Comments on: Report: Obama and Snowe working on a “trigger” for the public option?

By: Hot Air » Blog Archive » Great news: White House working on its own health-care bill now

Fri, 04 Sep 2009 21:56:16 +0000

[...] that lacks a public option so he’s going to promise them one down the road, whether via the “trigger option,” some alternative plan, or more treacherously, the simple legislative inertia towards expansion once [...]

By: Chandler's Watch

Chandler's Watch — Fri, 04 Sep 2009 10:54:29 +0000

Report: Obama and Snowe Working On A “trigger” For The Public Option?…

Senior White House officials, in conversations with reporters today, are floating the idea that President Obama is secretly negotiating with Sen. Olympia Snowe over a health care compromise that would phase in a government-funded health care alternativ…

By: malclave

malclave — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 20:40:09 +0000

You’ll need 60 votes in the Senate to override Obama’s veto of any attempted repeal. Whatever gets passed now is here to stay for some time.

james23 on September 3, 2009 at 8:47 AM

67 (a veto requires a 2/3 majority to override).

By: » Democrats try to slip in public option using a trigger!!!

» Democrats try to slip in public option using a trigger!!! — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 20:32:36 +0000

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By: veteranoutrage

veteranoutrage — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 20:27:02 +0000

This is why i will NOT obey anything that obama or the democrats pass

I dont care now..

For they are all TRAITORS
They all are scumbags
and even after all of the people said HELL NO
the DEMOCRAPS..
still are trying to force us all onto obama care..

it is time to revolt now..
because if you dont..
you wont have any rights left to do so..
I guarantee you obama and the democats will
BETRAY all of the USA…

They cannot help it for they are stalinists in their hearts..

http://www.veteranoutrage.com

By: angryed

angryed — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 17:24:22 +0000

God I hate this woman.

By: Patterico’s Pontifications » ObamaCare: Public option + trigger = exit strategy?

Thu, 03 Sep 2009 16:56:53 +0000

[...] insurance companies fail to meet quality and cost benchmarks over a certain period of the time. Allahpundit scores this as an “Uh-oh,” but the devil is in the [...]

By: The Greenroom » Forum Archive » ObamaCare: Public option + trigger = exit strategy?

Thu, 03 Sep 2009 16:25:31 +0000

[...] insurance companies fail to meet quality and cost benchmarks over a certain period of the time. Allahpundit scores this as an “Uh-oh,” but the devil is in the [...]

By: Pine Tree Politics » White House Pressing Snowe for Public Option “Trigger”

Thu, 03 Sep 2009 15:48:18 +0000

[...] this point there is no actual proposal on the table, but the right is already springing into action to push back on this [...]

By: On Top Of Mount Olympia, All Covered With Snowe « Around The Sphere

On Top Of Mount Olympia, All Covered With Snowe « Around The Sphere — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 14:37:12 +0000

[...] Allah Pundit: This is the flip side of Clyburn’s plan in the House to run a government program on a trial basis in a few states, to be followed by national implementation in 2013 if it’s successful. There, the burden’s on the feds to perform; in Snowe’s version, the burden’s on insurance companies to meet some arbitrary federal benchmark. You can see why that would appeal to Democrats looking for a way to get a foothold for the public option but why it would appeal to a self-professed fiscal conservative like Snowe, knowing how grievously a public option could end up distorting the market, is beyond me. Maybe the idea is to marry her plan and Clyburn’s and have both the private and public sides of the program prove that they’re viable? [...]

By: bluegrass

bluegrass — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 14:12:45 +0000

Instead of a check start returning those prepaid postage envelopes to the RNC with a note only that states no more money until you grow a set and get rid of these RINO whores.

By: bluegrass

bluegrass — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 14:10:00 +0000

you’re wasting your time on this lunitic

the b*tch gets voted in every time

what needs to be done here is elect folks that will clsoed all those bases in Maine and isolate them like Oramadan does now to parts of the country.

I would respect her if she just switched parties

She is sickening

By: katiejane

katiejane — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 13:56:17 +0000

It always amazes me that anyone can pretend that the "cover" of one or two known liberal Republicans constitutes bipartianship

By: Vashta.Nerada

Vashta.Nerada — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 13:48:35 +0000

Once again, I fail to see how any member of congress can in good conscience vote for a bill they know will become what they say they won’t vote for. Abdicating responsibility by saying the bill changed after the initial vote won’t fly anymore.

By: FireBlogger

FireBlogger — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 13:20:44 +0000

Snowe = Specter

Neither have a clue.

By: Gang-of-One

Gang-of-One — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 13:11:28 +0000

Ambulance chasers should be drawn and quartered, tarred and feathered, hell, maybe we should even bring back the Spanish inquisition!!!
/end sarc
viviliberoomuori on September 2, 2009

I would prefer a righty version of the French Revolution/sarc ( sorta…kinda)

By: orlandocajun

orlandocajun — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 13:01:37 +0000

That’s how Obama will get bipartisanship into the discussion. He’ll work with a liberal Republican. He may as well add in Susan Collins since Specter has already officially designated himself a liberal.

By: james23

james23 — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 12:47:00 +0000

Without question, some group of pathetic Whig idiots–who have gotten themselves elected and reelected on your dime–is going to emerge to snatch an Obama victory from the jaws of defeat. Snowe, Collins, McCain, Graham, and on and on and on. We’ve seen it so many time before. The Whigs have to be routed in 2010.

Even if this bunch manages to pass something/anything like what they have been looking at, hr 3200, that bill will either fail to pass constitutional tests or it will be removed in 2011 BEFORE it can do much of anything.

Remember, once the opposition gets control in the house, they control the purse strings. Which is why the Dems still need bi-partisan support.

Freddy on September 3, 2009 at 2:48 AM

You’ll need 60 votes in the Senate to override Obama’s veto of any attempted repeal. Whatever gets passed now is here to stay for some time.

By: ObamaCare v. 3.0 « Beltway Snark

ObamaCare v. 3.0 « Beltway Snark — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 12:22:56 +0000

[...] v. 3.0 Jump to Comments This time with bipartisan support Olympia Snowe! Senior White House officials, in conversations with reporters today, are floating the idea that [...]

By: Lehosh

Lehosh — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 11:52:20 +0000

Let me go out on a limb here…

The Trigger: insurance companies have to provide universal coverage for free or the government takes over.

Possible secondary Trigger: insurance companies have to find the One Ring and toss it into the fires of Mount Doom, or the government takes them over.

By: Terrye

Terrye — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 11:21:24 +0000

It might be worth a phone call to her office to say cut that out.

By: herself

herself — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 07:58:11 +0000

With the EXTREME conflict of interest implicit in the concept of a trigger with the people who stand to gain the most (the government) setting the trigger criteria this should be treated as a non-starter by any sane non-Communist in the nation.

I am insulted at the implication I am dumb enough to fall for such a piece of crap in the face of the 1400 pages of crap they have already tried to bulldoze through.

{+_+}

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By: Freddy

Freddy — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 06:48:12 +0000

This entire healthcare bill is dead. Even if this bunch manages to pass something/anything like what they have been looking at, hr 3200, that bill will either fail to pass constitutional tests or it will be removed in 2011 BEFORE it can do much of anything.

Remember, once the opposition gets control in the house, they control the purse strings. Which is why the Dems still need bi-partisan support.

As I see it, Obama has one nice way out of this mess. What he needs to do is to drop all of this health care plan and tell both houses of congress to put together a package consisting of:

1) Education incentives for new medical personel. Every plan has had the same problem, where do you get the doctors?

2) Regulatory changes to allow healthcare insurers to cross some state lines. Regional companies should allow for much new competition without allowing any of them to become ‘too big to fail’.

3) Some basic changes to w2 reporting for health care insurance. Let the people see all of the ‘benefits’ they are getting from their employers potentially allowing individuals to determine which provider they like and not necessairily having that decision tied to their employer. Notice I say ‘reporting’. No new taxes.

Toss in a few adjustments like ‘negotiating tax credits in some situations’ and he can have a bill that costs very little yet could still impact overall healthcare costs for all.

I could see Obama declaring the bill I just described as meeting his campaign promise to improve health care costs and insure more people.

And no, I do not think what the Dems will do next will look anything like this.

By: Lourdes

Lourdes — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 05:56:30 +0000

To repeat this, I am concerned as to WHY and HOW it is that Rahm Emanuel and Senator Snowe are “conducting” their “daily intelligence exchanges” or visits daily.

This truly concerns me. Emanuel isn’t an elected official, Snowe IS an elected official, to the Senate. Emanuel’s a well identified radical (if not fringing on criminal in some cases as yet unresolved — Blagojovich, specifically, pay-to-play Illinois corruption, coercion via implied death threats to opponents and more) and Snowe’s commiserating wiht him daily? Or even at all?

Am I the only person bothered by this?