Comedy gold: Lefty stunned into silence by her own hypocrisy on hate speech

posted at 7:01 pm on September 2, 2009 by Allahpundit

Via Moe Lane, enjoy as Michelle Goldberg crashes head-on into a logical roadblock set for her by Megan McArdle. Nothing unusual in a progressive lecturing conservatives about incendiary rhetoric while remaining blissfully oblivious to the “Bush = Hitler” droppings that littered our political landscape for eight years. What’s unusual is getting to watch her cope, in real time, with the choice between (a) admitting that the left’s climate of hate was poisonous and potentially dangerous to Bush and (b) accepting that violent nutjobs are responsible for their own actions. Tough call for a liberal — either she forfeits her side’s alleged monopoly on virtue or she embraces *shudder* personal responsibility. It takes a while, but she finally settles on an answer. Good to know that the left is still virtuous.

Update: Another Michelle Goldberg golden moment, from this very same episode of Bloggingheads: “I certainly wouldn’t be shedding many tears if Dick Cheney dropped dead.”

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Checkmate!

WhatsRight on September 2, 2009 at 7:04 PM

Who are these people, and why do I care?

Enoxo on September 2, 2009 at 7:04 PM

Allah-responsibility

TXMomof3 on September 2, 2009 at 7:05 PM

Saw this earlier! It’s perfect…and yes, like Moe, I forgive Megan’s Obama vote because this is sooooooooooo sweet!

AUINSC on September 2, 2009 at 7:05 PM

I think we’ve all had this conversation with lefties in our lives. But unfortunately I’ve never thought to catch it on camera. GOLD! This is an instant classic.

D0WNT0WN on September 2, 2009 at 7:05 PM

Thinking is hard.

myrenovations on September 2, 2009 at 7:06 PM

The somebody who said Obama was an illigitimate tyrant got it right. He is illigitimate and he is a tyrant.

fourdeucer on September 2, 2009 at 7:07 PM

Eeww. Mcardle’s mouth is Joker-like. The other woman looks like a hooker.

promachus on September 2, 2009 at 7:07 PM

Shazam!

way to go Megan!

the picture says a thousand words :-)

cmsinaz on September 2, 2009 at 7:08 PM

i see this dissonance resolved easily by every progressive i’ve spoken with. it goes something like this:

yea, but…bush really WAS hitler.

for another good example of this, go back to the bloggingheads of jonah goldberg v. rosa er…whatsername

eh on September 2, 2009 at 7:08 PM

‘Feelers’ asked to think…mh

Schadenfreude on September 2, 2009 at 7:09 PM

ERrrrrr? Duhhhhh?

John the Libertarian on September 2, 2009 at 7:10 PM

ERrrrrr? Duhhhhh?

John the Libertarian on September 2, 2009 at 7:10 PM

It’s nightmare. It’s a mutation. The Dalek race was genetically engineered. Every single emotion was removed except hate.
― The Doctor

MB4 on September 2, 2009 at 7:12 PM

“But that’s not what Ward Churchill taught me…!”

Seven Percent Solution on September 2, 2009 at 7:13 PM

I’ve never heard of her, but Goldberg is surprisingly hot for a lib.

TampaBayBull on September 2, 2009 at 7:13 PM

Is it wrong that I find the lefty in that video far more attarctive?

Scrappy on September 2, 2009 at 7:13 PM

Michelle Goldberg looks and acts like every young, stupid college liberal who will never mature and outgrow the fantasy world they live in.

Mark1971 on September 2, 2009 at 7:14 PM

TampaBayBull on September 2, 2009 at 7:13 PM

or what he said.

Scrappy on September 2, 2009 at 7:14 PM

She just dove into a mosh pit full of dumb.

whitetop on September 2, 2009 at 7:14 PM

Thinking is hard.

myrenovations on September 2, 2009 at 7:06 PM

LOL

deedtrader on September 2, 2009 at 7:15 PM

Michelle Goldberg is an absolute ditz.

terryannonline on September 2, 2009 at 7:15 PM

They are dumb, aren’t they?

Y-not on September 2, 2009 at 7:15 PM

Pwnage! That was great.

darii on September 2, 2009 at 7:18 PM

Olbermann would reply, “But Bush was a fascist terrorist and stating so isn’t hate speech.”

You betcha’ he would.

SteveMG on September 2, 2009 at 7:19 PM

Is it wrong that I find the lefty in that video far more attarctive?

Scrappy on September 2, 2009 at 7:13 PM

What about the showgirl in the Bally’s ad?

whitetop on September 2, 2009 at 7:20 PM

This reminds me of watching Obama speak,and Goldberg,like Hopey always seem to get stuck,either trying to pull up facts in their brains or searching for a particular phrase!

Then,watching the facial kubuki dance as the Liberal starts
burning up circuits in their brains in search of the proper
talk’n points,or the realization they have been verbally out
-gunned!!haha

canopfor on September 2, 2009 at 7:20 PM

Oof. A hottie sandwich.

MadisonConservative on September 2, 2009 at 7:20 PM

Thinking is hard.

myrenovations on September 2, 2009 at 7:06 PM

LOL

deedtrader on September 2, 2009 at 7:15 PM

HA! That reminded me of Ralph from the Simpsons. I could see Goldberg getting caught eating her glue stick.

TampaBayBull on September 2, 2009 at 7:20 PM

Via Instapundit, I watched the long discussion between Michelle Goldberg and Megan McArdle over the Tea Party rallies.

Goldberg is attacking what she sees as right-wing rhetoric that “contribute[s] to a climate of incitement.”

What struck me was how, in the course of the debate, Goldberg casually expresses her deep hatred for Bush and Cheney. At 64:20, she mentions in passing, “God, I hated Bush so much.” And at 39:10 Goldberg refers to the “blessed day” when Dick Cheney dies and says, “I certainly wouldn’t be shedding many tears if Dick Cheney dropped dead.”

http://volokh.com/posts/1251879017.shtml

Jim Treacher on September 2, 2009 at 7:21 PM

If the conversation continued in any way like back-and-forth with lib trolls on boards like these goes, then Goldberg’s next statement would’ve been some personal slam on McArdle. Like clockwork.

ddrintn on September 2, 2009 at 7:21 PM

“But that’s not what Ward Churchill taught me…!”

Seven Percent Solution on September 2, 2009 at 7:13 PM

Wow, now there’s a sorry son-of-a-bitch if I ever saw one.

How anyone could stand up for that prick is Waaaay beyond me…

Oh, we have Liberals….

What was I thinking??

BigWyo on September 2, 2009 at 7:21 PM

“Yeah but….but…but…ok let’s talk about Halliburton now.”

Bishop on September 2, 2009 at 7:21 PM

Michelle Goldberg looks and acts like every young, stupid college liberal who will never mature and outgrow the fantasy world they live in.

Mark1971 on September 2, 2009 at 7:14 PM

Oh how I wish I could meet just one liberal that was as honest as Goldberg was at the end of that video. If she can say that very hard ‘no’ while this young and dumb – isn’t that redundant? – then I’ll hold out hope for her.

shibumiglass on September 2, 2009 at 7:22 PM

Yet another really hot, really smart conservative woman! Where most of the lefties are dumb as a box of rocks, and smelly hippy lookin’ to boot.

bikermailman on September 2, 2009 at 7:22 PM

MB4 on September 2, 2009 at 7:12 PM

Evil? No. No, I will not except that. They are conditioned simply to survive. They can survive only by becoming the dominate species. When all other life forms are surpressed, when the Daleks are the supreme rulers of the universe, then…you will have peace. Wars will end. They are the power not of evil, but of good.

-Davros

MadisonConservative on September 2, 2009 at 7:22 PM

Is it wrong that I find the lefty in that video far more attarctive?

Scrappy on September 2, 2009 at 7:13 PM

Scrappy: Are you a Moderate!? That might be why!!

And,I’m kidding!!haha:)

canopfor on September 2, 2009 at 7:22 PM

If you didn’t think Michelle Goldberg could sound any dumber you should listen to her putting “reproduction rights” on the same level as human rights. Yuck.

Or watch to Ann Altouse totally make her look like the total hack she is.

Logic is not Michelle’s strength.

terryannonline on September 2, 2009 at 7:23 PM

The usual left-wing tactic in these situations is to talk over the other person and bury them in an avalanche of all the evil things that Bush did or was, and act as if the other person is crazy for not hating Bush. Goldberg needs to re-read her Alinsky.

RedRedRice on September 2, 2009 at 7:23 PM

Then,watching the facial kubuki dance as the Liberal starts
burning up circuits in their brains in search of the proper
talk’n points,or the realization they have been verbally out
-gunned!!haha

canopfor on September 2, 2009 at 7:20 PM

That’s when the name-calling starts: references to rednecks, idiocy, retardation, inbred, community colleges, whatever comes handy.

ddrintn on September 2, 2009 at 7:23 PM

This liberals reaction was like watching members of the McCain Campaign team answer questions on media shows during the ’08 campaign.

Uh….(uncomfortable silence)…..er….. we did do that.

portlandon on September 2, 2009 at 7:23 PM

The somebody who said Obama was an illigitimate tyrant got it right. He is illigitimate and he is a tyrant.

fourdeucer on September 2, 2009 at 7:07 PM

I say he is a legitimate tyrant. Through and through, no doubt about it.

BobMbx on September 2, 2009 at 7:24 PM

I can hear the wind through the ears. Sounds like the ocean.

TheUnrepentantGeek on September 2, 2009 at 7:24 PM

Oof. A hottie sandwich.

MadisonConservative on September 2, 2009 at 7:20 PM

Teddy is barely in the ground and you are trying to take over his hobby.

faraway on September 2, 2009 at 7:24 PM

……………glorious

ThePrez on September 2, 2009 at 7:24 PM

Political Debate Fail.

EMR on September 2, 2009 at 7:25 PM

Evil? No. No, I will not except that. They are conditioned simply to survive. They can survive only by becoming the dominate species. When all other life forms are surpressed, when the Daleks are the supreme rulers of the universe, then…you will have peace. Wars will end. They are the power not of evil, but of good.

-Davros

MadisonConservative on September 2, 2009 at 7:22 PM

Sounds kinda like islam, huh?

bikermailman on September 2, 2009 at 7:25 PM

Interesting. It almost makes the last eight years and the nutjobs at these protests worthwhile.

Esthier on September 2, 2009 at 7:26 PM

Fifteen year olds just don’t think through these things…

d1carter on September 2, 2009 at 7:26 PM

This is what happens when emotion, and not principle, is your guide.

Those big doe eyes of Michelle’s don’t let a great deal of light in. Bummer.

beatcanvas on September 2, 2009 at 7:27 PM

Checkmate, is right. LOL.

Ryan Gandy on September 2, 2009 at 7:27 PM

I say he is a legitimate tyrant. Through and through, no doubt about it.

BobMbx on September 2, 2009 at 7:24 PM
I grant you that 100%.

fourdeucer on September 2, 2009 at 7:27 PM

Sounds kinda like islam, huh?

bikermailman on September 2, 2009 at 7:25 PM

Allahu akbar.

Exterminate.

Hmmm…

Teddy is barely in the ground and you are trying to take over his hobby.

faraway on September 2, 2009 at 7:24 PM

Are you kidding? I can’t swim worth a damn.

MadisonConservative on September 2, 2009 at 7:27 PM

Oh how I wish I could meet just one liberal that was as honest as Goldberg was at the end of that video. If she can say that very hard ‘no’ while this young and dumb – isn’t that redundant? – then I’ll hold out hope for her.

shibumiglass on September 2, 2009 at 7:22 PM

I don’t think she was being honest. Liberals and honesty are not very good friends. I think she was sitting in a dark room all by herself and wasn’t aware of what she was doing. Sure, she knew of the setup…recorded video debate..whatever…

Kinda like driving and talking on a cell phone….

BigWyo on September 2, 2009 at 7:29 PM

With no deference whatsoever to Chris Mathews, I always get a tingle when I witness the socratic method used to gig a lefty. Pesky stuff, that logic!

semperfree on September 2, 2009 at 7:30 PM

Who the hell is Michelle Goldberg?

Ronnie on September 2, 2009 at 7:30 PM

Michelle Goldberg is an embarrasment to women.

terryannonline on September 2, 2009 at 7:31 PM

Just another brainwashed lemming repeating talking points they cannot understand the hypocrisy of. The commited hate of the left is so obvious they cannot realize their obsession of being intolerant of others’ opinions which is exactly the definition of a bigot. Hypocrisy rules!

volsense on September 2, 2009 at 7:31 PM

“I certainly wouldn’t be shedding many tears if Dick Cheney dropped dead.”

http://volokh.com/posts/1251879017.shtml

Jim Treacher on September 2, 2009 at 7:21 PM

Jim Treacher: The Compassionate and Caring hypocritical
Left strike again!:)

canopfor on September 2, 2009 at 7:31 PM

I say he is a legitimate tyrant. Through and through, no doubt about it.

Yeah, his healthcare program is doing just fine.

Every other week he’s tossing parts of it under the bus.

Some tyrant.

SteveMG on September 2, 2009 at 7:31 PM

Logic is not Michelle’s strength.

terryannonline on September 2, 2009 at 7:23 PM

*snicker*

You don’t say….

BigWyo on September 2, 2009 at 7:32 PM

Who the hell is Michelle Goldberg?

Ronnie on September 2, 2009 at 7:30 PM

A lib who wrote a book, that is all.

terryannonline on September 2, 2009 at 7:32 PM

Then,watching the facial kubuki dance as the Liberal starts burning up circuits in their brains in search of the proper talk’n points,or the realization they have been verbally out-gunned!!haha
canopfor on September 2, 2009 at 7:20 PM

It was glorious to watch; the facial contortions, the skyward gaze, the barely-hidden desperation to find something to fire back even though she knew the ammo box was utterly empty.

Had that been a street protest of some kind, Goldberg would have muttered, “Yeah whatever you fascist” and walked away.

Bishop on September 2, 2009 at 7:32 PM

Who the hell is Michelle Goldberg?

Ronnie on September 2, 2009 at 7:30 PM

After watching some more of her, I’ve concluded that she’s eye candy. Nothing more.

MadisonConservative on September 2, 2009 at 7:33 PM

BigWyo on September 2, 2009 at 7:29 PM

You’re probably right. I’m just hoping for some change. pffft

shibumiglass on September 2, 2009 at 7:33 PM

Is it wrong that I find the lefty in that video far more attarctive?

Scrappy on September 2, 2009 at 7:13 PM

They are both pretty attractive, IMO. Crappy lighting plus the webcam doesn’t do anyone favors.

Asher on September 2, 2009 at 7:34 PM

Update: Another Michelle Goldberg golden moment, from this very same episode of Bloggingheads: “I certainly wouldn’t be shedding many tears if Dick Cheney dropped dead.”

Allahpundit,

You didn’t quote the truly grotesque part of that snippet where she refers to Cheney’s death as a “blessed day.”

terryannonline on September 2, 2009 at 7:34 PM

Another Michelle Goldberg golden moment, from this very same episode of Bloggingheads: “I certainly wouldn’t be shedding many tears if Dick Cheney dropped dead.”

And yet I am called partisan or heartless for not caring that Ted Kennedy died or that Dodd has cancer or any number of “sad” things I’m supposed to care about because they are happening to famous Democrats.

myrenovations on September 2, 2009 at 7:35 PM

God Michelle looks like a whore.

Apologetic California on September 2, 2009 at 7:36 PM

An epic PWNING if there ever was one.

WisCon on September 2, 2009 at 7:36 PM

I’m surprised she didn’t just call the question racist and demand a retraction.

The Ugly American on September 2, 2009 at 7:37 PM

An epic PWNING if there ever was one.

WisCon on September 2, 2009 at 7:36 PM

Dude, it nothing really to be proud of. Michelle Goldberg is a freaking lightweight. Sean Hannity could probably stump her and all he does is spew talking points.

terryannonline on September 2, 2009 at 7:38 PM

After watching some more of her, I’ve concluded that she’s eye candy.

MadisonConservative on September 2, 2009 at 7:33 PM

Maybe Halloween candy.

Ronnie on September 2, 2009 at 7:40 PM

I forgive Megan’s Obama vote because this is sooooooooooo sweet!

You’re a bigger person than I. Most of us saw this coming long before the election. Those who are acting surprised that they could be so easily duped makes me wonder about their ability to make any rational decision. Anyone who voted for Zero on the notion that he was actually middle-of-the-road is either ignorant or just didn’t pay attention to record when conservative outlets were trying to bring it into the light.

slug on September 2, 2009 at 7:41 PM

A lib who wrote a book, that is all.

terryannonline on September 2, 2009 at 7:32 PM

Maybe the Smartest President in History gave her an idea, and she had someone smarter than her write her book too!

bikermailman on September 2, 2009 at 7:41 PM

Duh!

Terrye on September 2, 2009 at 7:41 PM

Maybe Halloween candy.

Ronnie on September 2, 2009 at 7:40 PM

Dude. Goth chicks. Mmmmmmmmm.

Although she just described having affairs as “normal human behavior”.

Ughhhhhhhh.

MadisonConservative on September 2, 2009 at 7:42 PM

After watching some more of her, I’ve concluded that she’s eye candy.

MadisonConservative on September 2, 2009 at 7:33 PM

Are the pickins really that thin in Madison? Dude!!

thomasaur on September 2, 2009 at 7:42 PM

SteveMG on September 2, 2009 at 7:31 PM
Just because some of his plans don’t work out the way he wanted doesn’t make him less of a tyrant.

fourdeucer on September 2, 2009 at 7:43 PM

Le Waaannnhhh! I wanna see, me too!

Damn-it! I can’t get the vid to play, and this sounds like so much fun. (stamps foot) I never get to do anything.

Sorry had regress there for a moment, but it sounds priceless and I really do wish I could partake.

Boo-hoo!

Archimedes on September 2, 2009 at 7:43 PM

MadCon, you need to make a lil trip to Texas. Or Georgia. Or anywhere down South. Esp nice, now that college is back in!

bikermailman on September 2, 2009 at 7:43 PM

An epic PWNING if there ever was one.

WisCon on September 2, 2009 at 7:36 PM

Oh please. What’s her next epic battle? Arm wrestling a three-year-old?

Ronnie on September 2, 2009 at 7:44 PM

Who are these people, and why do I care?

Enoxo on September 2, 2009 at 7:04 PM

Kind of agree with this.

And I respect the lady on the left for admitting she was talking rubbish.

I am very tired of leftists equating legal gun ownership, and in this case legal display of guns, with potential violence. It is a facile argument. Everyone working at my local gun shop openly carries loaded weapons. In 20+ years there has never been a shooting. Maybe they got lucky.

Criminals kill people with guns, and they are almost always illegally procured.

Enough of this gun canard. It’s legal in AZ to carry a firearm openly. End of story. If he’d taken a shot at Brock he’d have been taken down quicker than you can say ‘leftist strawman’.

Anders on September 2, 2009 at 7:45 PM

Dude. Goth chicks. Mmmmmmmmm.

Although she just described having affairs as “normal human behavior”.

Ughhhhhhhh.

MadisonConservative on September 2, 2009 at 7:42 PM

Um, yeah, who wouldn’t want a woman whose head looks like a sperm dipped in charcoal? Mmmmmm.

Ronnie on September 2, 2009 at 7:46 PM

I found her wiki. She is 34 years old and she sounds like she has the maturity level of a 18 year old.

terryannonline on September 2, 2009 at 7:46 PM

After watching some more of her, I’ve concluded that she’s eye candy.

MadisonConservative on September 2, 2009 at 7:33 PM

I’m watching some more of her now too, and I’m finding her less attactive. Probably just becuase actually listening to her for very long grates on my nerves. I think she doesn’t apply much logical analysis to anything. All her reactions to things are based on how she feels about them.

Scrappy on September 2, 2009 at 7:49 PM

Ummm, does anybody know the political affiliation of the guy who brought a firearm to a townhall or is that just an assumption?

Speakup on September 2, 2009 at 7:49 PM

What’s with all the talk about people’s looks?
sheesh

Like listening to lefties call Rush Limbaugh Fat.

bridgetown on September 2, 2009 at 7:50 PM

Obnoxious loudmouth eats own foot. Film at eleven.

hillbillyjim on September 2, 2009 at 7:50 PM

Speakup on September 2, 2009 at 7:49 PM

Not sure…but we do know it wasn’t an “angry white dude”.

AUINSC on September 2, 2009 at 7:51 PM

Let us at least give Ms. Goldberg for giving an honest answer and not trying to dissemble.

alesian_siege on September 2, 2009 at 7:52 PM

What’s with all the talk about people’s looks?
sheesh

Like listening to lefties call Rush Limbaugh Fat.

bridgetown on September 2, 2009 at 7:50 PM

I know who Rush Limbaugh is. What else am I supposed to say about this woman?

Ronnie on September 2, 2009 at 7:53 PM

Michelle Goldberg appears more concerned about how she looks in the mirror than with presenting coherent thoughts. I don’t know how McCardle did not roll her eyes or bust out laughing at her.

aikidoka on September 2, 2009 at 7:54 PM

Let us at least give Ms. Goldberg for giving an honest answer and not trying to dissemble.

alesian_siege on September 2, 2009 at 7:52 PM

Actually, she got caught giving a dishonest answer and had no way out. That’s not quite the same thing.

Ronnie on September 2, 2009 at 7:54 PM

What’s unusual is getting to watch her cope, in real time, with the choice

I wasn’t sure I wanted to watch the entire clip, but it was worth it. I love how she’s trying desperately NOT to have to admit that people are responsible for their own actions and slowly realizes she’s backed herself into a corner. Nice.

jtownsley on September 2, 2009 at 7:54 PM

I’m watching some more of her now too, and I’m finding her less attactive. Probably just becuase actually listening to her for very long grates on my nerves. I think she doesn’t apply much logical analysis to anything. All her reactions to things are based on how she feels about them.

Scrappy on September 2, 2009 at 7:49 PM

Her vocabulary is college-level. Her logic, barely out of high school.

Ronnie on September 2, 2009 at 7:46 PM

More goth chicks for me, then.

MadisonConservative on September 2, 2009 at 7:55 PM

Once upon a time, long ago, in a country named Germany, a few people thought that his rhetoric was just that which got him elected and that once in power he would stop using it. However as time came to past those same people realized that their leader was indeed a tyrant and that they couldn’t do anything to stop him short of assassination. Well it only took twelve years for the leader to take his own life after plunging his country into ruin. He was know as Der Fuhrer(the leader) also known by his sir name,Hitler.

He to came to power via election through people who didn’t know what he was about even though he wrote in his book what he had intended to do. Then and now, what’s the difference? Despises Jews, Christians, religion in general with the exception of Islam which was born from a cut throat tyrant. Both are and were totally unreasonable and illogical. Hates all with money but hasn’t any problem cozying up to those that have it if they furthers his goals.
The parallels are infinite.

larvcom on September 2, 2009 at 7:55 PM

“But that’s not what Ward Churchill taught me…!”
Seven Percent Solution on September 2, 2009 at 7:13 PM

Seven Percent Solution: With every Liberal,as soon as they
run out of facts,or are confronted,
their reasoning goes out the window
so to speak,

and it spirals down into a Lefty
scream fest!:)

canopfor on September 2, 2009 at 7:55 PM

I found her wiki. She is 34 years old and she sounds like she has the maturity level of a 18 year old.

terryannonline on September 2, 2009 at 7:46 PM

Damn! I stand corrected. She’s older than I am. There goes the hope….

“You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.”

shibumiglass on September 2, 2009 at 7:55 PM

Just because some of his plans don’t work out the way he wanted doesn’t make him less of a tyrant.

Merriam-Webster:
Main Entry: ty·rant
Pronunciation: \ˈtī-rənt\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English tyraunt, from Anglo-French tyran, tyrant, from Latin tyrannus, from Greek tyrannos
Date: 14th century
1 a : an absolute ruler unrestrained by law or constitution.

Looks to me like the laws are restraining him.

Otherwise that healthcare bill would have gone through already.

SteveMG on September 2, 2009 at 7:56 PM

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