American Legion spitting nails over photo of dying Marine

posted at 6:28 pm on September 4, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

The American Legion has issued a blistering statement about the Associated Press decision to publish a photo of a dying Marine over the objections of the Marine’s family. I received this directly from the Legion earlier this afternoon:

INDIANAPOLIS (September 4, 2009) – “Outrageously irresponsible,” is how the leader of the nation’s largest veterans organization characterized the Associated Press’s decision to release a photo of a dying U.S. Marine taken in Afghanistan.

“The lack of compassion and common decency shown by the Associated Press in releasing this photograph is stunning,” said American Legion National Commander Clarence E. Hill, a retired Navy captain. “Lance Corporal Joshua Bernard is a hero who gave his life for his country. His family is understandably offended. I have asked the American Legion state commander in Maine to reach out to his family. Indeed everybody in The American Legion stands with his family.”

The photo shows Bernard bleeding after being struck by a rocket-propelled grenade in a Taliban ambush Aug. 14. Before the photograph was publicly released, Secretary of Defense Robert Gates asked Thomas Curley, AP’s president and chief executive officer to refrain from transmitting the image. “Out of respect for his family’s wishes, I ask you in the strongest of terms to reconsider your decision. I do not make this request lightly…The issue here is not law, policy or constitutional right – but judgment and common decency.”

“Secretary Gates was right,” Hill added. “The issue is judgment and common decency. There is some information, some actions that occur, that are simply too private, too personal, and too tragic to be intentionally broadcast into the homes of millions. For families with loved ones overseas, the fear of what might happen to them is a near constant companion. This photo not only keeps open the wounds of war for the Bernard family, but it also increases the fear for the families of those who are still facing the reality of sudden death every day.”

Hill called for a review by the Department of Defense of the rules governing embedded media. “This should never have occurred in the first place, nor should it be allowed to occur again,” Hill said. “Ironically, when I visited Camp Delta at Guantanamo, the photographer was prohibited from taking images showing the faces of detained terrorists. Yet, photographers are allowed to shoot photographs of fallen American heroes? Where is the common sense? Where is the common decency?”

With a membership of 2.6-million wartime veterans, The American Legion was founded in 1919 on the four pillars of a strong national security, veterans affairs, Americanism, and patriotic youth programs.

I’m not sure I can put this any better, although I recommend reading Mudville Gazette’s take on the matter. Politico has a comprehensive report about the Pentagon’s outrage, and it should be noted that Politico did not run the picture with the story:

Defense Secretary Robert Gates is objecting “in the strongest terms” to an Associated Press decision to transmit a photograph showing a mortally wounded 21-year-old Marine in his final moments of life, calling the decision “appalling” and a breach of “common decency.”

The AP reported that the Marine’s father had asked – in an interview and in a follow-up phone call — that the image, taken by an embedded photographer, not be published. The AP reported in a story that it decided to make the image public anyway because it “conveys the grimness of war and the sacrifice of young men and women fighting it.” …

Gates wrote to Thomas Curley, AP’s president and chief executive officer. “Out of respect for his family’s wishes, I ask you in the strongest of terms to reconsider your decision. I do not make this request lightly. In one of my first public statements as Secretary of Defense, I stated that the media should not be treated as the enemy, and made it a point to thank journalists for revealing problems that need to be fixed – as was the case with Walter Reed.”

“I cannot imagine the pain and suffering Lance Corporal Bernard’s death has caused his family. Why your organization would purposefully defy the family’s wishes knowing full well that it will lead to yet more anguish is beyond me. Your lack of compassion and common sense in choosing to put this image of their maimed and stricken child on the front page of multiple American newspapers is appalling. The issue here is not law, policy or constitutional right – but judgment and common decency.”

I’m not sure which is more despicable — the decision to run the photo, or their self-serving claptrap afterwards about honoring the service of men and women in the war by exploiting their death. It demonstrates truly warped thinking and values. The AP should apologize immediately and withdraw the image, although that would probably not stop its dissemination now.

Update: I wrote soldier when I should have written Marine in the headline. My apologies. I can’t believe I only got one e-mail on that, though.

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In response to the W.W. 2 censorship comments,they did show a news reel of dead Marines floating in the surf at Betio (Tarawa).After the American public responded in outrage to the high casualties they decided it wasn’t a good idea.Even then they knew the American public would not hang tough in the face of wars terrible reality.

McBride on September 4, 2009 at 7:30 PM

For the rest of their lives, this family will see, in countless places on the Internet, in unexpected nooks an crannies, AP’s photo. If I were the Defence Department, I will rescind all embed permits for all AP photographers effective immediately.

That is the penance Gates should impose upon AP for their denial of the family’s request.

Unembedding AP’s photographers will fix the problem in the future for other families, even if there can be no fix for this family.

unclesmrgol on September 4, 2009 at 7:30 PM

I’d recommend Mr. Curley be gently-but-firmly tarred and feathered for his apalling arrogance.

GeneSmith on September 4, 2009 at 7:31 PM

The Akron beacon journal ran with this.I can not wait until the next time they call me to sell a subscription!

McBride on September 4, 2009 at 7:35 PM

Huffpo is running it on their front page.

Asses.

quax1 on September 4, 2009 at 6:50 PM

But quite understandable. It’s precisely the kind of use of their loved one’s picture that his family tried to prevent. They are like Cindy Sheehan, who could never fathom the patriotic feelings of her son Casey when he defied her and served our nation; she blamed our country for his death rather than the guys who started it all. Huffpo is cut from the same cloth.

unclesmrgol on September 4, 2009 at 7:35 PM

The reax to this photo dovetails very nicely with what I was talking about yesterday. Sorry, folks, the AP has the right to publish this photo in the way they see fit, and they don’t need to honor any grieving family’s request to not publish it.

Again, this war is a question of ownership, is it not?

BradSchwartze on September 4, 2009 at 7:11 PM

My contempt for you is boundless. However, unlike AP, you will probably never be between my muzzle and my objective, or in my cabin at several hundred feet above impact the earth.

Oh, and btw, despite a lot of campaign promises that amounted to $#&%, you and your messiah now own it.

Doorgunner on September 4, 2009 at 7:36 PM

These people are positively shameless. They will do ANYTHING to advance their own agenda. If I were Gates, I would send all of the embeds home posthaste. And when the wailing started on the left, I would say, “Take it up with the AP.”

I’m also pretty sick and tired of hearing how these things have to be shown so that we stupid Neanderthals in flyover country will finally grasp and understand the grimness of warfare and the sacrifices made by our soldiers. Hey AP — respecting and honoring the American soldier isn’t a problem on our side of the fence.

Asshats.

NoLeftTurn on September 4, 2009 at 7:39 PM

Why no photos of Kennedy’s death with all the tubes and everything?

malclave on September 4, 2009 at 6:45 PM

I wouldn’t do that even to that piece of shit, it’s just not right.

M-14 2go on September 4, 2009 at 7:42 PM

AP…all peons,just kissin’ up to the libs. You make me ill.

ohiobabe on September 4, 2009 at 7:42 PM

I found a contact for AP….it is info@ap.org

Terrye on September 4, 2009 at 7:42 PM

Oh yeah,Mr Morrissey,please don’t call Marines soldiers.They don’t like it one little bit.

McBride on September 4, 2009 at 7:42 PM

Doorgunner on September 4, 2009 at 7:36 PM

Unlike you, I learned my lesson about continuing support of the War on Terror, and am applying that lesson right now.

Oh, and I didn’t vote for God, Jr.

BradSchwartze on September 4, 2009 at 7:43 PM

Rndguy on September 4, 2009 at 6:37 PM

Well said. +1

barnone on September 4, 2009 at 7:44 PM

It looks like this has been blown way out of proportion.

The Dean on September 4, 2009 at 6:41 PM

Don’t be shy. Be specific. In what way, exactly, has this been blown way out of proportion?

If my loved one died and the death was sensational enough for a news photographer to snap a picture, you’re damn right that I wouldn’t want that picture published, becuase I’d be doomed to see it for the rest of my life in the most out of the way places. That’s what the AP has condemned Lance Corporal Bernard’s family to endure, and I don’t believe for a second that the good AP claims motivated it to publish the photo outweighs the evil it will do in the future. I’m betting that a million jihadi websites will make Bernard their poster child.

Gates needs to completely rethink what images embedded photographers are permitted to take.

unclesmrgol on September 4, 2009 at 7:44 PM

Where are the Veterans of Foreign Wars (VFW) on this matter?

yoda on September 4, 2009 at 7:46 PM

McBride:

FDR did not want them showing faces. They could show people at a distance, but he did not want it personal.

Terrye on September 4, 2009 at 7:46 PM

Unlike you, I learned my lesson about continuing support of the War on Terror, and am applying that lesson right now.

BradSchwartze on September 4, 2009 at 7:43 PM

I thought it isn’t called the War on Terror any more, but something less stirring. What do you call it, now that you’ve changed your mind?

unclesmrgol on September 4, 2009 at 7:47 PM

The release of this photo is disgusting beyond words. And a pox on HuffPo for putting it up on the site, too.

Liam on September 4, 2009 at 7:48 PM

Thanks for the contact address!They got a little taste of ohio sweetness!

ohiobabe on September 4, 2009 at 7:48 PM

Unlike you, I learned my lesson about continuing support of the War on Terror, and am applying that lesson right now.

Oh, and I didn’t vote for God, Jr.

BradSchwartze on September 4, 2009 at 7:43 PM

Then where was the coverage of Cindy Sheehan in Martha’s Vinyard?

barnone on September 4, 2009 at 7:48 PM

Why would HuffPo want this on their front page, have they officially baled on Afghanistan so soon? I keep remembering how it was the good war…you know the important war that Iraq distracted us from. Iraq being the bad war of course.

Terrye on September 4, 2009 at 7:48 PM

POS Huffpo has it on their banner headline

ArmyAunt on September 4, 2009 at 7:49 PM

I thought it isn’t called the War on Terror any more, but something less stirring. What do you call it, now that you’ve changed your mind?

unclesmrgol on September 4, 2009 at 7:47 PM

Obama’s crusade. And if he wants my support, or if he wants the GOP to take the lead in supporting him on it, a heavy price needs to be exacted for that support.

BradSchwartze on September 4, 2009 at 7:49 PM

Thank you for the clarification Terrye.

McBride on September 4, 2009 at 7:52 PM

BradSchwartze on September 4, 2009 at 7:43 PM

Supporting GWOT doesn’t have anything to do with it. I train, and I execute commander’s intent. Yes, I have opinions re that intent, but they are inconsequential… unless we’re discussing collateral damage. We are obligated to hold ourselves to high standards -and are held to those standards by others, prominently the by the press- and the needless infliction of suffering is not tolerable, not for combatants and not for non-combatants.

Yes, they “have a right”, they also have an individual’s duty not to inflict needless suffering. Tell me, how far would you go to stop that sort of behavior on the part of AP if LCPL Joshua Bernard was your little brother?

Doorgunner on September 4, 2009 at 7:54 PM

My support for the war on Terror is not about politics, I am not going to support just when my party is in control…that is the sort of thing Democrats do..and besides the freaking terrorists do not give a damn what party you belong to, if you are an American they want to kill you.

Terrye on September 4, 2009 at 7:55 PM

AP: Van Jones best friend.

mimi1220 on September 4, 2009 at 7:55 PM

Actually, I agree with showing the picture. Here is why…

Further, it shows the type of hypocracy that the press is engaged in.

Snake307 on September 4, 2009 at 6:42 PM

Well, Snake, I see your points, but I have to disagree. For one, any press-watching citizen in this land that hasn’t concluded by now that the press operates in a cess pool of lying double standards is a blind fool, so this shameful photo won’t make such a dim light bulb any brighter.

More importantly, being what my son calls the ol’war dog type I distinguish between a war of words and a war of bloodletting. In a war of bloodletting I’m a believer in killing the enemy by any means necessary. Now even though we want to figuratively kill these commie rat bastards and their rata$$ commie ways, presently the war is still only a war of words and ideas.

Rather than being glad that this f!#k up by AP can be used as ammo, well, bro, I think of this young soldier’s family and the heart-ache they will feel for the rest of their lives, and I can’t muster any gladness at all that we have one more bullet to plant in the enemies chest.

Sorry…

Gang-of-One on September 4, 2009 at 7:57 PM

McBride:

I wish I could remember where I read about that so that I could post a link. It was an article about war time press. Very interesting.

Terrye on September 4, 2009 at 7:57 PM

“The American Legion has issued a blistering statement about the Associated Press decision to publish a photo of a dying Marine over the objections of the Marine’s family.”

Absolutely, I’m with the family, all the way on this.

However; during the previous administration a political decision was taken at the highest Presidential levels not allow press photos of thousands of caskets of our returning heroes at Dover, Air Force Base in Delaware.

Reason being that… If too many photos of dead heroes were published, the populous “might sour” on the totally despicable WAR OF [Bush’s] CHOICE, in Iraq!

I say, screw wars of choice; like I had the “pleasure of serving in” over a period of four years in Vietnam!

Screw them, screw them all…to a God damn fare thee well!

Screw the political bastards and their minions who perpetrate and instigate theses horrific atrocities on our brave military and our civilian and foreign populations!

Screw ‘em all… to hell and back!
Screw ‘em!

Geezer on September 4, 2009 at 7:58 PM

Geezer:

The Bush administration made that decision because the media was using the pictures of the coffins for political purposes, it was obvious.

Terrye on September 4, 2009 at 8:00 PM

Yes, they “have a right”, they also have an individual’s duty not to inflict needless suffering. Tell me, how far would you go to stop that sort of behavior on the part of AP if LCPL Joshua Bernard was your little brother?

Doorgunner on September 4, 2009 at 7:54 PM

It would be quite painful to see my suffering and dying little brother grace the front pages of the newspaper. But I also realize that there’s a flip side to this outrage. Think the Bernard family isn’t getting sympathy cards, letters, and gifts by the truckload right now? Think that doesn’t tend to overcome the outrage for most folks?

BradSchwartze on September 4, 2009 at 8:00 PM

McBride on September 4, 2009 at 7:30 PM

You are mistaken. By the time of the Tarawa battle, the American public knew the grim realities of the war, with more and more gold stars hanging in windows across the land (my own family among them).

The bodies were shown at a distance, as a previous blogger noted, to accentuate what was happening and what we were fighting for – not a close up shot of a dying marine. That is absolutely hateful and disgusting. The Associated Press has sunk to a low that I never thought possible even in this day and age.

J.J. Sefton on September 4, 2009 at 8:03 PM

Good time for the AP to learn what the term ‘Fragging’ means Marines!
Friendly fire?……sorry “shit happens”

try again later on September 4, 2009 at 8:04 PM

Think the Bernard family isn’t getting sympathy cards, letters, and gifts by the truckload right now? Think that doesn’t tend to overcome the outrage for most folks?

My God, man. Did you really just say that?

Doorgunner on September 4, 2009 at 8:05 PM

My God, man. Did you really just say that?

Doorgunner on September 4, 2009 at 8:05 PM

Yes, I did. And put it on the Internet, under my moniker. You really should stop it with the kneejerking. I’m concerned you might hit your head doing so.

BradSchwartze on September 4, 2009 at 8:10 PM

Terrye on September 4, 2009 at 8:00 PM

Terrye, you dear, wonderful, altruistic person!
I luv yeh!

“…because the media was using the pictures of the coffins for political purposes, it was obvious.”

What pictures, I never saw a God damn, one picture from Iraq.

The “media” published pictures of coffins from my war in Vietnam; because Cheney, Rummy and possibably Bush, decided it wasn’t in their best interests…with respect to their goddamn war…!

Get real, Terrye…!
Smell the coffee, kiddo!

Geezer on September 4, 2009 at 8:17 PM

Bet AP won’t touch this.

http://freemenow.wordpress.com/2009/09/03/this-should-be-front-page-news/

singer on September 4, 2009 at 8:18 PM

Doorgunner on September 4, 2009 at 7:54 PM

Thank you for your service. My family and I appreciate the freedom you protect, and we pray for you, and for the success of your missions.

massrighty on September 4, 2009 at 8:19 PM

“We are obligated to hold ourselves to high standards -and are held to those standards by others, prominently the by the press- and the needless infliction of suffering is not tolerable, not for combatants and not for non-combatants.”

Doorgunner, I am in no way obligated to hold myself to the sort of high standard you describe.

BradSchwartze on September 4, 2009 at 8:24 PM

J.J. you may be correct but the film of the casualties at Betio were close up and afterwards the official policy was changed due to the public reaction.Now I am basing this only on what I’ve read in history books,so I certainly could be wrong.I’m sorry for your families loss.My own family also lost someone in the war.

McBride on September 4, 2009 at 8:26 PM

Doorgunner, I am in no way obligated to hold myself to the sort of high standard you describe.

BradSchwartze on September 4, 2009 at 8:24 PM
Yes you have proven that.

fourdeucer on September 4, 2009 at 8:26 PM

I think the photographer, Julie Jacobson, is the guiltiest party in this matter.

She held the camera. She took the shot. She turned it over to the bureau.

In this digital age, Jacobson could have easily deleted that shot.

I guess her lack of conscience disabled her from doing so.

misslizzi on September 4, 2009 at 8:35 PM

Rest well LCpl. Our nation does not deserve men of your caliber, and we are forever in your debt.

If the AP wants to be self-serving, fine. Screw ‘em. My gripe is with the people that permitted this to happen as a matter of national policy.

blankminde on September 4, 2009 at 8:35 PM

blankminde on September 4, 2009 at 8:35 PM

War is HELL, soldier!
Get used to it!

Geezer on September 4, 2009 at 8:40 PM

blankminde on September 4, 2009 at 8:35 PM
“My gripe is with the people that permitted this to happen as a matter of national policy.”

Your gripe, my gripe…MY ARSE…!

Till yah been there hero, stop yer itchin’ and bitchin’ yer startin’ to sound like Newt…!

Geezer on September 4, 2009 at 8:45 PM

With a little luck this will put the AP out of business (RIP)

duff65 on September 4, 2009 at 8:45 PM

singer on September 4, 2009 at 8:18 PM

Your link doesn’t work.

stacy on September 4, 2009 at 8:46 PM

At least the Betio Marines weren’t identifiable; the AP serves its own interests, obviously. Too bad there wasn’t a direct way to boycott them.

Bishop on September 4, 2009 at 8:46 PM

AP and the “journalist” who took the picture are scum. As stated, the picture should never have been taken in the first place.

katieanne on September 4, 2009 at 8:50 PM

Geezer on September 4, 2009 at 8:40 PM
O/T Geezer when you rotated out did you have to submit all your photos for clearance? Mine were coming out of Danang and then before leaving Okinawa.

fourdeucer on September 4, 2009 at 8:55 PM

Geezer on September 4, 2009 at 8:40 PM

The appropriate title is “Marine.” We do not call ourselves soldiers. I’ve spent over 2 years in Iraq alone…all in Falljuah and Ramadi and all when it was not terribly fun place to be. I suppose I’m used to it. I am not used to, nor should I ever become used to, this misappropriation of a man’s sacrifice. We honor the dead as we value the living…if that can be said in America anymore.

blankminde on September 4, 2009 at 8:56 PM

Hot Air posted the video of the death of the Iranian girl, Neda. Presumably without having the ability to ask her family if it was all right. So there must be times, places and reasons to post pictures of the dying. I’m highly skeptical of the AP’s motives in publishing a picture of a dying Marine and I doubt I’d agree with their motives; my question is — so what should be the rules around this?

Lonalee on September 4, 2009 at 8:56 PM

t would be quite painful to see my suffering and dying little brother grace the front pages of the newspaper. But I also realize that there’s a flip side to this outrage. Think the Bernard family isn’t getting sympathy cards, letters, and gifts by the truckload right now? Think that doesn’t tend to overcome the outrage for most folks?

BradSchwartze on September 4, 2009 at 8:00 PM

Like the kind folk at Huffpo, eh?

unclesmrgol on September 4, 2009 at 8:57 PM

I apologize in advance for being a little short. The internet is a haven for miscommunication. I’ve got quite a few LCpls to take care of and it makes me mad as hell to see this nonsense. They deserve much more.

blankminde on September 4, 2009 at 8:58 PM

I am sick and tired of EVERYONE who labels themselves a journalist. They at one time had a real job in America. Now the job is a joke filled with stinking elitist who care not for being the watch dogs of America, as in the past, but each being their own Reich Minister of Propaganda. They range somewhere between pedophiles and rapists.

Jeff from WI on September 4, 2009 at 9:00 PM

The Akron beacon journal ran with this.I can not wait until the next time they call me to sell a subscription!
McBride on September 4

Why wait?

Call them up,
waste their time,
and ask about the status of your subscription,
when they inform you that you do not have a subscription thank them, let them know you will not be canceling your subscription because you don’t have one.

Don’t forget to tell them have a nice day!

DSchoen on September 4, 2009 at 9:30 PM

t would be quite painful to see my suffering and dying little brother grace the front pages of the newspaper. But I also realize that there’s a flip side to this outrage. Think the Bernard family isn’t getting sympathy cards, letters, and gifts by the truckload right now? Think that doesn’t tend to overcome the outrage for most folks?
BradSchwartze on September 4,

ERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
What?

“Think the Bernard family isn’t getting sympathy cards, letters, and gifts by the truckload right now?
Think that doesn’t tend to overcome the outrage for most folks?”

Uh, NO, that would not overcome the outrage for most folks or the family.

I do not think a truckload of sympathy cards is justification for the exploitation of your son dying for his country.

DSchoen on September 4, 2009 at 9:51 PM

so what should be the rules around this?
Lonalee on September 4

You don’t use the picture of a US service member dying for their country without the permission of that US service member family, and the US military.

How difficult is that?

DSchoen on September 4, 2009 at 9:57 PM

I don’t remember seeing a fallen US service man during WW II in newspapers or newsreels and I read back then that it was against policy. The reason given also was that it would demoralize the home front. Things were so much different then as now that you couldn’t possibly understand unless you lived through it.

Herb on September 4, 2009 at 10:07 PM

Here’s a picture of a healthy Julie Jacobson.

Let’s start a collection!!

GTR640 on September 4, 2009 at 10:28 PM

The thing is there are plenty of times that journalists in this country capture pics and videos like this and they would not run with a picture of a dead or dying child killed by a drunk driver just to show us the perils of drunk driving.

If some woman were dying in front of their eyes after having been beaten by her husband they would not run with that picture to show us the perils of domestic abuse…especially if the family asked them not to.

But men in uniform? Anything goes.

Terrye on September 4, 2009 at 10:49 PM

As long as the dying or dead person is not visually identifiable from the photo, it is a “war picture” and is legitimate news.

Exceptions always exist, especially when the outrage of the image can help spur an end to a brutal and deadly regime, as with the internet-circulated amateur video of the murdered girl Neda, and the cause of it to be protested: the tyrannical Iranian maniacs in power.

Unless AP is agitating for the overthrow of Obama, this photo seems cruel and pointless and gratuitous.

profitsbeard on September 4, 2009 at 10:57 PM

Rather than being glad that this f!#k up by AP can be used as ammo, well, bro, I think of this young soldier’s family and the heart-ache they will feel for the rest of their lives, and I can’t muster any gladness at all that we have one more bullet to plant in the enemies chest.
Sorry…
Gang-of-One on September 4, 2009 at 7:57 PM

Nothing to be sorry about. My thing is this. For more than a year, I’ve been advising people not to enlist, and not to re-enlist in the military. My reasons are many, but I’ll include this one. A friend I work with told me as a squad leader in Iraq he had to keep an enemy weapon or two handy to plant on any unfortunate civillians who got caught in the line of fire. Otherwise his troops could and would be charged with murder.

Now I am a former Paratrooper, and Desert Storm Vet. Any vet knows that the enemy chooses the location of the fight. We sincerely regret the loss of innocent life. I hate it. About any troop I ever knew would hate it. However, putting our troops in the position of having to lie to protect each other, or risk answering politically motivated charges of murder for an accident in a life or death situation is beyond my ability to endure. I won’t suggest that anyone join that Army. That was not the Army I thought I was in.

Add to that the painfully apparent conclusion that we will lose eventually with the Liberals calling the shots. It is inevitable.

I do nor believe we are fighting to win. We haven’t been for a couple years. We are fighting not to lose, which is not the same thing. Now I want you to understand how difficult it was to reach this conclusion. How painful it was to realize that we are doomed.

For the picture, I can say this. The people around the world are growing disgusted with politicians and the media. I think this picture helps that along. It might even fire up Obama’s base to demand that we get out.

I hate that any young men and women die in war. I hate that they’re dying in a futile face saving operation. I hate that our nation is so impatient that we demand instant victory. Victory was possible, but required a huge shift in the way that things are done to a more modern political system by both the Iraqi and Afghani people. The opponents of this are many, powerful and determined to keep it in the 7th century.

I know this was linger than I wanted, or expected. I’m sorry if it offended you gentle reader. This battle over the picture is sad, but it’s a microcosm of the bigger battle going on.

No. I’m no Liberal. I’m actually to the right of Limbaugh on most subjects.

Snake307 on September 4, 2009 at 11:05 PM

The AP stopped being a news organization a long time ago.

What a bunch of journalistic whores!

My sympathies to the family.

SmallGovtGuy on September 4, 2009 at 11:05 PM

Baxter Greene on September 4, 2009 at 6:58 PM

Every time I read that, I keep wondering how full of itself the reporting profession really is. Surely those folks get drilled enough in the importance of “Freedom of the Press” that they’d realize they would be truly at the mercy of The Man if they were to weaken the US with their publishing of photos like the one of the Marine.

BradSchwartze on September 4, 2009 at 7:22 PM

I just can’t fathom any job being more important than a Soldiers life.
Period.

You are seriously mentally ill to sit there and watch the enemy shoot and kill fellow Americans in war time just for the sake of a newspaper story.

Sick.

Baxter Greene on September 4, 2009 at 11:11 PM

It would be quite painful to see my suffering and dying little brother grace the front pages of the newspaper. But I also realize that there’s a flip side to this outrage. Think the Bernard family isn’t getting sympathy cards, letters, and gifts by the truckload right now? Think that doesn’t tend to overcome the outrage for most folks?

BradSchwartze on September 4, 2009 at 8:00 PM

What an ignorant, cardboard-hearted bastard.

Fool!! Do you think any amount of sympathy cards can even begin to lessen the agony this family is going through??

This young hero’s blood was spilled on foreign soil to protect your sorry ass. He never asked who he was dying for, but I sure as hell regret that it was you.

Elessar on September 4, 2009 at 11:19 PM

My support for the war on Terror is not about politics, I am not going to support just when my party is in control…that is the sort of thing Democrats do..and besides the freaking terrorists do not give a damn what party you belong to, if you are an American they want to kill you.

Terrye on September 4, 2009 at 7:55 PM

Well said and I agree 100%.

My family and I support our military 100% and their mission no matter who is in the White House.

We hold them responsible to give our Soldiers all the support,direction,realistic ROE’s,and enact policies that best provide victory and them coming home safely.

Party affiliation will not protect politicians from politicizing our troops or their mission.

Baxter Greene on September 4, 2009 at 11:19 PM

However, putting our troops in the position of having to lie to protect each other, or risk answering politically motivated charges of murder for an accident in a life or death situation is beyond my ability to endure.

Snake307 on September 4, 2009 at 11:05 PM

Thank you for you insight,sacrifice,service to our country, and our Freedoms.

Baxter Greene on September 4, 2009 at 11:24 PM

Here’s a picture of a healthy Julie Jacobson.

GTR640 on September 4, 2009 at 10:28 PM


Human Shield.

Baxter Greene on September 4, 2009 at 11:26 PM

I’m generally not a tit-for-tat kind of a guy, but there will come a time when an AP dickhead gets dusted and they (AP) will whine, cry and carry on like the little girls they are. I hope whoever’s final, painful moments are spread over every paper in the country.

Remember all of those headless Daniel Pearl pictures? What? There weren’t any? C’mon AP, you missed one.

Mr. Grump on September 4, 2009 at 11:32 PM

AP has long ago left common decency behind. I am sure the death of a soldier falls under violence porn and profit. You cannot treat the left with compromise and reason, you have to show them strength and accountability.

Fine, someday when one of their photographers is dead or dying, some young soldier will snap the photo and we will all see it on the Internet.

Or if one is kidnapped, I hope the military says too bad and blabs it all over the place.

It would be only fitting.

archer52 on September 4, 2009 at 11:40 PM

Why no AP posts/pictures/re-enactments of M.J. Kopechne’s lingering death at Chappaquidick…..Just to show us how horrible it must have been…..

Ahhhhhhh, because Saint Edward was involved.

alwyr on September 5, 2009 at 12:07 AM

Or if one is kidnapped, I hope the military says too bad and blabs it all over the place.

It would be only fitting.

archer52 on September 4, 2009 at 11:40 PM

We should not waste one second looking for kidnapped journalist.
No matter the facts,their liberal ideology sends them into some deep psychosis.

Here we have a journalist that was kidnapped by the Taliban and raped repeatedly.
Who did she blame……not the jihadist that raped her:

Wilders Causes Another Row. Pre-Captivity Stockholm Syndrome
By Thomas Landen
Created 2009-06-01 12:29
http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/3946

After her release, Joanie de Rijke, too, criticized the Dutch and Belgian authorities for their refusal to pay ransom. “The Belgians have done nothing. They said it was a matter for the Dutch. And the Dutch authorities said they never pay ransom. In Afghanistan they know well enough that Western governments pay up after an abduction. Germany, Italy and France have all paid ransoms.”


Dutch opposition leader Geert Wilders referred to Joanie de Rijke’s case.


“She was raped, but she was not angry. The journalist who went looking for the Taliban in Afghanistan saw her curiosity end in a cruel ordeal of multiple rape. While this would make others angry or sad, this journalist shows understanding. She says: ‘They also respected me.’ And she was given tea and biscuits.”



I don’t think anyone needs to expound on how brutal a crime rape is.
The fact this woman finds understanding and no blame for the sadistic jihadist that committed these acts shows how pathetic liberal judgment is.

During her captivity, de Rijke was raped repeatedly by Gul. In her book In de handen van de Taliban, which she published last month, she writes that the Taliban commander
“could not control his testosterone. I had the impression that afterwards he regretted what had happened. He knew it was wrong.”

The noble savage even “invited her to a threesome,” i.e. to have sex with him and one of his three wives. “Ghazi was a very religious man. It is all so hypocritical. He was a complete fool,” she writes.

Though de Rijke was angry with the Dutch and Belgian authorities, she told the Dutch media in interviews given after her release that she was not angry with her abductors. “I do not want to depict the Taliban as monsters. I am not angry with Ghazi Gul. After all, he let me live,” she said. About the rape ordeal she declared that though the experience had been horrible, she was also shown respect. “It’s not black and white. These things can exist side by side. That doesn’t mean that I’m suffering from Stockholm syndrome.

She is certainly not the only journalist to come home from captivity blaming everybody but the jihadist.

Not one Soldiers life should be put in danger for journalist who excuse the terrorist only to come home and blame our Soldiers and leadership.


How progressive!!!!

Baxter Greene on September 5, 2009 at 12:23 AM

It would be quite painful to see my suffering and dying little brother grace the front pages of the newspaper. But I also realize that there’s a flip side to this outrage. Think the Bernard family isn’t getting sympathy cards, letters, and gifts by the truckload right now? Think that doesn’t tend to overcome the outrage for most folks?

BradSchwartze on September 4, 2009 at 8:00 PM

You frigging assuming son of a b!tch! You have no standing in this families grief. No opinion matters here but theirs you self serving muck sucker. If you want to bear your breast and beat your meat, go whack of to the Jacko funeral. If you didn’t share in his life and troubles YOU DON’T RATE so STFU, and anything else is simple and disgusting voyeurism.

Fighton03 on September 5, 2009 at 12:31 AM

I know that the military people think they are obligated to take photographers and reporters with them into combat areas. However, when something like this happens you have to ask why. Why on earth do they allow an agency like AP, who continually lies and publishes photos like this and those they photoshop, why let the be embeds any longer. The AP is a dishonest and dishonorable leftist hack organization.

Sporty1946 on September 5, 2009 at 12:58 AM

“Think the Bernard family isn’t getting sympathy cards, letters, and gifts by the truckload right now? Think that doesn’t tend to overcome the outrage for most folks?”

No, it doesn’t. What I hope it results in is the immediate revocation of all AP credentials for working anywhere near any military troops. Protection for AP journalists-hell NO. Rescue of any missing journalists-hell NO. Those of you who think it is so wonderful to show the human toll of war-may you live long enough to experience in painful, excruciating detail the horror you have inflicted on this suffering family. This Marine deserved better from his fellow citizens. Journalism and the AP are dead.

indypat on September 5, 2009 at 1:06 AM

The A** Pirates will probably win a Pulitzer for the photo.

agmartin on September 5, 2009 at 1:21 AM

I do hope the family hits back hard, and will pledge my assistance, to any effort by the family to own AP.

Limerick on September 5, 2009 at 1:38 AM

i am a photographer and a vet. i never saw combat, though. as a photographer, i understand the need to accurately tell the story. as a vet and more importantly, a human, some things are out of bounds. taking a picture of ANY dying person’s last moments without permission is a gross invasion of privacy.

who is this photographer? his name should be made public and the subject of public humiliation and shame. i haven’t seen this photograph, nor do i want to. i am ASSuming that he was somewhat close to the dying hero. to think that one of this dying marine’s last things he saw was a camera capturing his death.

what was running through this photographers mind when pressing the shutter? “death…pulitzer…death… pulitzer…”

shame on him/her and shame on the ap.

once again, i think we should find out the name of the photographer, out them, and humiliate him/her.

“exit question?” where were the marines with their rifle butts after the photographer had clicked away? why didn’t they bust-in a head or camera and memory card?

photoboy74 on September 5, 2009 at 2:08 AM

As the proud father of a newly graduated USMC recruit, I want to vomit. Just today, I just watched one of the most moving experiences of my life, seeing my son and 551 other fine young men become Marines at the MCRD in San Diego and I am convinced that these are among the finest, most courageous our nation produces.

To quote the last lines of that Korean war movie, The Bridges at Toko-Ri, “Where do we get such men?”

They are far better than the slime on the left or the Pantload-in-chief and his un-American crowd deserves. I cannot hold back the tears of grief for Lance Corporal Bernard and his parents for he and they are members of my family and the pain is as though I had lost my son.

God bless this courageous young man, his family, the United States Marine Corps, and America..

..and God DAMN the AP!

VoyskaPVO on September 5, 2009 at 2:16 AM

Photoboy and Voyska: thank you for restoring my faith in humanity.
AP photographer Julie Jacobsen.
Go here to read about it, but it will make you want to puke
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090904/ap_on_re_us/afghan_death_ap_photo

Thank you for your service photoboy. Congratulations on your fine young Marine Voyska. My eldest is doing the same thing right now at Parris. These young men and women are the finest our country has to offer, and deserve our best efforts. The AP resides in the same place the current WH resident occupies. We need to fix that and quickly. FREEDOM!

indypat on September 5, 2009 at 2:34 AM

That photographer should be fired. What a terrible thing to do.

Why must liberals be so sick in the head? There is something seriously wrong with a very large segment of them.

scotash on September 5, 2009 at 2:37 AM

Congratulations on your fine young Marine Voyska. My eldest is doing the same thing right now at Parris. These young men and women are the finest our country has to offer, and deserve our best efforts. The AP resides in the same place the current WH resident occupies. We need to fix that and quickly. FREEDOM!

indypat on September 5, 2009 at 2:34 AM

“Pat”,

When yours graduates, you will see what I mean. I will be moved to tears every time I recall what I saw today thinking of the honor and tradition that is the Marine Corps and how it molds these young men into men like Lance Corporal Bernard who ask so little and give so much.

May God bless yours and all Marines — and all men and women of all armed forces who have served and will serve this country.

VoyskaPVO on September 5, 2009 at 3:02 AM

From now on the word journalist will be Goebbelsist.

Jeff from WI on September 5, 2009 at 8:26 AM

So I don’t miss anyone in here with family members in the military.God bless them and your family!

Jeff from WI on September 5, 2009 at 8:27 AM

I don’t understand the outrage here. That picture shows what real war is. Not the videos from 5000 ft up showing rockets destroying buildings and Apache helicopters streaming thousands of rounds into groups of terrorists(wich many conservatives LOVE to watch and call ‘war porn’) or pictures of plumes of smoke in the distance. This is real war, bloody and heartwrenching. It seems like we as a country will only support military action if we never have to see the real life consequences. If you can’t deal with seeing the terrible cost of sending soldiers to battle then maybe you should’nt cheerlead it so much.

God belss this marine and his family.His and his fellow soldiers sacrifices hopefully help stabalize that region and make our country safer from radical islamic terrorists

Tim-in-NJ on September 5, 2009 at 9:17 AM

God Bless the US Marine Corps.

As someone who has been overseas and provided aid to wounded servicemembers, I am frankly offended that a news organization would post a photo of this young Marine, against the wishes of his family and the DoD.

It is painful enough to mourn the loss of a family member and friend on one front, then to bear public witness to their final, horrifying moments on another. The dignity of that Marine and the wishes of his family were not taken into account and unfathomable poor judgment and discernment were used by the Associated Press. Justifying the publishing of the photo by using the opinions of the Marines who were there is a weak argument, for they see that experience through a lens that no one else can use. Men in combat numb themselves intentionally to the harsh experiences and proximity of their own mortality, only to deal with those feelings later, as a means to cope and continue functioning.

There has got to be a mechanism for retribution. Parents who bear the cost of their most valued treasure–their children–should not be forced to endure these news outlets who demonstrate extraordinarily poor discretion in the production of “news.”

America is not going to tolerate this.

ted c on September 5, 2009 at 9:35 AM

The AP reported in a story that it decided to make the image public anyway because it “conveys the grimness of war and the sacrifice of young men and women fighting it.” …

This is the typical left at work. You see, they are so much more intelligent than the rest of us. They understand things we can’t understand. They need to explain it to us.

Who doesn’t understand “the grimness of war…”?

Don’t ya just get tired of all the lecturing.

garry on September 5, 2009 at 10:08 AM

It seems like we as a country will only support military action if we never have to see the real life consequences

Tom in NJ-you’re clueless!
It seems like LIBS in this country only support military action if they never have to see the real life consequences. Many of us with military service or family members serving LIVE the freakin’ consequences everyday. Go away and take your pretender-in-chief with you!

indypat on September 5, 2009 at 10:12 AM

This incident validates the former ban on media coverage at Dover AFB. The media does not have the common decency to cover such sensative matters.

BohicaTwentyTwo on September 5, 2009 at 10:49 AM

It’s Tim not Tom. Try learning how to read. I’m a liberal, so what. I support our troops no matter where they are sent or why. I might not agree with the policy that sends them there but that has absolutly nothing to do with how much i applaud our military. I think this picture and the hundreds of pictures like it that Americans are sheilded from should be out in public view. You may want to bury your head in the sand and pretend that nothing bad happens in war but the rest of the country knows that’s BS. You Repugs are always so quick to suggest sending our military to battle but then don’t want Americans to see the consequnces of it. You want to pretend that there are’nt plane loads of flag draped coffins carrying our heros home. This is’nt your little fantasy world where nothing bad happens to our soldiers, this is reality and the scene in this picture happens all too often. Americans should see the cost of war, they should see what our soldiers give up for freedom and safety at home.

Tim-in-NJ on September 5, 2009 at 11:05 AM

fourdeucer on September 4, 2009 at 8:55 PM

I got everything out of Ho Chi Minh City and Nah Trang, five different times, no sweat. They nailed me with half a foot locker full, leaving Oki for San Fran, dammit!

I did manage to send a couple hundred home in letters over the years, four or five at a time to my brother. Unfortunately they weren’t the real good ones… Like when “Charlie” was piled up like cord wood or hangin’ heavy in the wire.

Hooaaah…!

Geezer on September 5, 2009 at 11:23 AM

Tim, we all support safe roads, but if a DMV drive school showed “Red Asphalt” and named all the casualties, after soliciting and disregarding the input of the families…think you’d hear about it?

Chris_Balsz on September 5, 2009 at 11:24 AM

blankminde on September 4, 2009 at 8:56 PM

My apologies “MARINE”…!

I spent 99% of my time deep in the boondocks with either five or eleven other “dog faces” training Montagnards. Don’t think I ever met a Marine over there between 1962 and 1966 on the ground? I do however; believe they were flying the F4 Phantoms that provided us air support on one occasion at Kannack?

SEMPER FI…!

“Hope I spelt that correctly?

Geezer on September 5, 2009 at 11:24 AM

To this fallen Marine goes my utmost respect and gratitude for his service. For his family goes my utmost sympathy for his loss.

*salutes*

To the AP I have only the the middle finger salute.

Yakko77 on September 5, 2009 at 11:25 AM

“AP journalists document world events every day. Afghanistan is no exception. We feel it is our journalistic duty to show the reality of the war there, however unpleasant and brutal that sometimes is,” said Santiago Lyon, the director of photography for AP.

Next thing you know CNN will be showing video of our troops getting shot in the head by AQ snipers…Oh, wait.

RobertInLexington on September 5, 2009 at 12:00 PM

An absolute outrage!!!! Maybe we should expect to see pics of reporters who have been shot on the battlefield to be published as well!!!! Ohhh no that would be disrespectful and indecent…. BASTARDS!!!!

build the wall on September 5, 2009 at 12:24 PM

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