CNN poll: Majority now oppose ObamaCare
posted at 4:06 pm on September 2, 2009 by Allahpundit
48/51, with most of those in opposition “strongly” against it. The crosstabs are full of goodies — e.g., just 21 percent think their family will be better off under ObamaCare, 55 percent think they’ll pay more for treatment versus just 19 percent who say less — but here’s my favorite data point.

He’s been swearing up and down for months that he’s not after a government takeover of health care, and this is what he gets. Likewise, after assuring us ad nauseam that seniors won’t lose any Medicare benefits, the split found by CNN on whether Medicare recipients will likely be better off or worse off under ObamaCare is … 26/43. The guy’s credibility is shot. And yet, as I write this, news is breaking that he’s planning to address a joint session of Congress a week from today, on the dopey theory that one more chorus of “if you like your plan, you can keep your plan” will somehow rally an increasingly skeptical public to his side. We don’t believe you anymore, Barry: Too many out-and-out lies about the numbers, too much doublespeak from prominent Democrats about the public option as a trojan horse for single-payer — just “too much bulls**t” generally, as one attendee at Steny Hoyer’s town hall put it. No wonder the Democrats’ huge lead in party affiliation has collapsed since May.
Two more data points. Bear in mind as you study them that a majority still claims to be in favor of a public option:


This goes back to the point I made last night. So deep is the public’s worry about further government expansion right now that they’re willing to sacrifice measures they might otherwise agree with in principle (like the public option) simply to put the brakes on and preserve the status quo. Karl made the same point in the Greenroom this morning and Sean Trende, crunching the numbers from the Republican wave that followed the HillaryCare debacle, sounds a similar note:
Democrats may counter that some polls show that the actual pieces of Obama’s plan have majority support. This doesn’t matter. What matters is that what the public understands to be in Obama’s plan isn’t popular. Polling from 2005 showed that Bush’s actual plan for social security – allowing younger workers to invest a portion of their Social Security taxes in private retirement accounts – split the public 50-50, while people disapproved of the perceived Bush plan – “privatization” – by a 2:1 margin. Perception is what matters, and right now the public is against what it perceives as being the Obama plan; the late summer push to educate voters seems to have failed.
Nor can Democrats likely count on the public “waking up” to what a great bill they’ve passed by 2010. Key portions of it, such as the “public option,” don’t come into being until well after the election.
Again, this is fundamentally a credibility problem. The public may love love love the public option in isolation, but it views the promise of a modest, deficit-neutral program against the backdrop of government expansion in all directions and mind-boggling debt as far as the eye can see. And since that backdrop’s going to remain for the foreseeable future, I don’t see how Obama avoids this same problem with the rest of his agenda going forward. His prospects are, shall we say, thoroughly wee-wee’d up.









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really? I thought the opposition exceeded 50% a while ago.
UltimateBob on September 2, 2009 at 4:08 PM
CNN is reporting this!?!!!????!
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bridgetown on September 2, 2009 at 4:09 PM
is next weeks speech his throwing of the Imperial guard to break Wellington’s line, or do they have other cards up their sleave.
rob verdi on September 2, 2009 at 4:10 PM
Oh yes it is.
Patrick Ishmael on September 2, 2009 at 4:10 PM
The majority against it, is the majority of those uninformed or misled, right?
Surely CNN is spelling this out.
singlemalt_18 on September 2, 2009 at 4:10 PM
After Obama’s Prime time speech Sept.9th, the CNN numbers will be 78/22.
This is CNN.
portlandon on September 2, 2009 at 4:10 PM
Does CNN show their polling sample?
Del Dolemonte on September 2, 2009 at 4:10 PM
That is why Obamacare will become KennedyCare; because it is easier changing its name than changing its content… watch Obywan try to sell it as such in joint propaganda speech to Congress…
IntheNet on September 2, 2009 at 4:11 PM
Del Dolemonte on September 2, 2009 at 4:10 PM
Man, you beat me to it. I bet they use more Democrats.
kingsjester on September 2, 2009 at 4:11 PM
While Barry indeed has a credibility problem, based on what I am seeing on the ground, it is more of an issue of freedom from government.
Vashta.Nerada on September 2, 2009 at 4:12 PM
He’s just going to make it worse with his grandiose stage play with the joint session of Congress.
Enoxo on September 2, 2009 at 4:12 PM
it is, but its noteworthy because CNN is one of the MSM pollsters that calls way more democrats than repbulicans. (Ie, a poll was released today for the VA gov race showing a D+12 sample size… not that the dem was ahead, but they called 12% MORE demcrats than republicans — in VIRGINIA)
this is also interesting because cnn polled “adults”
finally, remember last time, CNN’s poll heavily oversampled blacks (to which they admitted), having about 25% blacks for a national poll when blacks are about 12%
this is incredible, and it likely means that disapproval is closer to the high 50s/60
battleoflepanto1571 on September 2, 2009 at 4:13 PM
Affirmative Action – 0
American Taxpayers – 1
Hening on September 2, 2009 at 4:13 PM
NO. just lists ‘adults’.
remember, last time they had DOUBLE the AAs
battleoflepanto1571 on September 2, 2009 at 4:13 PM
Boy, ramming porkulus down the country’s throat sure was a great idea, eh Barry! It’s really paying off now, you genius you.
AUINSC on September 2, 2009 at 4:13 PM
51% of Americans are being misled by Republicans today’s poll has discovered…
Orange Doorhinge on September 2, 2009 at 4:14 PM
can’t wait for that ‘Why did People become White” Headline to drop down.
JohnBissell on September 2, 2009 at 4:14 PM
Since CNN has HISTORICALLY oversampled Democrats, I make the REAL NUMBERS to be around 41% to 58% or so… AND DROPPING…
Khun Joe on September 2, 2009 at 4:14 PM
What has this government done to cause the public to trust it? I have an inherit distrust of Chicago thugs, how about you?
d1carter on September 2, 2009 at 4:14 PM
uh erm I uh know I will um uh give them a speech and talk vaguely about uh change and all will be uh well….
Axelrod, summon TotUS!
//Ogabe
sven10077 on September 2, 2009 at 4:17 PM
I’d like to be a fly on the wall when someone in the WH has to tell him that nobody’s buying his schtick anymore and it is best for him to just stop speaking.
HoustonRight on September 2, 2009 at 4:17 PM
Thanks. yeah, after I posted that comment, I realized that I must have been thinking of an earlier, more reliable poll (Rasmussen?) that showed that >50% opposed Obamacare or Kennedycare or whatever they want to call it this week.
UltimateBob on September 2, 2009 at 4:18 PM
Obama says, “maybe you shouldn’t get a pacemaker. Just take some pills and die quietly and quickly.”
lorien1973 on September 2, 2009 at 4:18 PM
Do you know what this failure of a plan calls for?
More presidential exposure!
jjshaka on September 2, 2009 at 4:18 PM
I don’t know where the public love, love, love is coming from. I sure don’t see it- unless HCAN constitutes “the public.”
BKeyser on September 2, 2009 at 4:18 PM
Maybe he should read the bill…?
Seven Percent Solution on September 2, 2009 at 4:18 PM
Yeah I said the same thing….maybe Chairman Soetoro can go down to where his heart truly desires and learn from Hugo for the next three years….
sven10077 on September 2, 2009 at 4:19 PM
Is this BO’s version of a townhall? I hope there is no shouting or anything.
d1carter on September 2, 2009 at 4:19 PM
If he had not allowed his little buddies to put every hobby horse into the Stimulous Bill, causing the cost to spiral and the stimulous to be not existent, he would not be having this problem. I thought he was suppose to be some kind of political genius. Maybe if I saw and heard from him more often he could change my mind but I don’t think so.
Cindy Munford on September 2, 2009 at 4:19 PM
What are they going to do if the polls stay the same(or get worse) after his speech? The two tactics this White House seems to have is to send Obama out on the campaign trail and to demonize its opposition. They’ve tried both during the health care debate, and neither has remotely worked.
Doughboy on September 2, 2009 at 4:19 PM
FU Obama and your liberal politards.
SmallGovtGuy on September 2, 2009 at 4:20 PM
September 9th?
Jukin is smiling.
jukin on September 2, 2009 at 4:20 PM
Before he goes for his training can we take his passport for uh safekeeping?
HoustonRight on September 2, 2009 at 4:21 PM
Kieth Olberman will name CNN the worst person in the world.
FontanaConservative on September 2, 2009 at 4:21 PM
I’m thinking a True Leader would drop this yesterday.
Get to work on the economy (not on acquiring more banks or businesses) and concentrate on the wars being fought. We have men and women ON THE GROUND.
Oh wait…I said, “true leader”….nevermind..
bridgetown on September 2, 2009 at 4:21 PM
You’re clearly not seeing the POTUS’s genius here…when you are sitting at the poker table, with your last few chips, after losing BIG on the last 3 hands…it’s time to double down baby!
AUINSC on September 2, 2009 at 4:22 PM
Then it’s a good thing that the adults are in charge now.
MarkTheGreat on September 2, 2009 at 4:22 PM
Prompterbama LIVE! from Capitol Hill.
This will have the lowest rating yet.
He loves to hear himself talk.
How many Prime Time attempts does this make?
The Obama Administration is acting stupidly!
You know the networks, except for NBC, are excited about this one. What a miserable failure!
The best thing they can do now is start all over again.
Tuesday he talks to kids in school, Wednesday he talks to the cry babies inside the beltway! He would do better just to keep his trap shut!
Atlanta Media Guy on September 2, 2009 at 4:22 PM
I’d like to be a fly on the wall when someone in the WH has to tell him that nobody’s buying his schtick anymore and it is best for him to just stop speaking.
HoustonRight on September 2, 2009 at 4:17 PM
I would like to contact the swine flu and cough all over him but that won’t happen either.
fourdeucer on September 2, 2009 at 4:23 PM
If it were just up to me I’d prefer he just throw up his arms and quit :)
HoustonRight on September 2, 2009 at 4:23 PM
The man believes his own messianic bullshit.
bloviator on September 2, 2009 at 4:24 PM
I wonder if he is going to come out with some amazing announcement to try to take the edge off of 9/12?
Cindy Munford on September 2, 2009 at 4:24 PM
CNN poll >> obvious left-wingnut padding done to make it a bit closer.
Prolly approaching 60% want Ogabe to FAIL on this.
Ogabe on September 2, 2009 at 4:25 PM
Only an egomaniac could think it will help at this point.
DrStock on September 2, 2009 at 4:25 PM
The poll could clear that one up easily:
“Obama will or will not lie through his teeth and blatantly contradict himself in order to get anything he wants.”
A. Will
B. Will Not
Daggett on September 2, 2009 at 4:27 PM
The ONE has Nooooooo credibility whatsoever.
mobydutch on September 2, 2009 at 4:27 PM
Would be awesome if it turned into a South Korean Parliament brawl.
Enoxo on September 2, 2009 at 4:28 PM
This poll, along with others posted between now and Sept.9th, will all show ObamaCare slipping below 50%.
Than after Obama gives the “best speech of our times” they can float the numbers up 5-6 points to give Obama credit for his fortitude and to show how much pull the mere voice of Barry can change the debate.
portlandon on September 2, 2009 at 4:28 PM
Obama advisors are not going to tell the King that his act no longer works. What they will tell him is he is doing a great job and should keep speaking. So..Obama will make a speech to school kids, then Congress, and then hold weekly press conferences until both Health reform and Cap-n-tax are passed by congress…….unless mobs of angry voters show up with tar and feathers.
Skandia Recluse on September 2, 2009 at 4:30 PM
i foresee that next week will be the roughest for the white house yet, after the backlash from the indoctrination speech to the obamayouth on the 8th, he’s going to address the congress, one can only pray that he will get some boos from our gop congressmen. prediction: next friday obama will be at 41/48% approval on rassmussen/gallup.
weewilly on September 2, 2009 at 4:30 PM
Can this be nominated for the AP Awesomely Snarky Line of the Year award?
crazy_legs on September 2, 2009 at 4:31 PM
I’m not so sure. I think many will tune in out of morbid curiosity, especially if he comments on the public option vs co-ops. Counting lies has become a national hobby.
a capella on September 2, 2009 at 4:31 PM
Naming a bill after a wasted drunken sot,how can that improve the perception? Sorta as if it’s fun to fly in the Hindenberg or float your cares away on the Titanic. Might as well call it The Chappaquiddick plan Slow death by government hacks. These guys would flunk marketing 101.
Col.John Wm. Reed on September 2, 2009 at 4:31 PM
So sad that 51% of Americans are fringy astroturfing nazi’s.
stldave on September 2, 2009 at 4:31 PM
Que ABBA in 5-4-3-2-1….
PappaMac on September 2, 2009 at 4:32 PM
See Obama’s star sink down in the sky
Every dream he spins is a lie
Here’s the one bitter lesson of Obama’s history
His soul should no longer remain a mystery
His many faces change
What you thought you knew grows ever more strange
And he has so many faces
His real self erases
With all those lies dancing in his empty eyes!
PercyB on September 2, 2009 at 4:32 PM
It’s ok, they’ll eventually have to scrap the entire thing…and then they will slip the provisions in one by one into such things as funding for the troops in Iraq and Afghanistan. Single payer is the goal and it will come….if we don’t read every single thing that comes out of Washington from now until next November.
Stay vigilant.
“it’s not time to get giddy yet”
Youngs98 on September 2, 2009 at 4:33 PM
BO : Dear Congress, show of hands on who wants health reform
House Reader: BILL is PASSED!
BO : Thank you and God Bless America
End of session.
tatersalad on September 2, 2009 at 4:35 PM
Well then it’s a good thing Obama is keeping tabs on us /sarc
gwelf on September 2, 2009 at 4:36 PM
That’s a great explanation of why blue dog democrats oppose ObamaCare. I”m sure it has nothing to do with the fact we can’t afford it and that we’re running towards a system Canada is running away from.
gwelf on September 2, 2009 at 4:38 PM
Am I mis-reading those results or am I missing some AP sarcasm?
Cause when I read those…I see that the claim of majority support a public option as being unfounded…
Rogue on September 2, 2009 at 4:39 PM
Yeah! Obama is full of good, sound advice! Those stinking, lying Republicans are full of sh*t! He’ll run health care as well as the post office, he said so himself!
Oh, wait… >_<; *royally screwed*
Orange Doorhinge on September 2, 2009 at 4:42 PM
HEH!!!
BigWyo on September 2, 2009 at 4:42 PM
There is nothing you do from one day to the next that this guy doesn’t want to control.
Jim Treacher on September 2, 2009 at 4:43 PM
his folks are still singing a little Journey
“Don’t stop believing”
cmsinaz on September 2, 2009 at 4:43 PM
You say that like anyone in the WhiteHouse actually cares.
Physics Geek on September 2, 2009 at 4:44 PM
Zero experience, no history of ever having a real job, never heard of him ever solving or fixing a real problem, I dont believe he has ever created a winner without creating several bigger losers. Wow! I sure cant wait to hear another speech. This time will he be an expert on medicine, insurance practices, racial relationships, automobiles, global warming, islam, education, who knows! Maybe all of them! At least the kiddies will all get their manditory teachable moment soon too.
No more speeches – just fix something… anything! No really, just fix something. Still waiting… prove it you a**clown.
I feel better – back to work. Thanks everyone.
Jussi on September 2, 2009 at 4:45 PM
When Obama’s polls dive after the speech, Bob Herbert of the New York Times will blame it on Joe Biden and Harry Reid, who’ll be sitting behind Obama during the speech and who’ll be looking like phallic symbols.
BuckeyeSam on September 2, 2009 at 4:46 PM
This is simple math:
For reasons large and small, good and bad, voters no longer have much innate trust in Congress or the Presidency.
Obama has no record of achievement prior to his election that would give voters 1 single reason to trust him…i.e he doesnt have a 20 year history in the private and public sectors of successfully promising AND delivering good things to anyone except the hard-left Chicago mafia and assorted crazy bigoted nutjobs like Wright, Ayers, Jones, Holder, Rahmbo, etc
Obama overpromised before the election and underdelivered once he DID ascend to the WH, so voters are now rightly and triply skeptical about both his abilities and his true motivations.
I dont see how he ever earns a baseline of trust among the American people because he was an empty-suited non-entity before and remains so today, but now he has gubmental responsibilities and his hands on the nuke/biowar button.
Not holding my breath for a Phill Collins video parody of Obama’s nuke trigger-happiness either, though.
Mike D. on September 2, 2009 at 4:47 PM
How many times will the (D)s stand up and applaud during his little spiel on the 9th
cmsinaz on September 2, 2009 at 4:47 PM
KennedyCare, do it for Mary Jo
Jeff from WI on September 2, 2009 at 4:48 PM
FIFY
cmsinaz on September 2, 2009 at 4:48 PM
CNN, the last hyena over the fallen tree. Don’t bump your you know what.
tarpon on September 2, 2009 at 4:49 PM
Make it into a drinking game, or you’ll go nuts.
Orange Doorhinge on September 2, 2009 at 4:49 PM
“Banking Queen?”
Jeff from WI on September 2, 2009 at 4:50 PM
no doubt…
cmsinaz on September 2, 2009 at 4:52 PM
Considering that Obama said for years that he DOES want the government to take over health care, you’d have to be an idiot to think he does not.
Yet we’re supposed to now swallow the lie that he doesn’t.
Alana on September 2, 2009 at 4:53 PM
It looks good to see that the majority now oppose Obama; But, I’m not so sure it matters that much; With the czars appointed outside Congressional approval, and these czars operating behind closed doors without Congressional oversight, Obama and his other soldiers are constructing “legislation” that has oblique language and sounds good to Congressional ears, so they will pass these monstrosities without any purview. It’s already been amply demonstrated that this bunch of thieves are trying to push through “legislation” that has not been given any review by “lawmakers”, with the effect of increasing costs and taxing more on goods and services, to put more money in the hands of these Democrats.
Lenin would be proud.
Cybergeezer on September 2, 2009 at 4:54 PM
Oh, by the way; I’m taking my grand kids out of school on September 8th.
I’ll be damned if this communist is going to try to indoctrinate them on my dime.
Cybergeezer on September 2, 2009 at 4:57 PM
Democrats think we’re so stupid they can lie to us again and again and that we’ll still believe them.
That anyone believes these people is dismaying, but it’s heartening to see that increasingly, people are waking up.
NoDonkey on September 2, 2009 at 4:57 PM
No, they are delusional. They think Obama is another Great Communicator and he can use a speech to “go over the heads” of the media directly to the people, who they think are still clamoring for socialized medicine. One would think these polls would be a big fat dose of reality to them, but I am not counting on it. “That’s my story and I’m sticking to it” seems to be the operating philosophy in this White House.
And, man oh man, if he gets up there in front of the entire Congress and starts attacking Republicans again, he is really going to get some blowback.
rockmom on September 2, 2009 at 4:57 PM
I listened to Laura Ingraham ranting about this today. A caller told her he had just called his local school board in Evansville, Indiana to ask about the Obama address and the staff person said she hadn’t heard and would have to check on it; then she came back to him and said while she was checking she got 14 more calls about it. Every single talk radio show was all over this today, and I expect Glenn Beck to deliver the coup de grace in a few minutes.
rockmom on September 2, 2009 at 5:00 PM
It’s not that we’re stupid, but they think we’re like dogs, like Santa’s Little Helper fer instance…
“Blah blah blah Republicans blah blah blah evil blah blah blah health care reform blah blah blah good.”
Orange Doorhinge on September 2, 2009 at 5:01 PM
it’s a guarantee he will
cmsinaz on September 2, 2009 at 5:01 PM
doesnt’ this violate their agreement with the white house?
Good thing someone’s on (another) vacation!
ted c on September 2, 2009 at 5:04 PM
Wee-wee’d up never gets old. LOL
And yes to your first point. His agenda is all Big Gov. He’s either got to pull a Clinton and move right or it’s fail, fail, fail.
Missy on September 2, 2009 at 5:05 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUJsYLiizvU
Waterloo – with miniskirt catsuits!
Ted Torgerson on September 2, 2009 at 5:07 PM
The “public option” is the same as the “government option”. After Ochimpy and his Marxist pals changed the term to make it more palatable, I’m glad to see that the former term conjures up visions of long waiting lines, denial of service, and death panels, just as the latter term does.
I was going to ask how Ochimpy can sleep at night, but then I remembered that Wright, Ayres, and Rezko, are all his type of people. Soulless parasites that live to destroy this country which gives them the freedom to be the scum that they are.
csdeven on September 2, 2009 at 5:07 PM
Excellent. Everytime B.O. publicly addresses the issue his numbers slip a little bit more.
I say put him on TV 24/7 talking about this thing. That’s the ticket.
JoeinTX on September 2, 2009 at 5:14 PM
I keep having this vision of the kenyan in a padded room, huddled in a corner in the fetal position, sucking his thumb. Anyone else have this [most gratifying] experience?
lukespapa on September 2, 2009 at 5:22 PM
..hate to say it, but those two geezers — with their rugs’n'plugs — will look more like two old peoples’ scrotums.
VoyskaPVO on September 2, 2009 at 5:25 PM
No matter HOW many people are against Obamacare, they’re going to pass it anyway. Is anyone under the illusion that they’re going to do what the majority WANTS? No, we’re the dumb masses – they know what’s best for us so they’ll do whatever the hell they want.
These guys need to be scrapped and we need to start over.
Ms. Right on September 2, 2009 at 5:28 PM
I am not sure that people really agree on what the public option is. In other words, if you ask people if they think that it would be a bad thing if government offered some kind of alternative plan to people who could not afford regular insurance, they might say yes..if you ask them if they themselves wanted to be on that plan and lose what they have..they say no.
Terrye on September 2, 2009 at 5:35 PM
And these polls exhibit “momentum” — whatever trend they show tends to continue. Thus, we can expect that next week’s poll will show a further drop (absent any real news).
Frankly, the momentum effect is more interesting to me than any particular poll. The only explanation I know of is that most folks are lemmings following the crowd.
Golly.
Pythagoras on September 2, 2009 at 5:39 PM
Keep talking Barry, it will get you “shovel ready” faster.
farright on September 2, 2009 at 5:40 PM
rockmom on September 2, 2009 at 4:57 PM
Yea; We definitely need a ground swell against this turd.
Cybergeezer on September 2, 2009 at 5:44 PM
Typo: Should have been communist turd!
Cybergeezer on September 2, 2009 at 5:45 PM
Obama’s a Lame Duck in only 8 months. Is that a presidential record?
Quack. Quack.
TN Mom on September 2, 2009 at 5:50 PM
I’ll give my grand kids a civics lesson on how improbable and impossible it is for Obama, his soldiers, (Czars, Black Panthers, SEIU, other Unions and media), and his Congress to create any great legacy for the United States of America.
Cybergeezer on September 2, 2009 at 5:52 PM
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