Vodkapundit: Keep your kid home from school for Obama’s speech

posted at 5:15 pm on September 2, 2009 by Allahpundit

Really? One pap-filled 20-minute speech about working hard and serving others is so lethal a threat to tender minds that they have to be yanked off the premises for the day to shield them from it? Or is this more of a protest in principle at the idea of the president giving a captive audience of schoolkids a pep talk on civics?

Nope, Obama can’t just say hey to the kiddies and encourage them to do their homework. He has to make this a — what does the Left call it? — a teachable moment. A speech-in, if you will. Teachers have even been given handy instructions on how best to integrate The One into the classroom…

If my son were in a public school I’d call him in sick next Tuesday. I’d keep him home. I suggest you do so. I urge you to do so. If pressed, be honest about your reasons — but be reasonable about presenting them. Otherwise, don’t offer an explanation. Make it a silent protest.

And while your kids are home, think up some patriotic games to play…

Spread the word. Pass the link around. And see if the President’s face is still smiling, when he realizes he’s talking to half-empty classrooms. Do make it a teachable moment — one where the would-be teacher does the learning.

I’m with CJ. If this turns out to be some hamfisted attempt by The One to pitch his agenda to kids — which would be politically insane given the outcry it would cause, a sneak preview of which may be found here — there’ll be ample time for outrageous outrage later. For all the media fainting spells over Obama’s oratory, you can count on one hand the number of truly memorable lines he’s uttered; I doubt he’s going to come up with such a corker next week that kids will be planning their lives around it. Remember, this is the same guy who can’t sell universal health care, the virtual raison d’etre of the Democratic Party these days, to the Blue Dogs. Besides, there may be special resonance for black students in watching Obama pitch the value of education. If he inspires a few kids to hit the books harder, more power to him.

Irresistible exit question: If it’s true that “state indoctrination of children is a hallmark of totalitarian government” (never mind that various subtle forms of indoctrination are happening in schools constantly), does that mean atheists were right all along in opposing prayer in public schools?

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izoneguy, I just mailed the Plano middle school she goes to and said, for my child, I want her to attend that as a planned activity (she’s in 8th grade and I am also in Plano).

Jimbo3 on September 2, 2009 at 10:14 PM

Right, TheQuestion. It’s not important that the President tell them the importance of reading or studying. sarc/

Jimbo3 on September 2, 2009 at 10:16 PM

I emailed my son’s principal earlier today for three things: to get a copy of the speech transcript if the school had been provided it; to find out, in detail, how the teachers would implement the “guidelines” provided; and, to express my extreme displeasure with the entire event. He replied:

“We, to my knowledge, have yet to receive any information concerning a speech or text of a speech from the President. Thank you for you concern.”

Didn’t another commenter mention that schools were notified on Aug. 25? His response did not fill me with confidence for some reason.

anglee99 on September 2, 2009 at 10:16 PM

I guess everyone agrees that Bush should never have gone to that public school on 9/11 to read to children.

Jimbo3 on September 2, 2009 at 10:10 PM

Oh yeah, a personal appearance by the president to perhaps 30 kids is the exact same thing as forcing every k-12 kid to listen to Ozero’s bloviating.. Yep, 20,000,000 = 30

bullseye on September 2, 2009 at 10:16 PM

bullseye on September 2, 2009 at 8:35 PM

My grandson, (who is 10 now and went to a Palin rally with me last year), was pushed down by a Obamabot classmate last year. The kid found out my grandson was for McCain, and responded exactly like the One told him too. Indoctrination before the election…

lovingmyUSA on September 2, 2009 at 10:17 PM

I’m with CJ.

*gag* You mean that there is someone that STILL reads CJ?

lovingmyUSA on September 2, 2009 at 10:18 PM

I’ve emailed our superintentent to ask for what the plan is for our county. It better be optional.

If it is not it appears I won’t be able to vote with my feet and pull the kids out of school – they want to go. They are already preparing their answers to the questions – especially the “Why is it important that we listen to the President” question – they say he needs to listen to them, not the other way around. Well give my kids an extra cookie..what an awesome answer.

Rockygold on September 2, 2009 at 10:18 PM

I just felt the need for some Symphonic Goth and fired up Within Temptation on Youtube. There are three songs which one could apply to Ozero: Angels, Our Solemn Hour and Deceiver of Fools. Here is a verse from Deceiver

Please awake
And see the truth
He can only be
If you believe what he tells you
Remember who you are
What you stand for
And there will always be a way

Besides – for the guys out there, Sharon is SMOKING HOT!!

bullseye on September 2, 2009 at 10:20 PM

Jimbo3 on September 2, 2009 at 10:16 PM

Ah, but you assume that the importance of reading is in fact what he’s going to talk about. We don’t know, do we, because Obama hasn’t released a transcript of his speech. Most transparent administration evah.

TheQuestion on September 2, 2009 at 10:20 PM

my brothers daughters school forced al gores ” inconvenient truth ” on them as if it were of value,

why shouldnt the lemmings love this next level of parental interference.

hey, if it works out obama may be able to reach the ranks of pol pot

Sonosam on September 2, 2009 at 10:23 PM

How much do you want to bet that the importance of reading or studying is what he talks about? I’ll bet 100 fake internet dollars that it is.

Jimbo3 on September 2, 2009 at 10:23 PM

I guess everyone agrees that Bush should never have gone to that public school on 9/11 to read to children.

Jimbo3 on September 2, 2009 at 10:10 PM

I wouldn’t go that far.

I do suspect, though, that everyone agrees that Bush should not have given a speech directed at all schoolchildren while in the midst of pushing his Social Security reform.

At least, not without giving parents and school officials sufficient notice of what that speech would be.

malclave on September 2, 2009 at 10:24 PM

My children go to the local, public school. The curriculum is pretty straightforward and the local school board has a common sense approach to things. Regardless, I keep an eye on things and have had to step in when I hear about presentations that may be one sided. “An Inconvenient Truth” comes to mind…I called the school when I heard that this movie was going to be shown to my sixth grader. I told the administrator that I felt an opposing viewpoint would be warranted given the nature of the program. The school decided to drop the whole thing.
Now, I know that this is an unfair comparison to Barack’s speech, but as a parent, I would at least like to see the text of the speech before allowing my kids to participate…I do not appreciate having persons of influence speak to my children without MY permission. Do you??? I will be calling the school districts in the morning and telling them that my children will be enjoying a four-day weekend solely due to their decision to participate in this odd exercise… Hey, I would keep my kids home if George Bush tried this..

TheChicagoWay on September 2, 2009 at 10:25 PM

My concern is that this may be only a trial run and could easily turn into a monthly (if not weekly) thing.

Dr. ZhivBlago on September 2, 2009 at 9:07 PM

More likely this is a trial run to see how it is received. Based on how unconcerned most American parents are about their public schools, he thinks he can put one over on us. I think he has bigger plans, ala Saul Alinskey…

lovingmyUSA on September 2, 2009 at 10:25 PM

bullseye on September 2, 2009 at 8:35 PM

My grandson, (who is 10 now and went to a Palin rally with me last year), was pushed down by a Obamabot classmate last year. The kid found out my grandson was for McCain, and responded exactly like the One told him too. Indoctrination before the election…

lovingmyUSA on September 2, 2009 at 10:17 PM

My heart goes out for your grandson. Kids can be exceptionally cruel.

I think my son will be OK. He is starting his first year in a prep school. The faculty and staff are a bit more to the right than you would find in a public school. On top of that, he just passed his third degree black belt in Tae Kwon do and is a pretty big kid. He should be OK for a couple of years.

What worries me about this Ozero play is that it could easily be manipulated to use peer pressure to intimidate and coerce.

That is also why I am horrified by the possibility of mandatory “Yoot Service” by obama. Let’s say your kid is a conservative. The Yoot service decides he has to go to another town to bunk with a bunch of obots. What could possibly go wrong??

bullseye on September 2, 2009 at 10:26 PM

And what will President Obamao ask the captive kids to do on the Day of Service on September 11?

onlineanalyst on September 2, 2009 at 10:27 PM

How much do you want to bet that the importance of reading or studying is what he talks about? I’ll bet 100 fake internet dollars that it is.

Jimbo3 on September 2, 2009 at 10:23 PM

So you think he’ll just be pushing Kerry’s line of ‘stupid and lazy people end up in the Army’?

Could be.

For this bet, what are the exact conditions… that the importance of studying will be PART of his speech (I’m sure it will be), or that it will be the ENTIRETY of his message?

malclave on September 2, 2009 at 10:28 PM

anglee99 on September 2, 2009 at 10:16 PM

My grandson’s principle didn’t know about this either. You should have heard his voice when he went to the http://www.ed.gov site that I pointed him to while on the phone. Now I will have to call him back tomorrow and find out what the school plans to do. I plan to be there in the classroom if it is being shown.

lovingmyUSA on September 2, 2009 at 10:34 PM

Isn’t this a violation of the separation of church and state ?

ignatzk on September 2, 2009 at 10:34 PM

Yes really. Newsflash AP, children are not the property of the state contrary to what Hillary thinks.

“One pap-filled 20-minute speech about working hard and serving others is so lethal….” Inclucating a servile mentality in the next generation couldn’t be more lethal. This nation was built by people who pursued their interests. If you want demogogues spewing venom about one’s duty to the tribe, state, volk, etc. you need to find a country besides America in which to live. Life, liberty, property and the pursuit of one’s own happiness. Not government “school” indoctrination direct from Bismarck’s Prussia. What can’t likes of CJ and AP understand basic principles?

As the Marine said at the townhall meeting in Washington last week, “stay the away from my children!”

A month, or a year, from now all of the moderate i.e. unprincipled RINOs will be nattering “what’s so bad about Billy Ayers designing your school’s curriculum, there’s nothing to worry about unless your kids come home and start lecturing you on global warming…” Oops, too late on that.

Kalapana on September 2, 2009 at 10:46 PM

Don’t feed Obama’s cult of personality.
Raise hell with your kid’s school, the school administration (county level), the school board, and the PTA. Keep your kid at home on Tuesday and get actively involved as a parent in your child’s education. Fight this fascist attempt at indoctrination of your kids.

FIGHT THE POWER!

BottomLine5 on September 2, 2009 at 10:48 PM

I bet he doesn’t tell them to not do drugs, get all wee wee weeed up, like he did because they might get to be President or a Professional Ball Player or Actor or Movie Star if they do!

Rather, work hard, study, read and they can have a good job like a teacher or policeman or fireman and have just enough money to survive after the President takes their money for taxes and gives it to:

those who don’t want to study or work hard, who want to sit around watchin TV, Drinkin, smokin, makin babies and wearin their pants around their knees and are not lucky enough to become STARS or CZARS or Racist Millionare Preachers!

Pinnochio (A Real Boy or Just A Puppet) wouldn’t say somethin stooopid like that! would he?

dhunter on September 2, 2009 at 10:56 PM

FIGHT THE POWER!

As I said in Michelle Malkin’s thread, the call to keep children at home makes about as much sense to me as the call for town-hallers to shut up and stay home. You can’t FIGHT THE POWER behind your home front door with no one listening. A very teachable moment for parents to send their kids out with plenty of mental/verbal ammunition in my humble opinion.

Marcus on September 2, 2009 at 10:58 PM

Middle schools in McKinney ISD (Texas) have been told to show it. I do not know if that extends to elementary or high school. I only have knowledge of what came down today from the administrators.
Is Plano saying it is up to the teacher? I would be surprised. Having been in that district before, they are big on everyone being on the same page.

sandgal on September 2, 2009 at 11:07 PM

Maybe Pinnochio is settin you all up because your kids will be documented for skippin school and you will be shown to be RACIST for not lettin your kids go to a school to listen to a 1/2 black, friend of a Racist minister, who was instructed by a Pentagon bombing communist, and has a 1/2 brother livin in a hut and an Illegal alien Aunt in the Boston projects, neither one of which he cares enough about to give them a buck1

He obviously cares a lot for your kids as his internal polls must show the only adults still favoring him are Chris Matthews, Kieth Olberdork, Kathleen Parker and David Brookes, plus a couple Senate Scum and Congress Critters, the rest of the country would rather vote for Mickey Mouse than this Pinnochio.

Lower the votin age to 8 so’s Pinnochio can get re-elected!

dhunter on September 2, 2009 at 11:08 PM

I guess it’s getting late. Perhaps GOD will smile on us and have someone upload the script to a purn movie to the teleprompters. Betcha ozero would go for five minutes before he realized what he was reading.

bullseye on September 2, 2009 at 11:10 PM

Hey, Ozero leave them kids alone
All in All you’re just another brick in the Fascist Wall.

Kalapana on September 2, 2009 at 11:22 PM

Obamao is speaking to a captive audience of students? Talk about the bigotry of low expectations.

onlineanalyst on September 2, 2009 at 11:25 PM

“Give me four years to teach the children and the seed I have sown will never be uprooted.” ~ Vladimir Lenin

“When an opponent declares, “I will not come over to your side,” I calmly say, “Your child belongs to us already… What are you? You will pass on. Your descendants, however, now stand in the new camp. In a short time they will know nothing else but this new community.” ~ Adolf Hitler

jjrakman on September 2, 2009 at 11:26 PM

Well, I disagree. It’s just a short civics lesson. The paranoia pretty much defines the people paranoid, not the speaker.

AnninCA on September 2, 2009 at 11:27 PM

Moreover, if your children cannot deal with alternative perspectives, then I think you’re really off on parenting.

Do what you wish. I think it’s plain tacky.

AnninCA on September 2, 2009 at 11:34 PM

My concern is that this may be only a trial run and could easily turn into a monthly (if not weekly) thing.

Dr. ZhivBlago on September 2, 2009 at 9:07 PM

More likely this is a trial run to see how it is received. Based on how unconcerned most American parents are about their public schools, he thinks he can put one over on us. I think he has bigger plans, ala Saul Alinskey…

lovingmyUSA on September 2, 2009 at 10:25 PM

I’m with you both. I don’t expect The Fascist One will be earth shattering in the speech…this is a combination of testing the waters and plowing the ground for the next go round…so it’s actually important that we are all paying attention and voicing our concerns in all the ways that are being done. So he knows we are aware and perfectly willing to take on this fight.

For the record, I don’t have any children in the system any more…but IF I did, you better believe I’d make sure they missed the whole day and with a note stating why, in advance, for the purpose of making clear where the boundaries are…

Minorcan Maven on September 2, 2009 at 11:39 PM

Give it up, Ap. Childishness gets old fast.

Saltysam on September 2, 2009 at 11:42 PM

Moreover, if your children cannot deal with alternative perspectives, then I think you’re really off on parenting.

Do what you wish. I think it’s plain tacky.

AnninCA on September 2, 2009 at 11:34 PM

So, if you have kids, I suppose you’ll be sending them to the next meeting of your local KKK for ‘alternate perspectives’. Let me know how that goes.

Sorry but this is really creepy. Those who don’t know or remember history are doomed to repeat it.

jjrakman on September 2, 2009 at 11:26 PM hit the nail on the head with his two quotes.

bullseye on September 2, 2009 at 11:42 PM

Oh please. Get back to reality, people.

He’s pushed the envelope on liberal policies, which a lot of people still are, understandably, still nervous about.

Frankly, he did ram through that stimulus bill, the GM bailout, and it was looking like any opposition was inept and drooping.

But that is over.

Seriously, we are now entering into the reality. YOU guys will, no doubt, hate it. It will still be terribly liberal.

But it’s not going to be radical. You kidding me?

This is the guy who voted “not present” more often than anyone.

He’s a placater type.

AnninCA on September 2, 2009 at 11:46 PM

This is an Easy one folks! :)
DON’T keep em’ home.
GO to School WITH your kids and sit there and watch the teacher squirm their way through the propaganda they had written BEFORE they knew you were gonna be there!
just sit there with your arms crossed an stare. that will do more good than an absence.

-Wasteland Man.

P.S. if you have more than one kid, go with the youngest one. they would be most damaged and the teacher feel the most guilty about the whole thing! :D

WastelandMan on September 2, 2009 at 11:48 PM

So, if you have kids, I suppose you’ll be sending them to the next meeting of your local KKK for ‘alternate perspectives’. Let me know how that goes.

Sorry but this is really creepy. Those who don’t know or remember history are doomed to repeat it.

jjrakman on September 2, 2009 at 11:26 PM hit the nail on the head with his two quotes.

bullseye on September 2, 2009 at 11:42 PM

I know, but I was convinced that parenting was about teaching my kid to find his own center, find integrity, and understand how important that is in life.

If you stand for everything, you will fall for everything.

That was MY family value I passed on.

And that meant, I had to let him experience a lot of different perspectives and pray a lot.

AnninCA on September 2, 2009 at 11:48 PM

This is an Easy one folks! :)
DON’T keep em’ home.
GO to School WITH your kids and sit there and watch the teacher squirm their way through the propaganda they had written BEFORE they knew you were gonna be there!
just sit there with your arms crossed an stare. that will do more good than an absence.

-Wasteland Man.

And then I want you to picture the discussion when your children are in their……oh let’s pick their late 30′s.

And let them retell this story.

How do you think you will look?

AnninCA on September 2, 2009 at 11:50 PM

How do you think you will look?

AnninCA on September 2, 2009 at 11:50 PM

Like someone who cares about their kids.

BIATCH.

-Wasteland Man.

WastelandMan on September 2, 2009 at 11:54 PM

If Reagan or Bush had given such a speech in our schools, the light from exploding liberal heads would have been visible from the Moon. Just saying.

tbrosz on September 2, 2009 at 11:56 PM

*ahem* What I meant to say is that…
You needn’t be disruptive or confrontational just BE there so anything that is taught that you don’t agree with you can correct right then and there. keeping your kids shielded from anything isn’t going to help. and at least you will be PARENTING. AND… If the president doesn’t try to Jedi mind trick your kids or the teachers either, then HEY! you can all enjoy a day of learning. Get it? (hopefully you can get it through the thick smog in California too.)

-Wasteland Man.

WastelandMan on September 2, 2009 at 11:59 PM

Well, I don’t think kindergartners should be exposed to anything other than the three R’s and playtime. Thankfully, Frisco, TX is proactively opting out. Received this email today before I had a chance to even ask.

As many of you know, President Obama is delivering an address geared toward students on September 8th. We cannot be sure of the length, content, or appropriateness for all 6 of our grade levels before it airs. Because of this, we have decided that we will leave this for you to approach in any way you see fit in your own home. We will not be showing this at school. If you would like to view it with your child, we suggest recording it so you will have it to watch one evening. Students are still expected to be in attendance this day.

topspin67 on September 3, 2009 at 12:08 AM

I think sometimes HOTAIR misses the point. Again, it is all about the fact that the starting point where argument begin often sets up who wins (Van Jones is right about this). You have to take a step back from “how much damage can Obama do when talking to kids” to what in the heck is he thinking by doing it in the first place?? Does he believe he has the right? Does he think he can begin the transition from young individual minds to those who will follow “dear leader?” Is his intentions innocent or are we seeing the first of many examples of his deep belief that he is, in fact, the political messiah.
By allowing it without complaint, like many sheep will by taking the position “what harm can be done”, are you giving up too much ground?
Then there is the whole issue of legality. Can a government run educational institution promote, hold and then indoctrinate children in a closed environment? Where’s the fairness czar demanding equal time?
Once again, and HOTAIR has done it in the past, they are too eager to be too cute by half and end up missing the real issue.

This is the trouble with being inside a revolution. You can’t always get a good perspective on what the other side is doing.

Obama does not have the right, nor should be given the opportunity to be the “face” of their encouragement and the one they will strive to please. That is the job of their parents. As is the cultivation of the child’s political exposure.

Try to see the big picture.

archer52 on September 3, 2009 at 12:15 AM

I would agree with wastelandman. If you are going to have to take a day off to keep your child at home, show up at the school, you have every right to know what is being taught to your child. AnninCA, Funny you seem to be having a hard time dealing with ADULTS ‘alternative perspectives’ since you just told every parent that wishes their children not to go to school that they are not only tacky but ‘off on parenting’. But hey, that’s just my perspective.

4reds on September 3, 2009 at 12:20 AM

I wonder if you can get a FREE Shamwow or Slap Chop if your children watch the infomercial by Der Leader?

Dire Straits on September 3, 2009 at 12:21 AM

Tell that to these black students in D.C. whose educational values Obama doesn’t give a damn about…

Michelle on September 2, 2009 at 5:29 PM

That was certainly a bad move on Obama’s part but that is part of politics. He has to answer to the Teacher’s Union just as any Republican has to answer to their donors. It does not make it right but that is the way the system works.

Decider on September 3, 2009 at 12:23 AM

Apparently schools are showing the I Pledge to be a Servant to Obama video now… WTF?

All I can say is…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xdf4uYnMmkg&feature=fvw

James on September 3, 2009 at 12:23 AM

And then I want you to picture the discussion when your children are in their……oh let’s pick their late 30’s.

And let them retell this story.

How do you think you will look?

AnninCA on September 2, 2009 at 11:50 PM

As John McEnroe would say: “you CANNOT be serious!!!”. Like this is going to be some sort of historic speech, on par FDR’s “a Day that will live in infamy….” speech? (come to think of it, it will probably be a day that will live in infamy).
I’ll gladly pull my kid out. And hope my kids will look on my has a hero has they tell the story.

Barry’s mug will be on TV 24/7 for the next 3 1/2 years. Come 30 years from now, none of his speeches will be remembered because of his self imposed saturation.

Fed45 on September 3, 2009 at 12:27 AM

no way in hell would I have my kids in school that day. Its symbolic of my hatred of the washington nannystate indoctrination. and no i don’t think we need to wait and see because maybe it won’t be so bad. I don’t care if its brilliant! get this man’s face out of my life already!
i can’t take it everywhere i turn it’s like 1984 with the face staring at me from the tube telling me all the disinformation of the ruling party.

exceller on September 3, 2009 at 12:29 AM

I don’t see why it wouldn’t be acceptable for Republican Governors to do this sort of address to the students of their state every day to educate the children about Obama’s terrorist associations, etc.

The kids get communist indoctrination every day; this is our way to combat what goes on in the classroom. It’s so often the unintended consequences of liberals’ plans that show us the way.

Buddahpundit on September 3, 2009 at 12:41 AM

I am beginning to think that they are pushing hard, hard enough to engage the youth, only to withdraw and return at a later date.

We are still playing checkers while they play chess.

cntrlfrk on September 3, 2009 at 12:49 AM

I have three children. The biggest mistake I made as a father was allowing them to attend public schools. It is not that they lacked in academics. All three graduated from college with honors with advanced degrees in fields that give them access to the promise that is America. Yet, they all hate their country. They all voted (and I admit this with the heaviest of hearts) for Obama. They believe in global warming, the need for government health care, that Fidel Castro is a wonderful man and the Ronald Reagan was the root of all evil in the world.

If you have children in public school, get them out!

Rush should have a keep the kids home to listen to Rush day.

Voodoo on September 3, 2009 at 1:02 AM

It won’t be the speech that is the problem. It will most likely be some innoculous pap, boring for the majority of the kids. It is the before and after the speech where the teacher’s try to work on the kids with all these “activities” regarding the speech and his plans. It probably depends on how liberal your kid’s teacher and school happens to be, the level of stuff that occurs. They are union employees, after all.

di butler on September 3, 2009 at 1:30 AM

forgive the off topoic post but
Olympia snowejob needs to be stopped !
Call her office and say you are from Maine and represent a group of seniors against obamacare. It doesn’t matter if you don’t live in Maine. Find a zip code and town name off the net and call her now. Or say you are a moderate dem who voted for her, and you are against obamacare or any public option. We need to burn her local Maine offices as well as Washington. Call her now before she caves to the libs. Call her now!!!!

texaninfidel on September 3, 2009 at 1:39 AM

I’m making sure my daughter is in school on the 8th. I mean I’d hate to have to indoctrinate her at home, myself.
*eye roll*

beekiller on September 3, 2009 at 1:39 AM

It does not make it right but that is the way the system works fails.

Decider on September 3, 2009 at 12:23 AM

FIFY, you dissembling apologist for the lack of CHANGE.

Voodoo on September 3, 2009 at 1:02 AM

On September 9th, the Marxist propaganda will still be in the lousy books, and the Obot teachers will still be in the lousy schools.

TMK on September 3, 2009 at 1:46 AM

Jimbo3 on September 2, 2009 at 10:14 PM

Then keep your kid at home and watch it there. Why should everyone elses kid have to suffer through it because of people like you?

hawkdriver on September 3, 2009 at 1:53 AM

It’s not what he says that’s the problem, Allah, it’s the fact that he feels entitled to say it at all. And whatever he says, the kids are going to be taught that it’s all good and that they should be inspired.

The left is grooming them.

PattyJ on September 3, 2009 at 1:53 AM

Any conspiracy that Stormfront and Free Republic are actively promoting…I know is nonsense and not the side I want to be on.

beekiller on September 3, 2009 at 1:55 AM

Hey Jimbo,, what would you think if BO did a flip flop and all of a sudden spoke to the children of his conversion to Christ and he used this time to explain how he repented and now is walking with the Lord? What if he then started to preach to the school kids and asking them to repent and would you approve of this of your president?

garydt on September 3, 2009 at 1:59 AM

If my kid were still in school, Id keep her home and then we could read the transcript together later. Line by line with me telling her what a liar the Clown In Chief is.

hawkdriver on September 3, 2009 at 2:00 AM

Hey Jimbo,, what would you think if BO did a flip flop and all of a sudden spoke to the children of his conversion to Christ and he used this time to explain how he repented and now is walking with the Lord? What if he then started to preach to the school kids and asking them to repent and would you approve of this of your president?

garydt on September 3, 2009 at 1:59 AM

Hell no, are you kidding me with this bunch – not this blood thirsty crowd.

They hate him regardless of whatever and would hang ‘em high if given the opportunity.

They got the virus baby…they caught BDS from Markos what’s-his-name and his Nutroots/Far Left ilk and it mutated to ODS…and the only cure for the feva is finding more reasons to hate the POTUS.

Meanwhile NYC public schools do not go back until the 9th….

AprilOrit on September 3, 2009 at 2:20 AM

If my kid were still in school, Id keep her home and then we could read the transcript together later. Line by line with me telling her what a liar the Clown In Chief is.

hawkdriver on September 3, 2009 at 2:00 AM

My wife never did that with my daughter when Bush was President.(and she could have since she’s a liberal and wasn’t fond of him)She taught her to respect the President and Of The United States no matter what party. I’ve done the same since Obama was inaugurated and luckily she has no idea about the things that are being said about him. I think that makes us awesome parents and I think I’ll go thank her(by making out with her.) for not calling Bush a Nazi/War Criminal/Liar etc. in front of our daughter and inspiring me to be a responsible adult too.

beekiller on September 3, 2009 at 2:23 AM

FIGHT THE POWER!
As I said in Michelle Malkin’s thread, the call to keep children at home makes about as much sense to me as the call for town-hallers to shut up and stay home. You can’t FIGHT THE POWER behind your home front door with no one listening. A very teachable moment for parents to send their kids out with plenty of mental/verbal ammunition in my humble opinion.

Marcus on September 2, 2009 at 10:58 PM

I disagree and its not because you are wrong.

Its just that kids arent supposed to have to deal with garbage like we think is about to be foisted upon OUR children.

They are kids dammit!!!

So the other possibilty is that odummy is going to be of a proper level with grade school kids ( EQUAL ) ) ) and give the usual pap that one would expect at a visit to a SINGLE school.

The fact that this is going to be a national event is either scary or the dumbest move Ive seen from him as of late and there has been a bunch to sift through.

Sonosam on September 3, 2009 at 2:31 AM

Did I say odummy is an egomaniac?

Sonosam on September 3, 2009 at 2:32 AM

beekiller on September 3, 2009 at 2:23 AM

Good for you and your family!

As it is with my kid, who’s now 23, she could go through the transcript line by line by herself and figure out for herself what a lying assclown he is.

The left never had a bit of respect for George Bush who was a good man. I’ll give the left none for a man who is demonstrably evil.

hawkdriver on September 3, 2009 at 2:39 AM

AprilOrit on September 3, 2009 at 2:20 AM

Reading comprehension has clearly never been a left-wing skill, and clearly never will be.

TMK on September 3, 2009 at 2:48 AM

Good for you and your family!
hawkdriver on September 3, 2009 at 2:39 AM

Thanks. We do rock.

beekiller on September 3, 2009 at 2:49 AM

beekiller on September 3, 2009 at 2:23 AM

Yeah, I read your hateful posts against protestors and in support of Socialized Medicine. You’re about as conservative as Lenin.

TMK on September 3, 2009 at 3:00 AM

Thanks. We do rock.

beekiller on September 3, 2009 at 2:49 AM

I’ve read your other posts too. Perhaps I should have used the sarc/ tag.

hawkdriver on September 3, 2009 at 3:06 AM

Allahpundit, this is St. Barack of the Tin Ear we’re talking about. He could leave parents feeling defiled by his speech without even really trying.

Kralizec on September 3, 2009 at 3:09 AM

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beekiller on September 3, 2009 at 2:49 AM

But in the spirit of your “rocking” family and your wonderfully discrete liberal wife, I vow to never state in front of anyone’s children how I honestly and with all my heart believe that obama is the worst CommanderinChief that I’ve ever served under, lying about economy, 1st Amendment Foe except for liberals, 2nd Amendment Foe for all gun owners, pro-abortion, signing legislation in Illinois to let babies die because they were destined for an abortion procedure in the first place, Socialist/Marxist strong arming against ordinary citizens protesting while he tells his troops to “get in their faces”, supported by a billionaire foreigner who only thinks liberals should be rich, lying, election stealing sack of dog feces.

It now obama that lies and soldiers die.

hawkdriver on September 3, 2009 at 3:20 AM

“It’s” now…

hawkdriver on September 3, 2009 at 3:21 AM

When I read this post by Allahpundit, my first reaction was,

“hmm…this guy is really going off the deep end himself. Talking as if the propaganda consisted of “only” a few minutes of TV. This guy doesn’t get the One-Two-Punch of teachers drilling the cr*p into kiddies’ minds after Dear Leader Has Spoken for the rest of the day, and thereafter.
Just how blinded has this guy become?!

How blind indeed.

Or just has no kids yet himself to comprehend?

Lockstein13 on September 3, 2009 at 3:42 AM

If you are one of the parents going to observe, could you please ask a question to rile-up the Obotomized teachers?

“Obama said doing well in school is important. What were his grades like?”

TMK on September 3, 2009 at 4:16 AM

TMK, thanks…luckily, I’d just finished my coffee…!

Lockstein13 on September 3, 2009 at 4:39 AM

Hey – you parents with k-6 kids – you really should go to the school on 9/8, get a visitor pass to your kid’s classroom, and document what the teachers do with this event. There are BOUND to be endless examples of indoctrination, browbeating and even intimidation to get students to offer “correct” responses to the DOE-supplied curriculum. Conceal a Flip cam, voice recorder, whatever – and ACT like a lib, all “excited” about the event. Libs are stupid, and will reveal everything. Your digital documentation could provide all we need to start putting an end to this.

I did this at a K-6 school when my kids were were in 2nd&4th grades, on another matter. Let’s just say my efforts really paid off and woke a lot of people up.

Above all, INNOCULATE your kids against liberalism – every day, bring up “global warming”, all the green crap or any other liberal meme, and make your kids understand it’s all bullsh!t, and let them know there’s a deliberate effort by teachers to indoctrinate them. Tell them what to look for and listen for, and then repeat it to you when they get home, so you can teach them to spot the lies. You’ll be SHOCKED at how much crap they are bombarded with in every school subject, but use this to teach them. I did this every day with my boys, ad nauseum till I got the “eyerolls” from them, but they are now both staunch conservative voters in their early 20’s.

Fishoutofwater on September 3, 2009 at 4:44 AM

I am a teacher who is a bit unique in that I am certified grades 1-12 in both regular and special education. My secondary certification included history, economics and government. I have taught all but two grades in my career. When I taught my histories, economics and government classes I had an obligation to keep my opinions to myself and my lesson neutral, while maintaining an atmosphere that encouraged and supported discussions of opposing views. I am just thankful that I do not teach economics or government now. I have no idea how I would justify the text with the situation today.
I have read over the “Teaching Moment” lesson plans for k-6 and 7-12. I can tell you that whoever wrote them was good at writing grants and curriculums, but has a lack of classroom experience. They were written to appear to administrators as a good and relevant lesson to go along with the president’s speech, with just enough of a valid lesson plan to hide the real partisan agenda. I can tell you from experience in dealing with administrators that they buy into things that sound or look good without a clue of what they have done or how it works. That observation and yearly prediction has never failed me in 26 years of teaching.
These lesson plans are clearly intent on conveying Obama’s views and socialist objectives onto our children. The younger grades are of the most concern. As an elementary teacher I well understood that most of my students took what I told them as literal fact. More than once I reigned in a noncompliant child with telling them that I was not their mother, I was their teacher. My own daughter, who has grown up to be an elementary teacher herself, would insist that the way her teacher told her to do something was the only right way to do it. I also was very aware that the values I instilled in them while I had them, lasted long after the memory was gone. A previous comment on the quotes of Stalin and Hitler rings clear where young children are concerned.
When I taught histories, government and economics at the high school level I had an obligation to my students to remain neutral in my political opinions and maintain a classroom that allowed free expression and respect of others opinions. School in general is to be places of a neutral atmosphere so that all students can attend without prejudice. That is why there is an exception to the first amendment regarding schools.
The middle and high school lesson allows for more dialog, but based only on the Obama speech, this sets the dialog to favor him and his polices. It would be hard to say which way the individual dialogs would go, but the potential for the creation of a disrupted classroom environment that will extend beyond the lesson plan is a concern. This becomes a greater problem if the teacher is on the liberal socialist side of the argument. The harm that can be done increases as the age of the student decreases.
What I find unsettling in both plans is the creation of visuals that are to be place up on the walls or displayed in other ways in the classrooms. In the younger grades that would reinforce such notions as the president Obama knows what needs to be done and that they should listen to their president and government leaders. In the upper grades, this creates a politically biased classroom that is negative towards students that hold conservative views or do not agree with socialism, even if their class or their teacher has nothing to do with what is on the wall.
This speech and lesson plan also has an unintended consequence, though one Obama will enjoy. Liberal teachers will now have a license to express their opinions and support of Obama, liberalism and socialist policies in their classroom through the extended lessons and visuals that otherwise might not be approved of by their administrator.

Franklyn on September 3, 2009 at 5:19 AM

Any parent with self respect must not allow the child to attend school that day.

Birdseye on September 3, 2009 at 5:21 AM

I’m glad my kids are well past grade school age. I’d be getting a call from the principal stating they debated the TV during his speech.

Jeff from WI on September 3, 2009 at 5:32 AM

“What I find unsettling in both plans is the creation of visuals that are to be place up on the walls or displayed in other ways in the classrooms.

In the younger grades that would reinforce such notions as the president Obama knows what needs to be done and that they should listen to their president and government leaders.

In the upper grades, this creates a politically biased classroom that is negative towards students that hold conservative views or do not agree with socialism, even if their class or their teacher has nothing to do with what is on the wall.

This speech and lesson plan also has an unintended consequence, though one Obama will enjoy. Liberal teachers will now have a license to express their opinions and support of Obama, liberalism and socialist policies in their classroom through the extended lessons and visuals that otherwise might not be approved of by their administrator.”

Franklyn on September 3, 2009 at 5:19 AM

EXACTLY.

Drip, drip, drip.
Nothing like a little “Chinese Water Torture” for the kids.

Lockstein13 on September 3, 2009 at 6:06 AM

I want to be there when the speech is televised, and if my grandchild’s school decides not to air it, I will watch it at home on C-SPAN. I want to know how many times he says “I“. Also, the One obviously doesn’t know children. 20 minutes is WAY too long for a speech to young children. I guarantee their little eyes will glass over before the 5th minute, and they will be fidgeting by the 6th. I pity the younger teachers if their kids have to sit through this. (PS–I am highly suspicious of my grandson’s 5th grade teacher, since at the open house, there were no textbooks available to look over–I will have to go to school early so I can see what he is being taught.)

lovingmyUSA on September 3, 2009 at 6:08 AM

What can you do?

Call and email you school district, more than once if you can. Do not expect and answer because you will not be the only one. This is proving to get the attention of school districts.

School districts get paid for every student that is in attendance that day. A large number of parents keeping thier kid home on that day will cost them thousands of dollars.

Many school districts have compromised with a link on the district web page for the parents who want their child to particpate at home.

Planning to go to the classroom and glare at the teacher might be an option, but it maybe a bit difficult now days to do it. I do not know about other districts but in mine, you have to have a background check to prove you have no crimial or pedophile background, before you would be allowed into a classroom or in the school without an escort, if you could get in.

That is a bit sad because before it became an issue I had the parents of students sit in my classroom to watch what their student was doing. Usually resulted in an improvement to the problem.

Franklyn on September 3, 2009 at 6:14 AM

“Give me four years to teach the children and the seed I have sown will never be uprooted.” ~ Vladimir Lenin

jjrakman on September 2, 2009 at 11:26 PM

Comrade would you like to buy my AK-47 or my sister?

//Russian 1991

sven10077 on September 3, 2009 at 6:22 AM

Franklyn on September 3, 2009 at 5:19 AM

You are nicer than I am. Unintended consequences, my Aunt Agnes.

Cindy Munford on September 3, 2009 at 6:29 AM

You are nicer than I am. Unintended consequences, my Aunt Agnes.

Cindy Munford on September 3, 2009 at 6:29 AM

I’m amused that Ogabe fans and others are willing to gap the Presidente ‘plausible deniability’ they wouldn’t the CIA….

sven10077 on September 3, 2009 at 6:39 AM

sven10077 on September 3, 2009 at 6:39 AM

Excellent point. What kind of world do we live in when a teleprompter addicted empty suit is idolized but people who put their lives on the line for their country are judged criminals by innuendo?

Cindy Munford on September 3, 2009 at 6:54 AM

So basically Obama and the late Micheal Jackson perform in front of kids to influence their decision making.

Jeff from WI on September 3, 2009 at 7:06 AM

This is one reason why public schools should be shut down.

Libertarian Joseph on September 3, 2009 at 7:27 AM

There are BOUND to be endless examples of indoctrination, browbeating and even intimidation to get students to offer “correct” responses to the DOE-supplied curriculum. Conceal a Flip cam, voice recorder, whatever – and ACT like a lib, all “excited” about the event. Libs are stupid, and will reveal everything. Your digital documentation could provide all we need to start putting an end to this.

I did this at a K-6 school when my kids were were in 2nd&4th grades, on another matter. Let’s just say my efforts really paid off and woke a lot of people up.

Fishoutofwater on September 3, 2009 at 4:44 AM

It’s a terrible idea to secretly film teachers and kids. There are laws about student privacy, fish. If you inadvertently filmed even ONE student who had a privacy file–that is, the student is NEVER to be pictured, filmed or represented in media–you could be in deep doodoo. Posting a video on YouTube could be asking for trouble.

Film ME all you want. I have nothing to hide, though I must say you are not fostering a friendly relationship with your children’s teachers. Perhaps you dislike teachers so much you don’t care. You don’t have to “bow” to us and you’re welcome to be as combative as you like, but you seem bent on “guilty until proven innocent”…and I bet your bar for “innocence” is high indeed. You usually find what you look for, so I wonder about the experience your sons are having in school.

Grace_is_sufficient on September 3, 2009 at 7:45 AM

sven10077 on September 3, 2009 at 6:39 AM
Excellent point. What kind of world do we live in when a teleprompter addicted empty suit is idolized but people who put their lives on the line for their country are judged criminals by innuendo?

Cindy Munford on September 3, 2009 at 6:54 AM

++1000 to both of you! (Or should I say A++?)

lovingmyUSA on September 3, 2009 at 7:48 AM

Michelle is on FOX right now talking about this subject!

lovingmyUSA on September 3, 2009 at 7:50 AM

According to Michelle, maybe we should visit the classrooms for a few days to see what the teacher follow-up is….hmmmm.

lovingmyUSA on September 3, 2009 at 7:51 AM

This is a ploy . . . the true purpose is to influence the parents through the perceived enlightenment of their children. This is the same technique advertising firms use to sell their wares by energizing youngsters who in turn can influence their parents. Get Obama out of the classroom.

rplat on September 3, 2009 at 7:53 AM

According to Michelle, maybe we should visit the classrooms for a few days to see what the teacher follow-up is….hmmmm.

lovingmyUSA on September 3, 2009 at 7:51 AM

I completely agree with Michelle on this: parents should ALWAYS feel welcome to visit. Not every day in my class is a stunning work of teaching genius: some days are what I call “workhorse” days…lessons that aren’t splashy but are necessary. Still, parents are welcome.

BTW…I’m NOT at my desk, posting from school. :) We start Sept 8th. I’m going in later to put the finishing touches on my classroom.

Grace_is_sufficient on September 3, 2009 at 8:00 AM

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