11 coming do you really want to have a 9-11 Truther in a prominently position at the White House?

milemarker2020 on September 7, 2009 at 10:15 PM

Hmm. Think about this for a moment.

Obama has been busy apologizing to the world since being elected, but he has especially focused on the Islamic world, and even there the most Islamist parts of the Islamic world..

Obama has done his best to cripple America’s anti-terrorism resources while prosecuting the individuals responsible for stopping the Islamist threat for these last eight years.

Obama, at best, doesn’t see trooferism as a big issue, and a number of troofers came out for him big time, like Zinn.

So, could we already have a troofer in the white house? As the Obamedia likes to say, I am just asking questions…

18-1 on September 7, 2009 at 10:21 PM

Van Jones must have been forced to quit because there is a lot more where this all came from.

enoughalready on September 7, 2009 at 10:22 PM

Van committed one to many thoughtcrimes. Another victim of the right’s PC police.

crr6 on September 7, 2009 at 10:08 PM

Something you’ll never be guilty of.

BigWyo on September 7, 2009 at 10:22 PM

Minimizing, minimalization…an effective tool to use if applied consistently and never straying from the target. Said often enough, it works its way into the pantheon of truth.

Akin to the oft used, “He’s never done anything like this before, he was such a good student, and he loved his parents,” as neighbors seek to somehow quantify the horror of this good student and loving son who decided one evening to butcher his parents while they slept…or any other such scenario.

The 9-11 “troofer” portion of Jones’ history is but a minor portion of the overall person of Van Jones.

That he would be elevated to the position of White House paid insider, without Congressional scrutiny is the entire point about the controversy over Jones and the host of other such czars.

Yet, the focus is now on Jones’ alleged signing of a “troofer” petititon…minimizing, covering up, disregarding the other more flagrant aspects of Jones’ political history. Minimalizing Jones’ transgressions as some sort of misstep on his part, or some sort of reactionary knee-jerk effort on the part of the right to defame Jones, this is what the post-Jones effort is directed toward.

He did not just stumble into his former position as Green Jobs Czar, he was welcomed in to that position, a fellow traveler with the same sort of vision as his employer, the president.

That in itself is enough to make any thinking American stop and take notice as to what direction this Administration wishes to lead this nation.

Eschew minimalization. Do not allow the Left to write the post-script.

coldwarrior on September 7, 2009 at 10:22 PM

Van committed one to many thoughtcrimes. Another victim of the right’s PC police.

crr6 on September 7, 2009 at 10:08 PM

Wow. You are dumber than I thought.

ladyingray on September 7, 2009 at 10:22 PM

Race card, again.

*sigh*

You people are starting to annoy me.

davidk on September 7, 2009 at 10:22 PM

It takes a special type of stupid to believe 9/11 theories

blatantblue on September 7, 2009 at 10:07 PM

Apparently my parents are beginning to strictly adhere to that type of stupid. *sigh*

Darth Executor on September 7, 2009 at 10:22 PM

Arianna is very transparent: there was once a point recently in time you could find no less than 4 pictures of Glenn Beck on her front page at the same time, now that he’s aided in the forced resignation of an Obama official he’s nowhere to be found, and she’s using pop-reverse psychology 101. “He totally meant to do that. Get fired, you know. He didn’t want to spend 30 billion on his projects anyway. He totally told me.”

Marcus on September 7, 2009 at 10:22 PM

I expect crickets then a full bronzing of this character who has done nothing noteworthy for the general public or this Country.

Name me one thing and I’ll let it go.

seesalrun on September 7, 2009 at 10:23 PM

Please tell me that it wasn’t just the troofer thing. Good grief! This man did more damage with the words he spoke on camera between 2000 to Spring of 2009.

Between whitey poisoning the ghetto, corporate farmers spraying toxins on illegal immigrants and we must redistribute the wealth, his words did him in. Okay, Obama also said the last quote too but the MSM let him slide on that one like they are letting Obama slide with pretty much everything he is doing to unravel the constitution.

Thank God, Rush, Beck and hell even O’Reilly are back from vacation tomorrow. It will be great to hear their reaction to the weekends fun and entertainment.

Atlanta Media Guy on September 7, 2009 at 10:23 PM

Apparently my parents are beginning to strictly adhere to that type of stupid. *sigh*

Darth Executor on September 7, 2009 at 10:22 PM

really????

damn

blatantblue on September 7, 2009 at 10:23 PM

My God! I am tight off cheap red wine and pigs are flyin’ . Mark Hill, the urban studies instructor on FNC, says Obama knew all along who he was hiring when he hired VJ, and he faults Obama for throwing him under the bus.

The lines of battle are forming.

petefrt on September 7, 2009 at 10:24 PM

Van committed one to many thoughtcrimes. Another victim of the right’s PC police.

crr6 on September 7, 2009 at 10:08 PM

Some of the few times I have commented have been to stick up for “trolls”, cuz I think reading a buncha “bubble” stuff is boring, so I’m just honestly asking…are you a kid, or what?

surrounded on September 7, 2009 at 10:24 PM

one random petition

the risk of having an original thought.

It’s all so full of preciously pricelessly preciousness.

Stephen M on September 7, 2009 at 10:25 PM

I love how everyone limits their scope to trutherism and/or calling republicans “a$$holes.” If that’s ALL it was about, then Jones still deserved to go — but it’s too easy to make a credible-sounding argument when you limit the offenses to just those two things.

How about:

1. Defending cop killers and persecuting the police in San Francisco.

2. Making up racist fairy tales like white people are poisoning minorities.

3. Making up racist fairy tales like whitey is spraying toxins on immigrants.

4. Being an avowed communist.

5. Planning a socialist/fascist revolution that is way out of step with America’s constitution and its foundation.

Need I go on? How about we inject some of those things into the argument sometimes, huh?

Daggett on September 7, 2009 at 10:25 PM

The obvious rejoinder to these points is that Jones supposedly brought this on himself by long ago making a mistake and signing a misguided petition about 9/11.

LOL. It’s the Marxism and attempt to destroy the US, stupid. Here are two clues for the clueless:

1) Jones’ group was called:

Standing Together to Organize a Revolutionary Movement

2) As HuffPo said:

Jones, however, left radical politics and made the decision to work within the system, rather than try to overthrow it.

Of course, HuffPo tried to pretty up the fact that Jones never left radical politics, but decided that it was easier to destroy the system from within than from the outside. That’s why the marxist slug had to go. Many, many more marxists to go, with The Precedent being chief marxist.

But it is cute that they keep throwing race up. They are pushing for race riots and they will probably get them. Race riots are the leftists’ wet dream.

progressoverpeace on September 7, 2009 at 10:25 PM

Not a word about his communist ties or the fact that he is a race-baiting, cop-hating aggitator of the lowest form.
Thank you, Cuffington Post. You have reminded me why I despise you and dismiss all who read your rag.
You have once again, swallowed it whole.

HornetSting on September 7, 2009 at 10:25 PM

Why he is as American as apple pie! Speaking of which I have two, from scratch, pies in the oven. One is decorated with a big happy face on it. Maybe I’ll send that one to Van. A pie across the aisle, so to speak.

Limerick on September 7, 2009 at 10:25 PM

I am convinced that the left is going to start a race war with their race baiting and injecting of race into the issue. Perhaps the dems are worried that they might lose one of their most solid demographics.

clement on September 7, 2009 at 10:26 PM

Van committed one to many thoughtcrimes. Another victim of the right’s PC police.

crr6 on September 7, 2009 at 10:08 PM

Two issues:

1) “The right” have no power to remove one of Ogabe’s “czars”. They are appointed by the Ogabe perpetual campaign, are apparently not vetted in any way other than Dear Leader’s own personal whim, and are not subject to the advice and consent of the congress. Ogabe fired him when his whim changed…period.

2) In your comment, I believe you are looking for the word “too”, as in “too many”. The three words which are all pronounced “too” often confuse the functionally illiterate. There is “two”, a whole number, as 1 + 1; there is “to”, a preposition used for expressing motion or direction toward a point, person, place, or thing; and there is “too”, an adverb, meaning in addition; also.

“Thoughtcrimes” is not a word, but two words. Two, as in 1 + 1.

Jaibones on September 7, 2009 at 10:27 PM

doriangrey on September 7, 2009 at 10:21 PM

Look, if you are going to villify Van Jones on his theories, you have to apply the same standard to yourself.

There has been NO proof of him being born anywhere but in the state of Hawaii. This “evidence” that you link to is no more “true” then anything else that you have brought forth. (“You” here being the birther movement.)

Two newspapers announced the birth, for cryingout loud. How does Obama fake that?

You are now being silly. You cannot accept the truth, plan and simple.

ckoeber on September 7, 2009 at 10:27 PM

Alternate theory: crr6 is actually AP, throws some softballs over the plate to gin up comments. Greater likelihood than the troofers, no?

bikermailman on September 7, 2009 at 10:27 PM

Arianna doesn’t get it. It’s all Greek to her.

SouthernGent on September 7, 2009 at 10:28 PM

Speaking of which I have two, from scratch, pies in the oven. One is decorated with a big happy face on it. Maybe I’ll send that one to Van. A pie across the aisle, so to speak.

Limerick on September 7, 2009 at 10:25 PM

To quote the (communist) movie line: what kind of pies?

Jaibones on September 7, 2009 at 10:28 PM

The “Truther” deal was made worse by Mr. Jones suggestion that he had failed to read what he was signing on to, please lets give him large amounts of money to disperse. Not that I think much of it was going further then where it would benefit him, if not now, in the future.

Cindy Munford on September 7, 2009 at 10:28 PM

But if you are a black person with any enduring loyalty to progressive movement or social justice activism, the loud and clear message from politicians and the media is that you are not welcome anywhere near the halls of power, because you will be billed as some nefarious combination of Al Sharpton, Huey Newton, Malcolm X, Stokely Carmichael and Willie Horton.”

The Race Card is the most rapid-fire all purpose psy-ops weapon ever conceived by man. It has no pity. It has no remorse. It has no expiration date. It doesn’t even appear to have a half life. It may continue to exist indefinitely in some form even after time itself comes to an end.

MB4 on September 7, 2009 at 10:29 PM

“I serve as a black screen on which people of vastly different political stripes project their own views.”

The Audacity of Hope
Glad to see it still works Crr6. I wonder whether it will still work after he abandons the PO? Sniff.. Boo Hoo…

Dawnsblood on September 7, 2009 at 10:29 PM

No person is flawless, but I find his disturbing.

MestizoMaverick on September 7, 2009 at 10:29 PM

To quote the (communist) movie line: what kind of pies?

Jaibones on September 7, 2009 at 10:28 PM

Why Red apple, of course ;)

Limerick on September 7, 2009 at 10:29 PM

Arianna doesn’t get it. It’s all Greek to her.

SouthernGent on September 7, 2009 at 10:28 PM

LOL. Literally.

bikermailman on September 7, 2009 at 10:30 PM

petefrt on September 7, 2009 at 10:24 PM

Hill was mightly nervous tonight on Cavuto…time for some FOX reinforcements.

I swear everytime I catch a Dem proponent I am just astounded. Not in a good way.

seesalrun on September 7, 2009 at 10:30 PM

The “Truther” deal was made worse by Mr. Jones suggestion that he had failed to read what he was signing on to, please lets give him large amounts of money to disperse. Not that I think much of it was going further then where it would benefit him, if not now, in the future.

Cindy Munford on September 7, 2009 at 10:28 PM

That sounds like a perfect fit for the Obama administration to me.

18-1 on September 7, 2009 at 10:30 PM

crr6 on September 7, 2009 at 10:08 PM

He wasn’t fired. He resigned on his own. The question you have to ask yourself is this:

He’s your pretty standard modern liberal, yet his views are so repugnant to normal Americans that Obama didn’t want the splashback.

Think about that. His standard, progressive views are this political disastrous.

p0s3r on September 7, 2009 at 10:30 PM

Still on this Jones story aren’t we neocons? You give them a bone to suck on and they just won’t leave it alone. Typical con.

Afrolib on September 7, 2009 at 10:30 PM

Y’all ought to drop Mr. Sirota a line. His email is on his web site.

It’s worth it just to read the bounce-back message. He’s diagnosable.

Dubya Bee on September 7, 2009 at 10:30 PM

I despise 9/11 ‘truther’ conspiracies. Indeed, one of the guidelines for bloggers on HuffPost is a ban on posts putting forth those kinds of theories.

I was reading there tonight and one idiot liberal female book author there, who’s name I understandably block repeatedly, put the “fact” out there tonight that “80 percent of the public doubts what happened on 9/11″ when poor thing was actually thinking “80 percent of my friends.”

Marcus on September 7, 2009 at 10:31 PM

I saw Sirota on CNN today. What a flaming commie/progressive.

If they hate the US so much why the hell don’t they pack it up and split!

katy on September 7, 2009 at 10:13 PM

Because the fact that someone in the world is living free and in liberty rankles them to the utmost. They could no not leave the US and move to a place like the old USSR and be happy because they would know that there was a nation of people living free of their tyranny.

These statists can’t stand that thought. They want everyone in the world to be the beneficiaries of their compassionate tyranny. Because they know what’s best for us of course.

AZfederalist on September 7, 2009 at 10:31 PM

You give them a bone to suck on and they just won’t leave it alone. Typical con.

Afrolib on September 7, 2009 at 10:30 PM

We don’t stop until we get the marrow out.

Limerick on September 7, 2009 at 10:31 PM

I’d like to hear more from the left on what the “lies and smears” against Van Jones were. All I heard were clips and quotes of what Van Jones himself, SAID.

Please, list all of the “lies.”

Star20 on September 7, 2009 at 10:31 PM

I have nothing to add, but I’ll post it anyway.

Afrolib on September 7, 2009 at 10:30 PM

What?

Weight of Glory on September 7, 2009 at 10:31 PM

ckoeber on September 7, 2009 at 10:27 PM

How dense are you? dorian was noting the fact that the Kenyan BC has been tendered to the court and sworn to, under penalty of perjury. I don’t know if it’s real (I highly doubted it, myself) but the guy with it is willing to risk jail to have it in evidence and to swear to it. If it’s a fake, he’s off to jail. That’s a big risk. But, now we’ll all know exactly what that particular Kenyan BC is really about and discovery on the rest of the papers may be opened.

progressoverpeace on September 7, 2009 at 10:31 PM

I am convinced that the left is going to start a race war with their race baiting and injecting of race into the EVERY issue. Perhaps the dems are worried that they might lose one of their most solid demographics.

clement on September 7, 2009 at 10:26 PM

There ya go, hope you don’t mind.

surrounded on September 7, 2009 at 10:31 PM

I was reading there tonight and one idiot liberal female book author there, who’s name I understandably block repeatedly, put the “fact” out there tonight that “80 percent of the public doubts what happened on 9/11″ when poor thing was actually thinking “80 percent of my friends.”

Marcus on September 7, 2009 at 10:31 PM

No no no.

80% of the voices in her head.

18-1 on September 7, 2009 at 10:31 PM

NEOCONS!!eleventyth!! (da Joooooosssssssss)

bikermailman on September 7, 2009 at 10:31 PM

I am convinced that the left is going to start a race war with their race baiting and injecting of race into the issue. Perhaps the dems are worried that they might lose one of their most solid demographics.

clement on September 7, 2009 at 10:26 PM

I wish both sides of the aisle would stop bringing up race. My thing is this: we have a healthcare debate and regardless of where you stand the fact is that the Democratic causus and the Republican caucus have brought proposals on the table.

The Democratic caucus has been focusing on the public option part of their plan and the Republicans have been focused on taking down the Democratic plan. I believe the Democrates need to better explain what they are truly trying to achieve and the Republicans need to be putting in a far greater effort in putting light on their own proposals.

So, in short, less vermon and more debates on policy.

That’s something Democrats, Republicans, and Independants can get behind.

ckoeber on September 7, 2009 at 10:33 PM

Looks like Van Jones is “brilliant” in the same way Obama is “brilliant”….The lefties/media keep saying it,but dont/cant produce even one example of this supposed”brilliance”.

theTarCzar on September 7, 2009 at 10:33 PM

Jones, a graduate of an Ivy League law school, doesn’t read documents before signing them.

Imagine the advice to a client, “Hey, don’t bother to read it. I never do.”

Wethal on September 7, 2009 at 10:34 PM

Van committed one to many thoughtcrimes. Another victim of the right’s PC police.

crr6 on September 7, 2009 at 10:08 PM

And some actual crimes as well, tool.
If we had a thought police, where do you think you’d be?

massrighty on September 7, 2009 at 10:34 PM

Van is now freed to do what he does best: inspire and energize groups around the country…

Yeah, you do that.

Van committed one to many thoughtcrimes. Another victim of the right’s PC police.

crr6 on September 7, 2009 at 10:08 PM

The right didn’t remove him; they merely exposed him for what he is. If poor little Van can’t take the shame of being exposed as being somewhere to the left of Hugo Chavez and Fidel, that’s his problem.

ddrintn on September 7, 2009 at 10:34 PM

theTarCzar on September 7, 2009 at 10:33 PM

exactly. One job, one kid one adult, Mr. Jones has produced with xx$$ and a couple of months.

Think about what you could do with a couple mil, oh hell a couple bil.

SHOW ME THE MONEY

seesalrun on September 7, 2009 at 10:36 PM

I wish both sides of the aisle would stop bringing up race.

ckoeber on September 7, 2009 at 10:33 PM

Only the left is stuck on race. Everything they see is through the prism of race. They interpret anyone who doesn’t look at race as being racist. Of course, that sort of twisted thinking is why they are leftists.

progressoverpeace on September 7, 2009 at 10:36 PM

Still on this Jones story aren’t we neocons? You give them a bone to suck on and they just won’t leave it alone. Typical con.

Afrolib on September 7, 2009 at 10:30 PM

The story was given new life by Huffington Post you idiot.

fogw on September 7, 2009 at 10:36 PM

You are now being silly. You cannot accept the truth, plan and simple.

ckoeber on September 7, 2009 at 10:27 PM

Learn to read…

Here’s one that was filed in federal court and the procurer has put his life on the line swearing its authentic and if not he could be send to jail for perjury.


See high res affidavit and birth certificate here.

It is a certified Birth Certificate accepted by California’s 9th Circuit Court as a genuine certified copy.

doriangrey on September 7, 2009 at 10:36 PM

really????

damn

blatantblue on September 7, 2009 at 10:23 PM

Yep. I need to move out. Got no choice though. Finished school in mid crap economy. Bleh.

Darth Executor on September 7, 2009 at 10:36 PM

I`d have no problem with Jones coming back as the CommieCzar. At least he`d be qualified and his past statements wouldn`t be a problem.

ThePrez on September 7, 2009 at 10:37 PM

How dense are you? dorian was noting the fact that the Kenyan BC has been tendered to the court and sworn to, under penalty of perjury. I don’t know if it’s real (I highly doubted it, myself) but the guy with it is willing to risk jail to have it in evidence and to swear to it. If it’s a fake, he’s off to jail. That’s a big risk. But, now we’ll all know exactly what that particular Kenyan BC is really about and discovery on the rest of the papers may be opened.

progressoverpeace on September 7, 2009 at 10:31 PM

Do you truly think the man cares whether his claim is true or not? The whole goal is to put yet more attention into a story that has been debunked ten times over.

This “new” birth certificate isn’t any more authentic then the last set that was given.

A better way to put it is this. You had a Republican governor put her career on the line to defend Obama. That’s far more powerful than this case of political sacrifice.

ckoeber on September 7, 2009 at 10:37 PM

Racism should be a terrible label but it has been so devalued that very few people care any more. How many other labels have been made vacuous by applying them to the TEA :mobs”?

Laurence on September 7, 2009 at 10:37 PM

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