How do you enforce a health-insurance mandate?
posted at 3:35 pm on September 3, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
The Kansas City Star seems a bit naive in asking this question. With HR3200 imposing mandates on all American residents to buy health insurance, how does the Obama administration plan to enforce it? After all, keeping track of the insurance status of more than 300 million seems a bit daunting to them:
If health care reform occurs, it is likely to include an individual mandate — a requirement that every American have health insurance.
In theory, health coverage would work something like the requirement that drivers buy auto insurance.
But everyone knows someone who has been hit by an uninsured, and sometimes even an unlicensed, driver.
So just how would an individual health insurance mandate work?
“I have difficulty understanding how we’d police the mandate,” said Truman Medical Center Chief Executive John Bluford. “It’s near impossible. People will game the system.”
Byron York has the answer, which is that HR3200 grants a large increase in power to one of the least-loved agencies in the American government:
But if the plan envisioned by President Barack Obama and Congressional Democrats is enacted, the primary federal bureaucracy responsible for implementing and enforcing national health care will be an old and familiar one: the Internal Revenue Service. Under the Democrats’ health care proposals, the already powerful — and already feared — IRS would wield even more power and extend its reach even farther into the lives of ordinary Americans, and the presidentially-appointed head of the new health care bureaucracy would have access to confidential IRS information about millions of individual taxpayers.
In short, health care reform, as currently envisioned by Democratic leaders, would be built on the foundation of an expanded and more intrusive IRS.
Under the various proposals now on the table, the IRS would become the main agency for determining who has an “acceptable” health insurance plan; for finding and punishing those who don’t have such a plan; for subsidizing individual health insurance costs through the issuance of a tax credits; and for enforcing the rules on those who attempt to opt out, abuse, or game the system. A substantial portion of H.R. 3200, the House health care bill, is devoted to amending the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 in order to give the IRS the authority to perform these new duties.
There is another aspect to this that has thus far escaped much discussion. The IRS will become the authority on “acceptable” insurance policies, which goes far beyond the agency’s expertise and mandate. What makes a tax-collection agency an expert on health insurance? Granted, they have as much expertise as 535 elected officials who can’t be bothered to read bills before voting on them, but that’s a pretty low bar to clear. The IRS exists to collect taxes, not to analyze health-care coverage. The government-controlled “exchanges” are bad enough as a licensing authority; why have the IRS duplicate it?
That leads to a more significant problem. When people worry about facing back-breaking fines for choosing insurance considered inadequate by the IRS, they will move to safer plans. That makes it difficult for insurers to innovate in ways that could be beneficial to both consumers and the health-care system’s efforts to control costs. The IRS will provide additional pressure on people to choose the “public plan” instead of risking IRS ire on private insurance, which is just another way to push private insurers out and push single-payer as the de facto result.
That is the result of having the most coercive of all government agencies in charge of enforcing the individual mandates — for which Congress has no authority to impose in the first place. The only way anyone can support ObamaCare is to love the IRS, which will become a much more intrusive presence in American lives under this plan.









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Heck, Ed, it isn’t like HotAirHeads didn’t know the answer to this one even before HR3200 was unveiled. We’ve been screaming the warning since last summer.
Limerick on September 3, 2009 at 3:38 PM
My dad’s head would explode if the IRS got more power (he works for the Illinois branch of the IRS), especially power over health care
Doctor Zhivago on September 3, 2009 at 3:40 PM
This is the administration that put a baby in charge of cars and Biden in charge of the stimulus. Appointing people to positions in which they have no expertise and to which they have no right is standard procedure on the Obamarama Express.
TouchingTophet on September 3, 2009 at 3:41 PM
What if I prefer to pay cash for my care? I guess I will subjected to agonizing hours of tax scrutiny. There is a huge disconnect here and tying health care to the IRS will be the last straw. I may be sent to Gitmo!
hip shot on September 3, 2009 at 3:41 PM
Is anyone scared yet?!!!
JonPrichard on September 3, 2009 at 3:41 PM
Behavior modification- the Chicago way.
Fletch54 on September 3, 2009 at 3:43 PM
don’t worry, once you learn to love big Obama, all your fears will melt away..he knows more than you do..he cares more for your children than you do….just trust him….
right4life on September 3, 2009 at 3:44 PM
Well I guess this means 1 million new fed employees, at taxpayers expense, will doing big brothers bidding! MY good goodness HOW can any human with two brain cells that work go along with this? The irs needs to go after every single person in dc, that means bho and mo, and with these not reporting, we could solve the debt.
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letget on September 3, 2009 at 3:44 PM
I’s all about Revenue Flow – Not Health Care – that way the Important people (Feds) can make payments to the people who were wronged by the Founders . IMO. (and no one will be the wiser).
wheels on September 3, 2009 at 3:44 PM
Oh, this will just further endear ObamaCare to the people.
Question to the American voter: Do you want the IRS in charge of your health insurance?
rbj on September 3, 2009 at 3:45 PM
It’s a mandate. Your desire is not on the approved list.
So what happens if you don’t buy the insurance? You get fined. What if you don’t or can’t pay the fine? You get interest and penalties tacked on the fine. What is you won’t or can’t pay the sum total? You’re property is confiscated or you go to jail.
Doesn’t this just scare the livin’ crap out of you?!!!
JonPrichard on September 3, 2009 at 3:45 PM
Hah. This is a legal nightmare. Are they really this ignorant of the law or are they finally planning to discard the mask of democracy and use force on us like the aspiring little authoritarians they are? I vote for number two because at least my Glock has a veto.
elduende on September 3, 2009 at 3:46 PM
Only law abiding citizens will obey the law…that is why this has got to be stopped. No compromise.
d1carter on September 3, 2009 at 3:46 PM
I’ve been scared but never more so than I am for my children.
anglee99 on September 3, 2009 at 3:47 PM
So how’s that gonna work with illegal aliens? They aren’t on the IRS rolls. Yet libs insist we can’t manage health care costs till we get them insured. And don’t they represent a pretty sizable chunk of America’s uninsured?
Dee2008 on September 3, 2009 at 3:47 PM
Gawd…why RNC, the GOP and co. aren’t using this line to put the nail on the coffin of Obamacare I can’t fathom. Useless critters, save for a handful of heroes.
RepubChica on September 3, 2009 at 3:49 PM
Who has access to our checking accounts for easy premium withdrawal? Is that also the IRS? Pretty handy.
a capella on September 3, 2009 at 3:49 PM
And this is one of the parts that sticks with the constitution. The 16th ammendment restricts tax collection to NOT be DONE thru enumeration.
Grouping people based on the services they buy is enumeration and this make it unconstitutional.
Freddy on September 3, 2009 at 3:49 PM
If you’re not scared, you’re not paying attention.
bloviator on September 3, 2009 at 3:50 PM
If the Barry and the Gang up on Capital Hill thought they were in hot water already, just wait until news of THIS gets out.
manofaiki on September 3, 2009 at 3:51 PM
Maybe a reporter could ask him about this sometime.
WisCon on September 3, 2009 at 3:51 PM
We must keep government out of our bedroom!
By giving it lots to do rummaging through our wallets, purses, financial records, our refrigerator, etc.
But at least we can shove anything we want up our rectums and kill anything we want in our uteruses.
And isn’t that what America is all about?
NoDonkey on September 3, 2009 at 3:51 PM
The bulk of the uninsured are illegals and the poor who are unemployed or working in the shadow economy. So, they’re supposed to fine a 1040 or what now?
Terry_Dyne on September 3, 2009 at 3:51 PM
SSSHHH! Ixna on the actsfa.
BobMbx on September 3, 2009 at 3:52 PM
Hey, how are Bo and the girls getting along? Can we take a picture of Sasha playing in the Oval Office, just like JFK & Jr.?
rbj on September 3, 2009 at 3:52 PM
It’s shocking how everyday something new, something disturbing, is discovered about HR3200.
RepubChica on September 3, 2009 at 3:53 PM
Up next, accountants doing open-heart surgery.
hawksruleva on September 3, 2009 at 3:53 PM
Doesn’t this just scare the livin’ crap out of you?!!!
This certainly does scare the crap out of me. My statement about Gitmo also is true because when they come to get me, there will be some ammunition spent. I’ve had it with these morons.
hip shot on September 3, 2009 at 3:53 PM
RepubChica on September 3, 2009 at 3:53 PM
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Scarier still that our lame senators and congressmen are not the ones doing the discovering.
pcpower1 on September 3, 2009 at 3:55 PM
hip shot on September 3, 2009 at 3:53 PM
They’re not interested in coming to get you, they can bleed you dry financially, using a computer in DC.
That’s the beauty of this.
NoDonkey on September 3, 2009 at 3:55 PM
We know nothing bad could happen with the IRS having control over bank accounts. Government always gets it right just like the letters sent out by the VA to tell veterans that they had ALS.
How many accounts to you think there will be of people’s bank accounts cleaned out due to a bureaucratic mix up.
I foresee many being fianancial ruined with no recourse or remedy only that the government corrects it in their own good time.
HoustonRight on September 3, 2009 at 3:57 PM
Sadly, part of the problem is that there are SO MANY bad things, even when you know about them, you can’t talk about all of them.
But this one is awful. We’re setting up a system where people will be fined, or maybe even jailed, for not having “adequate” insurance. Unlike when you climb behind the seat of a car, merely breathing does not endanger others.
Woe to the people on the margins, who can’t afford great care, but are too rich to qualify for Obamacare. They’ll get no care, and be fined for it. The less expensive plans they currently have will be deemed unsuitable, and they’ll have nowhere to go. Until Uncle Sam raises the bar on who can get into the public option to include more people, thus squeezing even more private insurers out. Nice pattern, eh?
hawksruleva on September 3, 2009 at 3:57 PM
LOL good joke…
sonofdy on September 3, 2009 at 3:59 PM
This whole thing is becoming like The Portrait of Dorian Gray.
Obama keeps describing this strapping, handsome gentleman whom all the ladies adore.
While upstairs, in the attic, a portrait of this man is growing older and uglier with each passing day.
Fortunately, more and more people are joining us in the attic, where resides the real Dorian Gray.
TXUS on September 3, 2009 at 3:59 PM
This just gets better and better…
… Instead of going to the DMV to get health care, now you will have to go to the IRS, and make sure you bring your financial statements with you.
Seven Percent Solution on September 3, 2009 at 3:59 PM
Big libs don’t pay taxes so this doesn’t include them.
farright on September 3, 2009 at 4:01 PM
Replace the income tax with the Fair tax (sales), get rid of the IRS as we know it, and keep the information of how much each and every one of us makes away from government eyes, because government hands are not far behind. Set the sales tax at whatever percentage is needed to make the system work.
AnotherOpinion on September 3, 2009 at 4:01 PM
They’re not interested in coming to get you, they can bleed you dry financially, using a computer in DC.
That’s the beauty of this.
NoDonkey on September 3, 2009 at 3:55 PM
That account in Panama is getting more funds this week!
hip shot on September 3, 2009 at 4:02 PM
IRS – Insurgence Rape Service
- The Cat
MirCat on September 3, 2009 at 4:04 PM
What can I do to serve my President? That’s all I want to know. I. Will. Obey.
DrW on September 3, 2009 at 4:04 PM
What do you do for a living?
TXMomof3 on September 3, 2009 at 4:04 PM
Figuring out your taxes is already a huge pain in the assets, so the plan is to make it more difficult, more confusing, and more time consuming. Yeah, I believe it.
Blake on September 3, 2009 at 4:05 PM
As a pseudo accountant (I’m more finance oriented than accounting, but I do both), No, no and hell no!
We lost alot of protection from the states when the 16th amendment was passed, thus effectively bypassing the state on taxation. It was the way taxes were handled that forced the states to keep the federal government in check, now it has no (obvious) reason too.
TKSnider on September 3, 2009 at 4:05 PM
DON’T FORGET THIS!!!
NEVER FORGET THIS!
WHEN I FOUND YOU, YOU WERE SO DRUNK YOU COULDN’T BUY BRANDY!!!
Oops, wait, wrong speech.
(flip flip)
Oh yes, here it is!
(clears throat)
Remember, my fellow Americans, one of these bills was supposed to be passed in 21 DAYS OR LESS.
We’re SUPPOSED to be JUST NOW DISCOVERING what a fast one they pulled on us.
manofaiki on September 3, 2009 at 4:05 PM
“All persons requesting medical care must produce proper
documentation, i.e., a current and valid
‘National Healthcare Identification Card’.
Failure to produce said documents
will be just cause for arrest and imprisonment”.
mrt721 on September 3, 2009 at 4:06 PM
tax collector = health insurance expert?
scary times
that accounting degree really goes a long way doesn’t it
cmsinaz on September 3, 2009 at 4:07 PM
No, THOUSANDS of federal employees would have access. Since when does the head of a department actually do the ‘work’?
GarandFan on September 3, 2009 at 4:09 PM
IRS Agent: Sir, your tax bill hasn’t been paid in full and you owe the US Government $4,000, it can be settled by monthly payments.
Oh, while I’m here we have a handy new plan for health insurance in which you will save $87 per month on your premium simply by switching to a higer deductible. We of course can apply that to your tax bill.
hip shot on September 3, 2009 at 4:11 PM
In the Dems’ ideal world, mandates are paired with a public option, so that every person not already insured who doesn’t want to purchase insurance, takes the public option.
Without the public option, mandates become infinitely harder to sell. Do Dems seriously believe that they’re going to solve the health insurance “crisis” by forcing every slacker in the United States to buy insurance? Aside from the logistics and legal issues associated with mandates, aren’t they going to make virtually everyone in America who isn’t already insured hate Barack H. Obama with a passion?
That’s why I worry that a watered-down bill will get passed, one that includes mandates but no public option. Within months people will be clamoring for a public option simply to avoid the mandates. Thus will the public option slip into place.
Missy on September 3, 2009 at 4:12 PM
Obama lied. Tax cuts died.
The facts that this new legislation is not understood by anyone yet, and won’t be for some time, and that the IRS doesn’t even know how to be consistent with the current tax code point to worse abuse of power to come from Washington that will be focused against Obama opponents.
You comply. You honestly think that you have complied; you may even have a legitimate tax firm perform your work and argue your case. But if the IRS and the entire powers of federal government determine otherwise for whatever reason, to sacrifice you as an example or merely from spite, HR3200 is your end-of-life-worth-living warrant and confiscation of whatever measly “estate” you Willed to your children.
“Rubbed out” by progressive politics.
maverick muse on September 3, 2009 at 4:12 PM
The fools are driving the country to revolution . . . very frightening.
rplat on September 3, 2009 at 4:12 PM
The IRS will adopt regulations, just like any other federal agency, to define what an “acceptable” plan is. That doesn’t necessarily mean that there will be additional pressure to go to the “public plan” instead of a “acceptable plan”.
There’s risk now in preparing and filing your taxes, but I don’t see many people telling the IRS to do the calculations for them.
You are baselessly fear mongering, Ed. And if a coverage mandate is required to eliminate pre-existing condition exclusions, I’m all for it.
Jimbo3 on September 3, 2009 at 4:13 PM
IRS agent putting on a surgical glove with a “SNAP”…!
Seven Percent Solution on September 3, 2009 at 4:13 PM
Get him a job at this south side hot dog stand.
WashJeff on September 3, 2009 at 4:13 PM
“All your paycheck belongs to us!” – I.R.S.
fbcmusicman on September 3, 2009 at 4:13 PM
Things like this are just going to cause more and more people to go “off the grid”.
IRS: You don’t have medical insurance. We’re going to fine you.
Citizenry: We’re not going to pay.
IRS: We’ll take it out of your bank account.
Citizenry: We’ll clean out our accounts and close them.
IRS: We’ll access your credit cards.
Citizenry: We’ll chop them up and close those accounts with zero balances.
IRS: We’ll garnish your wages.
Citizenry: We’ll quit our jobs and find employment that pays in cash.
IRS: We’ll put you in prison.
Citizenry: Where? They’re already over-crowded and have no money to function as it is.
IRS: We’ll put liens on, or seize your property.
Citizenry: Bring back-up.
This whole notion of the Feds accessing bank accounts to confiscate monies owed will kill banks as people start withdrawing every cent they have and stuffing it into their mattresses. The beast needs to be starved. Starved of power and starved of money…and soon. The problem is, this particular beast is cornered, and that’s when it gets really dangerous.
Left Coast Right Mind on September 3, 2009 at 4:13 PM
“A pound of flesh”
maverick muse on September 3, 2009 at 4:14 PM
considering “invincibles” make up the demographic most likely to support Obama and his health care, their is some sweet irony in the fact that these clowns who get all their news from John Stewart are going to wake with the Federal government forcing them to spend money on health insurance.
rob verdi on September 3, 2009 at 4:15 PM
Obama’s cabinet should have had the IRS do the forms for them.
WashJeff on September 3, 2009 at 4:15 PM
It is my right as a Christian to opt out of mandatory health insurance. One of the tenents of my Christian faith is the healing power of Jesus. Call me a conscientiuos objector.
sonnyspats1 on September 3, 2009 at 4:17 PM
Just remember how quickly Joe the Plumber’s tax issue came to light after he asked a real question of Dear Leader.
I do not trust the government with my tax information, why should I trust it with my health information?
rbj on September 3, 2009 at 4:17 PM
Because their intentions are good.
Health care records at the IRS. A great new source of information to dig up on GOP candidates that the Dems want to squash.
WashJeff on September 3, 2009 at 4:19 PM
What could possibly go wrong with this?
After the failed lawyers trying their hand in reforming health care, next we’ll have the failed CPAs telling us what plan is “acceptable” to them and what is not.
Idiot politicians formulating idiotic policy to be put into place by idiot bureacrats. Wonderful.
Not necessarily? Until the people who run private health insurance figure out that they are huge money losers, or they get the government to jack up rates to where they make even larger profits than they do now.
Either way, it’s going to suck for us.
Exactly, what isn’t well managed by the federal government. Well besides Medicare, Medicaid, the VA . . .
NoDonkey on September 3, 2009 at 4:21 PM
They will bleed us dry to accomplish their EVIL plans, and if someone questions the evilness of this plan, then they are sick.
mobydutch on September 3, 2009 at 4:25 PM
Why ohhh WHY are all Americans not totally in an uproar over our federal government seizing unlimited power without any pretense of following their constitutional mandate and limitations???
If I get this right, the government has no limitations on what it can take monetarily from it’s citizens and future generations, spend those trillions on whatever it wants against public approval, and MANDATE what we have to purchase from what we have left. This is incredible.
I’m willing to bet if uncle sam seized the media and came around confiscating our guns, the sheeple would do little more than grumble and go along with the program at this point.
Goodeye_Closed on September 3, 2009 at 4:26 PM
Will the ONE address this plan in his speech to Congress??
mobydutch on September 3, 2009 at 4:27 PM
Not anymore!
Does anyone want to call Ron Paul or Glenn Beck flaky now?
While not a conspiracy theorist myself…this is getting bad.
Goodeye_Closed on September 3, 2009 at 4:29 PM
Picture the bag checking gangsters at Homeboy Security with access to your IRS files. Nomsayin?
Alden Pyle on September 3, 2009 at 4:29 PM
Ask the 27 year old kid who writes his speeches. He’ll know.
NoDonkey on September 3, 2009 at 4:30 PM
Exactly!
Nice post Ed……
Goodeye_Closed on September 3, 2009 at 4:30 PM
Sheesh… they found a way of taxing us for being ALIVE.
itsacookbook on September 3, 2009 at 4:31 PM
Obvious question.
To receive the “W”‘s tax rebate, one had to file a 1040. I had a discussion with a cow-orker who hadn’t filed in 3 years and said “If they owe you money, they don’t want you to file”.
Had another discussion about the same time with a friend who makes below the threshold and normally doesn’t file anything. Says the IRS doesn’t care about how those who were below the minimum threshold, but she’d have to file this time in order to get her check.
What’s the IRS to make of these two cases relative to health care?
Are we going to have IRS agents on the street, looking for homeless types who haven’t filed their 1040s?
I don’t think so.
Mew
acat on September 3, 2009 at 4:31 PM
Which would be very welcome honestly. For people my age and with my health, until we start having kids, the only thing we need is cheap emergency health insurance for some freak accident.
Esthier on September 3, 2009 at 4:32 PM
That sort of thing has already begun. GM and Chrysler dealerships, that predominately donated to the GOP, were shuttered during the takeover at a much greater rate than those that gave to the Dems, even if they were shown to be more successful. Not too far of a leap for voter registration records to get mixed in with financials (especially in states with motor-voter laws). “Oh, look…you’re a registered Republican. We’re going to have to take a closer look at your tax returns. You do have all your receipts dating back to 1997, right?”.
Left Coast Right Mind on September 3, 2009 at 4:32 PM
You do know that billions of dollars are missing from the tarp and stimulus money legislation right? Where is it and who has it?
sonnyspats1 on September 3, 2009 at 4:32 PM
I pledge to fight this crap to the finish.
mobydutch on September 3, 2009 at 4:32 PM
Nope, nor will he address giving unions billions for heathcare even though they will be exempt from government regulations.
HoustonRight on September 3, 2009 at 4:33 PM
Legal Insurrection had a pretty comprehensive report on this a couple of weeks ago. This fight is going to get pretty bitter over the next month or so. We need to keep a spotlight on the numerous flaws in these plans.
msmveritas on September 3, 2009 at 4:34 PM
I had a catastophic policy that only would kick in once I accumulated over $5,000 in medical expenses in grad school and it cost me all of $50 a month.
The only good thing about this is that all the young people who worked to get Obama elected, are going to be forced to buy a policy for $1,500 per month, to cover a laundry list of things they neither need nor want. Hope and change you stupid young suckers.
NoDonkey on September 3, 2009 at 4:39 PM
Imagine what new highs your blood pressure will reach when you realize that not only will you be waiting for health care, but any interaction with anything associated with health care will bring up a review of your income and tax status along with your medical records. What could possibly go wrong?
DanMan on September 3, 2009 at 4:42 PM
I think we are approaching the issue from the wrong angle.
Think like this :
1. Which race has the majority of taxpayers and IRS records?
2. Which race has not paid reparations?
3. What race has “exploited” every person of color ?
4. What do liberals see @ every fed-med protest ?
5. What people DO NOT have any taxpayer funded interest group/ rent a thug /hoodlum brigade?
6. Who will be the only and exclusive victims of IRS enforcement ?
Social Justice
See that yet ?
macncheez on September 3, 2009 at 4:44 PM
Maybe we can put some of the unemployed to work building special IRS prisons. That’s the ticket.
Griz on September 3, 2009 at 4:45 PM
That would be perfect, but I can’t seem to find anything like that for me and my husband. The cheapest I’ve found is something that’s around $300 and would still only function as emergency insurance anyway for all the good it would do. If we’d bought it when we’d first gotten married, we’d have spent over $16k on it by now, though our actual medical expenses have been less than $2k.
It’s insane.
No, they’re just going to go with the public option most likely.
Besides, not all of us voted for him.
Esthier on September 3, 2009 at 4:45 PM
Yes, I hear the health care is great in prison.
mobydutch on September 3, 2009 at 4:47 PM
To start with, it’s unconstitutional … Need we go further?
tarpon on September 3, 2009 at 4:47 PM
Ha, have they even paid their back taxes from last year yet?
For me, this will be all it takes to go off the grid. I’ll walk away from the house and keep only what I can carry on my back.
It’s time for America to decide if they believe in the foundation of this country, or they’re gonna stand there and watch it be destroyed. I have no faith in the “elected representatives” in Washington (other than believing they are there for themselves only).
To quote Nietzche and Burke, All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.
jackal40 on September 3, 2009 at 4:51 PM
Esthier on September 3, 2009 at 4:45 PM
Insurance rates are much higher for women of child-bearing age.
And that $50 was a decade ago, in Missouri. All states are different and I would imagine some don’t even allow policies like this any longer.
NoDonkey on September 3, 2009 at 4:52 PM
If they get that choice, yes. But it’s looking like the public option is going to be very difficult to pass (at least with that name). What happens if we end up with mandates and no public option? Either individuals or small businesses (forced to pay fines if they don’t provide insurance to employees) or both will be totally screwed.
Missy on September 3, 2009 at 4:53 PM
Kill the bill.
itsacookbook on September 3, 2009 at 4:56 PM
Sooo… the IRS will have to “track” and keep records on this from every business (in case they are paying for your insurance) AND every individual, and corelate the data…
So, what about folks like me? I’m on Champus Prime (retired military)… will there be some form for me to fill out? Will I have to PROOVE I’m retired? or will they just take my word for it?
Or will Insurance Companies have to give the Government lists of who they have covered?
Romeo13 on September 3, 2009 at 4:57 PM
Yeah, sigh…
JonPrichard on September 3, 2009 at 4:58 PM
The $1500 was referring to the public option, if they think that’s going to be cheap, they are delusional.
But everything else will be more, because the mandates (mental health) will be ridiculously expensive.
This whole plan is a disaster on wheels.
NoDonkey on September 3, 2009 at 4:58 PM
Yep, the mandate is pretty much Unconstitutional… but without the mandate you CAN’T make insurance companies cover preexisting Conditions…
Otherwise people will not pay for insurance until they get sick… then suddenly get it to pay for their bills when they do get sick… then drop it again once well…
Romeo13 on September 3, 2009 at 5:00 PM
To start with, it’s unconstitutional … Need we go further?
tarpon on September 3, 2009
That little factoid doesn’t always stop the power-hungry mad hatters in Washington.
JonPrichard on September 3, 2009 at 5:00 PM
Yes. But let’s take the opportunity of the sleeping giant waking up to
Kill the IRS
— Adopt the flat tax or fair tax to get these monkeys off our backs.
Christian Conservative on September 3, 2009 at 5:01 PM
So did Move-on or DNC or Obamabots for the Destruction of America just send out an email asking everyone to tweet/facebook this quote: “No one should die because they cannot afford health care, and no one should go broke because they get sick”
darcee on September 3, 2009 at 5:02 PM
Exercise your rights,VOTE them all out of office.Let them join the unemployed.
easyone on September 3, 2009 at 5:04 PM
No need to take your financial statements. Some kid working at the IRS will simply hit a few keys and have all your statements on his screen.
Josiah on September 3, 2009 at 5:05 PM
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