Audio: Multitalented Truther/communist/Obama czar also a record producer
posted at 12:58 pm on September 5, 2009 by Allahpundit
Via Verum Serum, a golden oldie from the vault of Freedom Fighter Music, for which Jones’s Ella Baker Center for Human Rights was a “sponsoring non-profit.” The man himself has a cameo around 3:45 calling for a Palestinian right of return, which, once this gets picked up in Israel, should drop The One’s approval rating there to … actually, it can’t get any lower than it is now, can it? Either way, it’s got a great beat and you can dance call for the end of Zionism to it.
Below that, via Breitbart, more leftist faux profundity about “soulful activism” that would warrant an extra-smirky segment on Rachel Maddow if it came from someone like Newt Gingrich but is treated with utmost seriousness as uttered by our hero. Even Bob Beckel and the Daily News are calling on Obama to pull the trap door on this tool already, but the more I see of him, the less inclined I am to agree. He’s a bottomless well of fringe-left idiocy, a year’s worth of easy bloggy content at least and a GOP campaign commercial in the making. Stay strong, Barry! Better yet, give him a cabinet position. We might just take back the Senate after all. Content warning.
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I wish I could phonetically spell out the noise that just came out of my mouth after seeing this.
anniekc on September 5, 2009 at 1:01 PM
What isn’t this guy???
FontanaConservative on September 5, 2009 at 1:02 PM
If Obama can wait out the protests, hang tough and not cave in, then he has a chance to push the rest of his agenda through congress.
If he lets public outcry weaken his administration, and if he loses his health care push, he’s a 3 year lame duck.
The first time Obama backs down, he’s lost it all. His entire political career is built on audacity. Once his bluff is called, its over.
Skandia Recluse on September 5, 2009 at 1:04 PM
Calypso Louie praises Obama.
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_022508/content/01125110.guest.html
Dr Evil on September 5, 2009 at 1:04 PM
The Black Eyed Peas and Ludacris also big Obama fans.
Dr Evil on September 5, 2009 at 1:04 PM
Well, it’s no Exile on Main Street, but then again few are.
Oh, and Fry Mumia Now!
JohnGalt23 on September 5, 2009 at 1:05 PM
Definitely the gift that keeps on giving.
I’m just going to keep saying this, though, every time something else comes out of this guy and/or other appointees: what does this say about The One and when can we talk about it?
Mommypundit on September 5, 2009 at 1:06 PM
So are American sellouts Bon Jovi and Bruce Springsteen.
Firebird on September 5, 2009 at 1:08 PM
The man started out hating America – either for legitimate reasons or illegimate – and found Marxism as the answer to his anger.
Combine identity politics, environmentalism (hey, those Marxists regimes are really environmentally-friendly nations, right?), and an odd assortment of pseudo-sociology and psychology with the Marxist claptrap.
Voila: a position in an Administration.
Hey, it worked.
I’m surprised Janeane Garofalo isn’t hanging around this guy.
SteveMG on September 5, 2009 at 1:08 PM
Hey, was just listening to that driving around this morning. Thirty-eight years old and still incomparable.
Oh, and I concur: Fry Mumia.
JammieWearingFool on September 5, 2009 at 1:09 PM
What isn’t this guy???
FontanaConservative on September 5, 2009 at 1:02 PM
A Patriotic Conservative American.
kingsjester on September 5, 2009 at 1:09 PM
This is not the Van Jones Obama thought he knew! Before the engine has even cooled down on the bus, Obama will be issuing a Rev. Wright type statement. It’s not enough that we have an extreme left ideologue as POTUS, but now we have to add fringe-kook to that description, which is probably redundant.
alwaysright43 on September 5, 2009 at 1:13 PM
So Van Jones can be measured in Revolutions Per Minute? Makes sense, as he is revolting.
Left Coast Right Mind on September 5, 2009 at 1:13 PM
Heh…yeah, I think VJ is in for the long haul (well, the 3 years left of Obama’s crumbling Presidency anyway) and so I agree with AllahP…this guy is a walking, talking, rapping GOP campaign commercial (or really, a whole series of commercials). Keep him Barry…and let’s make sure he get’s MAXIMUM exposure. It’s all good.
AUINSC on September 5, 2009 at 1:13 PM
Never discount the ability of the GOP to swing at a ball thrown in the dirt. We can still lose this game.
Limerick on September 5, 2009 at 1:13 PM
Obama thought “Hey if I can become president , this guy is a shoe in”.
the_nile on September 5, 2009 at 1:13 PM
The longer Jones stays in the WH, the easier it becomes to connect these views with Obama. Also, if he stays around, it will be fun to see the GOP run against Jones in 2010.
pearson on September 5, 2009 at 1:14 PM
Sweet. Maybe we can phase out the other easy blogging content, i.e. shots at conservatives.
The best easy content, though, would seem to me to be if Beck et al can continue to show this ideology throughout the administration and tying it to his advisers and Obama himself. That would make excellent content, as you have shown this week :)
Spirit of 1776 on September 5, 2009 at 1:14 PM
Actually not a bad idea. Republicans should repeat some outrageous quotes made by dems but dont say its a quote. Let the news stations have at it, then pull out who actually said it. “oh by the way i was just quoting Nancy pelosi”. Then get the audio or video of her saying it.
I can dream right?
Greed on September 5, 2009 at 1:15 PM
Re-post:
Stronger Than Bombs – (Real Media video file, 5 mins) – ‘Emergency Action Against Racism and War’ rally, (Sep 12, 2001)
Jones appears towards the end, from 4:38 onwards.
By the way, credit where it’s due, moonbats are excellent at meticulously documenting their own idiocy. Indybay is veritable treasure-trove of stupidity. I expected that video link to be broken after 8 years, but no.
mudskipper on September 5, 2009 at 1:15 PM
I agree. This guy is gold for us. It’s like Barry wearing a dead skunk around his neck. Let’s keep him in office!
whitetop on September 5, 2009 at 1:15 PM
I’m starting to think Obama picks administrators specifically based on how many times they say the word “change” publicly.
The Calibur on September 5, 2009 at 1:15 PM
These days he doesn’t got that benefit of a doubt.
the_nile on September 5, 2009 at 1:15 PM
The leftys defense of this guy is hilarious.
Blake on September 5, 2009 at 1:16 PM
makes me so proud to live in Jersey, being surrounded by tools like them.
Jerome Horwitz on September 5, 2009 at 1:16 PM
Without question. There wouldn’t be a speech to both houses of Congress, or Snowe trying on a blue dress (I’m referring to political parties colors here, not um, the other thing) if they didn’t anticipate a path of success to continue to execute their agenda.
Spirit of 1776 on September 5, 2009 at 1:16 PM
You have just recapped the entire “Nazi” episode that Rush did after Pelosi. Didn’t keep him from being vilified on both sides, however. Sure made for some exciting townhalls, though.
Spirit of 1776 on September 5, 2009 at 1:18 PM
Jeremiah Wright + Yale Education = Van Jones
Jeremiah Wright + Harvard Education = Barack Obama
4thQTR on September 5, 2009 at 1:19 PM
Careful what you wish for. Something tells me that when the Revolution kicks off, it won’t be the change they were looking for.
Guardian on September 5, 2009 at 1:19 PM
As Valarie Jarrett said : we have been watching this guy for a long time … They knew who he was – now so do we — whats next– and what will happen when the rest of America knows -30 Billion is a lot of walking around money .
wheels on September 5, 2009 at 1:19 PM
We may learn something important by how, if at all, Obama reacts to the localized uproar regarding Van Jones.
GaltBlvnAtty on September 5, 2009 at 1:20 PM
I’m beginning to get an Al Qaeda analogy here.
They have been at war with us and we were not at war with them…
This coming 9/11 is our second wake up call on the domestic front.
The capitalists vs the communists.
katy on September 5, 2009 at 1:20 PM
That first video is simply breathtaking. A work of art.
I don’t know that I have ever heard so many tired, pathetic, idiotic progressive cliches of mis/disinformation in one place before. It’s a tour de force of moronic lefty radical nonsense.
RDuke on September 5, 2009 at 1:21 PM
Just as Al Gore trots out the boogeyman argument so do all the rest of the enviro-Nazis. Do they truly believe their own rhetoric or is simply a tool to amass power and money?
larvcom on September 5, 2009 at 1:22 PM
The thing is, if the GOP or some political group from the opposition (or the support) doesn’t start actually pointing out the craziness of VJ and demand a resignation, this will set a horrible standard.
Upstater85 on September 5, 2009 at 1:23 PM
Makes my pants want to get up and dance.
whitetop on September 5, 2009 at 1:24 PM
“we need to have 360 degrees of change”?
So he’s as good ad geometry as he is at metallurgy, structural engineering or logic?
RDuke on September 5, 2009 at 1:26 PM
The left were always at it trying to impliment their socialist agenda.
Bush and the Republicans served one major pupose…
They kept the nutjob, fringe, lunatics out of the mainstream.
These are the most dangerous of days ahead!
katy on September 5, 2009 at 1:26 PM
“ad” should be “at”.
I speel gud.
RDuke on September 5, 2009 at 1:27 PM
makes sense
FontanaConservative on September 5, 2009 at 1:27 PM
If someones googles “Van Jones” and “noetic science” they might find something interesting.
mesquito on September 5, 2009 at 1:28 PM
Higher brain functioning isn’t a strong trait of the left, however, with that said it’s easy to see why so many follow lock step.
larvcom on September 5, 2009 at 1:28 PM
Please God …
Please let Obama stand by this guy. Don’t let him throw this guy under the bus.
This guy is the best poster boy for Obamanation since the joker poster.
HondaV65 on September 5, 2009 at 1:31 PM
So are
AmericanNew Jersey sellouts Bon Jovi and Bruce Springsteen.Firebird on September 5, 2009 at 1:08 PM
:-)
joejm65 on September 5, 2009 at 1:31 PM
It’s hard to argue with iVan Jones–he really is the a$$hole he professes to be.
Western_Civ on September 5, 2009 at 1:32 PM
Update…a couple of days ago rumors were flying all around cyberspace that Charlie Watts was retiring as the Stones’ drummer. He’s not.
Del Dolemonte on September 5, 2009 at 1:33 PM
Jones: “Diversity is strength” (except when we say so and want youze droids to follow lockstep for our Leni Reifenshtal moment in history/herstory/whatever)
Western_Civ on September 5, 2009 at 1:34 PM
Wow, how long has he been in the administration? All this stuff and it is just now coming out.
makes you wonder what you would find if you looked into the other czars.
kangjie on September 5, 2009 at 1:34 PM
Yes, he can teach us the definition of good and evil apparently.
Noetic Sciences: video, you have to register with them to view it though
mudskipper on September 5, 2009 at 1:37 PM
Beck lit the bon fire.
katy on September 5, 2009 at 1:38 PM
Maybe the Onion wasn’t so far off the mark…anyone seen the Pres today?
hoosiermama on September 5, 2009 at 1:38 PM
Amen!!
This dude ain’t going anywhere. That would mean that Glenn Beck and Fox News wins and I just don’t see it happening.
Knucklehead on September 5, 2009 at 1:39 PM
Yeppers. Plus, with all of this that’s coming out makes me wonder how much damage has he already done since he joined the Hoodwinking Bamboozler-in-Chief’s administration.
Frightening and sickening at the same time.
tru2tx on September 5, 2009 at 1:39 PM
Yikes. Friend of POTUS? This is beyond creepy. We are still a reasonable nation, no? The white folks in the video looked like they were Jack Kervorikan clients, comfortably numb.
clorensen on September 5, 2009 at 1:44 PM
From David Horowitz on Van Jones:
The Upside of Zero Coverage
(on Van Jones in the networks & papers)
INC on September 5, 2009 at 1:47 PM
I need more information about Mumia. I think I’m confusing his story with other cop murderers and need a refresher course. I remember reading about him awhile back, have seen protests, etc., but have not read HotAir’s recent post.
Is wiki reliable?
Mommypundit on September 5, 2009 at 1:49 PM
Ya gotta admit… With Barry and his minions, every day is better than the next.
phreshone on September 5, 2009 at 1:51 PM
Yeah…Holdren, for one. Of all the guys to get a pass, Holdren was NOT the one I wanted.
Mommypundit on September 5, 2009 at 1:51 PM
Record producer?? For Pete’s sake, they’re just giving the title away any more!!
Everybody’s a record producer. You go to Guitar Center a buy a drum machine and PRESTO! You’re a “padoosah!”
Everytime I see something like this, I remember the day my old high school invited me back to participate in a “Career Day.” During a discussion on audio engineering, some kid came up to me and, I kid you not, introduced himself as a producer.
I had to bite my tongue not to say, “Producer of what? Pimples?”
Sorry for the tangent. As you were.
CurtZHP on September 5, 2009 at 1:52 PM
This guy needs subtitles.
PoodleSkirt on September 5, 2009 at 1:53 PM
The best part of this whole saga – not just Van the Man but the Obama debacle in general – is that it’s causing Americans to rediscover themselves. For years they’ve been led by the media through a foggy maze of squishy, non-concrete mush disguised as “compassionate pragmatism” which has left them unable to recall what it is they used to stand for.
It’s all coming back to them now. Even the ones who still can’t remember what it is they like sure as hell know now what they don’t like…..THIS.
The Obama administration has been a Godsend for America. It’s been the equivalent of showing footage of horrific car crashes to drink drivers. Let’s keep the video running a little longer. Team Obama must be allowed to crash and burn in full view of everyone.
Sharke on September 5, 2009 at 1:55 PM
Oh my God!!
wait nevermind this sounds like a normal day on campus.
“Social justice!”
blatantblue on September 5, 2009 at 1:56 PM
Good analogy, but I hope none of us are in the car as it crashes!
INC on September 5, 2009 at 1:56 PM
Sad, huh?
Upstater85 on September 5, 2009 at 1:58 PM
Well you know when they say that failing businesses should be allowed to fail, to get them out of the market and enable their wasted capital to be reallocated? Sure it’s painful to some extent. But it’s worth it.
Sharke on September 5, 2009 at 1:58 PM
Well, I hope he fails!
I just don’t want him to be the Balrog that lashes his whip as he falls and takes any of us down with him!
INC on September 5, 2009 at 2:00 PM
If I weren’t an American, the Obama Administration would be the funniest joke I’ve ever seen.
BTW, for anyone who still bothers with LGF – the Van Jones brouhaha is the final nail in that place’s coffin. Chuckles Johnson has morphed in Captain Queeg in his frantic attempt to explain away Jones’ Truther past.
radar g on September 5, 2009 at 2:00 PM
1600′s a Joke
Jim Treacher on September 5, 2009 at 2:05 PM
Actually, Jim, I’d like Obama much more if he started wearing those Flavor Flav clocks around his neck.
radar g on September 5, 2009 at 2:07 PM
Damn, even I’m not that stupid.
Gang-of-One on September 5, 2009 at 2:07 PM
Valeri Jarret is Michelle’s best friend huh. And she and the WH have been following this commie freak?
I’m beginning to wonder if The New Yorker mag cover was a bit prophetic.
http://www.newyorker.com/online/covers/slideshow_blittcovers
katy on September 5, 2009 at 2:07 PM
It is hilarious watching Johnson defend a truther by citing the words of other truthers. Why does HA still link to LGF? Why not update the blog roll to link to Ace or Gateway Pundit?
pearson on September 5, 2009 at 2:08 PM
Ironic, isn’t it? These nutjobs have been wanting a revolution all their lives and now they’re going to get one — just not the one they’ve been dreaming about.
As to Mumia/Cook, he’s a former Black Panther, “activist” thug who shot a cop to death. He claims that the multiple eyewitnesses who saw a shooter matching his description at the crime scene, and the two witnesses who heard him confess to the shooting at the hospital, are all lying, mistaken, or crazy. He claims a mysterious “running man” did the killing. But he’s never explained how it came to be that it was his (Mumia/Cook’s) gun (found at the scene) that the “running man” used to shoot the cop to death, or why he (Mumia/Cook) was wearing an empty shoulder holster for his gun when he arrived at the hospital. Mumia/Cook claims he was framed for the murder, but he’s never quite been able to explain away the gun evidence.
AZCoyote on September 5, 2009 at 2:12 PM
They obviously don’t update that stuff very often. For example, MM’s site still has Daffy Debbie Schlussel on the blogroll, despite the fact that Schlussel keeps ripping her on her site.
radar g on September 5, 2009 at 2:13 PM
Amen again! I seriously doubt this sh!t talking d!ckface is going anywhere–regardless of what the Talking Heads pontificate.
Gang-of-One on September 5, 2009 at 2:18 PM
I’ve been doing a little digging and took a closer look at things. I’m Afraid I have to agree with Charles Johnson that baring further evidence he is not a truther.
He IS a loon with BDS and involved with all of those clowns the subsequent verifiable revelations are more than enough to justify booting him.
My explanation here.
Ironically the administration doesn’t dare use that defense since the evidence DOES link him with a bunk of Ultra far left loons that I suspect a lot of White House people would also have a link to. In defending him of trutherism it invites the vetting that the media refused to do and that vetting would bring down the lot.
petertheslow on September 5, 2009 at 2:18 PM
Now LGF is calling Beck a truther because he had some truthers at some even he spoke at or something. Get that logic
Van jones = not a truther even though he signed a document saying he was
Beck = a truther because somembody showed up at an event with a sign.
He also has a blog post that says he is unfairly attacked and then another article unfairly attacking Pawlenty(pawlenty is apparently to radical of a right winger for him)
I’ m sure we will be seeing tons of snarky witty threads by Allah/Ed slamming this dingleberry hypocrite charles Johnson.
kangjie on September 5, 2009 at 2:21 PM
The focus should be on Obama, not on Jones. Jones was hand-picked by the big-O, without any help from his party or Congress. It’s yet another clear indication that Obama’s relationship with William Ayers and other radicals was not an anomaly or a triviality, as the press managed to convince the electorate. Obama doesn’t just tolerate revolutionary leftists, he admires them and aspires to become one. (But one with better taste in clothes.)
Socratease on September 5, 2009 at 2:28 PM
petertheslow – he’s a truther-of-convenience, embracing the truther line was just part of Far-Left Orthodoxy five years ago.
Doesn’t get him off the hook, and the fact is when you look at his record Trutherism is the least objectionable belief he’s espoused.
JEM on September 5, 2009 at 2:29 PM
Socratease – it would be nice if Jones proved to be the Czar Too Far.
It would be nice if the public began to recognize that he’s just the first of a substantial list of Obama advisers whose vile views in fact represent the core of so much of what this administration is truly about.
Maybe that’s too much to hope.
JEM on September 5, 2009 at 2:35 PM
Jones should be toast by now…but he’s not. Holdren should have been drummed out on a rail after his “America is a nation of cowards”..but he wasn’t..second chance was when he dropped the slam dunk case against the Panthers and opens one on the CIA..he’s still there. Nobody seems to find these things outrageous. It’s amazing. Jones..in his own f’in words claims he’s a Communist..in his own words calls for a socialist revolution..he hates whites so much that he even dumps on the white environmentalists! and thats o.k. with them. Talk about the power of white guilt!..and the media just handwaves it away and at the most, furrows their brows over Jones saying “asshole”.
That this can actually be, is just absolutely amazing to me.
A case of mass Stockholm syndrome or simple stunned disbelief caused by the audacious assault on so many fronts at once?
Itchee Dryback on September 5, 2009 at 2:36 PM
Holy crap.
He’s Holy Man incarnate. God’s gift to home conning.
Or Bowfinger incarnate.
…hard to tell for sure.
That was like watching a Unarius Church of Scientology recruiting video.
One thing I do know for sure, Van Jones is a silver tongued snake-oil slinger. Although, ’360° of change’ makes about as much sense as Rod Blagojevich calling out corrupt politicians on his new radio show.
SilverStar830 on September 5, 2009 at 2:37 PM
Ive called and emailed CBS, ABC, NBC, CNN news outlets and demanded they stop ignoring the Van Jones story and start covering it COMPLETELY. CBS aired a short thing on Jones last night but of course they didnt air ANY damaging quotes. It was so pathetically obvious that how they did a biased report on it leaving out all real juicy facts.
I dont twitter but i opened an account solely to tweet to the evening news people like Couric and Cooper and give them a short earful on their biased bs.
I repeat, what the MSM is doing in ignoring all this is treasonous. They have an obligation to be a watch dog to the American public. Not informing them of radicals in the WH is treason. How can it not be? They are walking hand in hand with this administration. Its a scary time to be an American right now because of all the goings on and the corrupt media.
bucsox79 on September 5, 2009 at 2:37 PM
Slowpete, can you leave some links to the holes you were digging in? So you agree he signed the Truther document
without knowing full well what he was attaching his John
Hancock to? A Yale educated Lawyer? Really curious to see what you dug up. Help me out here. I want to be informed.
Gang-of-One on September 5, 2009 at 2:38 PM
I don’t believe that. When I signed my latest mortgage agreement, I was flipping through the pages and pages of clauses and fine print, and I asked the agent if anyone ever actually reads all of it. “Lawyers do. Always.” she answered.
Socratease on September 5, 2009 at 2:41 PM
I think what Pete is saying is that VJ is a truther out of convenience. Whitey spreads aids and BTW, they blow up towers so they can declare war on “us.”
Upstater85 on September 5, 2009 at 2:41 PM
Which flavored truther is he not.. the “made it happen” truthers or the “let it happen” truthers?
They are both truthers.
Itchee Dryback on September 5, 2009 at 2:41 PM
I agree not being a truther is a pretty low threshold for government service.
What has come out about him I think is actually standard fare among I suspect a lot of Obama people.
That’s why I’m going to enjoy watching this administration squirm over this. Any attempt to disprove Jones as a truther will simply bring up more provable stuff that would disqualify him and a lot of others in the Obama crowd.
petertheslow on September 5, 2009 at 2:45 PM
I think they may have found a replacement…
BKeyser on September 5, 2009 at 2:47 PM
Van Jones Trutherism, like Van Jones Communism and Van Jones Eco-Racism Theory, is a kind of decadence: If you really believed 9/11 was an inside job, you’d be in fear of your life. Instead, for a cutting-edge poseur like Jones, it’s a marketing niche, one that gives you a certain cachet with the right kind of people – like, apparently, Barack Obama. -Steyn
Forget Charles’s spin-a-matic; that’s the take-home. The petition gave cachet for people who followed his career with interest.
Spirit of 1776 on September 5, 2009 at 2:47 PM
I predict a foreign tour away from the cameras with mouth tightly shut, and vacations with the family in undisclosed locations…soft solitary confinement.
Saltysam on September 5, 2009 at 2:49 PM
This “CBS,MSNBC,NBC” that you speak of – who are they? Are they relevant? Do others know of them? /snark
Can’t you just see Hussein Osama calling Jones into his office, (a la Denzel Washington in American Gangster), sitting him down… “My man”. Then Denzel pummels his stupid skull into the conference table asking him with each tooth that pops out of his head: “Why you gotta be so stupid?”.
NumberTwo on September 5, 2009 at 2:51 PM
Van the Man is all about the change. As with Wright, Van the Man provides an unvarnished look behind the mask.
Apparently Van wants to avoid being mistaken for a sellout, and chooses his friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists….
moxie_neanderthal on September 5, 2009 at 2:51 PM
Ecological crises on a scale of World War II.
War socialism with a slightly different approach. Fascism sure is creepy, especially when it sings “it’s a small world after all” in a big hand held circle.
Saltysam on September 5, 2009 at 2:51 PM
Obama, you are the company you keep. If he is not gone by Monday, he must have some pretty heavy sh*t on Obama, no!
Frances on September 5, 2009 at 2:52 PM
crisescrisisSaltysam on September 5, 2009 at 2:52 PM
I think it’s more of a “Bush is using it for world neocon control nonsense” thing with him. His direct public statements are enough that would draw support from truthers and he has associated with them on other projects. A truther might rationally conclude he was one of them.
My first impression is he was, and one could come to that conclusion from his associations, it would be a rational assumption.
I just don’t think it’s provable without referring to sites such as Rense and 9/11 truth who have been known to exaggerate their support. Believe me I looked for other evidence, I was sure I would find it, I didn’t.
I think being a truther is nasty, and I’m not willing to call him something that vile unless I’m positive he is.
If further evidence comes up that I missed I’m certainly willing to change my mind again , but for now that’s where I have to stand. Van Jones, Vile troop opposing, Racist, BDS bastard, yes. Truther No.
petertheslow on September 5, 2009 at 2:54 PM
There’s various levels of ‘Truther’ though isn’t there:
a) Bush admin planned and executed the entire attack.
b) It was Islamic terrorists, but Bush admin allowed it to happen.
c) Missiles were involved/no plane hit the Pentagon.
etc.
A ‘Truther’ can subscribe to one or all three of the above.
mudskipper on September 5, 2009 at 2:54 PM
I agree, and if America survives this all out attack, they are done, along with anything past middle of the road liberalism and lefty democrats.
I just don’t see how the whinging victim mentality that is behind most all liberal and leftie causes, will have any validity once people comprehend the degree of destructive deception that was attempted by them.
Itchee Dryback on September 5, 2009 at 2:54 PM
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