Report: Obama and Snowe working on a “trigger” for the public option?
posted at 7:43 pm on September 2, 2009 by Allahpundit
I knew that Politico story was too good to be true. The face of bipartisanship:
Senior White House officials, in conversations with reporters today, are floating the idea that President Obama is secretly negotiating with Sen. Olympia Snowe over a health care compromise that would phase in a government-funded health care alternative if private insurance companies fail to meet quality and cost benchmarks over a certain period of the time. The public discussion of the Snowe “compromise” is meant to test the reaction of House Democrats, who will pass a bill that includes an immediate public option added to a new health insurance exchange. The White House hopes that, having voted for a public option, House Dems would accept a “trigger” as part of a conference committee compromise rather than putting the kibosh on the entire health care reform project. In some ways, this strategy is old, and in some ways it’s new. For months, White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel has been pushing the idea of a “trigger” internally, and he and Snowe regularly trade legislative and political intelligence.
This is the flip side of Clyburn’s plan in the House to run a government program on a trial basis in a few states, to be followed by national implementation in 2013 if it’s successful. There, the burden’s on the feds to perform; in Snowe’s version, the burden’s on insurance companies to meet some arbitrary federal benchmark. You can see why that would appeal to Democrats looking for a way to get a foothold for the public option but why it would appeal to a self-professed fiscal conservative like Snowe, knowing how grievously a public option could end up distorting the market, is beyond me. Maybe the idea is to marry her plan and Clyburn’s and have both the private and public sides of the program prove that they’re viable?
As for The One’s sudden turnaround on whether a public option will be in the bill, it’s really not so sudden. I explained on Monday night why I thought pushing for it was his best available move politically, but if he failed to see that before, House progressives are making sure he sees it today:
Jacob Hacker, a health policy expert who can be called the godfather of the public option, says, “The White House…has to be told in no uncertain terms that dropping the public plan is stupid and premature.”
The Politico piece did not quote by name President Barack Obama or his senior advisers saying they were dumping the public option from their must-include list. So it’s possible this was a trial balloon that could burst. But even though Obama had already declined to vow he would go to the mat for a public option, the story did rile up progressives on and off Capitol Hill.
“Without a public option, this bill will do a lot of nice things but only by throwing a couple hundred billion dollars at insurance companies,” says Nadler, adding that a public option is necessary to hold down the cost of health insurance. “What is the point of passing a bill that mandates people to buy insurance that is going to be unaffordable?” he says…
Though a public option can likely make it through the House without much assistance from Obama, Nadler notes points out that no such bill could succeed in the Senate absent pressure from Obama. If Obama doesn’t make an effort, Nadler says, “I believe it will cause a very big split” in the Democratic Party.
I guess the deal with Snowe is his “effort.” Exit question: Is the trigger enough to win over the conservative Democrats holding out in the Senate too or is this geared directly at earning Snowe’s vote to provide the tiniest possible fig leaf of bipartisanship?










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This woman is the ugliest man I’ve ever seen.
pcpower1 on September 2, 2009 at 7:45 PM
Snowe is just a female version of Snarlin Arlen.
No…everybody knows Snowe is no Republican by now…no cover.
AUINSC on September 2, 2009 at 7:46 PM
If true, not one cent to the GOP Senate reelection fund until this whore is drummed out of the GOP.
highhopes on September 2, 2009 at 7:46 PM
It’s time for Snowe to get a STRONG message from the GOP, and every American against this.
portlandon on September 2, 2009 at 7:47 PM
There wasn’t cover for Crapulus and Snowe can’t provide it now.
cadams on September 2, 2009 at 7:48 PM
I’d be willing to be that the “trigger” is just a date, not a circumstance.
myrenovations on September 2, 2009 at 7:48 PM
Let’s pull the trigger now.
faraway on September 2, 2009 at 7:48 PM
Why doesn’t Snowe-Job just follow her good friend Arlen “Scottish Law” Specter into the Party of the Rat?
steveegg on September 2, 2009 at 7:50 PM
As I was in the crowd at the Tea Party Express stop in El Paso this morning, the speaker said he had heard in the news that Obama was dropping the public option. The lady standing next to me (whose father served in WWI- yes, the First World War) said, “Liar, liar pants on fire!”
The woman has spunk, and I love spunk.
cibolo on September 2, 2009 at 7:50 PM
It doesn’t matter if the reps like it or not. If the constituents are angry and suspicious of anything that comes out on this issue, and they are, the reps know the consequences of voting for any obamacare bill of any construct.
If anything gets signed, there will be hell to pay the likes of which this country has never seen.
keep the change on September 2, 2009 at 7:50 PM
Yes, and yes.
steveegg on September 2, 2009 at 7:50 PM
Don’t say that out loud in England.
keep the change on September 2, 2009 at 7:51 PM
So if the insurance companies can’t get enough doctors to meet the “access to care” requirements what makes them think the government will?
The rate limiting step here is the number of medical providers (MD/PA/etc) both primary care and specialists… not the insurance companies. but I guess they know that, which is why they wrote it that way.
BadBrad on September 2, 2009 at 7:51 PM
That old bat needs to go back to her cave and chill. This is a dandy reason for term limits!
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letget on September 2, 2009 at 7:51 PM
Democrats don’t want bipartisanship. They want a co conspirator.
So private insurance has to meet a certain threshold? Who sets that threshold? The gov’t. Naturally. Who can set it sooo high nobody could reach it, thus setting off the trigger.
kurtzz3 on September 2, 2009 at 7:51 PM
OT
Congressman Posey (R-Fl) is holding a healthcare townhall this evening in his district. I could not even get a parking spot. Capacity in the auditorium is 2,000 plus 500 spillover outside the auditorium.
A few protesters in favor of ObamaCare, but the crowd is overwhelmingly against according to local news that has staked out the townhall since earlier this afternoon.
This crowd of better than 2,000 came out despite the fact it has been a steady to hard rain much of the afternoon and during the townhall.
Americans are speaking out and our voices and message is clearer and louder than the over-exposed charlatan that will address congress next week.
jdflorida on September 2, 2009 at 7:52 PM
I think Snowe is as ugly on the inside as she is on the outside.
LASue on September 2, 2009 at 7:52 PM
Think Progress had an article today titled “The Gettable Republican”. Snowe was a part of the story. Coincidence?
ICBM on September 2, 2009 at 7:52 PM
Hopefully the ‘trigger’ is inching closer and closer to her head…
MyImamToldMeToDoIt on September 2, 2009 at 7:52 PM
I don’t have a problem with setting a “trigger” event that would result in government-run healthcare in the U.S.
I propose “when Hell freezes over”.
malclave on September 2, 2009 at 7:53 PM
The GOP is pathetic! Steele? What the heck is he doing? Snowe should leave the GOP. Enough of this.
cubachi on September 2, 2009 at 7:53 PM
Then you’ve never seen her colleague from Maine.
Mark1971 on September 2, 2009 at 7:53 PM
why bother building a fleet of battleships when a few submarines will do the trick?
Asher on September 2, 2009 at 7:53 PM
why bother building a fleet of battleships when a few submarines will do the trick?
Asher on September 2, 2009 at 7:53 PM
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Or even one little dingy.
ICBM on September 2, 2009 at 7:54 PM
Maine, for the love of God, do something with this hag.
Fletch54 on September 2, 2009 at 7:55 PM
With the current approval rating of Congress, were I Harry or Nancy, I don’t think I’d be mentioning the word “trigger” in any context.
GarandFan on September 2, 2009 at 7:55 PM
Keep the change-
I don’t know what it means in England, I was thinking of the Mary Tyler Moore show (where Lou Grant hates spunk).
cibolo on September 2, 2009 at 7:55 PM
Wanna make a bet the legislation will include all kinds of regulations that will cause the insurance companies to miss the mark?
RedRedRice on September 2, 2009 at 7:56 PM
Uh..hello.
We already have a trial program, a matter of three of them, Miane, Massachusetts and Hawaii. All three utter failures resulting, as per usual with the libs, opposite effects than what was intended. And par for the course, running gazillions over budget and hurdling at mach 3 towards the wall of inevitable bankruptcy!
Next.
Archimedes on September 2, 2009 at 7:56 PM
Right. Benchmarks set by a “committee” that would require insurance providers to have costs as low as a massively funded government program. A program, by the way, that in spite of it’s massive funding is pitched as lowering costs.
Their goal is public option. They may do an end run, throw the long pass, or go straight up the middle – it’s still going to remain their goal.
How they get there, they don’t care.
BacaDog on September 2, 2009 at 7:57 PM
IF SHE WALKS LIKE, ACTS LIKE, AND VOTES LIKE A DEMOCRAT, THEN SHE MUST BE A RAT!
Wherever, or however this debacle ends, Senator Oylmpia Snowe will be dogged and hounded for her present, and past congressional liberalism. In my book, the RNC must dump her.
byteshredder on September 2, 2009 at 7:57 PM
I hope this is not true. It is the worst of all worlds on healthcare at this point. Better that the Dems eat this bill and lose now or pass this bill and lose in 2010. I thought it might be McCain who sells us all out, but Olympia Snowe would be the logical chink in the armor. This will hurt Republicans and the Country.
Christian Conservative on September 2, 2009 at 7:57 PM
Of course those “triggers” will be composed of legalese which is so arcane that the nation’s best legal scholars would have trouble understanding it, but whose ultimate meaning will be interpreted by Ogabe and the ‘rats to make sure that private insurance will never be able to meet them.
What do these pukes not understand about the word “NO”?
Bishop on September 2, 2009 at 7:57 PM
Those sneaky little rats are at it again.
SoulGlo on September 2, 2009 at 7:58 PM
Oh, and I guess if she signs on, it’s bipartisan, right?
will no one rid me of this troublesome priest?
Asher on September 2, 2009 at 7:59 PM
Maine and Minnesota. What’s wrong with you people?
faraway on September 2, 2009 at 7:59 PM
Don’t a few States already have a government healthcare disaster that could be studied?
tarpon on September 2, 2009 at 7:59 PM
McCain’s up for re-election next year, so he’s pretending to be a Republican for the time being, instead of the usual “maverick.”
Wethal on September 2, 2009 at 8:00 PM
We try. Lord knows we try. The only consolation we take from her being in office is that she kept an even more rabid-dog leftist from taking that seat. hard to imagine, i know, but it’s true.
I have to stay here until next summer. After that, it’s Buh-Bye Maine! and Heloooo Texas!
AW1 Tim on September 2, 2009 at 8:00 PM
If the RNC does not lay the LAW down to this women and also big nose Collins they are finish as a party.This Rino has been a trouble maker for to DAMN long.Who needs this kind of crap.No wonder they call the Reps the stupid party.
thmcbb on September 2, 2009 at 8:00 PM
if it’s successful.
===========================
What do you mean,if its successful!
This sounds like another Liberal
experiment on the dime of American
taxpayers!!
canopfor on September 2, 2009 at 8:01 PM
Snowe needs to be gone. Right after Osama Obama is booted out of office.
Our government — the Child-President and Congress — is out of control. Is there no one with a shred of authority who can see the destruction they are causing?
MrScribbler on September 2, 2009 at 8:01 PM
Snowe wants to add another ream of pages to the bill so she can get her name on it.
fourdeucer on September 2, 2009 at 8:02 PM
I wish she’d just switch parties already and get it over with. I’m tired of her posing as a Republican.
CP on September 2, 2009 at 8:02 PM
What, exactly, is wrong with Olympia Snowe?
Did she get lost on her way to the Democratic Party or is she just confused about what the Party registration/affiliation form is?
People get elected by contributors, not necessarily by voters in their districts. I think Snowe is likely one of those people who is elected not by voters in her district but by many unnamed donors.
Lourdes on September 2, 2009 at 8:04 PM
How about just in states that want it? It’s called Federalism. It’s called the US Constitution. How sad it is that so many Americans are unfamiliar.
toliver on September 2, 2009 at 8:05 PM
She’ll do it for The Swimmer.
JammieWearingFool on September 2, 2009 at 8:05 PM
These chumps (Snow, McCain, Graham, Collins, Hatch, and many more) need their marching orders from the GOP, NOW!!!!!
mobydutch on September 2, 2009 at 8:05 PM
Is it me or doesn’t snowe look like the mother of Darth Vadar.lol. She will betray the party. hold her miserable liberal ass to the fire line if she causes trouble.
Over n out
God Bless our Troops
hawkman on September 2, 2009 at 8:05 PM
Did anyone catch the boast by McCain in his first townhall production, how it was that he’d just returned from a trip with Snowe, Graham, Lieberman and…
Essentially, McCain boasted about his recent trip with the four other RINOs, to Libya or someplace.
Lourdes on September 2, 2009 at 8:06 PM
I guess the deal with Snowe is his “effort.” Exit question: Is the trigger enough to win over the conservative Democrats holding out in the Senate too or is this geared directly at earning Snowe’s vote to provide the tiniest possible fig leaf of bipartisanship?
seesalrun on September 2, 2009 at 8:06 PM
If Snowe, Collins or Specter get re-elected under either party, I’ll scream out loud.
Same goes true for Harry Reid and Jack Murtha. I think Maine, Nevada and Pennsylvania should be avoided until those idiot politicians are gone.
Oink on September 2, 2009 at 8:06 PM
Snowe needs to be exiled to Cuba. She can hang with the rest of her comrades and stop trying to kill the US. What a moron. Can the GOP caucus please throw her sorry a$$ out? She is less than worthless. She is an enemy of civilization.
progressoverpeace on September 2, 2009 at 8:06 PM
Pretty sure he didn’t say “Libya” but it was to somewhere equally tumultuous overseas to where the RINOs made their trek.
Lourdes on September 2, 2009 at 8:06 PM
This is totally unacceptable. Keep the government out of my business.
rjoco1 on September 2, 2009 at 8:07 PM
She saw what happened to Arlen. Loss of seniority (except to Franken). Just one of 60.
When you stay in your party and do the “maverick” act, you’re constantly courted. They can never count on your next vote, so you must be wooed all over again each time. The perpetual stroking of the ego, wining and dining, asking what concessions they could make to please you…Not to mention the MSM fawning all over you.
Give up this to be just one of the crowd?
Wethal on September 2, 2009 at 8:08 PM
Yes, I don’t understand how it is the GOP can continue to maintain affiliation with this RINO element among the GOP. It makes the party look entirely meaningless if not outright ridiculous on many controversial issues.
Lourdes on September 2, 2009 at 8:08 PM
Time to go honey…
foxone on September 2, 2009 at 8:09 PM
Why isn’t there another trigger in case the public option fails? Oh, that’s right, they don’t give a shit.
karlant on September 2, 2009 at 8:09 PM
Oregon, Maine, Massachusetts, and Tennesee, perhaps?
Wethal on September 2, 2009 at 8:09 PM
Hahaha I think Helen Thomas gives him a run for the his money.
jawkneemusic on September 2, 2009 at 8:10 PM
There are ‘other’ triggers…
foxone on September 2, 2009 at 8:10 PM
Welcome home.
Fletch54 on September 2, 2009 at 8:10 PM
This one and the other turd senator from Maine need to go the way of Lincoln Chafee.
elduende on September 2, 2009 at 8:10 PM
Why the HELL doesn’t Steele throw her OUT of the Party. She’s a Democrat anyhow, make it official!
God I hate Mass. & Maine
Jeff from WI on September 2, 2009 at 8:10 PM
Well, that explains it, then.
Lourdes on September 2, 2009 at 8:11 PM
Flood her offices…bigger than Amnesty!
HornetSting on September 2, 2009 at 8:11 PM
Obama: Hey I know let’s reword the public option with some fancy words and place
it elsewhere and we can still keep the public option.
Snowe: Ok because these people are so stupid they won’t know what we’re doing HA
HA HA LOL!
Trix are for kids!
xler8bmw on September 2, 2009 at 8:12 PM
Witch…!
Seven Percent Solution on September 2, 2009 at 8:12 PM
Aren’t there a lot of seniors in Maine? Why aren’t they sharing their thoughts with Ms. Cantbetrusted Snowe?
anniekc on September 2, 2009 at 8:13 PM
+10
redslippers on September 2, 2009 at 8:14 PM
I guess the GOP has a rule where someone has to stab the GOP in the back 2000 times. Snowe has only reached 1632, so far. The fact that Snowe’s supported bills that the base is vehemently opposed to has even given her bonus points with the GOP elite, the Vichy Right, so they only count her as having stabbed the GOP in the back 321 times. The Vichy Right almost love Snowe for the damage she causes.
progressoverpeace on September 2, 2009 at 8:14 PM
Rest up – If you need new glasses, contacts or eye exam – please do it quickly as I’m sure we’re not going to be given much time to read this one……………
http://speakmymindblog.com/2009/09/02/public-option-trigger/
sherryande on September 2, 2009 at 8:14 PM
Can someone please turn off Snowe’s vibrator before she ruins this country……………….
Cinday Blackburn on September 2, 2009 at 8:14 PM
tr=n?
redrock on September 2, 2009 at 8:15 PM
This is not going to work either. It is a leftist trick. If they want an explosion in this country they will persist in this.
elduende on September 2, 2009 at 8:15 PM
LOL. Those must be short conversations.
progressoverpeace on September 2, 2009 at 8:15 PM
Hey AP,
Where’d you get the old picture of Nancy Pelosi?
patch on September 2, 2009 at 8:16 PM
ATTN GOP Caucus, there’s a spy amongst you.
CP on September 2, 2009 at 8:16 PM
Oh well, there’s always emmigration.
Libs, you can have America. You deserve what she will become.
Aquateen Hungerforce on September 2, 2009 at 8:16 PM
The NRSC needs to quit giving money to people working for the other side.
CP on September 2, 2009 at 8:18 PM
It, uh, means, uh, ‘man juice’. I wonder if Snowe on the mountains has been spunky lately.
HornetSting on September 2, 2009 at 8:19 PM
Nope. Every other country has strict ‘immigration’ laws….except us.
HornetSting on September 2, 2009 at 8:19 PM
memo to donks…
“One Snowe does not a blizzard of bi-partisanship make.”
sven10077 on September 2, 2009 at 8:20 PM
OK, lets get serious. Did anyone here think that Collins and Snowe would not be voting for Obama’s bills—whatever they are. Along with Specter they were the deciding votes in the Senate on all prior bills.
I don’t care how poor the final bill is, they will be voting yes if their votes secure passage.
They should have been thrown out of the party last year. Remember it was last year that the entire House and Senate voted against the bailouts, twice, yet they alone caused the bills to be passed. They will do it again on Cap and Trade when the time comes.
patrick neid on September 2, 2009 at 8:21 PM
Question, does “the party” have to accept those within their ranks, or can they be kicked out of the caucus? I seem to remember threats that Lieberman wouldn’t be allowed to caucus with Dems in light of his support for the surge in Iraq.
Obviously, it is not like we’d be losing a vote anyhow, so why maintain the fiction allow the Dem’s the bi-partisan symbolism. Steele needs to lower the hammer and boot this biatche!
Archimedes on September 2, 2009 at 8:21 PM
Luckily, I’m a highly desirable immigrant as I work, pay taxes, and don’t suck off the govt. teat. Any country would love to have me. And, yes, I would move to another socialistic country, but I wouldn’t be as disgusted because it wasn’t my country. Peace of mind, baby.
Aquateen Hungerforce on September 2, 2009 at 8:22 PM
The problem is what can you do to her? If you push Snowe too far and take her chairmanships, then she goes over like Spectre and could possibly become MORE liberal.
Trent1289 on September 2, 2009 at 8:23 PM
Send Snowe to GITMO!!!!
mobydutch on September 2, 2009 at 8:23 PM
I have this pain in my knee from time to time which makes it hard to travel, so I guess I will have to stay and fight it out.
Bishop on September 2, 2009 at 8:23 PM
The Obamanable Snowe-job!
Archimedes on September 2, 2009 at 8:24 PM
This changes nothing…bait and switch will not work this time…the American people are now engaged and paying close attention.
d1carter on September 2, 2009 at 8:24 PM
Don’t let them run you off….this is our country! We are going to take it back.
HornetSting on September 2, 2009 at 8:24 PM
Missed it by one letter.
highhopes on September 2, 2009 at 8:24 PM
Well, frickity dooda… When is the “Competitive” Post Office going to be held to these standards?
Upstater85 on September 2, 2009 at 8:25 PM
The Senate is already in the hands of the filthy liar’s party. This whore never votes with the GOP on the issues that matters. Who cares if she becomes more liberal because the whore isn’t doing anything for the GOP. Let her jump like Jeffords and Specter. She’ll quickly find that just another liberal from New England doesn’t nearly get her the attention she gets as a “Republican” who hates the GOP.
highhopes on September 2, 2009 at 8:27 PM
God I hate that worthless whore.
KSgop on September 2, 2009 at 8:28 PM
That would be fine except that American conservatives have nowhere to go. The US was the only individualistic nation on Earth. When the US goes, American conservatives will be a people without a land. The whole world, save the US, is different levels of collectivism. The US was unique. When that’s gone, it’s done.
progressoverpeace on September 2, 2009 at 8:28 PM
OMG! They don’t get it do they?
Their stated goal is government takeover of the healthcare industry and people are furious. Do they not have anything better to do than try new shades of lipstick on the pig?
We have nothing but idiots playing marxists in Washington and it is not even Halloween yet.
ORconservative on September 2, 2009 at 8:29 PM
Remember the Senior Citizen’s Bill of RIghts. WE’re all about pragmatism now. There may come a day when it’s time to exorcise the Maine sisters, but not when it gives their 60th vote, when fate conspired to bring them back to 59.
Trent1289 on September 2, 2009 at 8:30 PM
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