On to a happier note, I’m so heartened as an Illinoisan to see such educated citizens! Both made sense, but I esp. liked hearing the second man speak. I loved that he had an answer for that sneering, ignorant host.

-Aslan’s Girl

Bleeds Blue on September 2, 2009 at 1:56 PM

Bleeds Blue is Exhibit “A” in the case for not sending your child, or any child, to a government school.

Does ANYONE believe that?  I have heard that the Public Option is over until 2013.  Damn.   I didn’t think Obama was going to make until the end of ……

Well said Bleeds Blue. This is exactly what we all need: more government in our lives. Personally, I’m sick of having to rely upon myself for my own well being and, like you, long for the federal government to take control of my selfish, self-centered life.

Rod on September 2, 2009 at 2:18 PM

I’m personally thinking of becoming a Democrat. The fact that I need not work appeals to me now, along with getting my lifestyle paid for by working dopes.Then there’s the not having to think that is a really nice benefit.

Go LANDOFDAFREE and HOMEOFDABRAVE!

He will know what I mean.

YOU are so welcome.

HOTAIR IS THE BOMB!

Nocensorhipyouknowwho.

Conservaboomer on September 2, 2009 at 3:45 PM

LOL…. sounds like one of those Radio broadcasts they used to do to the Undergrounds in WWII.

“The Horse, is in, the pen… I repeat, the Horse, is in, the Pen…”

Another blight on America from Illinois. I’d ask you to feel sorry for us in Illinois, but our mistakes are now the Country’s. I guess we owe the Country an apology for these crooks: Durbin, Burris, Foster, Kirk, the Emanuel boys, Axelrod, etc… and, of course, Obama. The list does not appear to end. I didn’t vote for any of them, but I am from Illinois and… I’m sorry.

Hobbes on September 2, 2009 at 4:23 PM

+2 (me and husband)

Durbin: Mandate? What mandates?
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In Virginia they built several roads and bridges with tolls and when they were paid for, they removed the tolls. It was like a miracle or something.

Cindy Munford on September 2, 2009 at 2:52 PM

Be patient, that will change.

He will know what I mean.

YOU are so welcome.

HOTAIR IS THE BOMB!

Nocensorhipyouknowwho.

Ya, Right.

And the government needs to take away as many things as it can that are causing the sky-rocketing health care costs. Lets start with torte reform. Lets look at government regulations, keep the ones needed and streamline them as much as possible, then TOSS all the other red tape garbage that’s weighing heavy on the health care system.

I absolutely don’t want government health care, but if something isn’t done about the sky-rocketing costs of health care, then were all going to get saddled with sucky government health care. Wise up doctors, take one less fancy vacation, make your fees as low as you can and still have a decent lifestyle, but quite trying to pay for half of your new house with one day’s work. Yes, yes, yes….we all know how much your education costs, and how long it too. Teachers spend at least 5 years in school, and then are required to do continuing education, they don’t come close to your fees, should you really make 5 or 6 times more for only twice the time in school?

Look at countries like India, where they have TONS of doctors, and not so many lawyers. Because the health care profession there isn’t treated like a guarantee of living like royalty, they can’t get away like charging so much. Wise up doctors, hospitals, drug companies, don’t price yourselves into the hands of big government. It’s really not in any of our interests.

Don’t put me in poopsblue’s corner, but isn’t the problem that these invincibles don’t, in fact, self-insure? They have a catastrophic accident in which they’re at fault and can’t resort to the tort system, so the public ends up picking up their tab.

BuckeyeSam on September 2, 2009 at 2:46 PM

Do you know how much this actually costs, though? I mean, if 99% of the people who don’t have insurance because they consider themselves “invincible” don’t incur medical costs that they can’t pay, either out of pocket or over time, then how much of the bill is there to actually pick up?

I see this argument thrown around, but what are the numbers? I’m not saying you know, but my hunch is that they aren’t that large because these people really are generally healthy, otherwise they’d be willing to buy insurance.

hawksruleva on September 2, 2009 at 3:08 PM

It’s dangerous to give libs even the benefit of the hypothetical for the sake of argument, but you put it well within that context, hawks.

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Specifically, in regards to health insurance, there is a group who choose not to because they are young and infallible, and/or would rather spend their money on other things.

ICBM on September 2, 2009 at 2:59 PM

I agree with everything you say in your post, but highlighted what I want to focus on. People of means invariably insure themselves. So, I think, the category is largely populated by young people or people of modest means who decide to “wing it.” For example, I think of my nephew who graduated from college in May, declined to get a catastrohic bridge policy, but luckily landed a decent job.

Again, mandates for these people may not be the answer, but I’d love for those clowns making these policy decisions to determine how much our paying for their infrequent (catastrophic or otherwise) care weighs us down.